A top priority for the radical nationalist Jobbik party is to protect Hungarian ownership of arable land in the country, Krisztina Morvai, who heads the party’s list for the European Parliamentary elections, told MTI on Friday.
Jobbik is determined to hinder foreigners to purchase land in Hungary, and will initiate a review of relevant passages in the country’s European Union accession agreement.
As for agriculture in general, Jobbik supports family-operated farms and wants to protect the Hungarian food market from foreign products.
Hungarian farmers should immediately receive the same EU subsidies as their foreign competitors, Morvai said.
Economy is to serve man rather than vice versa, she said and noted that Jobbik would seek to eliminate the “benefits given to foreign businesses to the detriment of Hungarian firms”.
Well said,as small time farmers she will have our total support.
MMhh tasty produce will remain instead of the imported crap for Tesco.
In theory, Morvai, sounds good. In practice?
Wait and see!!! I have seen more than a hundred decrepit villages that depend on agriculture for a living. Hungarians are selling up = Ez Haz Eladó
signs everywhere. Farmers (and their children) starved of cash, interest, and all-round indifference, seek to earn an easier living elsewhere. The patriotic non-sense of Morvai
stating the return of land to Hungarians and/or, making foreigners ineligible to own agricultaral
land is vote-winning rhetoric that does nothing to address the real problems. There is a whole catalogue of controversial material on this subject but I am not getting paid so, suffice to know that you can research it all for yourself.
(Morvai is the usual empty windbag who seeks to
get votes by the easiest means).
I hate Tesco and I want to see fresh Hungarian products in the shops but a whole “butter mountain” to climb I’m afraid.
a living
“will initiate a review of relevant passages in the country’s European Union accession agreement”
Just hot wind, there is nothing to review.
There are no mechanisms to review a country’s accession to the EU. The thought that any country would ‘go out’ of the Union does not exist. It is like if Texas would like to leave the US to join Mexico.
There have been some bilateral agreements in connection to the Hungarian EU-accession that are a type of tit-for-tat agreements – If Hungary does not allow citizens from country A to buy land (farm-land not specified) then Hungarian citizens will not receive any work-permits in country A.
These type of agreements have been pushed not only by new EU-countries, like Hungary, but as much or even more by old EU-countries that are afraid of a legion of Hungarian workers ‘stealing’ the work from the locals by dumping salaries.
That is the back-side of what Morvai/Jobbik is saying: it will start a tit-for-tat game and Morvai/Jobbik can travel around the Hungarian countryside and tell the locals:
- they cannot sell,
- they cannot go outside Hungary to find work,
- the Hungarian State does not have any money to give to them,
- the EU does not have any money to give them.
The EU-subsidies to farming is on the way down and should be so. Why should we normal taxpayers pay the farmers to produce products that we obviously does not want to buy for the price they want to have?
“MMhh tasty produce will remain instead of the imported crap for Tesco.”
Oh I see, so it’s foreigners fault that Hungarian produce is expensive crap?
Hungary is in no position to employ protectionism, trust me on that one. Not if we ever want to develop out of the dark ages.
The economic business climate is so bad in Hungary that is why the government has to pay foreign businesses to set up here. Perhaps if Jobbik focussed on the real issue rather than disguised racism, they may have a credible offering.
Oh I forgot, that would require intelligence rather than ignorance.
JD and Viking@ You are so out of your league on this one.stop embarrassing yourselves by claiming to know this subject.
Our Agriculture and water are our only resources left for Hungarians, we need to protect and subsidies our farmers and help produce local and international quality produce, with flavor and nutrition, this is what Jobbik are promoting Quality Bio Agriculture that we can market to ourselves and export.
JD says: “Hungarian produce is expensive”
Do you live on welfare or a micro-pension?
Figures…
‘Quality Bio Agriculture’
Perfect I love it!
But I want to pay the price when I buy it, not over my tax bill, that is the difference.
Me and my wife have run several business in Hungary the last 25 years (I have only been partner for the last 15 years).
