So they want to stir trouble again, commemorating the 91st anniversary - what's so special a bout the number 91 ? Is this a secret code ?

Or are they just crazy as hell ?

Always thinking of the glorious past...

I am a bit confused about the date here, 1918 or 1919. What I can find is:
The "Székely Hadosztály" (Sekler Regiment) was formed by Col. Károly Kratochwill on January 20, 1919, with former Hungarian & Székely soldiers from Transylvaia, to fight the Rumanian troops advancing into Western Transylvania.
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As such it was then part of the Kun Bela regime, the Hungarian Soviet Republic or Soviet Republic of Hungary.
Interesting that Jobbik/MG is interesting celebrating a military division belonging to the so hated communists.
Maybe they will soon see Horthy as the Romanian puppet he was?

What is the catch here is that 1st of December is the National Day of Romania (celebrating no other than the unification of Transylvania with the rest of Romania), so obviously there are meetings and demonstrations scheduled by then by the Romanian authorities. Add to this the fact that on 4th of December there will be the second round of Presidential elections, and you get to the conclusion that the Magyar Garda is purposefully looking for trouble (as if it this would be a surprise)

Ah, that would explain it.
The road is everything, the goal is nothing.
And the road is to stir up trouble, for whatever reason, even if it means to celebrate a Communist Division.
On the other hand, the Székely Regiment's cooperation with the Kun Bela regime was done in a national perspective, where the goal was all and the road not so important. This seems to be the difference between a fake 'Nationalist' and a real 'Patriot'.
As I understand Kratochwill (leader of the Székely Regiment) is obviously not an Hungarian name. It is a German variant of a Slovak/Slav name, so they were every were.

Could it be that they just fancy holding an even in a country that doesn't arrest people for what they wear?
Or after all the thoroughly crazy scenarios expressed above, is my one just too out there?

HITLER calling HORTHY

HORTHY’s secretary: HITLER is on the line
HORTHY: I do not want to talk to that crazy German, tell him I am not in
HORTHY’s secretary: He has been calling all day and he says that he knows you are in
HORTHY: Ok, pit him through
HITLER: Hey HORTHY, I want your Jews
HORTHY: No way Jose, leave my Jews alone
HITLER: I have to have them sob Bolshevik Jews because they murdered million for Stalin and if I do not get them, they will torture and murder your people also
HORTHY: Adolph, you are a lying sob, I do not believe a word of it
HITLER: You better let me have your Jews because I have wolfie sr., all dressed up in his shiny SS uniform and just dying to go over there and get those Jews.
HORTHY: Tell wolfie’s daddy that he better stay there and leave my Jews alone
HITLER: You will be sorry because their leaders are getting ready in Stalin’s workers’ paradise and they will set up death camps, torture and murder the best of your people. They got Rakosi, Gero, Farkas, Bauer, Apro and the rest of Stalin’s Jews to do the job but they cannot do that without the Jews you have in Hungary. Let me take them off your hand.
HORTHY: Keep on lying Adolph; I know that our Jews would not turn on our people. We always protected them and even took in a bunch of Polish Jews escaping from you.
HITLER: They do not care if you protect them. They will do a job on you even if you protect them. They are sadistic bastards and they will torture your people just for the fun of it. They like to pull fingernails and pour vinegar over the wounds. They are like that.
HORTHY: Stop lying HITLER, go to hell and take your SS goon, wolfie sr. with you

The rest is history:
http://www.magyarhirlap.hu/hatter/a_kormos_bauer_pofonokkal_fokozta_a_kint.html

@Bernie- Why don't you have your people get in touch with my people, and we'll do lunch sometime!

Can you get a pass for Bernie?

Status Federal inmate #61727-054, scheduled date of release: 11-14-2139; at Butner Federal Correctional Institution.

No such luck, Bernie. You do the crime, you do the time. I'll just hang around till then.

