EP results in; Fidesz dominates as Jobbik nears 15% of popular vote

Thanks God! The HUNGARIAN nation are aweking. It will bring light for all the other oppressed nations of the world. The JOBBIK leads the way for all the nations in Europe. We have not forgotten our roots. The Mongols, The ottoman empire, The Habsburg empire, The Soviet Union failed on the Hungarian spirit and tradition. The zionizm will fail as well. No doubt about it. God Bless the Hungarians! Come on EUROPE! JUSTICE FOR HUNGARI

A very sad day for Europe!
Uk gets 3 BNP MEP`s and Hungary gets 3 Jobbik MEP`s.
Ironic as people who voted for BNP basically hate
the influx of Eastern European migrant workers, mostly the Poles, but believe me the BNP foot soldiers wouldn`t think twice to laying the boot into a Hungarian migrant worker. Yet strange that Jobbik and BNP will become bed fellows.
If Hitler had stayed in power, then he would have carried out his plans to deport the Magyars back to
Asia. I expect all the holocaust deniers and paranoid racist Huns to come crawling out of the woodwork.

Misi etc.: leading the way in Europe? you gotta be fucking kidding me. wanna know what people outside of Hungary really think of the way your country is going these days? People are slowly becoming too afraid to travel to your lovely place because there is the wide-spread view that far-right fascists roam the streets in Budapest thanks to a flood of Western media reports on Jobbik, the shameful killings of Roma etc.. German newspaper “Die Zeit” titled a feature on Hungary just the other day saying “How low can a country possibly go?” That’s starting to be the consensus now, so wake up and see what’s coming your way, or just close the borders to Europe for good and declare yourself to be Hungarystan, the greatest nation that has ever been. See if that makes it all good, warm, and cozy, all zionist, gipsy and foreign free, so you can slowly suffocate in your own foul, inbred smell.

The EU is headed for the ash-heap of history. It just is a matter of how long the Eurocrat elites can maintain their anti-democratic power structure in the face of public opinion that seems to be going counter to their new world order society. The Irish vote “NO” on the Constitution? No problem, you must vote again until you get it right. It seems to be the case that virtually everywhere that the “people” of Europe get a chance to vote on advancing the EU agenda, they vote against it. But that doesn’t even seem to slow down the aristocracy from advancing the scheme regardless. So far, so good. But those of you who bang on about “zionism” being the cause of problems in Hungary are really doing yourselves a world of harm. In addition, you are doing the country you claim to love a great deal of harm. When one has a serious problem, the first step to solving that problem is to recognize the problem, and the true nature of the problem. The sad fact of the matter is that Hungarians have been the main culprits in the f’ing up of Hungary, not zionists, not gypsys, not the USA. Maybe the USSR had something to do with it, but chaps like Rakosi, Kadar and Gyurcsany have done more than their fair share. And if we are going to be honest, we must include all the good Magyar people who love things like a 13th month salary and 3 years of paid child care leave, not to mention unlimited medical visits, and to pay 300 HUF for this is too much. We must grow up and take our medicine.

If we analyse the votes really cast and not the relative %, we can see that very much the MSZP-voters did not show up. Just go to election.hu and play with the graphics and everyone can make their own analyse.
In the 2006 General Election the Fidesz/MIEP/Jobbik totalled (2 272 979 + 119 007) 2 391 986 voters.
Preliminary figures for yesterday shows (1 630 482 + 427 213) 2 057 695, meaning around 250 000 less voters in the EP 2009.
Compare that to MSZP showing in 2006 2 336 705, yesterday 502 607. Conclusion is that the MSZP-voters showed their disappointment with the Governing party by staying at home. EP elections does not feel so important for this type of voter obviously. The traditional Socialist election machine did not work this time either, as it has failed after the 2006 General Elections.
The coming months before the General Elections in 2010 will be dominated by how Fidesz will handle the threat to its sought hegemony in the 2010-14 Hungarian Parliament.
Jobbik on the other hand will rather fast be seen part of the establishment and there will probably be some internal and expenses rows that could change the picture rather fast. Now Jobbik will be judged on how they actually voted and not only on rather meaningless slogans without any real explanation what is meant. Life started just to be more complicated on the right side.

