Prime Minister and Hungarian Socialist Party (MSZP) Chairman Ferenc Gyurcsány is unlikely to be replaced in the near future, according to a recent analysis by Nézőpont Intézet (Viewpoint Institute), summarized by conservative daily Magyar Hírlap.
The Socialist Party includes several factions which have different political weight, the analysis said, and those groups which most regularly or openly criticize the policies of the party or Gyurcsány have little political weight.
Meanwhile, his real opponents – who represent the traditional left – tend to hold important positions themselves, and thus tend to avoid public confrontations. Most prominent among this group are Chancellery Minister Péter Kiss, Defense Minister Imre Szekeres and former Labor Minister Mónika Lamperth.
For its part, the party’s Parliamentary faction has to date stood behind Gyurcsány.
It is because of this balance of forces that initiatives like the one in Pécs to force Gyurcsány’s removal always fail.
Looking forward, the analysts said Gyurcsány could call an MSZP “election congress” as early as the beginning of next year, where he could renew his chairmanship. After this, a second congress would be held to evaluate the government’s work, and to prepare for the general election scheduled for spring of 2010. This second congress would likely take place after the June elections for European Parliament, or after a decent interval from his move to have himself re-confirmed as party chairman.
Gyurcsany is a criminal, and should have been replaced in October, 2006. He’s just lucky that Hungarian people are not yet aware of their own strength.
What makes you say that he is a criminal?
Well, he’s brought an entire country to the brink of ruin, presided
over the wholesale theft of EU funds, mismanaged the budget and
the economy, dismantled what was left of the health service so that
the care is so poor that people die, and lied about the whole sorry
business till he’s black in the face. At the very least he should go
on trial. Then there’s election fraud, gross negligence, abuse of
power, misuse of state funds and assets… the list goes on. And not
just him, but the whole rotten filthy swarm that dares to take the
name of government – that the flesh doesn’t burn from their faces
from the shame of it… it’s beyond me.
Stan & Quatermass:
Thank You for your in-depth and clear analysis.
Could you also do the same for the previous Governments since 1990, so we now what differs them?
Maybe you could propose how this situation should be solved, like who should replace Gyurcsány, which Party should form the new Gov’t?
Quatermass,
Please tell us when was the situation different under Commie rule? Even the whole Kadar myths of happy times was entirely financed by Western loans.
Viking asks, because he doesn’t know: “Thank You for your in-depth and clear analysis. Could you also do the same for the previous Governments since 1990, so we now what differs them?”
What Quatermass wrote about the current government pretty much sums it up for all since 1990, but the Gyurcsany Crime Syndicate appears to be the low point.
Now I’m going to test your Orbanophobia, and offer FIDESZ as a temporary solution. Not the best, but better, and we need change now or it will be too late. Let’s hope Orban has learned from his own and Gyurcsany’s mistakes. What can we lose?
Stan: “Orbanophobia”,
Well, as you read in another thread some days ago I wanted the old Gov’t to totally resign after the outcome of the Referendum was ready. Just to test Fidesz populist rhetoric. Let them explain for the masses that Kadar-country does not exist anymore.
I had no illusion that a new Fidesz Gov’t would be better, but the outcome of the Referendum showed that people needed a wake-up call.
For some reason did not Feri follow my advice. Maybe he had better advisers.
The only thing that can surprise me though is how some people (no names mentioned) who call the current Gov’t ‘Communist’ do not have a problem with Fidesz, which has several old Communists in the top leadership. They are accepted, but not the MSZP’s. That puzzles me.
Viking:
I call them commies, communists, filth, scumbags, maffia and many other names to-boot, but ust because I hate these parasites with avengence, that does not mean that I support Fidesz (even though I think that the country would be far better off with any government other than the MSZP)
I do not support FIDESZ!
I do not believe that you are Hungarian, but you have definitely developed an annoying Hungarian trait!
Please be educated once and for all:
** JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY HATES THE COMMIES, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY SUPPORT FIDESZ! **
Gyurcsany Ferenc is nothing more than a common criminal, corrupt and a thief. He has and continues to use his influence and commie connections to line his own pockets while the Hungarian economy and the lives of her people are destroyed!
John Simpson: “** JUST BECAUSE SOMEBODY HATES THE COMMIES, IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THEY SUPPORT FIDESZ! **”
I would be the first one to agree on that silent statement. The question is more why the “COMMIES” in Fidesz get a free ride, at least when they are in power?