Could it be that they just fancy holding an even in a country that doesn't arrest people for what they wear?
Bobscountrybunker at November 25, 2009 3:04 PM
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The question of it should be allowed to walk around in a 'uniform dress that cannot be mistaken for its intent' is hardly a question of fashion.
You, who normally scream your lungs off with 'false choice' or 'wrong question', how would you rank your own?

It was a very simple question. Yours was a very simple evasion of that question. Aren't you bored of them? I know we all are.
There was no screaming involved, this is not the first time you have used this verb. It seems that anyone who disagrees with your snide hot air is, by definition, screaming. What a dull mediocre fellow you really are.

It might be interestig to see how Romanian authorities react to a show of black clad Hungarians coming into the country...

Even with Schengen there is the possibility of border controld - did not something strange happen to Hungary's president when he decided to come to Slovakia without an invitation by the government ?

PS: What about the last show where the men in black went into that Roma village ?

@wolfi
"It might be interestig to see how Romanian authorities react to a show of black clad Hungarians coming into the country..."
Well if you knew anything about the Ceauşescu era, you'd understand that Romanians on the whole tend to be against Hungarians dressing like Hungarians. Those terrifying black waistcoats, and the chance of a deadly Csárdás breaking out at any moment.

"PS: What about the last show where the men in black went into that Roma village?"
...and got a good axing for their trouble you mean? Well then surely you should be completely in favour of the idea.

It was a very simple question. Yours was a very simple evasion of that question
Bobscountrybunker at November 25, 2009 9:54 PM
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So you really mean that the reason why the Police arrested 14 (or whatever number) the other day on the Horthy remembrance Parade was a question of fashion?
It has nothing to do with what that 'fashion' stands for?
The word 'uniform' has suddenly got a new meaning?
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Are these questions simple enough, or will you answer, as you have done several times "False question" for 5 rows all in bold?
That is of course not 'screaming', just being 'civilized' as only you can?

On the question of Transsylvania being Hungarian and how to get it back there is a really interesting thread here:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/romania/TRP08P556N6LVO9BE/p18
Some of the people there screaming from afar (addresses range from the USA to Australia) remind me of our late contributor of sillyness PanamaJackass (the guy of many names - may he rest in peace!).

It really is strange how mauch time some people invest in crazy endavours, trying to prove or disprove completely irrelevant things that might have happened a hundred or even a thousand years ago - instead of thinking about today and the future...

From MTI:
Police remove municipal deputy wearing banned guard uniform
11/26 14:00
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I assume we will have another tirade from our Fashion-commentator about "a country that doesn't arrest people for what they wear?"

@Viking
Do you actually have a point to make? Or are you just prowling from blog to blog snarling snide comments out of the corner of your mouth?

FACT: You dismissed out of hand, and as nonsensical, my idea that the Guard was holding an event in Romania because it is a country that doesn't arrest people for what they wear. Absurd! You said. Much more to it than that. You said. The ramblings of a misguided "fashion correspondent."

And THEN what do? You quote: "From MTI:
Police remove municipal deputy wearing banned guard uniform." As if it made your point and not mine??!!??

You have proven exactly what I asserted.

This man's charge sheet from the police will read that he was taken into custody for wearing a particular type of clothing. Nothing more nothing less. Exactly what I had originally said.
Sheesh! Do you actually ever READ the stuff you write before you press the "Submit" button?

@ Bob

Do you really think that wearing black shirts is a "fashion statement" or simply nostalgia for Mussolini's Blackshirt?

It's pretty clear that it's a political statement and not a fashion statement.

BTW, for everyone who supports JOBBIK : Please start a letter writing campaign to Vona and Morvai
to stop having the Magyar Garda around for photo-ops. They look like a bunch of low life criminals (I bet must of them have records)

I read that JOBBIK is trying to get support from the main stream population - I think there is a problem with their image for that agenda.

It's like having President Obama being associated with gangsta rappers

@ olga
"Do you really think that wearing black shirts is a "fashion statement" or simply nostalgia for Mussolini's Blackshirt? It's pretty clear that it's a political statement and not a fashion statement."
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You must forgive me, but this really is hilarious, but an eye opener too: What I really think is that what kind of statement is being made here is irrelevant. Or rather it is relevant, but not for the reasons people think. I take it that you would not object to a "fashion statement" being made, but object to the "political statement" being made. Is that so? This is clearly what the Liberals and the Leftists here think. But actually think about it...