Your just a bunch of sore losers )) Yes I believe in Krisztina, Magyarország a magyarokje..

@Levente: That should be “Magyarország a magyaroké”, but bless you, you soooo want to be Hungarian. Good for you! Congrats, I am genuinely and paradoxically very pleased. No more games, mumbling behind closed doors, pretending democracy doesn’t work etc… Jobbik were, for want of a better word, smart. They worked hard, they campaigned like hell and they really did work for each and every vote. They were everywhere, relentless, disciplined, smart-professional looking (none of those crappy beards and facial hair nonsense that ‘intellectuals’ seem to prefer here)… And the other parties were useless, absolutely useless. The other parties need to smarten up fast.
@Viking: ‘May you live in interesting times’ as the Chinese curse has it. Well here we are. Looking at the Jobbik vote there is a definite west-east strengthening of 10% or more (10% in the West and over 20% in the East). I agree, Fidesz are in a tight spot now despite their strong mandate. Every word about határon túli magyarok (those trapped beyonf the borders post Trianon) will be another potential vote for Jobbik not for them. Demands to renationalise industries is another vote for Jobbik. It looks like Orbán and Fidesz are going to actually have to find some real policies to distinguish themselves from Jobbik.
No more games for these types of Hungarians, no more complaining, time for them to get to work and show us what they made of.

Morvai and her Jobbik crowd ar idiots – not just for the idiotic and hateful things they say, but also because they think they actually won something yesterday. Yesterday was the first step to losing in 2010. Gaining 3 seats in the EU parliament is just an opportunity to embarrass Hungary and add more reasons why rational Hungarians will vote against them in 2010 (remember LePen?). Every far right idiot who could find his way to the polling station yesterday voted. The real story is the all the voters that did not show up because there was simply no one to vote FOR. Well now they will have something that they will very definately want to vote against – just read the postings of the Jobbik supports here and you have reason enough to fear what would happen if these nutjobs actually joined a Fidesz led government. Orban is also mistaken in the fact that he actually won something of consequence yesterday – but he’s not an idiot and he is not stupid. Watch how fast Orban distances himself from the far right and will now try to move to the center. But we have seen Orban move to what ever is expedient for him personally and we won’t believe him. MSZP and SZDSZ also lost yesterday, perhaps terminally, but they ar smart enough to actually see it. The real victor yetsrday will be for the totally new political force that will emerge to stop the right wing idiots in 2010 and finally say goodbye to the corrupt crowd we’ve been forced to chose from – Fidesz, MSZP, SZDSZ, etc.

Vándorló,
True, Jobbik has just finalised their Kindergarten-exam.
Now they will have to form a block in the EP with other Nationalist Parties and try not to kill each other in the process. Obviously Jobbik cannot sit in any block together with anyone from the ‘Great Hungary’, so there goes a few candidates. We will see in a week or so, where they end up. The prize is 1 MEuro to share. Given the fact that Jobbik and MIEP still have not agreed upon how to share the money (38 MHUF) from their 2006 Election Alliance (3rd way), this can though be a long-drawn process.
Fidesz always blamed MIEP for loosing Vikis re-election in 2004, now they have the same horrifying perspective. The question what would be worst for Viki, loose the 2010 Election or have to make Vona Gabor Deputy PM, just to get a majority?
The MSZP old election machine worked very good in 2004 to scare the MSZP-voters to go out and vote to stop King Viki to get 4 more years. The key question is if that will work again, then 2010 (latest) will be the 1st opportunity to test that machine again. The other elections and referendums were not really so important in these voters mind (then they have stayed home since April 2006).
It will be an interesting time to watch.
A new party in the middle is badly needed, but probably is the time too short. The main problem who-ever runs the next Government, the room to change any fundamentals are very limited. Just check the Polish Twin disaster.

@Paul
I believe the Hungarian voters know who is controlling the nation and we dont want to be paletinians in Hungary..

