It’s no secret that the SZDSZ is really struggling these days, with polls showing the party likely to get zero seats in the upcoming European Parliament elections, and to be zeroed out of parliament whenever the next general election takes place. Still, you’d think they would at least try to get their public faces to look a little less grim than the mug of EP candidate and District VII politician Annamária Koromzay on a campaign poster I happened on last night.
What’s so weird is that the gloomy picture of Koromzay on the poster seems to be a touched-up version of the same gloomy shot of her on the district council’s website, meaning they had a chance to make her look a little less suicidal, and didn’t. Anyway, at least someone in Hungary believes in truth in advertising.
She looks like an understanding mother, listening to the woes of her child!
Then why does she wear that ‘I’ve taken a sharp bite of something … or someone’ jaw?
Obviously she is contemplating the hardship of the Magyars after the Trianon and that is not a laughing matter.
Hungary is a wonderful country with a great culture. Get om with your life and start to realise what you have instead of calling out Trianon all the time. You cannot change it, so what’s the point?
We can raise awareness, educate the Hungarians.
Ostensibly in the name of national self-determination, the Treaty dismembered the thousand-year-old Kingdom of Hungary, a self-contained, geographically and economically coherent and durable formation in the Carpathian Basin and boasting the longest lasting historical borders in Europe. It was imposed on Hungary without any negotiation by vengeful leaders who were ignorant or ignored the region’s history, and mercilessly tore that country apart. By drawing artificial borders in gross violation of the ethnic principle, it also transferred over three million indigenous ethnic Hungarians and over 70% of the country’s territory to foreign rule. Following the war to make the “world safe for democracy,” the Treaty even denied the affected populations the right to choose under whose sovereignty they would live. Only the city of Sopron in western Hungary was allowed a plebiscite to decide its future, and it opted by a large margin to remain in Hungary. Although the peacemakers included provisions for the protection of minorities in various international instruments they insisted the successor states sign, the latter generally ignored their promises and the individual and minority rights of ethnic Hungarians were violated.
Time to review the FACTS!
Mr Siegel,
“Time to review the FACTS!”
OK, now we have reviewed them.
What is next action?
Or all Hungarians should just look like Annamária Koromzay, contemplating these FACTS?
There are ample number of successful precedents, South-Tyrol in Italy, the Basques and Catalans
in Spain, the Aland Islands in Finland and even the Gagauz in the Republic of Moldavia.
The United Kingdom also granted wide ranging autonomy to Scotland, to a lesser degree to Wales and let go most of Ireland a long time ago. The French government facing mounting pressure for autonomy by the Corsicans and other minorities.
Why can’t the United Nations or the European Union force the mini-imperialistic nations in the
Carpathian Basin to do the same? Failing to act, they will be responsible for the largest scale ethic cleansing in Europe! in however subtle and mostly clandestine ways, it will be done.
There is far too much injustice here, Hungary have only been able to begin the campaign since 1989, we will continue until we are heard.
Fair enough.
Autonomy in different degrees is of course always a possibility. It would then not change the borders of the NationStates involved.
The way forward is obviously to get more integration inside this part of the EU, like:
- Romania joins the Schengen-area, so the borders between Hungary and Romania disappears.
This should happen rather soon.
- both countries introduces the Euro, so the same currency applies to both countries.
Hard to think when this could happen, min 5 years, but it can be 10 also.
- a close co-operation between different ‘Hungarian’ MEPs from both countries to work for better protection of typical ‘Hungarian’/minorities issues, like the right to use the language, schools etc.
I would think this is already in progress.
- the possibility to submit violations of laws to the European Court of Justice.
As members of the EU both countries have made it legally binding to implement the rulings of the ECJ.
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The above does of course only apply on Romania and Slovakia.
For Serbia and the Ukraine it will probably take at least 5 years before they becomes members. On the other hand they can come in with both Schengen and the Euro from day one.
So if we can move freely between the geographical areas, speak our language and use the same money – is that then enough?
Bugsy Siegal, I wish you would say more of what you think will happen with regard to the post-Trianon Hungarian-inhabited territories that belong to other jurisdictions. I am particularly concerned about Bácska, especially the Szabatka, Zombor, Ujvidék environs. I know at first hand that things do get pretty grim there for the Hungarian population, since most of the local Serbs are now not the old indigenous minority but the new arrivals from Bosnia and Kosovo. I cannot imagine any sort of EU intervention – not, at least, until such time as the foreign ministers of EU states are nationalists, unlike the current incumbents. For some reason, the neo-con US Senator Lantos has taken in the past few years to protesting the plight of Hungarians there. That worried me, for obviously, Lantos has a motive, and I waste not a second on considering the possibility that it is to secure the Hungarian interest. Something is afoot, though. And I don’t like the feel of it.