Why is it that the authorities are arresting people for the fashion statement? And you can't say, they aren't really, it is precisely this - FOR WHAT THEY ARE WEARING - that will be on people's records, so yes, legally, they ARE. So people's civil liberties ARE deliberately being abused.

So hmmm... Why aren’t they arresting them (or saying they are) for their political statements? Because much though they'd like to arrest people for their political statements. *cough* You kind of can't oppress people for making political statements in a free democracy. There are certain human rights declarations that would take more than a little issue with that...

So simply, the one is being used to accomplish another.

@Viking
Do you actually have a point to make? Or are you just prowling from blog to blog snarling snide comments out of the corner of your mouth?
Bobscountrybunker at November 26, 2009 3:19 PM
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The point can be seen in the following photos (7-10/10):
http://galeria.index.hu/belfold/2009/11/22/a_gardat_levagtak_a_feher_lovas_horthyemlekezesrol/?current_image_num=7&image_size=ml
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What is 'Hungarian' with this 'fashion'?
It does not make a statement?
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In difference to you I use the same handle everywhere, so you do not miss it is me.
Obviously you seem to be at the same blogs (but under other names) so what is the problem TanarUr?

É Voilà!
Another person arrested for what they are wearing. A Jobbik councillor for Budapest's VI. district, chose to wear a white shirt and the Gárda's black waistcoat.

I would urge the high-and-mighty Liberal cheerleaders of totalitarianism to take a good look at the fearsome (scrawny) figure that Mr Gyenge cuts in the council chamber in this video. @1:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSpsIIeTtjc

You may then go on to see how the MSZP members and the MSZP Mayor of the council then go on to orchestrate the arrest and removal by the police @4:25 on, of this democratically elected people's representative. Any prospect of a Sajóbábony "riot" visible? Hell no. That's not, and NEVER was, the purpose of these measures, wise up you dumbasses.

This is simply the beginning of an orchestrated campaign to weaken Jobbik before the elections: as I had predicted would happen months ago. IF you believe the polls, which people here do, the MSZP are in a life and death struggle with Jobbik. Recent events, are just the manifestation of this through the authoritarian power of the state.

The brave new world that you've always wanted is happening folks. And all you can do is moan moan moan. You'd think you'd be popping open champagne corks and celebrating...

@BobWhatTheFuck:
From the German wikipedia:
Die Magyar Gárda (ung. Ungarische Garde) ist eine rechtsextremistische, paramilitärisch organisierte Vereinigung in Ungarn, die am 25. August 2007 aus der Partei Jobbik heraus gegründet wurde.

Auch wegen ihres Auftretens, das dem der von 1944 bis 1945 in Ungarn regierenden faschistischen Pfeilkreuzler ähnelt, wird die Gárda als antisemitisch, neofaschistisch und insbesondere gegen die Roma-Minderheit in Ungarn gerichtet kritisiert.

And the MG is illegal - that's why they've taken those loonies away...

@wolfi
BUT MR GYENGE IS NOT A GUARD MEMBER HE WAS JUST WEARING A WAISTCOAT!!!!!!!
Furthermore he is an elected representative of the people, being arrested for the commision of - essentially - a thought crime.

And what makes you think I care for a microsecond what the German wikipedia article says about the MG? Sorry chum but Hungarians may have filled cattle trucks but only Germans pushed their passangers into gas chambers. Why can't you just ever deal with that? Instead of always pointing to some central European "dark heart" that bears the real responsibility.

About no organisation in recent European history is so much concerted deliberate intentionally deceptive bullshit spoken than the MG. The European Liberal Left can sense their demise and are desperate for a bogeyman to frighten their populations into submission. The language gap makes the MG perfect for this. Just let us rob your civil liberties more and give all your powers to the EU as we collect fatter sallaries, or THIS (cue film of the *crunch* *crunch* of the MG'S boots) is what will happen.