During the Communist time it was a question to have the right connections to start a business and normally get both protection and monopoly in that area. This was before my time.
Since middle of the 90s it has been harder (= normal) to run business in Hungary. A net profit of 10% is the norm. Competition has increased, the customers have an increasing demand of quality, which cost a lot of invest to meet. My Hungarian wife has of course looked into how you can get money from the State/City/etc. She never succeeded in that, but we were never farmers.
Myself have never believed that a business should need any support. It is swim or sink. Some of our business has sunk, but you survive by adopting to reality and improve your business. To build anything on that someone else should pay is not in my mind, but I am a Viking, not an Hungarian.
Why farmers, in all countries (this is *not* an Hungarian question), should be protected against reality I cannot understand. If Hungarian farmers have good products to produce, without State subsidies, do it!
Just stop speaking about some one is stopping you. That is just your imagination.
Viking shows his limitless ignorance again:
“Why farmers, in all countries (this is *not* an Hungarian question), should be protected against reality I cannot understand.”
Because you cannot feed “reality” to people, they prefer food.
Farming is hard work, and probably the most important one. More and more people leave their farms to find an easier way of earning a living.
Farmers take care of the land and produce food (I bet you didn’t know that). If they stop doing it, there will be trouble. If your stinking real-estate business goes under, no one cares. If a country becomes dependent on imported food, it’s bad news, especially for Hungary. After all, the one thing this country is good at (or used to be good at) is producing excellent quality food.
If you want imported Chinese rat milk with toxic waste burger, that’s your problem. I want to restore the Hungarian agriculture and food industry to its former glory.
Unlike you, I know what I’m talking about. I not only eat every day, but also know a thing or two about farming, I did it for quite a few years. It was an interesting experiment, why don’t you try it?
My only point is that I do want to give my tax money to farmers who could not make their business profitable without subsidies.
The same goes for any farmers, regardless country. They are doing a business and why should they always be protected?
When they have a good year, do they share their profits with me?
So why should I share their losses?
We are going towards a world where locally grown and produced will be more competitive, due to the we must take out the real cost from transports. This is the way to go. It cost big money to build infrastructure that can handle an enormous amount of food etc to be shipped around Europe. Plus the Global Warming effect, so we need to cut down on transports. This will make it more expensive to transport French Brie to Hungary, so we will have to both pay and eat the local sajt instead. This is not screaming for more subsidies, like fabian and Godot, this is levelling the play-ground.
Viking doesn’t understand the consequences of a dog eat dog society, this society was encouraged by Capitalist greed and monetary fund, which leads to more poor, rich use poor as slaves to maintain there lifestyle in affluent areas by cheating honest people who eventually turn into freedom fighters to bring back a humane manageable society that caters for the majority of the population instead of the greedy egotistical, who just cant satisfy themselves who then start experimenting in drugs and perverted sex.
Errr…last time I checked, it takes two to make a
purchase…a seller and a buyer. Why not come down
harder on the sellers? They are being unpatriotic.
Why give tax payers money to them. Just tax their
sale so that it makes no financial sense for them
to sell. Or why not force everyone to “work” on
the farm, you know, Chairman Moi style. Or why not
have a “Buy Hungarian” campaign, with anyone seen carrying a banana, shot on sight. Tax payers money
would be better spent on employing “inspectors” to
visit shops to check that only “Made In Hungary”
products are stocked and sold. Or why not recognize that small farms cannot be financially viable. On the other hand, farming sounds so
hopeless that we should all, as another intelligent poster pointed out, start
experimenting in drugs and perverted sex. WTF
Or maybe, why not start with some kinda reality
check.
Viking@I have to agree with you (shock) regarding the transport infrastructure-the day when transport takes into account the real energy cost of e.g flying lettuces from US to UK ! is when food will be local again.Watch all those big new out of town hypermarkets start to close down first,now is the time to support local and buy home grown.
You know what, I think the bottom line is that 90% of Hungarians don’t have it in their mentality to be competative and enterprising. Ask foreigners what they think and most will shake their head in disbelief at the way shops and businesses behave over here.
