So the Fidesz Management acted with lightning speed on this exclusion, in difference to the slow process of excluding Molnar Oskar.
But Molnar was just bad with the Roma, Mádi was bad with Fidesz 'Kiss and No Tell'-policy.
Good that Fidesz have their priorities right.

@Viking: And Jobbik have also admitted they would introduce a property tax starting at 50m, according to Lenhardt Balázs: http://hvg.hu/gazdasag.hazai/20100129_ingatlanado_vagyonado_fidesz_jobbik.aspx

And here is the English variant of that link:
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http://www.realdeal.hu/20100129/property-tax-requires-more-preparation-say-opposition-fidesz
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The funny part is that Jobbik sees every one who bought an estate over 50 MHUF as criminals, hence the need of the tax
"to generate a revenue from illegal earnings invested in properties"

Tax. Tax.Tax. And still more tax. MSZP/Fidesz/Jobbik are all one of the same variety. No matter how they care to advertise themselves. Thick, no-hope quasi-commie interlopers with as much idea of drawing up policy that will enable this country to succeed as the man in the moon.
Tax(i). Tax(i)dermist. Ta(n)x a lot for nothing.
Greedy dogs chewing over the same "meatless" bone.
Germany is beginning to "wobble"..watch out Europe. Greece is long gone. And the Iberian peninsular - Portugal and Spain teetering on the brink also. Cracks showing in dear old IMF too.
It's good news week. I am so happy to be alive.

I like Jobbik’s ideas on property taxation. I would like to see more details on it as the campaign goes on. My only suggestion would be is that the property tax should remain with the local government for use by local governments. The tax rate and the amount of revenue collected should be decided by popular vote. It is how it is done in America and while everyone is complaining about property taxes, people keep voting for increases when they feel justified and need for their community. Not one penny (forint) of property taxes should go to the central government.
A am not a Fidesz supporter but if one of their candidates goes against their party platform, they should not expect their parties support. It goes for any party. At least they do not use criminal methods to blackmail their opponents as David and Herenyi of MDF did. That goes too far and that is why they try so desperate for immunity.

@ Mark. I am all for reform that will enable taxpayer's money to be spent in a way that will benefit the people.
Central government should not be allowed to get its muddy paws on it - if possible, but unlikely.
It is these matters that parties like Jobbik and others should already have clearly thought-out plans drawn up and detailed in such a way, that we can all understand.
I cannot envisiage anything taking place in the way of progress, otherwise.

The tax rate and the amount of revenue collected should be decided by popular vote
Mark at February 1, 2010 5:33 PM
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You need to get Fidesz to change the constitution first, then referendums about things in the Budget are not allowed. Tax-rates would definitely be in there
Of course Mark want the Tax to be local, then how much money will be collected around Miskolc, one of Jobbik strong-holds?
It is good Mark want the rich areas keep their tax and not support the poor areas of Hungary
A true Jobbik-policy
Wonder when the majority of Jobbik voters will discover that the money from this tax will not benefit their areas, just the few rich areas in Budapest and some other big cities, where the Jobbik-voters are in a clear minority

I never would have imagined that I needed to know all this. I DID need to know this! Thank goodness for Google.

@HZRT
I suppose you are the same person who is asking the questions under different names. Nothing wrong with that but I believe that you should be able to read Jobbik’s program the same as I and find out what you need to know. My ideas on property taxation are my own ideas and I do not know what Jobbik proposes other than what that article said about taxing homes above 50 million forint.
The way I see it, it is not necessarily the exact wording of what is proposed but whom you trust. The Communist MSZP/SZDSZ, coalition, and MDF have zero credibility. The power of “internal and external “ultra liberal” can do little to save them the defeat they so well deserve. Fidesz enjoys the support of majority of Hungarians mainly because most people see them as the only viable alternative to the Communists. You could say that they have conditional credibility with the Hungarian people.
The more the internal and external “ultra liberal” media is going after Jobbik, the more credibility they gain. All any Hungarian has to do is turn on ATV, see the raw hatred of these Communists to become Jobbik supporters. Most of the Hungarians who like Jobbik are not convinced that Jobbik is ready to govern. I believe that Jobbik is ready to govern.

@Mark: Do you get paid by the meter? Doesn't seem to matter to your puppet masters what you say as long as you offload 10 dollops a day.
Anyway, since you don't actually read any news and struggle with the simplest Hungarian (like your buddies Ricsi, Law etc...) here is more proof that Fidesz are basically going to do exactly the same as Bajnai has: Opposition leader Orbán dined with international bankers, IMF, OECD, Stanley Fischer, Merrill Lynch... at the weekend in order to 'Reset Hungary!' http://bit.ly/9fqe7X

Most of the Hungarians who like Jobbik are not convinced that Jobbik is ready to govern. I believe that Jobbik is ready to govern.
Mark at February 2, 2010 8:20 AM
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Ohh, an earth-shattering moment
A true and honest opinion from Mark, that can be verified with official published data in mainstream (Mark would write 'jewish') media
In one poll Jobbik had 9% support MDF 3%, but only 5% saw the Jobbik leader as the next PM, while 12% saw the MDF's proposal, Lajos Bokros, as the next PM
Bokros fixed the economy in the years 1995-1998
That is Bokros' CV
Try something that claims they will have problems with half the world ("enemies"?) and never even run a simple shop, or choose the guy that fixed the problem 15 years ago, when Hungary was in a similar dilemma (too many foreign loans needed to be paid back and too big State that was too expensive)
After that you have had both Fidesz and MSZP in Government making a mess of it all, by increasing State spending
Jobbik support for Fidesz is only tactical, they really hate them and have very few things in common when it comes to actual things to introduce
Jobbik is too coward to criticise Jobbik before the Election and Fidesz is too coward to say to the electorate what they really want to introduce, then the options are not many
Here the MDF can make a positive difference in the sense it can make Fidesz less dependent on Jobbik in the next Parliament, so the main parties can concentrate on real politics, instead of slogans

