The Office of the Prosecutor General (Legfőbb Ügyészség) is investigating the radical nationalist party Jobbik Magyarországért Mozgalom for not having published any annual balances, writes hvg.hu.
Parties are required by law to prepare and publish their balances every year, but Jobbik has not once done this since its formation in 2003.
Prosecutors launched the investigation following a submission by a private individual.
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Not that I’d ever dream of suggesting partisanship from a Politics.hu report. And no doubt Erik will now chime in, as he usually does, to say, “not sufficiently important, not enough time, etc. etc.” But please note how this report is only three sentences long. Yet, the first paragraph of the hvg report reads:
“A Legfőbb Ügyészség vizsgálja, miért nem készítette el kötelező pénzügyi beszámolóit a Jobbik – értesült a HVG. A párt gyors közzétételt ígér.”
Meaning: “The Prosecutor General’s office is investigation, why Jobbik has not prepared its compulsory financial reports – HVG has been told. The party has promised swift compliance.”
Would it have killed you to include the last bit? Though not…
Fine example of false media propaganda against Jobbik, thanks for highlighting this Bob!
Relax bobscountrybunker and Law. The report was factual and made no comment. Why are you so sensitive? Either they have filed accounts or they haven’t, no big deal.
@Abácsi
Because if you take a pop at someone you give them a right of reply. It is called good journalism.
The HVG article gave this right of reply, in its first paragraph, the Politics.hu chose to omit it. Again: A deliberate choice was made to omit balance, which could have been accomplished by a simple five word sentence giving the other side of the story. The point would still have been made, the report would still have been issued.
If you cannot understand why this is important, well then there’s something a bit broken in your brain box pal.
The party has promised swift compliance
bobscountrybunker at January 20, 2010 10:57 AM
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Does not make it less illegal.
A break against tax regulations is still a break against tax regulations, even if you are stupid.
That you will comply with the regulations ‘swift’ is hardly a defence, just a part that will maybe be included in the final evaluation when the Prosecutor decides to charge Jobbik or not.
The Tax Office will of course decide the amount of the fine when the final papers comes in and are accepted.
Assuming again this guy is crazy!! total looney!!
Assuming again this guy is crazy!! total looney!!
Law at January 20, 2010 1:44 PM
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Not following the law is of course not a crime when Jobbik is related?
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“Parties are required by law to prepare and publish their balances every year, but Jobbik has not once done this since its formation in 2003.”
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By Bob’s own translation from the hvg.hu article:
“The party has promised swift compliance”
is an admittance of guilt.
It does not state ‘Jobbik denies these accusations’, it states Jobbik will comply asap.
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That Bob is complaining that this site did not publish Jobbik’s admittance of guilt, honours Bob.
Jobbik’s non existing balances were in the news already last
summer, and nothing happened. I wonder what took the
ügyészség so long, to start the investigation only now.
Law: “Assuming again this guy is crazy!! total looney!!”
I do not know how crazy he is but he is very dishonest. That is the reason I do not bother with him. He twists everything, using a little bit of truth with a lot of lies that makes him so unworthy of debate. Erik showed his bias again by not posting the Jobbik response with the accusation. Jobbik’s promise of “swift compliance” with the filing requirement is not an admission of guilt because it is not a question of guilt but of compliance.
You would be right about Viking being “crazy!! total looney” if he did not know the difference between failure to comply with regulations and a criminal act. I believe that you are being much too kind to him. He is making these things up not because he is “crazy!! total looney” but because he has no integrity. He is a liar.
Have a wonderful day my friend!
@Mark:
Please start your own site – there you can publish whatever you like and believe to be true …
It does not even have to be real, whatever enters your sick mind, go and publish it!
Wolfi phew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Have some respect..
As for Olga…..recommend a stroll underneath a
coconut tree….. “Look out for the falling
coconuts!!!!!!!!!!” might knock some sense into her
@ Viking;
x had a good point. Why did it take so long to start the investigation after you submitted the info to the Prosecutors?
it is not a question of guilt but of compliance.
