The main opposition Fidesz party deeply condemns any violence targeted at people because of their origin or religion, Fidesz MP Zoltan Balog told MTI on Wednesday, referring to a recent attack on a young Jewish man in Budapest.
The attack happened in District 7 on the night of June 30, when three unidentified men beat their victim black and blue following his positive answer to a question if he was Jewish, head of parliament’s human rights committee Balog said.
“The police are responsible to ensure safety for each citizen. And each citizen that still retains his sobriety is responsible to fight the spread of violence,” the MP added.
I hope Fidesz condemns racist violence against Palestinians also, or is this Taboo for them.
Go f yourself, Chronicles. Or maybe you’d like a turn of being black and blue?
Expect more of this,perhaps street thugs or a deliberate set up–either way ‘Look at us poor jews been victimised again’ followed by hate laws,removal of freedoms etc…
So convenient timing–Cuo bono?
@Fabian – where were you on the night of 30th?
Bring it on you gutless Jew
I wasn walking down Kiraly utca
Actually now happens exactly that what jobbik and
MG and friends have verbally prepared for quite a time now.
The phase is changing from verbal abuse only to physical abuse.
So what will be next. And sophie what you think?
Does all this fall still under “Freedom of expression”?
Judas@NO JOBBIK member as ever been convicted or even implicated in any attack–and you know it!But let us use smear tactics because you can’t beat them at the ballot box,eh ?
Like Fabian, I find the timing rather telling. But no, judas: freedom of speech is not compromised by an isolated incident of street violence, not even if this one happened as MTI says it did.
Chronicles: to be fair, Fidész has to condemn racially motivated violence that happens in Hungary. The sad thing is that it did not condemn the recent police violence against the Gárda.
fabian,
i am talking of the verbal preparation.This
could only happen because the simple minded
followers of the jobbik/mg leadership think
thats what they have to do now.
You will see we will get more of this in Hungary.
The roma suffer this already longer time,but this happens in villages …Budapest is far away.
and by the way : Hitler did not kill or beat a jew,homosexuell,socialist,retaded one either.
Does this mean he is not responsible?
………. who the FFFF^&&%%%%******%%%%CK cares what mszp or fideSSSS thinks !!!
Judas,
What’cha gonna do when he comes for you:
http://imgsrv09.kuruc.org/galeriaN/hir/cigomegdoglesz.jpg
godot,
look at the background of the picture you kindly
asked me to view.
You will see babies and family pics.
According to my understanding this is a “mohel”
if you know what this is?
I invite the guy anytime to my house.:)
Real Hungarians are the safest group of people i have ever experienced having a drink with or socialising, even a good Pig Slaughter is my favourite.
When will Jobbik or any of their supporters condemn this attack? Have they got the guts?
judas,
Good luck with your choice of “mohel”.
Here’s another one you may want to hire for your bris milah:
http://imgsrv09.kuruc.org/galeriaN/hir/józsii.jpg
Your God must be a sick pervert if circumcision is his idea of a “covenant”.
Curious–Yes I openly condemn it for one,but I also question the motives and the timing.
To accept without question is to submit,never fail to seek clarification-just like all those ‘racsist’ gypsy attacks to be honest.
Godot,
i have no idea if my god is a sick pervert,
but if i am informed correctly you made out of our
god ,a god who engaged a surrogate mother,let her
get pregnant by the “holy ghost” in order to claim
him being his son.?
isn’t this even stranger to say the least?
judas,
Sorry, wrong number. I don’t have a god.
Religion is for the gullible, weak minded masses.
chronicles,
i agree ,eating and drinking is very safe with hungarians. But is that all….???
godot,
not having a “prescribed” god is completly
ok. But you really believe that everything is
happening by accident? Nothing behind it at all?
We simply run around,live,write more or less
funny comments,work,get married,drink,eat,have
a child and thats it?
Do you know what is even more fucking sick, its the total rancid arsewipes of this world like Sophie and fabian immediately suggesting this was some kind of conspiracy, setup, exaggeration.
What a total waste of space you are. I wouldn’t even spit to give you a slide.
Just remember, when you pathelogically deny events such as this, as you indeed always do, it doesn’t really stand you in good stead for ANYTHING you say to be taken with any credence.
judas asks:
“you really believe that everything is
happening by accident”
I’m not a believer, but it makes sense, unless you have a better idea.
so anonymous:
why is there something rather than nothing?
(schelling)
The universe just occurs?–the philosophy of oops.
Or is the question silly? (you know we jews like
to ask questions …)
What do you think?Why are you here?
judas wants to know:
“why is there something rather than nothing?”
There’s a shitload of nothing out there, and trillion times trillion plus objects that we have no use for. Did your god put all that stuff there? Why?
Ricsi good on you.
Whatever the motive there is no way this kind of attack can be defended. I think the Jewish people are by and large just as peace loving and reasonable as the Hungarians… and that is very.
Judas you are too ignorant to know the wisdom of real knowing, while your type the Jews who chose to be ruled by a king, and that’s where you went right of course into a downward spiral of Satan worshipping.
