"By medicinal treatment"???
For goodness sake, what century is it?

I can think of a medicinal treatment that would suit her...

And she is member of the 'HUMAN RIGHTS' commission? You'd think that anybody who is not utterly incompetent and inept would learn, simply by being in that commission, what is Politically Correct these days...And the medical treatment? Ha ha ha. Maybe we can also do something through medical treatment for correcting rroma skin colour, in Michael Jackson style...And de-circumcise Jews through surgery...The doctors in Hungary should start rolling up their sleeves.

Nice to see all you liberalist gay lovers coming out in support! For once an Hungarian politician dared to break the ranks of PC and speak the truth-Excellent,though of course her career will now be destroyed by the PC morons.

I do not see any Heterosexual Pride Marches being held!

Nothing against someone being gay, just do not see the need to bring the whole of Budapest to a stand still for the sake of a few poofs dancing down Andrassy Street!

Dear Fabian -
go f**k yourself you stupid, douche bag excuse for a human being.
love,
the rest of us.

What a bunch of low life Gays, who are the violent ones now? Your all sick in the haed and dangerous to societies development.

First, Budapest's local population in the baths are by far much gayer than anything I've ever experienced elsewhere. Now, obviously the irony of the Parliamentary Pina being on the Human Rights Committee deserves a giggle or two until we begin to recognize just how narrow-minded the local population has become lately. Sorry folks, but the idealization of Neo-Nazis clearly is a complex about your rather shit standing globally. I mean the EU won't even stand up for you against Slovakia, Romanians earn more, and most of the people capable of helping you are downright terrified by how ignorant you show yourselves to be. Shove a well-lubricated finger up your ass boys and you'll soon recognize that being gay is probably just more about enjoying yourself than being scared of what to do with a foreign looking object. There are more positions than missionary and doggy-style and sexual knowledge goes a long way in expanding your interests (and tolerance). Give it a poke, you know you want to! As studies have proven, homophobic men (like Fabian) are likely to possess larger erections than tolerant men- for gay porn. Your animosity titillates you and we all know this, so drop the pretense and insert a stick in your mouth (maybe you can meet a cop at the parade with a nice big baton!).

Welcome to reality, a place embracing tolerance, receiving international investment and attempting to improve everyone's lot. Just need to clean up this backwater mindset and we might even progress.

You can have your reality but it's not welcomed here in Hungary. Women are far more loving then you sick pricks that only think of peversion, you poofs are mentally ill, I'm sick to the teeth of your abuse of freedom.

oh BJ (what a conspicuous name!), your dick is in an uproar and is spitting mad. what is not welcomed in Hungary, and what gives you the right to say anything about this, considering the dissolution of the nation-state into a single republic? all EU citizens are equal here by law; the concept of a national identity is a tidbit archaic but then again, so are your reactionary ideas. man, think revolutionary thoughts- improve the place, contribute to it, but stop speaking about your insecurities. why should a couple of gays intimidate you so much? ever got drunk one night and a buddy put it in you? we could all collaborate and improve this state, or you could isolate yourself, squeeze into your panel building and cry into your mom's bosom "it's not fair, it's not fair." begin to open your head, quit bitching, and recognize that the foreigners contribute much more per capita to this country than you ever will. the gay dollars and euros brought here by Pride allow you homophobic individuals to work, to live, and to see improvements here. there's no reason to hide from reality, it'll come regardless. the point is, we may as well benefit from everything, even if we don't like. sip your beer, turn your head, but chill out. "they" won't bite, so you can stop being scared and just enjoy the world (for everything it is, not how you want it to be- because honestly, a nation of people like yourselves will only become an inbred asshole of Central Europe, relegated to remembering history)

dude-you are one sick yank-go back to your gay love lifestyle,but stop trying to tell us how 'normal' it is and how we should embrace it like you sad fools.
www.henrymakow.com and read up on how YOU have been used and abused for years.

Wasn't Freddie Mercury (Queen band) homosexual ?
He gave a huge rock-concert in Budapest in the mid
80s, and everybody was loving him back then.
What happened in the mean time ?

Poof Bash!

This current flare up of Neanderthal, backward-thinking idiocy in
Hungary might not be the last word, but at least for the
foreseeable future it's hard to imagine why any decent European or
American would want to bring his money to Budapest. Why?

Budapestvet

You are 100% right, these poofters are damaging the Hungarian tourist trade!

As I say, I have nothing against chutney ferrets as long as they keep their unnatural acts to within the confines of their own homes!