What Hungarians do like to do is to blame someone else and then go and look for a governement grant of handout. But what kind of an example does the Government set when they go and do exactly the same to the IMF and EU.
It will take generations of attitude evolution before this country functions. My advice would be for Hungarians to travel abroad a little and see how civilisation works. It might just speed up the process.
@Godot – “If a country becomes dependent on imported food, it’s bad news, especially for Hungary.”
My country imports almost all its food because the land is not suitable for agriculture. We buy quality food from almost all over the world, and the prices we pay are much lower than in Hungary. We are eventually better off. Even some food from Europe is cheaper there because the average customer in Europe pays a higher price so that the overseas price can be lowered (subsidized).
Just because a country can produce food, doesn’t mean it would be good at it. I helped bring Hungarian pork to my country, but it doesn’t compete very well with pork from other countries. Ultimately, Hungarians have to decide, how much extra taxes should each person pay to keep a pig farmer in business. Multiply that by all the other farmers (in other sectors), and you’ll start wondering if the country really is better off as a whole. Even our friend, Stan, the ex-pig farmer, became a millionaire by doing something else besides farming.
I have no problems if Hungarians want to own their land and do their own agriculture. Farming is hard work, but it’s a personal choice to do it, and that’s true all over the world where people are making the decision whether to continue the family tradition or leave it and start a business, or even drive a cab. Why should Hungary be any different?
@Viking, fabian: Actually, the ecological and economic benefits of local vs. non-local sourcing of ag products aren’t as clear-cut as you might think (and I used to assume as well). From what I recall, studies done in the US showed that the transport and logistics efficiencies of the big food wholesalers and retailers were so strong that the energy they used to move some foods literally across the continent was sometimes less than what it took small farmers to haul similar stuff in from just a few tens of miles away. And there are similar ugly environmental tradeoffs with organic versus “convention” farming. For many crops, if you don’t use herbicides, you have to till all season to keep the weeds in check, which leads to more topsoil loss. And topsoil is *everything*.
I personally like to buy Hungarian (and even more locally-grown) produce – and when possible organic produce – over imported/conventional stuff, but the more I know about it, the less compelling both seem.
Meanwhile, it’s just silly for anyone to get all moralistic about “buying Hungarian” while at the same time hoping/expecting Hungary to be a strong exporter of agricultural products. You can’t have it both ways.
Less pesticides less Cancer in Society healthier population, also employment for the nation agriculture industry is a bonus for the Nation. Bio organic produce fetches a higher price on the market, which maybe promoted for export as Environment friendly, the pesticides don’t absorb into the water supply and native animals aren’t affected by the poisons created by producing bulk genetically modified fruit a vege. The transportation , erosion and green house gases is a poor debate when it comes to the health of the Animal and Human environment. We encourage a healthy diet and lifestyle, prevention is better then the cure.
Unfortunately, people are trusting. We assume that pesticides have undergone lengthy testing by the government before being cleared for use. But this is not the case. Instead, the government accepts the minimal testing done by the manufacturers themselves. Thousands of people have to become sick before the government will even begin to rethink its approval of chemicals used in pesticides (chemicals used to kill insects and other pests) and herbicides (weed killers).
Contrary to what manufacturers of lawn and garden products tell their customers, herbicides and pesticides are not “perfectly safe.” These chemicals are broad-spectrum biocides (chemicals that can kill living things). Therefore, it is the chemical nature of these chemicals to harm organisms other than the targeted insects, other pests, and weeds. Unfortunately, the other organisms include homeowners, their families, neighbors, and pets.
The pesticide/herbicide industry downplays this by arguing that the chemicals in the products are extremely diluted. However, the pesticide/herbicide industry does not mention that these chemicals are extremely toxic even in very small amounts.
http://www.healthsearches.org/Categories_of_Q&A/Integrative_&_Alternative_Medicine/1285.php
So Erik, Profit over Health? Profit Profit Profit before people? Enough of this sick greedy behavior! are you this ignorant? why cant you see this? who is the radcal the Jobbik or the Profit that is killing people for Money? when is this madness going to stop, it’s time for a cultural awakening and world revolution, with no Club of Rome, UNICEF or Rockafella Rothchild intervention, all they want is to profit out of any means even first creating a problem health and environment and later offering a solution for profit! Wake up!