Hi Sophie
We have to encourage the Hungarians in the region of Delvidék and within Hungary that we are one, and we support there genuine Hungarian Nationality.
The Balkans and Central and Eastern Europe in general is not a melting pot, the present national minorities emerged not by people crossing borders but by borders crossing people. Any attempt at turning this region into a melting pot turns it into a ticking time bomb, as older and most recent history amply testifies. I believe that an international conference should be convened with the intention of applying the rules of democracy to the ethnic mosaic of the Balkans.
The new guiding principle should be self-government along the line of primary loyalty, which is nationality. The aim need not be the drawing of new borders along national lines but allowing the people a genuine choice not only over which party to support but also what national unit, country they would like to belong to. Whereas there is a general commitment not to allow new ethnic cleansings, there is no similar commitment for preventing the slow, creeping version of artificially induced ethnic change and all the
concomitant suffering and conflicts. In my opinion the best guarantee for ethnic peace in South-Eastern Europe lies in adopting the cantonal model, which has been found working so well in Switzerland. Sadly that is not what the international community is striving for.
cont:
There is much talk about the need for a multiethnic society in the former Yugoslavia and beyond that. Older history and the events of the last ten years show us that the way to achieve and preserve such a model lies not in mixing peoples that speak different
languages, follow different religions and even use different alphabets, but by allowing each national group autonomy, self government. In most cases this autonomy can have a territorial basis, and where it cannot, it can be based on the voluntary association of the individuals, like the various denominations are organized. It has been found working not only in Switzerland, but also in South Tyrol, in Catalonia, and hopefully it will work in Corsica.
That model should be introduced in Serbia, particularly in the Vojvodina and the Sanjak. That is what the millions of Hungarians in Slovakia and Romania are striving for. An “Eastern Switzerland” in the Danubian Basin was a dream once, advocated by many.
South-Eastern Europe, composed of several countries made up by autonomous Kantons can find not only peace but also unity within
the framework of European integration.
That picture is worth a thousand words and sums up the current state of the SZDSZ, dire
Things could turn ugly!
Did somebody mention Lendvai Ildiko?
Thank you, Bugsy Siegal. Your proposals are certainly fertile ones. But as you no doubt know, the Vajdaság has had autonomy as the province of Vojvodiana for a long time — suspended only temporarily by the late Milosevic. But that does not prevent, inter alia, the sixty-year prison sentence of the Temerin boys as punishment for their part in an innocuous brawl. At the moment, the Vajdaság’s autonomy seems to be working as an incitement to brutality. I wonder: the Revision Clause in the Treaty of Trianon … might that be revived? There’s scope in that for border re-adjustment.
Dear Mr Siegel,
“The new guiding principle should be self-government along the line of primary loyalty, which is nationality. The aim need not be the drawing of new borders along national lines but allowing the people a genuine choice not only over which party to support but also what national unit, country they would like to belong to.”
I have to say this very much sounds like what I am speaking about where the importance of the NationState, like The Republic of Hungary, is reduced, or even totally vanish, being replaced more by a cultural union, representing the ‘Nation of Hungarians’.
I am not really familiar with the Swiss Canton-system, but I believe that Swiss citizens have the right to free movement and settlement everywhere inside Switzerland meaning between different Cantons?
How would you then connect this right with your demand to:
“preventing the slow, creeping version of artificially induced ethnic change and all the
concomitant suffering and conflicts”?
I assume that you do not want to revert the last 100 years of ‘ethnic cleansing’ in this part of Europe as a pre-requisite for such an implementation?
Give it up Viking. You suck.
Godot,
Now you are doubling as ‘Bugsy Siegel’ also?
There are connections:
- Godot claims to be in Las Vegas
- Bugsy Siegel was a known gangster in Las Vegas.
Why not let the real ‘Bugsy Siegel’ answer the question?
Sorry, Swedish meathead, your conspiracy theory is just dumb. I would never use other posters’ name, it would be like sinking to Vandorlo’s level. I wasn’t speaking for Bugsy, he’s perfectly capable of speaking for himself, I was just inserting my own thoughts: you suck. Ask anyone…
OK, have to believe you on that.
But you have some of Stan’s way.
Or it is actually 2 of you guys?