Levente,
“we dont want to be paletinians in Hungary”.
In difference to you and the rest of your aliases, I have been in Palestine, or more correct on what earlier was called ‘Of Israel occupied territories’.
I have been on in the Gaza strip, in Raffah, in Gaza City and visited the Beach Camp. One of the refugee camps since 1947-8.
I have seen the daily sufferings of the Palestinians, I have spoken with them, shared (good) food with them. This was before all the Intifadas, so life was not as bad as it probably is today. It was bad enough at that time to understand that hopelessness can create desperate people. I would probably have been one of them, given the same situation.
So, to compare the Palestinians living conditions, including the daily humiliation, to ‘Hungarians’ is a disgrace to every Palestinian. You have not a clue what you are speaking about.
If I would compare any group to the Palestinians in Hungary I would choose the poorest Roma in Eastern Hungary countryside. Some places I have seen make the Beach Camp in the Gaza strip look rather cosy. That is also the area where Jobbik has their strongest support, making the connection between how Nationalism works.
What is the difference between a Zionist and a Jobbik-person? They hate each other.
What is the similarity between a Zionist and a Jobbik-person? They both hate everyone else who is not like them.

“Love all Hungarians and like minded Truth seekers”
And that did exactly not prove my (and a lot of other’s) point…?

Not going to waste my energy of leeches..

@Viking and others:
You say that the EU is ruled by the EP. This is completely false. The EU is run by the unelected European Commission, which is one reason why it is a completely anti-democratic institution. The EP is mere window dressing to make it appear to have some democratic elements. In actuality the powers of the EP are virtualy nil. The only purpose the EP serves, besides the aforementioned window dessing, is to provide hundreds of people with lavishly funded “jobs” and massive spending accounts. A more useless and anti-productive entity the world has never seen. The only thing that might redeem it is if our newly elected MEP’s will band together with other like minded groups from other nations, regardless of how they might feel about each other, and expose the EU for the farce that it is. If the EU will be useful it must go back to its roots as a European Common Market, and stop attempting to impose a Eurocracy that interferes in the day to day lives of as many people as possible. It is already approaching the status of a “soft tyranny”, if it continues it won’t be too long before the softness wears off.

If you look at the reason why the BNP in the UK won a seat, you will not be surprised that Leeds and Bradford fall into his territory!
Leeds and Bradford = Pakistan
In the UK we are creating Countries within the Country and there seems no end to the influx!
I am not a Jobbik supporter, but I do see logic in some of their manifesto!
Take a look around Blaha Luzja Square and you will see the African drug dealers plying their trade in open view of the police and in an internet cafe close to the square they sit the whole day sending out their fraudulent scam mails!

Sophie, the only ones imposing hardship on themselves in Hungary in the 21st century are Hungarians themselves. But of course, you wouldn’t know that, you don’t live here.
Right wing idiots such as Jobbik will just exaccerbate the situation.
Hungarians need to refresh their entire idiologies, drag themselves into the 21st century, learn from eveyone elses mistakes rather than just maintain the status quo with their dogmatic pessimism and makes the same mistakes over and over again.
To this day I can not really understand why there is no credible alternative to the politics here (Jobbik included). There is such a narrow mindedness on how things can work, this country is lost until it can truely break free of its low IQ approach to existance.
And tell me, why do you still live outside Hungary if it is so wonderful to live here?

Hooray!
at long last a victory for Hungary! A victory for mustaches and fat bellies and cheap nasty beer and crappy workmanship and small minds and intolerance and penny pinching and rudeness and our entire sexist, racist, bulls**t-filled country!
Hooray!

For a site called Politics.hu i am amazed that we have an election and you write 4 sentences and name only 1 elected person.For example,all week i am reading about the Jobbik Jew wife but now you have the results you do not even say if she was elected.
Seems i have to go to Hungarian web sites in future,dictionary in hand,to try and find information on Politics.I now see this site as a complete waste of time.
People who commented wrote more about it than the site did.