Garda: “who is the radcal the Jobbik or the Profit that is killing people for Money?”
Phew, Jobbik would just like to kill for race and religion, a far more worthy and less radical cause eh Garda?
Garda haven’t killed anyone, USA killed thousands of Iraq and Ahfgans etc etc, Israel Killed thousands of Palestinians also encouraging USA, Garda = Nil, You are supporting the Fascist dictatorship not me, we are wanting peace for Hungary thats why we came to be, while you are feeding and supporting the Killing Machine and your too ignorant to wise up. Sorry to upset your b/shit story version bla bla bla!
Israel are the chosen people by the book! however not by God.
So, to go back to the horse-shit…
In Jobbik-land it will smell just that, because no chemical fertilizers and pestisides will be allowed.
I assume a good example of this in History is Good Old Kampuchea.
North Korea is probably another country that also is doing good with out any evil chemicals.
It is just one big problem with this and that is – at time of the Tribes came from riding in from Central Asia, the Carpatian Basian was mostly puszta. When the new Immigrants had been assimilated into the local European mix, they became lazy and starting farming instead. This of course destroyed the puszta and we have now a totally destroyed country-side where the puszta can just be found in special small places guarded by the local Roma.
Why not demand to take back the puszta?
It must have been those evil Europeans that destroyed it!
Farming was obviously never a thing for a ‘Tiszta Magyar’.
You been drinking too much vodka Viking? or taking LSD or Weed from Amsterdam the fucked up land of losers! you are showing signs of disillusion again.. Go slay a dragon while you are in La La land.
Garda@ you present a brilliant argument,unfortunately lost to many here.
Let me congratulate you and keep up the support.
“You been drinking too much vodka Viking?”
No, no. As a supporter of local produce that would then be palinka.
If I would be a real ‘patriotic nationalist’ as you, ‘Hungarians’ in the diaspora, I would of course drink Akvavit or Rent Brännvin.
You ‘Hungarians’ would recognise the latter as ‘Krumpli Palinka’.
But I understand your preference for Vodka. Your (Pay) Master is the Russian FSB, so no questions asked.
Tingeling!
@Garda: Noting the obvious environmental tradeoffs involved in the question of smallscale/organic versus conventional modern agriculture does not mean choosing “profit over people” or “profit over health.” It means choosing reason over hysteria – and, frankly, choosing not to be a dumb communist hippy.
I have family that operate pig farms in Hungary. Good, hard working, industrious people. However, pork is bad for your health and hungarians should eat less of it. it is also very water intensive, requiring massive antibiotics, and is a potential health hazard. Capitalism is freedom. Free markets for free Men. Huungarians have nothing to fear but their government which has been Socialist for 70 years. Eliminate all taxes on business and income, Hungary would be a dynamic coountry. But never gonna happen. Capitalism represents Freedom, Socialism represents death/poverty/starvation.
Garda, who mentioned the US or Israel? It wasn’t me.
Sounds like you Jobbik agenda is bubbling a little too close to the surface there. Steady on old boy, don’t forget it’s a hidden agenda.
Salk4@ I think you are describing a typical pork ‘factory ‘ farm.We too have a pig farm-Mangalica,who are totally free range,with no anti-biotics or added medications (Bio-Kontroll certified organic)As for water,they use our stream to drink from and downstream to bathe in–really quite intelligent animals.
This is what is meant by local products and specialising.
Fabian is right, free-range sure beats intensive animal factories. Of course it’s not as profitable, and may need subsidies to survive, but it’s a worthy cause. Taxpayers’ money is wasted in so many ways, at least let some of it go to supporting farmers who produce quality food.