Vandorlo@Earth shattering news from you,NOT. Some of us have always said that we will see little if any difference between Fidesz and MSZP, the two main parties in almost every country tow the same line these days,hence our search for an alternative.
Still good to see you have 'opened your eyes' at last :)

Some of us have always said that we will see little if any difference between Fidesz and MSZP
Ricsi at February 2, 2010 10:51 AM
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Why then support Fidesz in the upcoming elections over the MSZP?
Why not just claim "Same shit, different colours!"?
No, you do not want to alienate the Fidesz-voter with that talk, you want him to vote for Jobbik, thinking he will strengthen Fidesz that way against MSZP
Will Jobbik change their official position on the new Housing Tax now when Fidesz officially does not want it?
Or will Jobbik challenge Fidesz on that Tax and claim 'Hungary needs higher taxes!'?
It must clearly be better to chose a party that is willing to 'spill the beans' even *before* the election and with candidates that has a proven track-record in fixing things
What did Jobbik fix?
What difference have Jobbik done in the European Parliament since last Summer, except pissing people off?

@Ricsi: Perhaps you can explain Jobbik's position with regards to Russia and its Soviet legacy to me. Particularly where Jobbik stands in regards to symbols of their oppression such as the Soviet monument. Budaházy has just been fined 500,000 ft following his attack on the monument, he is supported and held up as a martyr by Jobbik and Jobbik want to move the countries interests to the East and Russia. So which is it? How do you square this circle? Is Russia good or bad? Budaházy, was he wrong to do what he did? Should other Jobbiks follow? Any chance of a coherent policy anytime soon? http://www.klubradio.hu/cikk.php?id=16&cid=102827

@Ricsi: p.s. Orbán is off to Frankfurt now for more talks: http://www.mno.hu/portal/692346 Seems like the worries about the Gripen case has got him dancing to everyone's tune. A bit different from the empty bravado (read arrogant stupidity) of a few months back. And America must fondly remember what a complete tart he was last time he was in power. Guess it's payback time and time to empty the closet.

@Mark. I am not ploughing through an 88-page document (in Hungarian) to find out what Jobbik's policies are in terms of a renaissance for this country.
A summary by you, or another Jobbik supporter, would do. Considering the level of debate on this forum I'm sure it would suffice.
I can tell you quite candidly that I do not have any faith in any of the politicians that will contend the forthcoming elections.
Fidesz, MSZP, or Jobbik, can argue among themselves. Could I care less?
I have read a lot of what Bokros has written about
the time he intervened to save Hungary from the brink. I was impressed, but, whether he has the will or the stamina to make a difference this time around- I just don't know.
The MDF and SZDSZ will join together and rename themselves, THE SELF-PRESERVATION SOCIETY.
I choose to say whatever I please under any pseudonym I care to post. We still have freedom speech in these parts. I'm sure you understand

@Ricsi: I take some of that back, apparently Jobbik don't consider him enough of a hero to put him on the prospective list of MPs. As a result of which Kuruc.info portal is having a hissy fit and threatening to disavow Jobbik: http://bit.ly/bNAplZ I guess it's time for Jobbik to make clear what and who they do actually stand for. No more convenient empty gestures.

@HZRT: The Hungarian Spectrum blog went to the trouble of picking through bits of their program: http://esbalogh.typepad.com/hungarianspectrum/2010/01/election-program-of-the-hungarian-far-right.html and the two post following that. The writer is a devote fan of Gyurcsány so should be read in that light. Notable bits missing, such as how Jobbik are to deal with Roma, which again isn't mentioned in her latest post about Roma.

@HZRT: I have no problem with the names you use but it is confusing at times. I recognize that it is you because you always ask the same question. I have no problem with that either because you are not attacking anyone. If you like Bokros, that is your choice. Those Hungarians who remember the “Bokros csomag” are not too fond of him.
The Jobbik program is slow reading for me also and I am not sorry for not being able to offer you a summary. It may be something Ricsi or Law might take up with Jobbik and ask them if they would provide an English version summary of their program. It would be grand. I am not saying that you should not read what Eva Balogh has to say but I feel that I should tell you that in my opinion, she is pro-Communist and anti-Hungarian but she has a good command of English.
@Vandorlo: You worry too much about my posts. Are you that afraid of truth? Maybe you could set up another Israeli propaganda site and use it exclusively to post about those bad Nazis but never one negative word about Communists and Zionazis.
@Ricsi: Easy to see where Vandorlo is coming from. He is against both Fidesz and Jobbik. He is a paid agent provocateur for Lendvai/Perez and for MSZP/SZDSZ. He may not have much luck this time.

@Vándorló. Thank you very much for the information. I'm going to check it out now.
@Mark. Thank you too for the civility extended to me.
I can't remember anyone posting on this site
who supported either the MSZP or Fidesz.
Most of the argument now seems to centre around
Liberals and the far right, Jobbik.
I am not saying I support Bokros. I read a document by him which made a lot of sense to me.
And, as a pragmatic individual I like to see and deal in facts rather than hypothesis or rhetoric.
We live in dangerous times and I want Hungary to
concentrate on improving the lot for ordinary citizens.
Those who have stolen from the people in the past should be brought to justice.
I apologise for using different names but I just try, now and again, to squeeze in amongst you "heavy hitters" and avoid the flak.