Viking:
Read my posts before you use your knee-jerk responses. 1, I have never identified myself with Jobbik, or any other political party in any country. 2, There is nothing I have said that is a lie, nor have I ever whined about anything. I actually have worked in the EU, so I know exactly how it functions. I have also lived and worked in more than a few EU and non-EU countries, so again I know whereof I speak. In no objective sense can the EU be said to be run by the “nations of Europe”. You also seem to have very little academic training in political science or history, both of which you use in a juvenile fashion. Not that you are the only one. If you actually read my posts, I have taken some of the more virulent anti-zionist forces to task as well for their historical myopia. Finally, I suggest that you try to moderate your tone to that which you would use in a verbal conversation. Just throwing out terms like “lie and whining” on a blog post shows zero courage.

I almost can’t believe the hate that some people like sophie spew here. If i would consider Hungary a “hotel”, then also my wife who spent her first 40 years in Hungary without many a chance to see the rest of the world, likes the “hotel Germany” and the other countries that we have traveled to in the last 2 years…
Well, almost all of the Hungarians that I have personally met in the 10 years that I have spent here (30 – 50% of my time)have been very nice to me and I have absolutely no problems with my neighbors, so there is hope for Hungary and the Hungarians…

To all Hungarians living in Britain – NOW is the time for you to leave!!

fabian,
What hope does Jobbik represent for Wolfie after your female window-dressing Jobbik-member Sophie told him to fuck off Hungary?

hungarians concerned at the rise of racism and of
fascist parties are looking to launch a cultural
movement against racism and fascism along the lines
of the UK’s “Love Music Hate Racism” campaign. A
meeting to discuss is taking place this Thursday in
Budapest with guest speakers from LMHR UK, and all
interested organisations and individuals are
welcome. more info: lovemusichateracism@gmail.com

I agree to a cultural movement against racism.
Racism is after all a crime and we all know that only gypsies commit crime!

Tanarur,
Now we are talking, but I was put off by your comment
‘The only purpose the EP serves, … , is to provide hundreds of people with lavishly funded “jobs” and massive spending accounts’.
I assume you have the same opinion of the English Parliament after the latest scandal?
Your worries about “equal representation for smaller states” does not exist today then *all* member states must agree on everything important. The Lisbon-treaty tries to address that problem, which makes Malta have the same say as Poland. I would, in total difference to you, claim that today’s situation is more the tyranny of the small states, than the opposite.
I can only agree that very few people try to make the case for European Integration. I try to do it, probably not so good and successful, but that is what I believe in.
So, why?
Because I do want Europe to come out of the dark ages of ‘who dominates Germany, dominates Europe’. For this we have had centuries of wars, for what? What we should be looking at is what unites us as Europeans, not what divides Swedes from Danes etc.
Doing this we can build our own strength, standing more free from the US and defend us against Russia and China.
For this we need our own EU Army, replacing NATO.
To be able to create our own wealth it is important that we have a big internal market that can build big companies that can compete on the world market.
If we check history NationalStates are just a blip on the time-scale, it is time for the next blip.

Nick Griffin is the leader of the British National Party, tut tut.
Why would now be a good time for British Nationals to leave Hungary Nick?

Nick apologies…
Lets turn the question around as suggested by yourself.
Why should anyone leave the UK? When subsequently we need everyone who is willing to work and pay into our tax system to hold the country together and pay for the lazy breeding underclass.
NO-ONES taking OUR jobs, THOSE PEOPLE HAVE IT SOOOO GOOD, WHY WOULD THEY.

Even though Hungary enthusiastically sent over 430 000 jews to Aucshwitz (more than any other country) I disagree with the stupid suggestion that jewish people hate Hungarians. However, a small minority will try to justify their hatred of jews by stating this over and over.

Elsewhere, John Boy TDK had asked “Sophie,
What is your actual connection with Hungary? Do
you have roots here? I am curious as you are
clearly based in the UK and for someone with such
Nationalist leanings I wonder why you are so
interested in Hungary. Anyway, some direct
questions for you.
Do you hate Jews? If so, why? If not, why do you
single them out as the root of all evil?
Do you hate people in a position of power?
If you had disproportionate power, do you think
that your agenda would better serve everybody, or
would you force your minortiy agenda on everybody
- as you claim the Jews are doing?
Would you ensure that everybody was treated
equally – therefore protecting the symbols,
culture and rights of all citizens no matter what
their background?
Do you feel that people should only reside or have
full rights and freedoms in the country of their
birth?”