Godot@One correction–it is actually far more profitable,it can be sold at a premium because of the ‘organic health’ image,it needs no anti-biotics
and they feed themselves (except in winter).
The only snag? EU legislation decrees that to sell on the market place we would have to use Gov.approved regional slaughter houses (not our local Schwab Kolbász maker) and provide vet certificates proving they had been injected etc.. thus totally destroying the free range local product image,hence our meat for family and friend consumption only.The EU rules are designed solely to protect the ‘factory’ farmers and their vastly subsidised process and in no way benefit the consumeror independent small farmer.Our agri minister Gráf Jozsef is sitting on 16000 hectares in S.Hungary just waiting EU funds to build a huge pig ‘factory farm’.
Mad cow disease,scrappies,swine fever,chicken infection–show me ONE bio/organic farm that ever suffered from any of these.
@fabian: You are 100% correct here – gov’t regulations and subsidies are always tilted towards larger producers. FYI I was shocked to read about the regulations heaped on slaughterhouses in the US – one rule is that there has to be a private bathroom *permanently* reserved for US Dept. of Agriculture employees. If you’re just a small guy, you can’t afford this kind of crazy overhead. Same with subsidies; it’s no coincidence that there is apparenty more factory farming in France than in the US.
Erik@I don’t know about France but the US Carlyle group as devastated Polish small community farms-40000 pigs in one series of filthy concrete sheds ,all animals fed a powdered feed and water with added anti-biotics,living above their own shit,never to see daylight ,and they did the same in Mexico.Now the US wonders why ‘Swine flu’ breaks out.
Carlyle groups president was on air saying that they got almost the whole Polish meat industry for 10cents to the Dollar–profit first as usual for these greedy destroying multis.
fabian: That’s a nasty story. Still, it’s the job of companies to make money in however way they can, within the boundries of the law. Anything less – by which I specifically mean all this shit about “corporate responsibilty” – and they are cheating their shareholders. So the answer is to change the law, or raise public awareness and put pressure on them economically. Either way, harping on western multis in a country like Hungary is not serious, because big int’l firms tend to respect the law *way* more than local firms.
Erik@Yes but only because they are powerful enough to lobby to change the laws to suit them!
Even within one year I have noticed a marked deterioration in the vegetables and meat products
in Hungary. Butchers shops selling local produce have been closing down to the extent its hard to find one in a lot of places.Supermarkets supply tasteless, mass-produced, inferior foodstuffs. I would have thought that one of Hungary’s strengths would have been its ability to grow fresh vegetables and nurture livestock that provide us with succulent meat.
Pesticides, battery farms, EU subsidies, the mass-producers, and regulations that favour the latter are the deck that is stacked up against smallholders et al.
This is just another nail in the coffin of free range agricultural produce that not only afflicts Hungary but the whole world and his wife.
PS
JD is an astute man as far as I am concerned.
He is aware that Hungarian politicians and businessmen/shopkeepers/hoteliers/ administrators etc need to change their attitudes and way of thinking to be able to compete in the ever-changing international markets. Protectionism and subsidies do nothing but endorse the idea that fairygodmother is just around the corner in case of emergencies.
Let the voice of reason dominate these pages. Less of Trianon,WW1 WW11, ethnic minorities in foreign countries, extreme parties (left or right-wing),EU/IMF/Soros corrupt politicians etc etc.
Hungary needs immediate action to avoid it falling
into the abyss and any notion of its individuality and culture will be lost forever! bureaucrats
I appreciate the complement QC.
Thanks
FABIAN! It is a corporate run pig farm with 1000(?) pigs. Fairly confined; I dont know if they go outside, run around,etc. I presume they get antibiotics, etc. Didnt seem terribly inhumane but not like your Mangalica example. But whetther the pig is free or caged, pork/meat is pretty unhealthy. So the argument could be whether to eat pork/meat to any extent. Meat production consumes massive energy, water, petroleum, corn,etc. It is a very expensive way to deliver 1kcal of energy to a human. If the true costs for a kilo of pork was reflected at the store, all of hungary would be vegetarian. And they would be better off in terms of their health; the government would pay less to the bankrupt healthcare system.
