A Sunday demonstration in favor of decriminalizing marijuana is likely to be met by far-right counter-demonstrators, Népszabadság reports.
The pro-marijuana Hempseed Society will gather outside the Finance Ministry at 4 p.m. Sunday afternoon, Hempseed Day, to present a Ft 60 billion banknote to a ministry official before marching on to Parliament. Organiser Péter Juhász explained that the state could receive Ft 60 billion in taxes on sales of marijuana if the drug were legalized.
The Society argues that the state can better protect the health of ordinary people by legally regulating the production, distribution and consumption of pot and spending the tax receipts on consumer protection, prevention and medical treatment, rather than on punishing consumers.
An estimated 350,000 Hungarians consume illegal drugs on an average weekend, according to Népszabadság.
Far-right websites are recruiting counter-demonstrators in line with the “traditions” of recent years.
Hey, anyone ready for a counter-counter-demonstration? Against the counter-demonstrators. We should extend the chain, really.
Of course the far-right would be against marijuana, since if they actually tried it, they’d just get the munchies, and instead of attacking a television station, they’d walk over to the closest kebab shop, and once their stomachs were full, well, they just wouldn’t feel like wanton destruction anymore, would they?
Every time the “far-right” does something good, they do something really stupid.
Anyone with at least some brain activity knows that the ban on marijuana is dumb. There’s not one good reason to treat it any different than alcohol or tobacco for example. I can go out now and purchase a lethal dose of alcohol, but if they catch me with a pocketful of weed, I’m off to the big house. I personally don’t drink and don’t smoke pot, I gave up both when I turned 18 and really don’t care for the stuff. I want marijuana legalized for two reasons: give one less opportunity for the police to bother you, and to get rid of organized crime, at least the drug dealers. Let the peasants have another cash crop, and sell the stuff to adults anywhere booze and tobacco are sold. It’s really none of the government’s business what adults do to when they are not driving or operating heavy machinery. Pot is a lot less harmful than alcohol, so might as well let unhappy Hungarians smoke it if they got it. Drug dealers don’t ask kids for ID, they sell it to anyone with money. If the stuff is sold at a reasonable price legally, kids may still get it, but not as easily. And it’s true: if we legalize pot, it will be a major turist attraction, not only for hippies, but also people with money.
I’m dying to know, Stan:
“Every time the “far-right” does something good, they do something really stupid.”
What was the last ‘good’ thing the far right did?
Stan is correct: “Pot is a lot less harmful than alcohol, so might as well let unhappy Hungarians smoke it if they got it. ”
The idea counter-protesting this is ridiculous. The problems with alcoholism in Hungary are a far greater concern than anything pot-related. As goes the saying: ‘no one goes home to beat their wife after smoking marijuana’.
Adrian asks: “What was the last ‘good’ thing the far right did?”
Well, neither the far-right nor the far left are pure evil. They are usually not very bright or not very honest or both.
Occasionally they do something useful.
The Hungarian far-right for example go out to the streets to protest the far-left. That’s good.
When Gyurcsany shows up on the completely unnecessary “anti-fascist” demonstrations, someone needs to be out there to tell him that he’s full of it…
Stan,
“The Hungarian far-right for example go out to the streets to protest the far-left. That’s good.
When Gyurcsany shows up on the completely unnecessary “anti-fascist” demonstrations, someone needs to be out there to tell him that he’s full of it…”
Are you seriously suggesting the Gyurcsany, with policies largely in line with Margaret Thatcher, is “far left”? Or maybe “anti-fascist” = “far left”? Please explain.
Why would someone advocate far-right protests but have a problem with anti-fascist demonstrations?
Only if:
a) they sympathise with the far-right
or…
b) they’re too busy hating Gyurcsany to keep sight of this country’s most serious problems
“Well, neither the far-right nor the far left are pure evil.” Stan’s style is not only patronising but sneaky too, gathering semantic ammunition as he goes.
A statement like this invites opposition because the views of the far-right are abhorrent in most people’s eyes. But he also adds the far-left to the equation – arguably a harder entity to assess. Add to that an absolute – pure evil – and he’s all ready to come back at you when you disagree with him.
Anyway, he reminded me of a David Bowie lyric: “To be insulted by these fascists; it’s so degrading.”
Andy,
Apparently you have never been to Hungary and you’re not familiar with what’s going on here.
Our “far-left” got into power about 60 years ago, by selling the country to the Russians. It’s a nice Hungarian tradition, our leaders are always ready to sell the country to the highest bidder as long as it helps them stay in power.