Allow me to repeat the questions I have already asked, in the hope of answers: The German and Anglo media are falling over themselves to portray Hungary pejoratively. The ‘nazis’ theme is the ready-made one they grab for. Yet Holland is not getting that portrayal, even though Wilders’s party did very well there. Why is this so? Ever more difficult to avoid is the answer that Jews, with very, very few exceptions, just hate Hungarians, and they have unleashed their international media power and set it on the country. But why on Hungary?
What is the point in all these demands for personal information from me? Or is that just the stuff-of-joke technique of answering unpalatable questions with irrelevant question?

Oh Sophie, if only you weren’t so mentally ill.

Knowing, with people like yourself and Sophie, its like watching mental patients in a hospital rally each other up with inane and often insane reasoning, sitting in a circle naked and materbating whilst doing so.
I’m sure your vile rantings give you great pleasure, although to any sane person looking in, it is just bemusing and sometimes a little scarey.
I really see no point in entering into debate with you or your kind, it is far more interesting to watch knowing that when the testosterone subsides, you lot really are just dribbling idiots.

In Britain the vast majority of natinalist (BNP) voters are not in the least concerned about Jews. It is Islamists and Eastern Europeans that they see as the threat. If you are a Hungarian nationalist living in the UK, do you British comrades a favour and F*** OFF HOME!

@ Godot
He tried but got his arse kicked big time.

Godot, is that “sorry asses” as in donkey. Interesting, I didn’t realise America entered the war to save the UK’s apologetic donkey population.
And there was me thinking that they wanted to help stop a tyranical dictator that would kill people like yourself for being outspoken.

The Brussels/Strasbourg bureaucrats have you by the short and curlies. Jobbik may represent an alternative with their populist pipedreams.
The reality is that Hungary is up the proverbial spout with a bunch of corrupt commies still at the Helm.
The History that is taught in Hungarian schools and all the fake patriotic rites that are carried out on a regular basis leave students to believe that Magyarorsag is a world beater? The opposite is, of course, true!
Get real. Jobbik may turn a few heads for the moment but real change can only come through a pre-dertimined schedule of reforms that will be implemented irrespective of how many cockroaches are trod on in the process!
Carry on twittering about zionists, gypsies, Trianon, reclamation of territory, the EU/EP
trash camps et al..will ya!!!
Farkas fiddles while Rome burns…

Ricsi,
“Real change is just over the horizon”
But when and what?
With 3 MEPs nothing will happen, so we have to wait until the horizon arrives.
What is the content on “Real change”, so far we know as mush about that as we know why the Gendarmerie would be better than normal Police in the country-side – Nothing.
All examples people mention on these pages, you call for lies, so take the chance and be bit specific than just mumble about “Real change”.

Paramount,
Yes but MDF is still there to build an alternative to Fidesz/Jobbik Nationalistic rhetoric and populism.
You seem to have a small definition of Real Change.
Look up Pyrrhic victory, can be an alternative path also.

Paramount,
If I were you I would look at the just over 400 000 voters that voted for you guys. % is for deciding who is sitting on which chair. Real numbers shows real influence.
The predictions varied from up to close to 60% would vote in the EP election, down to 30%. Not even you will claim that you would have had 15% if the total turnout would have been the double.
I have not seen anyone that said it was an achievement to get 400 000 voters to vote, 3 times more as in the latest election (any type). To just draw out the future as a straight line from here just shows you will have a lot to learn.
Why not start to got to Austria, there your comrades even got into Government, exactly Vonas’ plan 1 year later.
That the Austrian Party not could keep together and was lead by a famous homosexual paedophile just shows how complicated politics can be.

“I just spent 3 weeks in Hungary.”
I suppose this makes you an expert.
“I’ve never had a Gypsy or a Jew try to
steal anything from me while I was there.”
You lucky bastard.
“Only racism and hatred can build walls between people.”
And possibly the outdated idea of trying to speak French in North America.
“enjoy true freedom and democracy”.
It would be nice but sadly unavailable on this here planet.

Shine a light will ya?! I can’t see for looking!