Dear Admin,
Why in your opinion is news, someone attacking a Jew?
Again, why is it in your opinion this being news?
Let me rephrase it for you.
Why do you actually present a news item, be it true or not already passing judgment to its origin, culprit or victim as a jew untouchable?
Man, you are asking for it. Who are these dummies, VIP’s?
Interestingly you had no reservations about Hungarians detained, imprisoned, beaten up, incarcarated.
Let me tell you dear admin, or whatever the fuck your name is… you’re going down.
simon and friends,
this guy was attacked because he was a jew.
This is the point and thats why it is news.
It”s not a “normal” street robbery or a bar-fight.
It is a crime based on racial motivation.
Time for your medication Mr Beju.
Maybe they attacked the guy because he was an asshole (not uncommon among jews).
The question is, why do we support non-racial violence by giving out lighter sentences?
Physical attacks on any person should be treated as the lowest form of human behavior and “rewarded” with harsh and mandatory jail sentence. Violent criminals, like the Hungarian police must be removed from society.
Hungarians are attacked by police for defending Hungarian human rights and the police are Israel supported Inkal security!! They have bashed and shot Hungarians, where is the justice? I’m surprised that this is the minimum that occurred so far towards any Jew, goes to show how tolerant Hungarians are, Hungarians have suffered at the hands of the commie Jews and Gipsy crime for a fucking long time and there is no condemnation against racist violence there.. is there ?????????? Get things into perspective.
godot,
you are getting closer…
yes definetly hungarian laws and implemention of them needs an overhaul(hate-speech,freedom of speech,racial based crimes,creed based crimes
etc.)
furthermore i agree that the police force needs
a cleaning-broom .(5300 police members in
far-right union etc)
So there is alot to do…get it done.
and tommorrow demo at the szabadsag ter …
actually 2 demos . i will be there
godot,
do i understand you correctly that you measure
life by “objects” being useful to you?
judas,
Which one are you going to attend?
The pro- or the anti-Hungarian demo?
I’ll be there myself. As an independent observer.
godot,
i will be on both.And i am easily recognizable.
Small,fat,long nose,kippa,magen david tattoo..
shall we meet?
godot,
….and i take you out for a coffee on me..
judas,
Why not?
godot,
ok, where and when?
godot,
cafe farger (zoltan u.18) 11:00 o.clock
judas,
Sounds good to me. How will I recognize you?
godot,
i will have a book on my table:
carlos ruiz zafon : the angels game
and: i will ask people ,if there are, that i am waiting for godot..:)
You guys should buy Arizona Iced tea while you’re at Fargers, its fantastic stuff….
will G,
?
maybe you want to join
judas,
See you tomorrow then.
Will G and others are welcome to join.
I’ll be there white shirt black trousers and shaved head. With a Hungarian flag arm band!
godot : ok
simon: you do not need to disguise yourself.
Come simply as you are.:)
There are some striking features of most messages directed against minorities and hosted by this site: very few authors (2-5 signatures), insults of the same style, same grammar mistakes. What is even more striking is that the ‘far-right’ vocabulary looks more like the Bolshevik repertoire from the ’20s. I hope that people who insist in authoring these things understood my message: they are very vulnerable (and pitiful, of course).
Judas, Godot, I very well might attend tmrw, as I’m a frequent customer at Fargers, and, for Simon and everyone else of your ilk, just a question I’d like all of you to contemplate, and please refrain from slamming or flaming me. How is it that being a nationalist right winger means you are also anti-semitic? I know numerous right wing Hungarian nationalists who hate the current government, and hate the situation that Hungary finds itself in, yet they don’t hate all jews, or any real group exclusively. Personally, I think Hungary needs a dose of healthy, constructive nationalism, and I certainly understand why so many Hungarians turn to Jobbik, but, and again, why does that mean you also need to have so much hate? Seriously, I think that Hungarians should start buying more Hungarian products, I think the Hungarian co-ops are a great idea, I too find it offensive that so many historical hungarian buildings are being bought by foreigners, but, in that case, why so quick to blame jews? How come you don’t direct your anger properly, the people actually doing the selling? Everyone tells me about how they hate microsoft, but, it was the mid-level bureaucrat who actually took the money under the table who needs all this anger directed at him. All i’m saying is that I think many of you have your aggression misplaced.
Will G. Go to Cafe Farger and join the crew that regularly post their rantings and ravings on this site about nothing in particular.
Your “home on the range” style of banter should be a calming influence on the Chairman Mao-style lunatics that spout interminable bullshit ad infinitum hearabouts. Morvai might join you?
Careful not to spill your coffee.
Safe home,now!
Yes dear willieboy,
I detest it too when a parliamentary opposition panders to the same masters while publicly promote change to difuse real opposition crying out for change.
It’s a shame isn’t it?
You still do not understand why people blame the jews do you?
It’s because you run the country and ran it to the ground. Do you think people don’t realize that? Obviously you don’t, that’s why you have to flee everytime as will be the case this time too.
Carl,
What an intelligent post! We’ve learned so much from you.