Versuch zu verstehen Wolfi. Wir brauchen keine Vergangenheitsbewältigung im Ungarn über Faschismus. Wir HATTEN es für vierzig langes übel schmerzliches Jahre: mit Kommunismus. Und taktisch Kommunismus lebt NOCH in Ungarn mit Gyurcsány, Bajnai und die anderen Diebe von die MSZP. Betrachten Sie das Video mit Ihren Augen.
Nach 20 Jahren von es? Deshalb haben wir Jobbik.
Mensch!

Hi Bobscountrybunker
These stinking Neo Liberal Tossers, the youtube video was appalling treatment, as you commented this is only one example of harassment Jobbik and Magyar Garda have to face on an ongoing basis, These people are not violent only patriotic Hungarians.

Is the hitler boy still lecturing the Hungarians?

@bob
BUT MR GYENGE IS NOT A GUARD MEMBER HE WAS JUST WEARING A WAISTCOAT!!!!!!!
Furthermore he is an elected representative of the people, being arrested for the commision of - essentially - a thought crime.
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This is just TERRIFYING it is like the bad old days are coming back again!!

BUT MR GYENGE IS NOT A GUARD MEMBER HE WAS JUST WEARING A WAISTCOAT!!!!!!!
Furthermore he is an elected representative of the people, being arrested for the commision of - essentially - a thought crime.
Bobscountrybunker at November 26, 2009 6:31 PM
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Bob is screaming one thing above, what contradicts what he stated earlier, in a more balanced post:
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A Jobbik councillor for Budapest's VI. district, chose to wear a white shirt and the Gárda's black waistcoat
Bobscountrybunker at November 26, 2009 5:50 PM
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The fact is, which can easily be seen on the Jobbik-instigated video:
1) The outlawed Magyar Garda official waist-coat with all the emblems and all.
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2) White shirt, which is part of the official uniform.
Here one can discuss if it is part of the uniform, then it is not put inside the black trousers.
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3) Black trousers, which is part of the official uniform.
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4) Black shoes, which is part of the official uniform.
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All this must in every one's mind constitute that the Jobbik councillor is making a statement against the newly introduced law and testing it to get maximum publicity.
In it self is getting maximum publicity not a crime, but doing it by publicly displaying symbols belonging to an outlawed organisation is.
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One question is how a non-guard member can get hold on the official waist-coat on an outlawed organisation?
That he is or not a guard member is probably in the end not so important for the legal issue.

Furthermore he is an elected representative of the people, being arrested for the commision of - essentially - a thought crime.
Bobscountrybunker at November 26, 2009 6:31 PM
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To continue.
The fun starts when Jobbik comes in to the new Parliament, then the MPs have legal immunity, if not a qualified majority of the MPs removes it.
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A local councillor does not have this immunity, so it is possible that he will be slapped with the newly introduce fine.
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Of course it is a 'political' crime and if Jobbik want it they can portray themselves as 'political prisoners', which is part of their normal mouse-tactic, to always be the 'victim'.
And Bob is playing his role in this game.
This is part of the Jobbik election campaign and we have just seen the beginning of it.
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Jobbik has by chosen to organise an uniformed wing, with the outspoken aim to take to arms, distanced itself from the other political parties, who at least try a bit to stay inside the legal framework and democratic principles.
If Magyar Garda was a 'Cultural Organisation' it had never had anti-Roma demonstrations, it would had tried to develop cultural ties and from there move forward.
Looking out your window, seeing a few hundred black dressed men in military formation (still unarmed), is not a thing any society accepts.
It is basically very simple:
The Right To Use Legal Violence Lays With The State, not with different 'parties'.
To march up 100s of MG is by all definition 'violence'.

The point made repeatedly by Jobbik, and correctly, is that black shoes, trousers, waistcoat and white shirt constitute traditional Hungarian male peasant dress. The only variation the democratically elected Councilor was wearing, were the MG emblems on his waistcoat.