So many of you people have sold out to the PC brigade, in reality 95% of the population have the same feelings.... maybe you can not help being a poofter and most people will make allowances, but we do not want nancy boy parades in our streets in front of our kids!

John Simpson--"Chutney ferrets" LOL,we used to call them shit stabbers. Well said mate

John Simpson - it is too hard for me to explain how sad it was for me to learn that you have children. With your guidance they will be the next generation of homophobic bigots. One more generation lost to the looney right. Happy Pride Everybody.

Rendör,

"we used to call them shit stabbers"

You did. I thought you were Hungarian, what's the Hungarian for "shit stabber"?

@Daisybird

I am not embarrassed and you should not be sad at all and I will not teach my children to hate anybody, especially poofs, dykes and trannies, just the same way I am not going to spend my time educating them that homosexuality is normal!

If you are gay then fine with me. Just do not understand the need to prance around in your hundreds highlighting the fact. If you want to fit in, why not just live a normal life?

Do not see many hetero parades in Budapest!

These parades just cause more hate and problems than they are worth!

Hungary won't start down the road to failed-state status because it
protects its various minorities. Rather it will set itself on the path to
failed-state status by fostering intolerance and human rights
violations.

Surely if a policeman beats up somebody the question should not be whether the person was gay or Jewish?

Surely human rights are for humans or are we now developing a subclass of the species?

I think that if people Just lived their lives as normal, homophobia would be a thing of the past in a short time.

Just like the Jews keep alive the holocaust for their own commercial reasons, there seems to be a movement in the gay community that wants to shout and scream from the rooftops that they are homo?

Don't understand it, most people would not think twice about it and would accept the fact.

Just seems they can not help themselves but take to the streets shouting that they are homo's..

What is the point?

One of the basic laws is that when you find yourself in a hole, stop
digging. What are the indicators of a failed state? Economic
decline, chronic emigration, uneven development, group
vengeance, violation of human rights. Hungary might not be
Somalia, but it's not Norway, either. Fidesz is making a reckless
and short-sighted choice in aligning itself with the worst elements
of Hungarian life. Hungary has real work to do, but Fidesz seems
only capable of stirring up the worst people. Later when they're in
power, and the lower element sees that the economy hasn't
magically improved, Fidesz might regret having roused them.
Hungary needs wise adults to lead it. Instead Fidesz only seems
able only to give shovels to uneducated children. When you're in a
hole, stop digging.

fUNNY! 2 Homphobes congratulating each other on how what stupid names they can think of for gays. I suppose when they were at school they used the same names and i presume they call themselves adults now. The old saying goes that if a man thinks the same way he did at 20 as at 50 then hes wasted his life. Im not saying you two have wasted your lives but you need to grow up a little. You say you have nothing against gays then why use the language of some screwed up teenager. Just because you disagree with something you think it should be pilloried and banned.I would like to think you could give an intelligent and thoughful response but you wouldnt know a gay guy if he was sitting on your.... and his name was graham norton.lol

Piss off you pillow bitter

Are you an unemployed homophobe who sits on his arse all day waiting for someone to make an intelligent comment like a fisherman waiting for a bite!If your The Man Go find a girl friend and do something of interest like pillow biting ... more like The Twat. LOL . ps at least learn how to spell your homphobic comments.Doh

You can always rely on Fidesz to behave with a lack of responsibility. They are to be the next government & you would have thought they would now cease their irresponsible populism & try to reconcile different groups & to protect the rights of minorities. No such luck.

In the past their populism stirred up anti Jew & anti gypsy action carried forward by Jobbik & now disclaimed by them. Now up pops Ilona Ekes with Fidesz backed homophobia. This is very dangerous & totally unnecessary.

When can we have a responsible right of centre party to vote for & maybe even join. We are left to choose between socialists & illiberal populists.

How long has John Simpson been out of the UK? "Poofters", "nancy boys" - how quaint, nobody now uses these words much in public.

John, you give yourself away as a completely delusional homophobe and anti-Semite. How many million Jews must die before they are allowed to remember their dead whenever and however they wish?

Homosexuals in Hungary do not have the rights we enjoy in the UK therefore they must raise the profile of their concerns by marching, despite the threat of violence. It's called the "struggle for liberation" John. Your ignorance of what it means to be in an oppressed minority is depressing.

Try looking back to the UK where gay pride parades are held in many many towns and cities and bring in tourists and trade to the point that councils now even try to attract gays. 500,000 people attended London parade, many just tourists and friends and families enjoying the spectacle. This is how it should be in Budapest.