We are “blessed” with parasites: communists, jews, gypsies and white trash. All of these depend on sucking the blood out of the rest of us, and would not survive on their own. SO that’s what I call the Hungarian far-left.
The far right is mostly religious retards and rednecks and people in need of belonging to some sort of herd. They do useful things, such as uncovering and protesting the far-left’s activities and supporting the abused Hungarian minorities currently outside of our borders.
Of course I don’t want them to take over, they only serve as a balance for the far-left.
I’m on the political “far-center”, representing fair play and common sense. I support individual freedom and responsibilty for adults and very strict accountability for politicians. I don’t like freeloaders, political correctness and the anti-Hungarian movement.
Anti-fascist demonstrations organized by the major parasite groups are simply offensive to every decent Hungarian.
Stan,
your English is letting you down again:
“We are “blessed” with parasites: communists, jews, gypsies and white trash. All of these depend on sucking the blood out of the rest of us, and would not survive on their own”
This is not the view of a “far-centrist”, this is the view of a Nazi.
How can you “support individual freedom and responsibilty for adults” when you judge individuals by their ethnic origins and political opinions rather than their actions?
Hey Adrian, I was here first, can you use a new handle please. Regards, Adrian 1
Adrian,
I’m talking about certain groups based entirely on behavioral patterns. I reserve the right to have an opinion on this matter, and I also recognize the right of any individual to break away from their respective groups by not following the pattern. This means that I’m not looking at your birth certificate, I’m interested in your actions and attitude.
Stereotypes are usually rooted in observation, political correctness in ignorance.
I don’t advocate keeping any members of any ethnic or religious groups from entering mainstream society. As long as they are self-reliant and show some respect for our culture, they are all welcome. Unfortunately most of them are unwilling or incapable to take advantage of the many opportunities provided for them.
I could fill pages with my personal experiences with these groups, so I’m not talking about something I’m not familiar with. I know that we have a problem, you either don’t see it or choose to ignore it.
Hungary as a nation should make an effort to increase standards, not to lower them to accommodate groups who take advantage of our “anything goes for minorities” policies.
Adrian 1,
I assume you are Adrian Courage, of Pesticide fame. I doubt very much you were “here” first, but you do have tenure. So you can call me Douchebag.
Stan,
“I’m talking about certain groups based entirely on behavioral patterns. I reserve the right to have an opinion on this matter, and I also recognize the right of any individual to break away from their respective groups by not following the pattern”
Groups may behave, but individuals act. By insisting or your right to voice opinions on the behaviour of groups, you are restricting the ability of individuals, irrespective of the right, “to break away from their respective groups by not following the pattern”. In English, this is called racial discrimination.
It’s a really easy situation to understand, I ask my secondary school students:”if you were a gypsy and people said the things about you that they say about gypsies in this school, how would you react?”. Most of them, without changing their opinion of the behaviour of gypsies, agree that racial discrimination makes it very difficult for gypsies to act in a way you would approve of. If you really want to be part of the solution, stop being part of the problem.
But, hey, what about the jews, and the communists, and the white trash?
Stan, you forgot homosexuals, lesbians, disabled and bigots such as yourself
Stan,
Please start brain before engaging mouth.
All I’m getting here is meaningless one-liner responses. You can do better than that. Tell me if I’m wrong, or just ignore me like you keep ignoring the problem. The politically correct “head-in-the-sand” approach has been tried and failed. Now what?
What you got, Stan, was a considered, many-lined response from Adrian D. Are you afraid to respond to that?
“What you got, Stan, was a considered, many-lined response from Adrian D. Are you afraid to respond to that?”
I ain’t afraid of nuthin’.
I’ll just wait till Adrian “the bag” reads my entire post, give it some thought and writes a real response with at least traces of substance in it. I doubt he can do that, so why bother.
That’s incredibly lame, Stan.
Stan,
As usual, I’m not sure what you’re talking about:
“All I’m getting here is meaningless one-liner responses. You can do better than that. Tell me if I’m wrong, or just ignore me like you keep ignoring the problem. The politically correct “head-in-the-sand” approach has been tried and failed. Now what?”
Is this the post you refer to ‘entire’? ‘Entire’ usually implies rather more than this.
“I’ll just wait till Adrian “the bag” reads my entire post, give it some thought and writes a real response with at least traces of substance in it. ”
What is there to think about? When do you think
“The politically correct “head-in-the-sand” approach”, has been tried in Hungary? You have lived in Hungary, have you, Stan?
Adrian the bag
P.S. Before you wet your knickers over political correctness, I don’t like it – ask Kincs!