Salk14@ You are simply pointing out the errors of factory farming producing unrealistically cheap meat.I can’t disagree with you on that,however in old Hungary individuals kept a few pigs in the back yard in every village,it was bred and then slaughtered to provide yearly luxuries for the family.The EU is against this ethical sustainable approach and the city dwellers have been convinced to eat cheap meat from the supermarkets.
Our pigs are almost 100% self sufficient with 2 hectare of land and forest to roam in,find food and shelter–no electricity,no anti-biotics,no water (we have a natural stream and well) and only in winter do we need to help feed them.
PS In 5 years we have not lost even one Mangalica to illness,infection, or minus15C winters.
fabian,
It is not the EU that stops you from selling meat from unlicensed slaughter houses. It is common sense. It was in 2 local butcher-shops in England were practices were not followed that the spread the Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (coming from cows infected with ‘Mad Cow’ disease). There is also a reason why pork meat is not on the menu in the MiddleEast, because not good treated you get trichinosis and other nice things in it.
I am old enough when I grew up in Sweden we had to buy milk in special shops. They could only sell milk products, nothing else, because if milk is mistreated it makes people very sick. Now we can by milk in different containers much more safe and easier. Inyour world that is of course bad and we should get back to the old way?
So in the future Jobbik-land every ‘Tiszta Magyar’ will get a pig to have in their back-garden? Which piggies will then be used for the food export that will make Hungary so great again?
Misunderstand me correct now, I am not against farmers, regardless size, as long as they do their work without disturbing me with begging for money. I wish everyone good business and that I can be sure that the food my wife buys is reasonable safe for eating.
Viking@no body is talking about unlicensed slaughter houses–But in the earlier days every small community had such places,all controlled by ANTSZ. Now we have only regional slaughter houses.
Did Hungary ever suffer Swine fever,Mad cow disease,scrappies,chicken inf under the old system–NEVER.And even if an incident broke out it was localised and easily stoppable unlike todays centralised system.
As for the village household with a back yard pig-they are well cared and well fed because the villager would be eating it himself-logical.
fabian,
Where is the EU-decision that “The EU is against this ethical sustainable approach”?
EU has no opinion on the size of the slaughter-house, just that it should handle certain criteria, which ANTSZ is suppose to control.
My own experience from the Hungarian Catering Industry is that ANTSZ has had harder rules than the minimum rules, so it is hardly the EU who has been forcing the trend of closing small units and concentrating it to bigger units. There is work going on in the EP, especially among the Green parties, to change the handling of animals, demanding shorter and GPS-controlled transports etc.
Close to half of the EU-money goes to agriculture projects, many of the benefactors are small farmers. Not so many in Hungary though more in France, the UK, Germany. It says itself that this cannot just go on. The tax-payer cannot continue to feed the bad farming business.
@Fabian – I commend you on your ability to rear the mangalica. I can see where this method is feasible when the meat can be charged at a premium price, and the demand is low.
However, if you did this for run of the mill pigs, then you will not get economies of scale, with the end result of that all pork will be charged at a higher price. I’m not convinced that the farmer will be better off because demand will fall, or people will switch to substitutes or consume much less.
Now, while you state that your pork or similar is healthier (which is possible), you are also forgetting that in a factory farm, the diet is controlled and you know what the pigs are eating. In the free range variety, you have no control over what the animals eat. If there is pollution nearby (land, air, water), or infection, it will end up in the animals, with the farmers none the wiser. In a factory farm, this is easier to control, and manage.
Personally I feel safe buying from a bigger retailer, as I know I can sue Tesco and get something if I consume something harmful. Not sure how much I’d get if I sue you, or Zsolt the farmer. I’ve nothing against a small farmer, but what is the level of my protection if something goes wrong.
