It's hard to believe this could possibly be true, but just a few days after the Justice Ministry was forced to issue a humiliating apology for its minister's use of bogus video to dramatize the government's efforts to clamp down on domestic terrorism, it seems that another senior government official has been caught talking utter BS on a related topic. According to this MTI brief on hir3.hu and other similar pieces, Chancellery Minister (i.e. prime ministerial chief of staff) Csaba Molnár said yesterday that the savage shooting of a Roma woman and her daughter early on Monday had been timed to coincide with Sunday's Roma Holocaust memorial observances.
The reports are (as so often) a bit vague, but no matter how Molnár said what he said, it seems that he was either making this up, or improperly divulging otherwise confidential police evidence. So unless we receive any evidence to the contrary, we will assume he had timed his statements to coincide with the government's ever-present need for a distraction from its other myriad problems.
Yes. This fragment of humanity is just as despicable as his mentor gyurcsany. He's too dumb and naive to foresee what's in store for his like. While his mentor is trying to extricate himself and flee, this dumbass hasn't been given the tip yet.
Boy, you'll be the subject of admiration and expectance of the population in prison.
Csaba Molnár is nothing but a communist lacky spewing out false information for his criminal masters. But why the surprise?
Dissemination of lies is what communists do best after all!
@John Simpson
Csaba Molnár is nothing but a communist lacky spewing out false information for his criminal masters. But why the surprise?
Dissemination of lies is what communists do best after all!
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Exactly! Which is why these people are the best suited to run the election campaign: the more you have been proven a liar the higher your qualifications to manage the MSZP campaign.
Hence you get this story:
Secret services minister to leave post for Socialist party campaign work
And this one:
Fidesz charges Socialists planning dirty election campaign
And this man is rumored to be the MSZP's PM candidate! Good luck with that, red scum!
I don't care who tells the truth or why *Molnár is right.* The timing of each 'racist murder' is as suspicious as the timing of a 'bin Laden video.' The first right after the Veszprém blood bath, the most recent right after the Drašković flop and yes just in time for the 'Gyp Shoa' brouhaha. Some other things that stink to high heaven: the VICTIMS are all wrong as well: Vigilantes would target the Sztojka http://bit.ly/10k3E2 types if they could get guns at all which they can't to not mention that Hungarians have become isolated cowardly sheep. The 100 million forint bounty is also unheard of. The highest amount ever offered by the Hungarian government was 1 million. I mean how dirty can politics get.
The timing of each 'racist murder' is as suspicious as the timing of a 'bin Laden video.'
Pávaszem at August 15, 2009 8:26 AM
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The murders are normally committed the night between Sunday and Monday, which probably means that the perpetrators (allegedly 4 from the beginning, now thought to be 2 left) have normal Monday to Friday works and use the Saturday/Sunday to select their victims.
To 'prove' the timing is a bit funny, then it will *always* be in connection to something, especially a Governmental fuck-up, then they do that on a weekly basis.
Obviously time to suspect all people enjoining a week-end off.
@ReindeerFucker: "The murders are normally committed…" 'Normally?' You mean BOTH attacks? And there is already a PATTERN? Funny how quickly you discover the 'pattern' of these 2 particular attacks with Gypsy victims but are unable to discover any pattern to thousands of crimes with Hungarian victims. What gets me though is that the shrillest accusations come from people who are responsible for mass murders from Dasht-e-Leili http://tr.im/wOqm to Gaza. What an obscene joke! "it will *always* be in connection to something" O RLY. What was the Olaszliszka lynching (Gypsy mob beat and kicked to death a teacher in front of his two small daughters) or the Veszprém blood bath en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veszpr%C3%A9m_stabbing 'in connection to?'
PS: I have just read that the Tatárszentgyörgy Gypsy http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/world/europe/27hungary.html ,Csorba, worked for Sun Pharmaceutical Industries in Tiszavasvári and was a known drug dealer with multiple arrests.
Bread and Circus!
John Simpson,
Are you just posting to show that you have not been picked up yet?
It seems the Police arrested some of your friends in Debrecen in the night for these anti-Roma attacks.
Viking,
No. You're mistaken. They are your friends if they actually exist. I doubt it.
Next spring, should a Hungarian government form, which it will, you'll be regurgitating your laughable assertion and lie.
Including the "police" and its members. Don't worry buddyhunch, your type comes. Just make sure you bail before. You'll be found in Israel no doubt, but there are plenty of us who'll look you up and hunt you down. Think about that.
Yes I saw how the 'Denial-machine' has started on kuruc.info. The arrested guys are 'of course not' guilty, then only Roma and Jews can be guilty.
So bad that the Hungarian Police, with the help of FBI, finally could catch some 'Native Hungarians'.
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You will not find me in Israel then I do not regard that as a legal State. You could find me though in any of the Palestinians enclaves, organising anti-Zionist resistance.