Just listen to yourself you nutcase...
"Black shoes" Dun dun dunnnn!!!
"White shirt." This colour clearly chosen for racist motives.
"Black trousers" Gosh! Gasp! Faint! Outrage!
So what if he's have worn trainers that would have been ok would it? Or a suit that just happened to have the waistcoat on underneath? Who's politcs.hu's fashion correspondent now doofus?

You're an authoritarian Viking, pure and simple, and you're the only one screaming:
"ARREST HIM! ARREST HIM!! ARREST HIM!!!"
You fucking Fascist.
And anyone in any doubt up until now knows your true colours for sure. They're red to the core - and knock on your door with a truncheon at three o'clock in the morning.

Now BobThe WackyCountryBoy has done it too :

Viking is a "fascist" - red to the core - and

"knock on your door with a truncheon at three o'clock in the morning."

That sounds really interesting...

Welcome to the "Law"-club that wants to use force on anyone that has a different opinion...

The only variation the democratically elected Councilor was wearing, were the MG emblems on his waistcoat
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You're an authoritarian Viking, pure and simple, and you're the only one screaming:
"ARREST HIM! ARREST HIM!! ARREST HIM!!!"
You fucking Fascist.
And anyone in any doubt up until now knows your true colours for sure. They're red to the core - and knock on your door with a truncheon at three o'clock in the morning.
Bobscountrybunker at November 26, 2009 8:14 PM
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Aahh, now it is getting funny.
Mr TanarUr has lost his cool.
So, let us go through this:
1) "the MG emblems on his waistcoat"
Yes, the emblems of an outlawed organisation.
What is your problem agreeing that this itself was the offence (probably not a crime), so we can lift the debate from that level?
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2) The question still remains - Where could a non-member get hold of this outlawed symbol that is the waist-coat?
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3) What is the significance of the fact that this person has been "democratically elected"?
Except that it is in the Mouse-script Elöd Novak has produced for this event?
Has "democratically elected" people a bigger 'right' to break the Law than others?
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4) For me being "an authoritarian Viking", well I did not know that was a crime, but in my family it is my Law that rules (and I do not speak HP-sauce).
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5) You are still the only one 'SCREAMING' (check net-etiquette if you do not understand me).
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TBC

6) If you would be interested in a real debate, which you several times have publicly declared you are not ('I will never ever discuss with ..... Viking), I am myself not so happy with the development of banning Magyar Garda.
I am probably the only one of the non-Jobos on this site to think that.
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7) It is interesting that you want to "knock on your door with a truncheon at three o'clock in the morning".
I do not take that as a threat, more like a promise.
You are welcome!
Believe me, we Vikings have the possibility to make you an offer you cannot refuse.

Oh no baby, I never get mad. I get even.
Why don't you and wolfi just keep tugging each other off in the meantime?

Christ the level of ignorance in the pair of you is simply beyond imagining. You hear only what you're comfortable hearing, see only what you can understand, and read only what you want to read. No wonder people here talk about ignorant foreigners and 'real' Hungarians.

The ÁVH, you historically ignorant cretins, came for you by knocking on your door at three in the Morning. And this is precisely what you are advocating, andarrest for 'thought crime' to boot.
That's what makes you Fascists.
“First they came...”

@ Bob

Simple question: Why does a political party in a Democratic Society need a "uniform"?

@BobBackyardBoy:

You seem to know all about the AVH. Yes, my wife had to inform me about it, I am not so interested in Hungary's sordid past, only in the future...

Maybe you worked for the AVH and suddenly saw the "right" way after 1989 ?

It was YOU who wrote that phrase - neither Viking or I would think of coming for anyone at night ...

In this case the police was called when someone made a demonstration of something unlawful in plain sight of a lot of people - well jobbiks think they are above the law...

@olga
"Why does a political party in a Democratic Society need a "uniform"?"
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It's a good question. But it begs the question.
The point is that in a free society people should be quite simply free to wearn one if they wish. It's none of your or my or anyone else's business if they so choose.
That's what freedom means.

