Well this is not in the least bit surprising, however the timing is certainly singular so there are two observations to be made here.

1st) Given the background of the Helsinki Committees the liberal left has basically turned full circle, this sentence in particular:
"The Helsinki Committee added that the court ban creates a new situation: the Hungarian Guard cannot pursue any activities, even if those activities in themselves are not illegal, the document added." Is nothing short of a green light for authoritarianism. Nice.

2nd) With respect to the timing of this , Jobbik are developing a really keen information network. These two articles were written by them last week. First, on plans by the police to dish out a bashing this Friday.
Morvai warns EP of imminent repeat of mass police brutalities.
http://www.jobbik.com/europe-news/3117.html
Hence my saying, far from co-incidental timing by the Helsinki Committee.
Second, on the motives for and the gradual creep of MTI from the MSZP to Fidesz. As evidences by their articles today alone.
MTI’s “impartiality” warrants official enquiry
http://www.jobbik.com/hungary-news/3121.html

So it certainly looks like baton/teargas fun and games are planned by the government for tomorrow.

Dijon vu - the same mustard as before

Hi Bobscountybunker
Yes! I thought this would be the case, that's why I wasn't sure what attire to wear, either full three piece suit and overcoat or my jeans and bomber jacket, I’m still contemplating.

Meanwhile, just for the record, article VII of the Helsinki Accord, upon which the whole thing is based, calls for "Respect for human rights and fundamental freedoms, including the freedom of thought, conscience, religion or belief." I have a hard time believing that the local chapter is so keen on this...

Just 5 words:

THE HELSINKI COMMITTEE IS ILLEGAL....

Just another globalist organization trying to crush the democratic right of a national organization...

Oh Candi,
Come on, if you are going to make such a strong statement, everyone can tell because you are using caps, try to back it up with a reason or facts otherwise you continue to look like a moron.

@ C'est Moi;
I hope your not refering to me because I am not Gandi character.

So it certainly looks like baton/teargas fun and games are planned by the government for tomorrow.
bobscountrybunker at October 22, 2009 2:07 PM
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Obviously not.

Never mind the rights of the Hungarian Guard. There are more important rights to preserve in Hungary. Such as the right of stealing from thy neighbor, terrorizing the village while posing as victims.

What gives the right to Hungarians to try living in peace and hang onto what's left of the country?

Gypsies, jews (Israeli investors) and homosexuals are the future, the Hungrian sheep are tolerated only to feed these parasites. Any attempt at self defense would be illegal.

Are did you see the Police presence at the Jobbik commemorations? Thousands of riot police in the side streets, video surveillance, Helicopter hovering, Kossuth ter the peoples right to access on a day of 1956 barricaded by the Neo liberal corrupt liars. This is an Orwellian country we are living in.. The only reason they didn't attack because the amount of foreign press and media, this is why Morvai Krisztinia raised the awareness of this at EU parliament that the current party was planning to attack demonstrators. Thank god for her fore sight that the event’s were not violent.

Law:I did see the rows of police present at the Jobbik commemorations.It made the news here.Sadly though while the report talked about a 'far right party that has been growing in popularity' it didn't actually talk about the real significance of the day beyond being 'the anniversary of the Hungarian Revolution'.I was quite disappointed with our lack of media interest and am thinking about writing to the government broadcaster. (commercial tv news is a complete waste of time)
On a more personal note, when I was working for the Rendorseg, I was very vocal about the counterproductive nature of using violence in dealing with protests.Unsurprisingly it didn't wash well with the leadership, but whenever I had the chance I really worked hard to challenge the individual students about it.I said things like "The next time you raise your baton, ask yourself, is this my brother/sister?Who's son/daughter am I about to inflict pain on? Who am I serving and protecting?" I would like to hope that something got through...many of those very students will be in those same lines of police.

Kossuth ter the peoples right to access on a day of 1956 barricaded by the Neo liberal corrupt liars
Law at October 24, 2009 11:20 AM
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Are you meaning that a State Event should always be open for anyone just to barge in and take over the microphone?
In which country do you see this happening?
How far do you think you would come any National Leader in any country in today's world.
Should people, who are against Jobbik and Vona and Morvai, be allowed to disturb their speeches or even steel the microphone from them?
Fair should be fair, right?