Yourself, well I do not think you would leave your cosy living as a wine-maker in California.
As the situation is, maybe you should actually make another stand at the Local Elections in Mor next year. 'Nationalist' BS seem to be in with the local populace, so why not have another go?
@the Lapp Reindeer Fan: "Hungarian Police, with the help of FBI, finally could catch some Native Hungarians" Allow me to clarify that: The 'Hungarian Police' (how Hungarian are they?) arrested 3 Gypsies http://www.magyarhirlap.hu/cikk.php?cikk=176776 (lovely human beings, aren't they?)on eyewitness testimony and physical evidence (stuff Molotov cocktails are made of, sawed off shotguns and traces of the same type of gunpowder they found at Csorba's house on their hands) that connected them to the killings in Tatárszentgyörgy and elsewhere. /nytimes.com/2009/04/27/world/europe/27hungary.html (look at those faces! Does it really not register in your feeble minds that you are looking at GANGSTERS?) A few days later the cops were ordered by… who knows who, the FBI perhaps (what are they doing in Hungary anyway?) to release them. Then came the Debrecen arrests that I simply don't get. One suspect 'K. Árpád' is an ex Israeli, kibbutznik, 'anti-racist' activist, musician, heavily tied in with local law enforcement. Go figure! He's been engaged to play a role, if you ask me, in this anti-Hungarian smear campaign that is designed to render us defenseless while the final vestiges our energy sector, real estate and agricultural lands are stolen. You will probably point out that I am guessing. Based on recent revelations http://bit.ly/KVzVb on how Hungarian law enforcement functions, it's an educated guess though. Wouldn't you agree?
Pávaszem,
Of course you are spinning the denial and 'blame the jew'-machine for the anti-Roma attacks.
No one is surprised and you are doing the dirty ideological preparations for Jobbik/Magyar Garda/'the rest'.
Why do you not read up on the 13 year old UNCHR report where at least one of the 4 Debrecen-Nazis are described when he tried to burn down the Synagogue in Debrecen in 1995.
If you missed the link, here it is:
Human Rights Watch,
Rights Denied:
The Roma of Hungary,
1 July 1996,
available at:
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/docid/3ae6a7e10.html
Note the date, these guys were out early and that the Good People of Debrecen had Nooo Idea that these nice men actually did these things..?
Never heard that one before.
"blame the jew-machine?" We don’t have a pot to piss in any more, Wiking, how could we afford very expensive 'machines?' Guess who can however... How about the 'vilify Hungary machine:' variation on Allied carpet bombing. (On the bright side they are at least not doing to Hungary what they are doing to Iraq and Afghanistan.) "Human Rights Watch… Debrecen Nazis" Stop lying reindeerfucker, there is no connection whatsoever between the arrested kibbutzniks who by the way have not even been proven guilty yet and the fairy tales of 'synagogue burning' by Anatoly Borisovich's Lie Factory and Blackmail Machine published 13 years ago! ( And you were so 'upset' about Boström's 17 year old pictures :))I mean Sharansky these days is too busy exterminating Palestinians so Roth, Levin and other true believers run the HRW but it's still the same old battle ship. Great reference, Lapp! And talking of not having pots to piss in where did the destitute musicians from Debrecen get the millions for bombs, weapons, SUVs and other expenses?
@Wiking, continued: According to a leaked NBH (State Security Office) report: "a gyilkosság gyanúsítottjaiként őrizetbe vett, szerény körülmények között élő személyek ismertté vált szellemi képességeik alapján nem alkalmasak arra, hogy önállóan előkészítsenek, megszervezzenek, majd végrehajtsanak egy kvalifikáltságot feltételező gyilkosságsorozatot, melyhez alapos, feltűnés nélküli helyszíni felderítésre és pontos végrehajtásra volt szükség. A harcászati tapasztalatokkal rendelkező Cs. István is csak a végrehajtás során lehetett a csapat vezetője. Alaposan feltételezhető, hogy a gyanúsítottaknak támogatóik voltak, akik nagy értékű, több tíz milliós terepjárókkal, fegyverekkel látták el őket, nem zárható ki az sem, hogy a gyilkosságok előkészítését is profik végezték." Translation anyone?
there is no connection whatsoever between the arrested kibbutzniks who by the way have not even been proven guilty yet and the fairy tales of 'synagogue burning'
Pávaszem at September 4, 2009 1:29 PM
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One of the 4 was convicted for it.
For the rest I will wait for the translation.