PaulMcNancy. Very good of you to advertise on
behalf of Gayboys anonymous.
Pink Poofters are an abomination. Their parades
likewise.
Try to dress up arse-banging in any langauage
or costume of your choice. It amounts to the same thing:arse banging= buggery. It was a sin and against the law at one time...

@HP - never thought you'd use the name 'Butch' in a post. Suits you though.

quote Daisy bird
John Simpson - it is too hard for me to explain how sad it was for me to learn that you have children. With your guidance they will be the next generation of homophobic bigots. One more generation lost to the looney right. Happy Pride Everybody.
Daisy Bird at August 31, 2009 10:49 PM

What is sad Daisy Bird is that without the likes of 'homophobic bigots' like John Simpson there will be no future generations to call you names.Homosexual relationships(as well as lesbian) do not bode well for the future of the human race.How do you propose(within 'natural' concepts)to populate the world?Who is the future?You and your homosexual self indulgent life stylers or the 'bigots' like Simpson and his offspring?

Pink Poofters are an abomination. Their parades
likewise.
Try to dress up arse-banging in any langauage
or costume of your choice. It amounts to the same thing:arse banging= buggery. It was a sin and against the law at one time...
And do take note, for all this is coming from BUTCH Cassidy.

@Paul Mc
"How long has John Simpson been out of the UK"

Paul Mc!The UK is beyond redemption.What one can or cannot do in the UK is irrelevant to what one can or cannot do in Hungary.To compare like with unlike has no argumentative merit.The UK is beyond the pale when it comes to political correctness and liberal attitudes.

I hope readers don't take this the wrong way but I think that the nations that suffered the yokes of Soviet and communist oppression like Hungary were in part shielded from many vices and the corrupt and contemptible life that is now commonly referred to as 'the West'.Decadence in all it's glory and so did mighty Rome fall and implode.Liberalism will be the death of Europe as we know or knew it.

joska-.O.k. So you admit that you live in a country that has Victorian attitudes as to how we all behave.Most gay sexual acts are conducted behind closed doors and just one day every year a Pride Parade is held.One day.Hungary has a festival every weekend all around the countryside for every type of vegetable{you}and every type of fruit{me} grown in the country.But you would deny us a Parade whereby we can show how proud we are to be gay. For a country of animal f---ers that is obscene to me.You f--- your sheep but so long as it was not "traumatized" then it is okay and legal.
As for your theory that Hungary will has a falling population due to gays and lesbians not having babies!Well, fact is that Hungary already has more deaths than births and it is most likely because of the straight blokes in Hungary spending most of their time on sun-beds, taking steroids and pumping up those muscles than they do in the bedroom.Also,steroidal abuse-small balls syndrome-does not help.
The straight men of Hungary could also have more bedtime baby making if they were not busy shaving their armpits or out buying Louis Vuitton Manbags like your National hero Talmaci.
The breeders in Hungary are so useless already that your idea about us all going straight and making babies echo's Ilona Ekes statement about "homosexuals should be converted into heterosexuals by medicinal treatment" and that puts you'joska'and your tiny brain all the way back into the Dark Ages as far as education is concerned.

The inanity of some of these comments surely must be a joke--no
serious person in 2009 could believe it. Sure--it's the gays who
are ruining Hungary. It wasn't the Christofascists of 1914 and 1939
who did the damage; no, it's the gays' fault. Please! Fidesz cannot
take power soon enough! Of course they won't be able to perform
any economic miracles, and the toothless country folk who are
being roused by the hate mongering will then turn to their cynical
masters and ask, "Now what?" In the meantime, Hungary will have
alienated not only Slovakia, but Europe as well. I guess there's
always Belgrade. That's it! A new toothless, dumbass, backward
empire of hate where no reasonable person would want to come or
invest his money. Congratulations Fidesz! Pure genius.

Part one

@Daisy bird quote

"O.k. So you admit that you live in a country that has Victorian attitudes as to how we all behave"

I said nothing of the sort DB.That is merely your inference.Keep it straight and don't make up what has not been said.

quote DB"Most gay sexual acts are conducted behind closed doors and just one day every year a Pride Parade is held.One day."

And so it should be,behind closed doors.In a democratic state/nation the will of the majority prevails.You by your own admission are a 'minority'.Respect the will of the majority.There are no medals for heroes and martyrs anymore.Why do you feel the need to impose your minority way of life onto those that do not want to see it?Why do insist in ramming down the throats of people who may or may not be of a conservative nature, your 'ideal' lifestyle and way of life.Your insistence borders on arrogance.

quote DB "But you would deny us a Parade whereby we can show how proud we are to be gay"

IMHO it is not so much about you being proud of anything other than your insistence in ramming your 'pride',arrogance and insensitivity down other peoples throats.The more that is forced upon a people without consent,the more resentment,whatever the 'cause'.You are nothing special!

quote DB. "For a country of animal f---ers that is obscene to me.You f--- your sheep but so long as it was not "traumatized" then it is okay and legal."