Will G,
No worries, unlike Carl, we’re all civilized people.
Judas and JD,
Have you ever read Nixon’s diaries? It is a compilation of his legacy and experiences.
In it he tells about the Jews in a plain, easily understandable, unbiased terms given the fact, his foreign minister was one of the most vicious ones. He claims you guys have a death wish.
Ultimate words.
Why can’t you learn? It’s either in your bloodtype or you just know no bounderies because of your greed? My bet’ it’s both.
Beju, as much as I dont want to, i’ll try to engage you in some normal dialogue. Honestly, I don’t really understand why everyone blames Jews, but thats just me. It would be nice for someone to give me some straight facts, with data, etc. For that matter, see, this is where I think you need to brush up on your reading comprehension, like how i’m not insulting anyone for example.
Dear Willie G,
Normal conversation you aspire having.
I believe I have told you earlier in normal conversation to brush up on your history knowledge before you offer opinion here.
You still haven’t been able to do that it seems.
Before normal conversation may begin between the two of us, this is pertinent and paramount for you to engage and indulge in.
Will G How is it that being a nationalist right winger means you are also anti-semitic?
Because these people are not real right wingers, but rather third way lefties who just doesn’t call themselves socialist or communist. While they have rhetoric about free your mind, think for yourself, don’t follow the false messiah and so on, all their action is about collectivism. They are not looking for or offering any real solutions, just the blame game. If they would be real right wingers, they would start to ask real questions. But they can’t because of their collective mindset. In their world an individual has no power over their own destiny. The last thing these people really want is an informed individual who wants to make his or her life better and wants actual answers for actual questions.
There exist real Hungarian nationalists and right wingers, but you won’t find them among the jobbik/MG csorda.
We Jobbik believe in our individual creativity however also that the highest law is Gods Law of ethics and morals; we don’t believe in a international dictatorship by the power elite who oppress countries and people for there own profit and control. The process of divide and ruling nations through Orwellian media which limit peoples ability to co create by fear campaign and down right fucked up ethics which are generated by the neo liberals.
They hide behind the word democracy!! They over indulge in destructive free will , by generating so much freedom that protects the criminals, thieves and corporate psychos . We as individuals have the ability to co create and help one another as a nation by expressing our talents, rather then living a dog eat dog society what the Power elite generate.
Are and one other thing the time has come for the awakening of the people and the power elite are shaking in there boots, because we are not the drugged up miss informed populous that they tried to brainwash, we are fresh blood of Hungarians who have had enough!! We are united and as Hungarians we can prosper with love, morals and ethics which are our priority focus. We are here to inform people that ignorance is bliss for the power elite, but Hungarians are not ignorant, they have awoken , so stand back folks for the quickening … Szebb Jovot..
to all of you i had the honour of meeting at fargers yesterday:
Thanks for the pleasant company ,i will be off
for my summer holidays until end of august.
And for the rest:
Maybe it is time to rethink your attitude.
The jews (and others) whoes dignity and life were
taken under nazi-occupation were first and foremost “Hungarians”.And hungarian arrow-crossler
delivered them to their destiny.
So in reality the discussion should run around
what certain hungarians did then and what has to happen in order to avoid repetition of Hungarians
turn on hungarians. And if possible without the
traditional anti-semitic tirades….
simon,
can you come back for a moment to the
“hungarian-carpet” before you fly off
with galatic statement…Seriously.
Talk about hungary for hungarians ..
What does actually mean?
God, i still cannot believe that in this day and
age people still have this mentality. I am black,
and African and have lived in Hungary for more
than 10 years. My son is half Hungarian and will
grow up in a society like this. Wow, i thought
Africans were backwards in their thinking, but
this is a whole new level of ignorance. Strangely,
enough, some people who post here write up better
English than i can conjure and i am a Harvard
graduate. I have lived through 2 wars and just one
advise “Wake up”
Violence is violence, whether racist or not, we as
humans whether non believers or believers will
always find something to hate someone else and
justify it with the most Irrational ideas.
Whether Jewish, or black, or gay or Right wing
supporter, believe me, in 10 years, you will find
something new to hate and will find even bigger
and better ways to share it.
i believe the people writing on this post are
intelligent people, and as i can see big history
buffs, if so, then please brush up history and a
suggestion to read “Az Ember Tragediai”
By the way, your racist comments are welcome, so
please feel free, you wouldn’t be the first and i am
sure its not the worst I’ve heard
Ricsi,
Here I am in beautiful Sopiane only to find out that you went into hiding in your native UK.
Oh, well, I’ll just have to do the job without you.
It’s not as much fun; but still the results are the same.
We have a few good photos of Hotpaprika on Erzsebet ter. Will post them on Parkereso.
Have you read the new Extradition treaty between Hungary and the USA? You should…
Csunyabb Jovot!
Jonvik – You know how you can tell if someone will went to Harvard? They’ll tell you. Just a little joke
Agree with almost everything you wrote, trust me, spend some more time here and you will see how wrong you are about the ‘intelligent people’.