Leader of the radical nationalist Jobbik party Gabor Vona insulted a journalist in response to a question about Holocaust denial on a morning television programme on Monday.
Vona said “if you are so interested in Jewish issues I suggest you move to Israel”.
The remark came in response to the reporter’s question on whether Jobbik encouraged its supporters to attend events which denied the Holocaust.
The journalists called Vona’s remark “outrageous”.
Hungarian neo-Nazi groups plan to hold an international march and concerts in Budapest on August 15 to commemorate the death anniversary of Hitler’s deputy, Rudolf Hess, and the TV reporter wanted to find out if Jobbik supported this event. Vona declined to answer the question.
Of course we support it.
Was Hess Hungarian?
In what does it exist a ‘Hungarian Nationalist’ interest to glorify a dead German?
Socialists & Liberals hate him, so they have to love him. It’s all very simple.
Automatic association with one’s enemies’ enemies – the standard practice of the sad and stupid.
Vona is just, well, you know what, but in this case where is the insult? Moving from Budapest to Israel gives you better weather, better food, higher living standards… can be a wish, or an advice, at worst…
Always curious how it is non Germans who admire Nazis etc. most while most absolute majority of German’s do not (to point that Jobbik would have major legal issues in Germany)?
Does not say much for the self esteem nor well being of Hungarians and others who need a supposedly strong leader to worship and protect them from those nasty gypsies, homos, Africans etc.?
Interesting how the socialists and fascists have more in common than not.
Andrew you have a small mind.
No one is worshiping Hess because he is German. They’re paying tribute to Hess like one pays tribute to any historic hero.
Hess was not just a German nationalist, he was also someone all Europeans can look up to.
It also points to low self-esteem when people worship other races instead of worrying about, and protecting their own race. Muslims worship Muhamed, so, does that mean all Muslims have low self-esteem?
Free, just curious but before today what was your user name here? Or Viking, can you tell me if this is one from the stable of useless twats that troll the board?
I may have a small mind not to appreciate historical greats such as Hess (who fell or was pushed out of an aeroplane over Scotland/), but it is my mind
About time somebody put the idiot media in its place.If some group wishes to commemorate a guy who sought peace,let them,but be clear this is not Jobbik and as nothing to do with the ‘holocaust’ issue.
I really don’t think MTI has got the meaning of the word “heckle” quite right. But never mind… they were after all determined to make a “story” out of his no matter what.
Sometimes silence, or refusal to answer a simple question speaks loader than actual words uttered.
In this issue, given Jobbik’s earlier statement that the holocaust was ‘regrettable’ and there is no obvious ‘Hungarian Nationalist’ interest to celebrate a dead German, it is a bit strange that Vona lost it so much during this interview.
One must just question if Vona/Jobbik is running the errands of foreigners (= German Quisling) or what?
If there was no other reason for Jobbik to split, this must be one.
How does it help unemployed Hungarians to celebrate the memory of a dead German?
Vikng or Mr Assumption, this is all you do day after day.. willy nilly allegations, he said that he wanted to discuss the parties policies not Hess.
If so, why not answer the simple question?
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“The remark came in response to the reporter’s question on whether Jobbik encouraged its supporters to attend events which denied the Holocaust”
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The simple answer would have been ‘No’, right?
Or is it impossible to answer simple on that question?
When you claim to have 14% of the electorate you are a public figure, that has to answer a lot of stupid questions.
Vona is not up to that yet?
It was lovely to see Vona sending the jew back where he belongs. Now if we had a prime minister and government of his spine and character, Bellensheim (Betlen) would probably move to above paradise. Except there, he’d be toiling, wheelbarreling sand from one dune to the next in search of water and ask directions from local Palestinians to find it.
@Mr Assumption. The interviewer asked stupid question trying to smear Jobbik, and Gabor was fully aware of there previous tactics during of character assassination. Szebb Jovot with a smirk, I was so proud of Mr future president Vona Gabor, go you good thing.
Go back to Israel if you are so concerned about there past b/s propaganda, but we Magyars are interested in Hungarians for Hungary, Szebb Jovot.
HerrAsscended—Not president but prime minister,otherwise thanks!