The above doesn't warrant any comment.Verbal foot stomping at best.

Part Two

@Daisy Bird

quote"As for your theory that Hungary will has a falling population due to gays and lesbians not having babies!"

That is not a theory DB but a fact of life and nature.

quote DB "Well, fact is that Hungary already has more deaths than births and it is most likely because of the straight blokes in Hungary spending most of their time.....etc etc"

The above diatribe does not dismiss the fact that homosexual and lesbian couples by their very nature can never ever naturally reproduce.Slagging off heterosexual Hungarians is testimony that being a bitch is not restricted to the realms of the female.

Quote DB"The breeders in Hungary are so useless already that your idea about us all going straight"

I said nothing about you going 'straight'.You can do what the hell you want.I st5ate that you should abide by the will of the majority.

Quote DB"and making babies echo's Ilona Ekes statement about "homosexuals should be converted into heterosexuals by medicinal treatment" and that puts you'joska'and your tiny brain all the way back into the Dark Ages as far as education is concerned."

I state a medical and natural fact!Homosexual and lesbian couples cannot nor will ever reproduce naturally!What Ilona Ekes says and what I say are two different things.I'm not asking you to convert to anything.Children are the future.They are not fashion accessories for gays and lesbians as some would want it to be.There is a price for your 'pride'.Live with it!

In a democratic state/nation the will of the majority prevails
joska at September 1, 2009 11:26 PM
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In a Democracy there are 2 fundamental rights you are missing:
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1) Any Minority's right to exist and express themselves in their 'language', even if you do not like it.
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2) 'Free Speech', which is the right to express your opinions about everything basically.
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So, joska, why should only your opinion count?
Does not everyone have the right to an opinion and try to convince others to follow them?
Maybe you want to forbid Hess-marches also?

joska- I do not know what country you are from but if you are Hungarian or from one of the other new democratic countries of this region then it shows your lack of knowledge of what a democracy is or how it works. For some reason you think that 95% of voters voted MSP into government. Also that they were all straight. In your world, all minorities have to accept whatever the majority command. I am sorry to have to tell you but you do not belong to any democracy you live in a different world. As for f---ing sheep. In fact, it was a goat. Big news story 2 years back. Neighbour filmed a teenager f---ing a kid- whoops - i mean ramming(sic) a goat. No prosecution because the goat did not appear to be " traumatised ". Sad, but true. You must be very proud of yourself, The most famous quote from Ian Paisley was about he did not want homosexuality rammed down his throat. Congratulations, you are in the company of the world's biggest and most famous bigot. Your so called fact is also wrong. Many gay people are married and have children in Hungary. I have many gay friends who married and had children because that was considered the norm. But that happened years ago in Ireland mainly because of the Catholic church. In Hungary, gay people marry out of fear of people like you and not the church. But, similar problem. Your contempt for minority groups is a very scary thing for any member of a minority group. I have a gay friend that fathered his lesbian sisters partners child naturally. So that puts paid to your fact theory.

i like Lesbos, but only to watch and go for it after.

Whoever thinks that the gay parade march has anything to do with highlighting the plight of downtrodden Hungarian gays need their heads looking at!

This is just of bunch of people dressing up and in many cases down and prancing down the main streets of Budapest. I think Hungary is very tolerant in reality and when things are not pushed down peoples throats they do not become issues.

Budapest has held the love parade several times which teams with all sexual stereotypes without any problems!

Many of the attendees at the gay pride march will be from out of town, from other nations.... just a reason to get dressed up in pink!

Gays are not attacked in the streets and violence against them is very rare. People are tolerant, just do not want the Nancy boy elements forcing what is believed to be anti moral gathering on the streets of the capital.

Like it or not, that is the feeling of the majority, if they speak out or not!

Well said JS. I wouldn't want a straight parade marching down the street either. Let be fair, Pride parades have as much to do with pride as Carnival in Rio has to do with Easter.