UJ how can a free range farm not know what they feed there animals, within the boundaries of there surroundings you can see the natural vegetaion ? You would rather eat meat that is full of antibiotics and toxins, A lot of pig shit is one thing; a lot of highly toxic pig shit is another. The excrement of modern pig farms is hardly even pig shit: On a continuum of pollutants, it is probably closer to radioactive waste than to organic manure.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/12840743/porks_dirty_secret_the_nations_top_hog_producer_is_also_one_of_americas_worst_polluters
@HP – You cannot totally control everything that a free-range farm animal eats. Free range farms can still be exposed to acid rain, polluted air surroundings, or contamination from neighbouring areas.
Your story was not a pretty one, but there are definitely farms in between which are more ethical.
I have had personal experience with pig shit when I was in the military. The toxic fumes from a nearby pig farm corroded and destroyed some of our military equipment. We eventually shut down (bought out) the farm because it proved practically impossible to lower the toxicity of the farm by any cost effective means. That farm was even smaller than this ‘large’ Danish farm which is only 2% the size of that Smithfield farm. http://www.elgersma.info/2009/02/08/pig-farming-in-denmark/
Pig shit can be toxic regardless of the size of the farm. The question is not on the size of the firm, but rather how farms/farmers deal with the effluence, and how legislation is implemented.
Btw, Salk14 is correct on the global warming of rearing pigs or other animals. Probably wiser, healthier, and more ethical to stay off meat, if you’re really concerned.
UJ and Viking,
Keep talking about stuff you know nothing about, like farming, pigs and Hungarian politics.
@Godot- You’re right, I don’t know much about farming or pigs beyond that experience. But I can smell shit a mile away (actually it was 1.8km), and I know how to keep healthy better than the average Joe.
Hungarian politics? – like I said, I don’t care either way about the ownership issues, but I just hate seeing bad economics.
Oh yeah,the anonymous above was me.
To go back to the main issues here:
How will Jobbik with their 0-2 MEPs:
- “protect Hungarian ownership of arable land in the country”?
- “hinder foreigners to purchase land in Hungary”?
- “initiate a review of relevant passages in the country’s European Union accession agreement”?
- “protect the Hungarian food market from foreign products”?
- “eliminate the benefits given to foreign businesses to the detriment of Hungarian firms”?
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I believe Jobbik will have an easier task to renegotiate Trianon, than change anything in the Hungarian European Union accession agreement.
It is just hot air and no substance. No difference from other political parties.
Read there policies Dickhead Viking!
@Gramps – I tried to, but didn’t get that far. The jobbik website starts their Russian, French, German & English pages (not Hungarian) by boldly displaying the Visa/MC logos to solicit donations even before talking about their policies. So, I just hit the back button. Nice one.
Makes you wonder who funds jobbik!
Who funds Jobbik? Probably people who are fed up with Ballik.
Do you know who funds MSZP and SZDSZ?
Probably Fidesz!
Anonymous,
Fidesz probably never funded Jobbik, but there has been considerable co-operation on local level, even in Budapest before the 2006 Local Election. That made of course Fidesz take some of the cost and give a lot of credit to Jobbik.
For the moment Fidesz’ interest seems to have shifted more to MIEP, which they are using to draw right-wing voters from Jobbik. Voters that would anyway not vote for Fidesz today, but probably did that 2006.
The Hungarian rich guy behind EchoTV is known to favour Jobbik and has supplied different resources to them direct or via different fronts, like Barikad.hu.
Finally Jobbik is more and more aligning themselves with the Russians. Jobbik’s President for International Affairs was probably recruited by the KGB when he was studying in Moscow. Time to wake up from the long sleep and pay back the new Masters in FSB. The Czech Security Services has claimed that FSB paid some of the people protesting against the US Shield-system there. We are just waiting for the same story here inside 2-3 years.
I recently met some very wealthy Americans who live very upper crust suburbs in America. They are raising their own chickens! They live in multi million$ homes and have small chicken houses to produce eggs. Apparently this is becoming a trend in America. i dont know about the legalities however. With GM’s bankruptcy and collapse of America, they may start raising pigs too. Toxic pig manure a problem? what about the toxic GM pig manure?