The interviewer asked stupid question trying to smear Jobbik, and Gabor was fully aware of there previous tactics during of character assassination
HessAscended at August 11, 2009 9:00 AM
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If you want to be a Politician, you will get a lot of ‘stupid questions’ and people will try to ‘smear’ you and your Party. That is how it is. Happens to every politician all the time, the journalist who succeeds will go to Journalist-heaven and win a prize.
So to fall out on a rather simple question, must mean that there is something in there.
Jobbik will co-host the commemoration?
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We can all see how you expect the media to behave in Jobbik-land:
- asking polite questions that has been agreed on beforehand.
viking,
there are no stupid questions .The answers though
can be ….very stupid at times.
since gabor vona himself is highly involved
with jewish issues i guess he suggested to himself too to move to Israel.
i wonder why he is not going though..?
Whenever we stand up to those who deny or minimize the Holocaust, or to those who support genocide we send a critical message to the world.
We live in an age of vulnerability. Holocaust deniers ply their mendacious poison everywhere, especially with young people on the Internet. We know from captured German war records that millions of innocent Jews (and others) were systematically exterminated by Nazi Germany – most in gas chambers. Holocaust books and films help to tell the true story of the Shoah, combating anti-Semitic historical revision. And, they protect future generations from making the same mistakes.
Religious, racial, ethnic and gender persecution is wrong. Tolerance is our progeny’s only hope.
Charles Weinblatt
Author, “Jacob’s Courage”
http://jacobscourage.wordpress.com/
http://jacobscourageaholocaustlovestory.blogspot.com/
@Charles Weinblatt,
Were you not so intent, aggressive, adamant and boring trying to shove your grievance down others’ throat, they might react to it positively.
Were you admitting that communism was your handywork murdering 100 million innocent human beings, you might be reacted to in a different manner by others.
But you (the jews)are incapable of living in peace with any others since your type set foot on this planet. Don’t look ostensibly surprised you are chased out of everywhere you were being allowed in over the centuries.
Is there such a word in your vocabulary as “Why”?
No. It doesn’t exist, because you are humanity’s worst racist type. Accusing others of racism only proves your completely sublime and conniving motives.
You are crooks my friend. Go research your type and after awhile you may encounter the odd species of the human race who DOES get to like you for what you are.
Who do you think you are? Massacring innocent Palestinians by the thousands, women, children, sick or able-bodied at will, laughing from afar as your type have done it just last year, while taking over someone else’s land with impunity, you expect sympathy? You are really out of your minds!! You are a criminal state and people. Always have been and always will be.
And Charlieboy,
Please explain to the readers around here why your murder of others’ vindicate you and make you exempt and let off scot-free of responsibility and accountability for the indisriminate brutality you are known for, and what you’ve been practicing since the birth of your terrorist state?
Because universal laws don’t apply to you only to the ones you press upon as your unfortunate victims? You can do anything at will right?
In your dreams buddyboy!
Take a deep breath brother and get real. You are unmasked and you’ll be held accountable for your mass murders and illicit financial dealings, just a matter of time. Except there’ll be nowhere to run this time around.
Compare Vona’s performance with the recent performance by US Secretary of State, Hilary Clinton in the DRC.
Both got, in their opinion a ‘bad’ question, both choose not to answer the question, but to question the questioner.
Smart move?
Hardly, as politician you are just remembered when you fuck up and we know what Morvai and Vona is remembered for, so far.
But the clowns of Jobbik will continue to make fools of themselves, not being up to be challenged in public and the pressure of public life, were they are being surrounded by people who not say ‘yes’ to everything they utter.
They’re only expressing the truth Mr Assumption and the media are trying to public assassinate them.
Now I remember Ron Paul was a victim of the mainstream media in US, he was also speaking against the establishment.
“Koppany” is none other than Hot Paprika, AKA Laszlo Csikos, (Hotpaprika67 on Youtube) currently living in Hungary on his Australian medical disability payments for mental disorders (which is why we always need to remind him to get back on his medications.) He the annoying troll who is Ricsi little neo-Nazi lapdog, helping set up sock puppet names to make it appear that there are more right wing commenters on this forum than would actually exist. He doesn’t know how to spell in eitherEnglish or Hungarian (it is Koppány, Hungarian has diacritic marks if you had not noticed.) which is usually a good giveaway that the insane ranter is Hot P.