You would be right about Viking being “crazy!! total looney” if he did not know the difference between failure to comply with regulations and a criminal act
Mark at January 20, 2010 4:59 PM
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Yes, I have
* ‘failed to comply with my obligation to pay taxes for over 5 years’,
* ‘failed to declare those money I get in brown envelopes as income for over 5 years’
* ‘failed to declare anything to the tax office for more than 5 years’
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Of course, I am not a criminal, I just have a bit too much to do, like Zuschlag, I was busy helping my friends with both this and that, so I did not have the time to fill in all those papers, declaring all those millions going through my hands.
A clear-cut case of a over-worked individual who is just trying to help the rest of Hungary to be better.
I cannot be a criminal and I will swiftly comply to sending in all those papers, when I will have time, but now I need to run and distribute some more money
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NB. I do not claim that the above is Jobbik, so you can forget that.
The point is, if individuals and companies who does not comply with tax regulations and other rules, Jobbik is very fast screaming “Criminal!” after them.
Sooner or later, that reflex comes back and haunt your-self.
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Just think the language our resident hate-mongers would have used if this was SZDSZ being accused of this?
We would have 40 posts in 3 days, written by 3-5 persons under about 10 different aliases.
x had a good point. Why did it take so long to start the investigation after you submitted the info to the Prosecutors?
justasking at January 20, 2010 6:33 PM
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Actually I cannot take the credit for *that* one.
I think though some thing must be rotten, if
“Prosecutors launched the investigation following a submission by a private individual”
WTF do they do in the Office that should keep track of these things?
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But you give me ample reason to answer back with another ‘conspiracy-theory’, or ‘Truth’ as Law would call it:
The reason why it took so long time for the Prosecutors was of course that there are Jobbik-members among them and they tried to hide it for all the Jewish Prosecutors who eat Jobbik to breakfast, lunch and dinner.
The Pro-Jobbik Prosecutors plan is that the Jobbik Leadership is elected to Parliament, so they will get immunity from Prosecution by these Jewish Prosecutors.
Given the speed it looks like the plan will succeed.
Who has not learned from Berlusconi?
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A legal question though – What would happen with Jobbik’s right to stand in the Elections if their economy is not ‘legal’?
@ Viking;
Obviously, somebody is snooping around Jobbik. Who’s to say that the delay in investigation was because nobody thought that Jobbik would ever be a threat?
Obviously, somebody is snooping around Jobbik
justasking at January 20, 2010 9:32 PM
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Jobbik themselves have made a number of police reports and complaints to election committies during the years on other parties’ behaviour down to the last letter in every book they have found to interpret to write a complaint, so who should be surprised?
Hi Law,
You need to read his follow up post (Viking at January 20, 2010 8:25 PM) to see why this “man” is without any integrity. He brings in a lot of different things that have nothing to do with Jobbik’s late filing of financial data. I believe that, as in the USA, all is required is compliance as Jobbik promised to do.
It is not a crime in America and maybe Pava or Bob can tell us about Hungarian laws concerning political parties filing requirements.
Dear Mark
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From day one when I witnessed Viking bagging Hungarians and supporting the corrupt establishment was when I knew he was here as an Israel agent.
Thanks to people like you who helped highlight how to tackle these provocateurs, thanks for your truthfulness and patience.
For the inexperienced it’s easy to fall into the trap they set, especially for the new comers who aren’t aware of how the Neo Liberals have created such a false reality in the western nations.
It took me around a year after living here in Hungary to begin to see the reality of how Hungarians have been kept from excelling because of the continuous lies and corruption the establishment have created to try and divide and rule the Hungarian nation., and it’s the remnants of the Communist Jews who are still masquerading as democratic leaders.
Well I hope after the elections we will have the opportunity to honestly improve the future of Hungary for Hungarians Adjon az Isten – Szebb jövőt! You give us Hope
It is not a crime in America and maybe Pava or Bob can tell us about Hungarian laws concerning political parties filing requirements.