@Viking'
Jobbik events have always been disturbed, by the state!!!!!

Jobbik events have always been disturbed, by the state!!!!!
Law at October 25, 2009 2:18 AM
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Give us an example, please.

@Viking
Google it you lazy prick.. You have no desire to discover the real truth just target Hungarians as radical, you are part of the problem in Hungary and we require a cure from parasites like you.

So you do not want to mention that the only one 'having a problem' with the Police are Budahazy and the 'Debrecen Nazis' (accused of killing a number of Roma).
These are the people that any country would label 'terrorists' which Jobbik labels 'political prisoners'.
Of course they are 'political prisoners' as much as the Bader-Meinhof and Rote Arme Fraction (RAF) were 'political prisoners' in Germany and Italy.
An extreme small number of people would agree with your definition on 'political prisoners', except for you, ricsi, vona and morvai.

@Viking
All lies by the communist regime in Hungary

http://vimeo.com/7235676

http://vimeo.com/7235512

All lies by the communist regime in Hungary
Law at October 25, 2009 9:22 AM
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I think you do the Veterans of -56 a great disservice by comparing the current, by all standards, legally and fairly elected Government with the regime 1947-1989.
And you exaggerate your and your follower's influence on current politics and the future of Hungary.
We should not forget that the Hungarian people voted in the first MDF Government in 1990 and Fidesz-MIEP in 1998, but that would you of course not see as any break from the 'Communist Regime from 1947'.
And where did a 'Communist Regime' come to power through General Elections that were declared fair and honest by the International Society?
And where in the world would parties as Jobbik, who any real 'Communist' would regard as 'contra-revolutionary' be able to participate in open and fair elections, like the 2006 National and Local Elections and the European Parliament Election in June 2009?

@VikingSo the innocent Hungarians people being jailed? police brutalities of 2006 right up unto today? These events plainly highlight who the governing party is!!! The Establishment of Social Liberal thieves, and only through clever people amongst the Jobbik party have they been able to chip away and expand the party, the Neo Liberals have become so complacent they never assumed that Jobbik could become a force, they thought that they had their fingers on the button and could create the same scenario as many places in the west where the media control the people, but this trickery here was exposed.
Hungarians didn’t fall for the bait after the event’s of 2006 they awoke even more, and out of the circumstances the people kept there wits about them and revealed that the governing party has an agenda, to steal the country from underneath the feet of everyday Hungarians, turn them into slaves of the Establishment. And this is why the Hungarians support the Jobbik party. Don’t assume Jobbik had a easy path to where they are today, the Social Liberal Commies thought that their old way of manipulating was full proof but no! The truth has beaten them, now they are trying all the dirtiest tricks in the book by jailing patriots and accusing them on terrorist charges that have been fabricated by these wolves in sheep’s clothing. No Red Viking don’t try and dilute the situation, this is out right awakening against the Establishment thieves that are chipping away at Hungarians.

Law obviously got tired of his alias, just check the tirades about the "awakening", sooo religious.
Anyway, 2 things changed in 2006:
1) The Police realised that they need to buy better riot protection gear and train crowd control in a more Western European way.
200 Officers wounded after 3 days riots in Budapest in September was not a good outcome.

2) The current MSZP leadership became basically unelectable and that party need some real changes to come back as a major player in the Parliament.
Now this did not happen before the 2010 Elections, so they will have ample time to do that before the 2014 Elections.
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In all other perspectives it just strengthen Viktor Orban's and Fidesz' poistions as the next leaders of Hungary. In that Hungary Jobbik and its ilk will have as much to say as Csurka and MIEP had in the previous Fidesz Parliament (1998-2002).
Jobbik's only chance to have any influence in the next Parliament will be to very hard attack Viktor Orban and Fidesz before the 2010 Election, but then they also risk that the MSZP come back the back-way.
So, only a loose-loose situation for Jobbik and its ilk.

I would cry one big salty tear if this were to happen. Sniff, sniff