Menedetter–’setting up sock puppet names’ LOL and what previous names did you go under,pathetic little agitator? You girlies must be getting worried these days.Take care…..
But the clowns of Jobbik will continue to make fools of themselves, not being up to be challenged in public and the pressure of public life, were they are being surrounded by people who not say ‘yes’ to everything they utter.
Viking at August 12, 2009 7:30 AM
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Is this twit still here spouting all his nonsense?
Apparently so.
Morvai’s uncompromising bravery in unequivocally stating the case for Magyar human rights in the EU parliament put all other Hungarian MEPs to shame at a stroke. (What have the rest of them actually achieved while being there and earning such a handsome wage?)
And as for Vona, I’d count being bashed, gassed and manacled by the cops as being quite a conspicuous form of being “challenged in public,” wouldn’t you?
Everyone who has witnessed these events knows that these two have more personal courage in their little fingers than the rest of Hungarian politics put together.
But nevertheless, Viking never lets the facts get in the way of his burning desire to come out with this and similar nonsense.
He then actually goes on to call other people clowns into the bargain!
Viking, you are so full of it…
Why in your mind should have Vona not reject this dummy jew’s question about the only thing he/they’re interested in? Isn’t there more pressing issues in today’s Hungary? Like the millions out of work, unable to feed their families, deprived of their homes, forced to live in shantytowns, businesses failing by the thousands, the country becoming a thirld world dump.
Why would he not say to this idiot living off taxpayer money to mind the business of the country as lawfully required of someone drawing checks from the public’s coffer working for such entity? He had to ask about the holocaust myth.
Is it gonna feed the hungry? Is it relevant today?
It is relevant to him and his crooked gang only you dumbass.
You are so a resentable piece of crap man.
We all know that Nap Kelte TV = Communist propaganda TV!
He deserved everything he got and worse. I watched the interview and the asshole spent the whole time trying to find themes and questions to antagonise his guest, unfortunately he came off worse in the end!
Well fuck that communist lacky. TV journalist my ass!
He should move to Israel!
He won’t because only in such a “racist” country would he be able to live off the “fascist” Hungarians’ taxpayer money. In Israel, his jewish compatriots would screw him around so fast, he’d be potentially only blinking once.
Same in any Western other country. His ilk would be cleaning out their jewish desks so fast the lunch hour wouldn’t be up.
@beju: I agree with your comment at 10:55 PM about there being way more pressing issues in Hungary than debating the Jews, etc. So how about you set a good example, and not mention them for, say, the next week? Or if that’s not possible, how about 24 hours…
Quote on arrow-cross ideology:
the party’s ideology was somewhat similar to
Nazism[], though a more accurate comparison might be
drawn between Austrofascism and Hungarian fascism
which was called Hungarism by Ferenc Szálasi -
extreme nationalism, extreme Catholicism, the
promotion of agriculture, anti-capitalism, anti-
Communism, and militant anti-Semitism…..
where is Vona and his cronies different from this?
@Erik,
Now you have set the ultimate racist example on this forum.
You are trying to limit my God-given right to express my views regarding a specific species.
I don’t think your bias would stand a chance at any European court other than Germany or Austria, let alone the United States.
In fact you’d be paying me till the rest of my life after successful litigation. Now why would someone with your intelligence risk that? Only with an agenda right?
And Erik,
Nothing will change or save this country until the original sin, jewish influence, hoarding and parasite behavior cease. The reason I emphasize it left and right, because without addressing the perpetrators of our country’s demise still rule every and any decision-making position, or pay off some dumb idiot to do the dirty work for them.
If you haven’t noticed that within your walks you are an ostrich. I do not blame the jews for anything else but for what they are responsible for and accountable for in destroying my homeland. And I will stress it any and all forums who these people are and what their ultimate goal is. We Hungarians are dying fish able only to come up for a brief breath. If you deny that fact, you are one of them dear Erik, and I have nothing more to say to you!
Trashman, if that were the case, that is you not saying anything, this site would be better for it.
“beju,” thanks for proving my point about the mendacity of anti-Smeitism. It is evil to hate and you are full of hatred. You are a poster boy for racism.