You see what you are doing is conflating two issues. It's a very common mistake. You are equating democracy with liberty. But the two are not the same. The former is just a mechanism for obtaining a government. What concerns me is the latter. Liberty: a modern conception of freedom that has universal enshrined rights to free action by citizens.

In England for example what we call liberty predated deomcracy (universal suffrage) considerably. Whereas in ancient Athens there was certainly democracy, but hardly what we'd call liberty i.e. slaves etc.

A democracy which denies people the freedoms we are discussing can still call itself a democracy. But then it's a democracy like Iran not a democracy like the US.

@wolfi
I am afraid I am a little sick to the back teeth of idiots who do not even read posts they spend time attacking. You most of all wolfi.
EXACT QUOTE
"And anyone in any doubt up until now knows your true colours for sure. They're red to the core - and knock on your door with a truncheon at three o'clock in the morning."
It is Viking's true colours that are red, i.e. Communist, and like a Communist they knock on your door etc.
I'm afraid you are just another schmuck in the multitude. Duly noted.

@BobtheBloodyIdiot: In the same post you call Viking a fucking fascist and a communist - well he must be really something!

Your use of "fucking" and similar words also shows "wes Geistes Kind" you are - not much difference between you and our late guy from Panama...

The point is that in a free society people should be quite simply free to wearn one if they wish. It's none of your or my or anyone else's business if they so choose.
That's what freedom means.
Bobscountrybunker at November 26, 2009 9:51 PM
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In Sweden 'Political Uniforms' was forbidden after WWII. It was of course directed at the memory of Hitler-Jugend and SA, that existed in local and small variants during the war.
But it was also aimed at stopping the Swedish Communists from doing the same thing after the WWII.
Just given as a foreign but still European reference to this debate
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One can as Bob praise Libertarian values (everyone should be free to do everything, the State is bad and should be kept to a minimum and not interfere in peoples life).
The question we all must ask ourselves is what kind of society will that be?
* A society that protects the vulnerable and poor?
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* A society that give free room for the strong and loud-mouthed?
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Bob keeps ducking the core issue here, with his 'fashion-reporting', of course it is not a question of which clothes any one wear.
It is a question of what 'it' (clothes/flag/other symbol) represents and with Jobbik and Magyar Garda 'it' represents the right to vigilant actions.
- Put together some hundred of mostly guys,
- dress them up in similar clothes (that is impressive and intimidating, depending on the person seeing them),
- march them up in formation (only military exists, it is where it comes from),
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Liberty?
Democracy?

I got stuck on this 'freedom to do what you want'-thing.
Bob has never ever before really cared for those values.
Just remember many of his arguments why a Muslim immigration is bad. This is very much the State must be repressive and stop individuals from doing 'what they want'
Suddenly Bob is very much for allow any one to wear anything.
Hardly 'freedom to do what you want' cannot be limited to just dress-code?
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On the other hand Bob will be the superior defender of the loony left when they will start the 'Lenin Boys' as re-action to Jobbik and Magyar Garda.
I mean, just some red clothes... and nice formations, and standing outside Vona's house, his children's kindergarten, his wife's job, nothing violent, just a few hundred standing looking.
What can be the problem with this picture?

@ Bob

You are correct - in a free society people should be free to wear whatever they want.

Wearing black shirts while representing JOBBIK is not about freedom of choice but an old tactic of trying to provoke and intimidate minority groups with the hope of causing violence and chaos. Proven successful formula.

It’s been the on-going MO of far-right extremist groups since Mussolini started the trend. I suppose Oswald Mosley liked the colour so much, he followed the fashion in the 30’s, right?

You also wrote that “people's civil liberties ARE deliberately being abused”

In your opinion, what happens when one group’s “civil liberties” directly conflict with the rights and freedom and of others? Is fairness a concept practiced by the evil Leftist Devils just to piss off the champions of civil liberties?

I have tried to imagine what it would be like to be a Roma living in Hungary. No money, no education, no options and no future. Surrounded by contempt and hate. I am not sure what you would do, but I certainly don't know what I would do. Loyalty to my country would not be on top of my list.