If you really “HATES THE COMMIES”, should you not hunt down the surviving bastards everywhere?
Also my personal experience under the 1998-2002 was that the Fidesz Gov’t in some aspects were more ‘Communists’ that any MSZP Gov’t been. Why should I want them back?
Apart from a short lived medieval glory – King Mathias – .HU as independent nation did not exist until 1919, that is less than 100 years: it was a province of Austria, ruled from Vienna. As corollary .HU population never succeeded in establishing a national political trait nor identity akin to other nations’ it remained isolated from the international events and rest of the world and was fed by the neighboring countries ideologies either Fascism or its sister the Communism.
This is an inbred nation.
If you scratch the skin of an average “Pista or Steve” you will find a swinging pendulum between a rabid fascist and virulent commie. Depending his perceived interest one day he is a stalwart Nazi and Commie on the next. Very often a hybrid or mixture of both.
That is why one cannot apply a clear ideology to any politician because they have none.
uropean
Like many other European countries – late products.
Do you find many different “national political trait nor identity akin to other nations’” in Europe today?
Still being a farming country, people outside the bigger cities tend to be afraid of ‘the guys from the next village’. That is nothing unique for Hungary, same thing everywhere else.
If we go a bit more east, into Transylvania, we find the very progressive and very pro of homosexuality and multiculturalism, type of people. Maybe not.
If you live like for 100 years ago, very much of your mind get stuck in the values of that time.
Most of W. European nations have well established multi party systems with long traditions: each party has a particular ideology their members adhere to.
There is no such thing in the Hungarian political landscape: the voters alternating between Communist and Fascist leaning.
After WWII most “nyilas” nazi party member morphed into Communist overnight, and nowadays many former Communist lackeys suddenly became stalwart “democrat” expediently – on the outside only for the benefits they are hoping for.
Apart from the intellectual confusion (eszmei zürzavar) the economical scene is equally murky: almost all the current leaders mind was formed at the Karl Marx university, sucking the infinite wisdom of the Party latest teaching ordered from Moscow.
Today the newest order coming from the EU’s neo-Marxist bureaucrats from Brussels: sexual deviation is the norm, one must shout up as not to offend the Muslim, Roma, “sensitivities”.
All these issues engender hateful social tension that bound to erupt one day, unless someone calls in the Belgian tanks to crush the insurgency.
Stan: “After WWII most “nyilas” nazi party member morphed into Communist overnight”
True and the major reason for that was that the Hungarian Communist Party around 1945-47 was so small, that there were not enough bodies to man the whole security apparatus the the Soviets needed to build up. Ex-”nyila” trained in ‘security work’ (read hard interrogation methods) were seen as loyal enough. They were just ordinary people who had a lack of empathy. If they are paid good enough (compared to others at the time) they work for anyone.
I think though we should differ the special Security Officers to ‘normal’ Politicians, who tried to make a personal carrier. They more belonged to the Nomenclature and today to the Political Class, regardless Party.
The hard and confusing times in the 1920 through 1940 was much shared with other East-European countries, including Germany. Western part of Germany came out of the mess, but the Eastern part of Europe has still some years to catch up mentally. We look at a generation or so.
The signals from Brussels are the composite of the majority of the Europeans and hits us all equally. It is everyone’s responsibility to chose the correct people to represent them at Brussels.
Viking and Bela
The truth is that every democracy gets the government it deserves. The ‘Rabid Right’ – ‘Loony Left’ both try to present their leader as the Messiah who will cure all ills (even granny’s bunions).
Bela I know that it is hard for a leopard to change its spots, but Gyurcsány may have seen the light like St Paul on the road to Damascus. Certainly he seems to have done so and become a democrat.
Odin’s other eye
I have a very strong uncanny feeling that you are not born to .Hu otherwise you would know that Gyurcsany sudden ability to behold the “light” is the result of his innate nature to swim with the opportunities of the day.
I restate the salient and obvious facts: Hu. politicians devoid of any intellectual and moral conviction of any kind and this is a genetic defect and the corollary of centuries of isolated, inward looking existence. The .Hu language itself is not conducting to the understanding of the Anglo socio-economical models and beyond, so .Hu remained a German aftermarket for long after which switched to the Russian one. Prewar Germany is a combustible subject for many.
That’s all that formed the present .Hu leaders mindset and nothing else can penetrate into those dense heads.
There is more hope invested in the very young people who are free to travel, to learn and to look: but there is no guarantee they can see what wiser eyes could see for the true wisdom is invisible.