March 25th, 2008

Socialists ready for 2010 election without Gyurcsány

The Socialist Party intends to win 2010 parliamentary elections with or without Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsány and the party could begin to prepare for the next elections without him, it was pronounced on Thursday night. The comments were made at an informal party executive meeting in Balatonszemes on the health insurance act, the state of the coalition and the finer points of the March 29 party conference.

Gyurcsány reportedly pledged to involve his fellow politicians in important decisions and “play a team game.” Speaker Katalin Szili, who criticised the government on March 15, made a conciliatory and self-critical contribution.

Magyar Nemzet writes that members of the Socialist executive have granted Gyurcsány a grace period of several months and party members could decide in late 2008 or early next year on who will lead them into European Parliament elections. However, the daily posts that a revolt at the March 29 party conference could disrupt these plans.

The next party executive meeting on Friday will decide on political strategy and the future of the health care reforms.

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15 Comments

  1. aemann says:

    “Hungary Ready for 2010 Election without Socialists”.
    Well, it’s a start. If only the rest of the stinking rabble could be
    persuaded that Hungary would be better off without them we
    might be getting somewhere. I can think of a few places to put
    them once they’re out of work – how about prison, for crimes
    against the country and it’s people? At their own expense of
    course. Prosecution, prison, seizure of their assets. Now we’re
    talking.

  2. Rolrox says:

    “Team game?” At this point, the team is the entire nation; it’s no longer GY Jello and Mess & Pee. Isn’t it time to reach across the aisle? Rather than continuing the same old, “every man for himself” politics. Face it nobody outside the country is going to jump in and sort out the mess – and the longer the bickering, name calling, finger pointing policy making continues the poorer the country will be – save for those that either escape or have lucrative Russian Gazprom consulting gigs.

  3. Viking says:

    Are the people who voted away 300 Ft to visit the Doctor willing to introduce the needed reforms to bring back the country on the right track?
    Or is Viktor Orban correct that it will be oceans of money when he comes back, so we do not need to do anything?
    I just wonder why we need to wait to 2010 to find out?

  4. aemann says:

    So far, there have been no reforms, in the same was as there was
    no ‘system change’ and no ’56 Revolution. The measures are merely
    to try and raise cash, as much as possible, from wherever possible,
    though it is, as usual, the ordinary people who have to shoulder
    the burden. This is government by spreadsheet – unfortunately the
    people with the spreadsheets are ignorant, arrogant, greedy,
    vicious, and stupid.

  5. Viking says:

    Hardly “ignorant” and “stupid”. If they were they would not be at power and have spreadsheets…
    I thought it was your opinion that the rest of the population is “ignorant” and “stupid”.

  6. aemann says:

    What a touchingly naive point of view – using a spreadsheet makes
    you clever and wise, and being in power means you’ve achieved
    that position on merit! Ouch! That’s so dumb it hurts! If that’s what
    passes for reasoned, logical argument, no wonder this country is in
    such a mess.

  7. Viking says:

    Well, the “merit” of being in power in an Parliamentarian Democracy is that you get people to vote for you. That are the only merits counting.
    How many people in the US elect the US President – 20-25% of the population? I know you do not like Democracy, but what would you suggest instead then?

  8. Rolrox says:

    “A” – I like the spreadsheet line – neatly sums up part of the problem.

    V (it appears your off track (again) so here’s a little bit of help) it’s nothing to do with how people get to be leaders, or that they know Excel – it has to do with the big picture which now can only be solved through everybody holding a stake; the “autocratic” approach favoured by G Y Jell is wedded to backlashes like this recent referendum; people voted it down as there’s no other outlet for dissent.

  9. Rolrox says:

    BTW, Fidesz, Orban, etc. are probably not the going to solve this either as they are seem to polarize.

    The issue isn’t the election process per se, it’s the knowledge of those elected to form policies that foster growth & create a fair trading environment which naturally creates more taxable revenues from an increase in trade.

  10. Viking says:

    “to form policies that foster growth & create a fair trading environment which naturally creates more taxable revenues from an increase in trade”.
    Very nice, but why is no politician in Hungary coming up with those policies then?
    What has Hungary to trade? In the old Comecon-days at least Hungary had tomatoes, but now? With a population that wants Kadar back?

  11. Odin's Lost eye says:

    Is this just wishfull thinking on the part of the press or a good little ‘Head Line’ maker without any real substance? As Harold Wilson (whom I did not like) said ‘A week is a long time in politics’
    Do not believe all you read and only half of what you see in pictures (or on film). I am sceptical that thism is the truth.

  12. Rolrox says:

    There’re loads of things that could be done:-
    - even playing field – even for the politicos who should face penalties the same as the rest of us
    - reduce the tax bite; make it even across the whole of society rather than hurting mainly the weakest of society (and driving away jobs and talent)
    - reduce the gov’t overhead; consolidate the 1000s of town councils
    - implement a transparent budget and expenditure (ala OMB in the US); and investigate and prosecute where necessary

  13. Rolrox says:

    (cont’d)

    As to trade, HU offers:-
    - skills in pharma (stop the special taxes here that will drive them away)
    - assembly plants
    - logistics – the country has a lead over other routes to points East, capitalise on such.
    - simplified and less agressive taxation would bring in offices / coordinating activities.

    But it needs to invest in education and motivate its youth to remain; lest a decade hence there’ll be little left locally to run the industries developed.

  14. Viking says:

    I like your idea about “consolidate the 1000s of town councils”. Aemann called SZDSZ proposal for that a “genocide on Hungarians”, but we who live in Bp knows how ridicoulous it would be if every house in Gazdagret would have a town council. Half of Hungarians live in villages with max 300 persons and they all have their own town council.
    Otherwise you would lower the State tax income a lot, not possible before much of the State Debt been paid and the State’s costs been cut dramatically.

  15. Rolrox says:

    Not sure how it’s genocide; perhaps that can be explained? I know from personal experiences, its best to quickly reduce costs to live within one’s means. It’s hard, but the alternatives (such as ignoring the situation, or cutting out the minor things like ordering out for pizza) doesn’t keep the bailiffs from turfing you out (I mean having your house repossessed).