I see that we still miss any comment from our resident Jobos about that Jobbik/Magyar Garda wants to celebrate a division of the Communist Kun Bela regime.
A division that even had Communists and Jews in their ranks.
Has the reality of 'common goal' hit Jobbik suddenly or are they just stunned by this move?

Reports leaked to Magyar Hirlap indicate that the socialist will pursue an undemocratic election campaign during the the next few months leading up to a spring election in April. Mesterházy, the small calibre stooge has already shaved his beard showing that he was ready to start the campaign that according to Vona, will be the dirtiest ever.
Mesterházy, the protégé of ex-Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsány who is still pulling the string of the puppet, said he would consider Fidesz as an opponent and Jobbik as enemy.
The two criminals—Gyurcsany and Mesterhazy—has already testified in a fraud trial in the case of János Zuchlak, a small fish that was used to syphon money out of state funds under the watchful eyes of Ferenc Gyurcsány; both denied his involvement in the fraud and there is a good chance that the crooks won't get charged because, in all probability they destroyed the evidence of their engagement in the crime and are laying the blame of the fraud on the small fish already enjoying the hospitality of a correctional institution.

There are signs that the socialists, by now, are in a pre-election campaign mood. The party controlled police have stepped up their intimidation campaign against patriotic organizations, in all over the country.

Police are banning residential forums, harassing citizens and putting pressure on municipalities to ban Jobbik election gatherings, exactly as it was promised by Mesterházy in the leaked document.

Cont

Today, riot police have invaded Kiskunlacháza where patriotic organizations planned a commemoration service to remember the innocent victims of crime. Police banned the service and the event was called off, yet cops showed up in the town with overwhelming force to intimidate residents; according to locals, police cars and paddy wagons were everywhere and the town looked like a surreal montage out of a Peter Greenaway movie where police officers running around on empty streets looking for ghosts to arrest. This shows how desperate the regime is; the criminals are borrowing scare tactics form the Rákosi era that people thought was over once and for all, but communist scare tactics made their appearances once again thanks to the Socialist-Liberal administration.

The goal is to ban Jobbik, the only force in the country that still has credibility and a clear vision of getting the country back on its feet. This is what Gábor Vona talked about in a recent press conference.

We can safely say though that the strategy of the regime won't work; it is too late to stop the awakening of the country, as people are demanding radical changes in every segment of society. In fact, the socialists have no good choices left to pursue because whatever strategy they deciding on (persecute Jobbik or try to ignore it, as the mainstream media does), in either case, they will boost the popularity of the party and the agenda of the patriotic movement.
Hungaian Ambience!! Adjon az Isten

"The goal is to ban Jobbik, the only force in the country that still has credibility and a clear vision of getting the country back on its feet." Like almost everything written by Law, this is laughable.

The doctrine of the Holy Crown (Szentkorona-tan) had been the legitimizing underpinning of the Hungarian constitution from the Middle Ages right up until the end of the Second World War. After which it was replaced by a Stalinist document, merely amended in 1989, that we retain as a Constitution to this day.

Still no comments from our resident Jobos about that Jobbik/Magyar Garda wants to celebrate a division of the Communist Kun Bela regime in Romania, which this thread is about, just hot-air about banning Jobbik.

we have friends, who left Romania in 1989 for Germany, a couple of German and Hungarian descent - we'll ask them what they and their relatives in Romania think about jobbik's plans when we'll be in Germany again...

Looking back into the past will not determine the future.
If Jobbik want to be considered as a viable political party lets have their policies/intentions
writ in stone. The Magyar Garda dress in uniform (outlawed, or not) for what purpose? How do they intend to help other Hungarians. We all have history books and know about Hungary's checkered past.
Many Hungarians are looking for alternatives to the MSZP and Fidesz etc; and are getting extremely frustrated by the lack of opportunities
in modern-day Hungary. Jobbik may, or may not, appeal to the disenchanted masses? Anyway, we shall soon be finding out. Watch this space...