A word of truthful clarification for any unsuspecting novice who
might be mislead by the outright lies being spread here: before the
organized Nazi attacks on the gay festival in 2007 and 2008, the
Budapest event was utterly quiet and even boring. The individual
citizens who walked in the parade were dressed in normal street
clothes (not Vac-Street whore street clothes, but rather regular day
clothes). We walked down Andrássy in a cheerful manner, and
many residents of that street leant out their windows and gave
friendly waves. The commercial interests who sponsored large
trucks to advertise their businesses were no more representative of
the regular gays walking on the street as the Hungarian girls who
trade sex for money in District V are representative of all
Hungarian girls.

budapestvet - I have no issue with that. Sorry, but I am much too used to the US version which gay or straight wouldn't want to take children by. That being said, whether I like it or not, if they pursue proper channels to march, they shouldn't be egged or have anything thrown at them other than insults which come with free speech.

Like it or not, that is the feeling of the majority, if they speak out or not!
John Simpson at September 2, 2009 12:47 PM
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So then banning the Hess-marches is OK, then?
That is also "the feeling of the majority, if they speak out or not!"

@Viking
"Does not everyone have the right to an opinion
and try to convince others to follow them?"
Exactly. Interestingly, the Hungarian regime
banned some people who wanted to commemorate
Rudolf Hess's birthday. Is this a democracy then
or what? Or is it just the democracy only for a
few? What about the communists who can openly
celebrate at the Freedom Square by the shameful
Soviet war memorial that should have been removed
a long time ago? Why is the double standard?
In my opinion, neither the nazis, nor the
communists should have the right to commemorate or
celebrate in any way. What do they want to
celebrate? Killing over 200 million people?
As far as gays: in my opinion, there is nothing to
celebrate about that (just like I do not want to
publicly display how I want to make love). Sexual
orientation belongs to the privacy of the bedroom.
But since we are in a democracy and if gays want
to have a party, by all means, let them have it on
some side streets. They should not have the right
to bring the capital to a standstill for several
hours and the taxpayers should not have to pay for
securing their party. Interestingly, in some other
places, there is no uproar when a chief rabbi does
not want the parade in a certain city:
http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=6616
Obviously, the Hungarian regime is using the gay
issue to incite controversy that takes the
attention away from the miserable state the
Hungarian economy is in right now. This regime
really need to go.

@Viking Mr Assumption!
The locals taught me!! the rest of your comments are absurd, not even worth replying to.

What about the communists who can openly
celebrate at the Freedom Square by the shameful
Soviet war memorial that should have been removed
a long time ago?
...
Sexual orientation belongs to the privacy of the bedroom.
...
They should not have the right
to bring the capital to a standstill for several
hours and the taxpayers should not have to pay for
securing their party.
Roamerw1972 at September 3, 2009 9:24 AM
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Well, Russia and Mr. Put In (Jobbbik's best friend) own that WWII-memorial now, so you can forget about doing anything with it.
Soon we will see Magyar Garda defending it.
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So gays and others, who you do not like, cannot use the main street, but it is OK with the people you like?
And the people you like, you have no problems that the tax payers pick up the bill?
And no double standards there, no.

@Viking
The Soviet regime has collapsed , or have you not stepped out of your boxed in reality.
http://jobbik.com/temp/Bethlen.pdf

Check for your lazy self instead of assuming and spreading lies.
Under the heading "Our past is our of Spring"
This is a summary of the Jobbiks program in English. And mentions the Soviet memorial relocation.
Also an interesting site i stumbled across in english, see we Hungarians are awakening.
http://www.hungarianambiance.com/

The Soviet regime has collapsed , or have you not stepped out of your boxed in reality.
Law at September 3, 2009 11:29 AM
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Russia is the legal part to most Soviet WWII war memorials, as the one in Budapest.
And Hungary has a bilateral agreement with Russia on this and other memorials in Russia and Hungary, therefore relocating any memorial without the explicit approval of the other party would be a breach of that agreement.
Given the fact that Jobbik see Russia as the big friend and partner to Europe, especially the Eastern part, opposing any enlargement of NATO and see Russia as good trade partner, we can all safely *assume* that any Jobbik Government would not do such a stupid thing as re-locate any war memorial.
Roubles smells better than the smell of a pyrrhic victory of moving a memorial, believe *that* is politics in Government.

I am sure bestiality and buggery are befellows.
(Excuse the pun!)
Rear-end ramming by the Bulgars, Welsh, French,
Turks, is commonplace among their men-folk even
though they are not strictly-speaking -gay!
Sheep, goats, cows,pigs,donkeys, are all conidered
fair game by the above mentioned.
On a lonely, wet, September evening when the
women have gone on their annual pilgrimage, or whatever..what's a guy to do?
The freaks on nature known as gays, fairies, poofters, buttbangers, fags, turd burglars, etc
seek to indulge their fantasies only with those sexual partners who are of a like mind.
Buggery is still an abomination and dressing in pink and exposing your arse in Gay parades does nothing to change this fact.

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