Mark at January 21, 2010 8:33 AM
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Of course, it is not a crime.
The Office of the Prosecutor General (Legfőbb Ügyészség) has just nothing else to do than starting investigating non-crimes.
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As usual from Mark and his ilk, 2 standards apply:
- A Premium for Jobbik and its friends,
- A normal for the rest of the world.
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And maybe Jobbik’s legal experts, Pava and Bob, can answer if Jobbik should be excluded from the upcoming election or even be legally disband due to not following “political parties filing requirements”?
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Just for a few pieces of papers similar to that every person earning money and company must file every year.
And these people we would like to trust with the Government?
Hi Law,
You are right about Viking the Israel agent and as time goes on there will be a lot more like him. I just read in the Magyar Hirlap that they are organizing people to disrupt internet lists with misinformation and lies. They will pretend to be Jobbik and hit Fidesz below the belt to get Fidesz supporters to go after Jobbik supporters. We have no Fidesz supporters here, only Jobbik supporters and Communists, they use a different approach. They just keep on lying about Jobbik as Viking does. I do not see that as a big problem because his fellow pro-Israel, anti-Hungarian Communist comrades already hater Jobbik. What can they do, hate us even more?
Szebb jövőt my friend!
Here is the link to the MH article:
http://www.magyarhirlap.hu/belfold/ennel_lejjebb_nincs_nagyon_durva_mszps_netkampany.html
You are right about Viking the Israel agent and as time goes on there will be a lot more like him. I just read in the Magyar Hirlap that they are organizing people to disrupt internet lists with misinformation and lies
Mark at January 21, 2010 5:33 PM
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If you read the article it is a Fidesz-friendly paper that claims that MSZP is doing this, but in Mark’s world Israel and MSZP is the same thing.
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On the other hand we have all seen these ‘Linesman’, ‘FloatingVoter’ etc, to show up and write things that our resident Jobbik-megaphones immediately have nice answer to, which describes Jobbik in bright colours and Fidesz in a bit greyer colours.
But those are of course not a ‘campaign’, of course not.
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I think I was the 2nd one who posted here some years a go. That was in response to ‘John Simpson’, who was a emigrated BNP-fan from the UK, who sometimes writes under that name, but today also other BNP and ‘Illinois Nazi’ chime in here in Hungary to secure Jobbik’s victory, then Jobbik can get a rather big representation in the Hungarian Parliament, which other similar parties, like BNP in the UK, can just dream of.
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One can of course ask why the Israelis would have chosen a Swedish identity for me?
And why would the Israeli’s spend time on an English web-site on Hungary?
Given Mark and his ilk normal statement about the number of Jews in Hungary, it would be not so hard finding one that was better in Hungarian than me, who also could contribute in an Hungarian site.
Paranoia
WARNING:
http://www.magyarhirlap.hu/belfold/ennel_lejjebb_nincs_nagyon_durva_mszps_netkampany.html
A politikai riválisok lejáratása érdekében a pártközpontból érkező utasítások hamis hírek készítésére szólítják fel a netaktivistákat, akiknek megtévesztésül nemzeti radikálisnak kell kiadniuk magukat,
Translation:
To make political opponents lose credibility, instructions from party (MSZP) headquarters direct the Internet agents to pretend to speak as if they were for national radicals,
Maybe Bob or Pava can do a better translation but I see that these recent forgeries using Law’s name and my name are in accordance with this MSZP directive. My suggestion is to read the content of posts because these forgeries are very primitive and easy to discover.
these recent forgeries using Law’s name and my name are in accordance with this MSZP directive. My suggestion is to read the content of posts because these forgeries are very primitive and easy to discover.
Mark at January 23, 2010 8:48 AM
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Or it is you guys doing it yourself to claim ‘Victim’-status again?
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Personally I have not a clue. I am just observing who is trying to gain from this abuse of Free Speech.
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I think you can register with the AllMediaGroup to ‘protect’ your alias.
I do remember Eric wrote some thing about that before.