OK, since nobody volunteers, I'll have to translate the NBH report myself, AGAIN! Based on their intellectual abilities that have become known in custody, the murder suspects who live in modest circumstances are not capable of independently preparing, organizing and executing a series of murders that presuppose certain skills and require thorough, undetected surveillance and precise execution. Cs. István who had combat experience could only have led the group in [plan] execution. It is safe to assume that the suspects had supporters who supplied them with high value, several ten million [Forint] off-road vehicles and weapons. The possibility that the murders were planned and prepared by professionals as well cannot be excluded. And thus the 'racist murders' business comes to a screeching halt…
Wiking: a. you are lying and b. even if you were not lying he does not have anything to do with the Gypsy murders RDF!
Pávaszem,
Yes and that the weapons and DNA found and all other technical evidence is of course not of any interest. No it must be the "leaked NBH (State Security Office) report" that tells it all, right?
Maybe the report actually existed in any genuine form, I do not know, but if you knew anything of Police work and Intelligence work you would know that exactly these questions and theories will always be discussed inside the organisation. That is definitely not the same thing as it is the truth. It is one version of the explore and question the current trend in the investigation.
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If you all remember that 17 year old (something) guy that bound a girl to a tree and put her on fire a couple of years ago. He was convicted alone to have committed the murder. Among Police it was always discussed he must had have help, that he could not had done that alone.
Well, the court believed that he did it alone.
@Pávaszem
Thanks for the translation my friend, as for VT crawl back under the rock you came
Kane/Law/Dove/Free/etc,
Yes, an Australian posing as Hungarian would never had been able to do that right?
Following up on Bob from his Country Bunker, to create an impression of unity amongst Hungarians against these bad foreigners, by posting positive things about other posters?
Csaba Molnár is guilty! Of what? Everything!
People that have sold their souls to the devil
often carry a vacant and/or "it wasn't me, governor"
stare. -see above photo- Know what I mean?
Bolsheviks of a feather flock together..
Numbers dwindling as they head toward
bad weather!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
New reports have surfaced on the arrest of yet another Jewish organ trading gang in the United States involved in the abduction of Algerian children.
Dr. Mustafa Khayatti, the head of the Algerian National Committee for the Development of Health Research, revealed on Sunday that the New York city police have arrested members of a Jewish gang who abducted Algerian children for their organs.
Khayatti said the arrests came after Interpol found that children in western Algeria were abducted and taken to Morocco to have their kidneys harvested.
Their organs were later trafficked to the United States and Israel and sold for $20,000 to $100,000 each.
The group is said to be connected to Israeli rabbi Levi Rosenbaum, who was recently arrested in New Jersey for the direct involvement in importing human organs.
Following Rosenbaum's arrest, US authorities detained some 44 others, including rabbis and mayors in New Jersey, who were prosecuted for money laundering and human organs trade.
Last month, a report published in the Swedish newspaper Aftonbladet, accused Israeli soldiers of kidnapping Palestinians in the occupied West Bank and the Gaza Strip for their organs, indicating a possible link between the Israeli military and the mafia of human organs detected in the US.
Some Arab countries have called for an international inquiry into the allegations.
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=105711§ionid=3510203
@well well, they were actually paying for the kidneys, 10-15K a pop, and doing the removal in hospitals in NYC. They weren't kidnapping kids, they were paying for the kidneys. Though, it is a bit disturbing, i will admit that
@ Will G;
" They were not kidnapping kids, they were paying for these organs" Huh!
If I were a surgeon, and I did nothing all day but harvest organs from healthy children...after awhile, should I not start to questioning why only children? As well, what self respecting Dr, would remove a perfectly health organ from a child, even with a consent form?
A bit disturbing? At least they were paid for their organs? So that makes it okay?
Does this not scream exploitation to you? Are you saying that children sold into the sex trade should not really complain, cause at least their getting paid??
@Justasking, I don't recall justifying that behavior, just wanted to put another spin on it, in affect, not having it be some huge zionist conspiracy.
Go to the link for another article about it...
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/07/26/2009-07-26_rogue_kidney_brokers_resell_organs_fetched_from_poorest_nations_on_black_market.html
@ Will G;
Okay I read the article. Now what? What spin are you talking about?
Wiking: "the weapons and DNA found and all other technical evidence" Weapons and DNA were also 'found' on the 3 friendly characters http://www.politics.hu/20090804/another-minister-drops-another-terror-bombshell-dud#c12 ( Cigánygyilkosságok: újabb rendőrségi bizonyítékok, Magyar Hírlap, 2009.08.26 ) that were ordered released before the official story changed again, so allow me to be skeptical.
"but if you knew anything of Police work and Intelligence work" Wow! Aren't we lucky to have you! And where have you gained your vast experience in police work? Were you a reindeer mounted cop in Lapland or something? "unity amongst Hungarians against these bad foreigners" Will you quit lying already? Has any harm ever come to you in Hungary because you're a Lapp? Has anyone assaulted or even insulted you? I mean you are insulted here, but you're insulted because you're an asshole not because you're Swedish or foreign!