You claim that Jews have been chased out of every nation. Yet, it is obvious to a school child that Jews have NOT been “chased out” of North America, South America, Scandinavia, Asia, etc. Check your facts, beju. You say “(the jews)are incapable of living in peace with any others since your type set foot on this planet.” Tell that to the billions of people around the world today (in the continents and nations above) who enjoy living with Jews and are grateful for Jewish contributions to their society. Youy are isolated in your misplaced anger.
Yes, anti-Semitism is endemic in parts of Europe. Generation after generation, many Europeans were taught to hate Jews, despite having no personal relationship with a Jew. This is pure, simple prejudice. How many Jews do you know on a personal level, beju?
I can only wonder what your history books teach about Jews and the Holocaust. It is wrong to blame Jews for “communism, 100 million deaths” and “mass murder.” You are filled with hate. I feel sorry for you.
It was a stupid question at the first place/from the reporter/ provocative & ugly ,/2009 hungarian politic is nothing to do with / holocaust or Rudof Hess/ so Vona’s answer was an honest critic.
@Charles Weinblatt
You’ve been taught all the history that the establishment has brainwashed so many people with, the Masons control your mind.
@ Samu
Is that you!! it’s me Zsuzsi if you are the one that I am thingking about!!
Good God – The Holocaust Denial has been an on-going topic for almost a year?
Interesting how Vona’s statement was interpreted because of who he is – (Vona said “if you are so interested in Jewish issues I suggest you move to Israel”.)
If it wasn’t from some racist jerk like Vona, it might be interpreted as good advise to the “Israeli obsessed” supposedly Magyar patriots
who should be focusing on their own country’s problems instead of the Middle East
BTW, absolutely nothing changed since August – it”s like a time warp – thankfully Pete H had some good news about BP today.
Take a look at a posting August 12, 2009 11.18 am
You are missing something in your life if in your frustration you dig up old threads just to make stupid comments.
Vona is not interested in the Jewish Holocaust because as a Hungarian he is interested in the Hungarian Holocaust. What do you know about the Hungarian Holocaust?
Betlen is a very slimy Jew and he used to attack every guest who expressed any interest in Hungarians’ welfare. He started kissing Fidesz-KDNP ass since they won the election but it will not help him keep his job.
Where does it say that M1 and M2 (Hungarian state TV stations) can have only Jews?
LHVJ and friends,
i am afraid your obsession with ” slimy” jews,
judaismn and /or israel is the only way you can think about “hungary” and if it is so that you
define your magyarismn thru the “jew” than
it is rather poor.
@ LHVJ
Re: “Vona is not interested in the Jewish Holocaust because as a Hungarian he is interested in the Hungarian Holocaust. What do you know about the Hungarian Holocaust?”
Well, all I read was his statement ” Vona said “if you are so interested in Jewish issues I suggest you move to Israel”.
No mention of any Holocaust as far as I can read but I think he is giving you a clear message. Take his suggestion, it’s a good one for a change
‘It is wrong to blame Jews for “communism, 100 million deaths” and “mass murder”.
Charles Weinblatt at August 19, 2009 10:25 PM
‘Wrong’? Why? It is true and incontrovertibly documented. You evil bastards did it then, and you are itching to do it it again. But your comeuppance is on the way … rapidly, I trust. We all despise you. It is only your international media ownership that is propping you up. We are onto you, and you had better scarper. To begin: leave Hungary: make alia. The sooner the better. You vicious scum. Palestine and friends are coming to get you.
@ Elle
How sad you are not listening to Vona’s words- read them and act on them.
You sound more demented and hysterical since you said your final good-bye.
Read the August 12th , 11 a.m. posting. It may help you to get a similar disability pension as Law – I understand the UK has excellent medical benefits. In the meantime, perhaps lowering your blood pressure might be the answer to confusion
BTW when you post “WE all despise you” – kindly define “we” – “we” as in the mentally unstable, “we” as in racist pigs, “we” as in
suffering from dementia and forgot “we” were not going to come back to this awful website?
WE should make it clear who “we ” are -please make sure I am excluded that includes “we” in your sentences. I though Law was sick.