Some 3,400 Hungarians eligible to vote have indicated they would like to cast their ballots abroad, the national election office told MTI on Friday.
Voters have until March 19 to declare their intention to vote abroad. Voting in the first round of elections is done at embassies on April 4, one week before election day in Hungary. In the second round, voting is on the same day as in Hungary, on April 25. Voting by post or proxy is not allowed under Hungary’s election laws.
Over the past years, the most popular polling stations abroad have been in Brussels, London, New York and Dublin.
I like to vote to:/
And i know many more magyars how want to vote who live in Sweden, but then we all must go to Stocholm i think.
@ Cinaed
Hey, just in case your wife wants to vote, here is
some info for you
Thanks Olga, I’ll get in touch the consulate as soon as I can.
No voting by post ?
This is stupid. So if someone is on holiday on one of those voting days, they can’t vote ?
Really strange …
So if someone is on holiday on one of those voting days, they can’t vote ?
wolfi at March 6, 2010 9:13 AM
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The Hungarian Constitution is very clear on that point. On the day of the election you must be an Hungarian citizen permanent resident in Hungary and being inside the borders of the Republic of Hungary to cast your vote
The plot of Hungarian Embassies constitutes ‘inside the borders of the Republic of Hungary’ and that is why you physically need to move your but inside the ‘borders’
The link to the Constitution, even in English, is on http://www.mkab.hu, but that web-site is down at the moment (I tried both here and via vpn from Sweden), so I cannot quote the exact wording, but I will remember it is article 70
I will remember the part of having a ‘Permanent Residence’ in Hungary, so anyone that have emigrated, or never lived in Hungary, even being an Hungarian citizen, has no voting rights in the Hungarian National elections
For other elections in Hungary other rules applies
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So, no pre-voting and no postal voting
Not even proxy voting, so people that cannot go to the polling-station due to age/handicap will be visited by some voting-officials on the voting day to be able to vote. This need of course to be set up in advance and is normally fixed by the different party-workers, so ‘their’ voters can vote
@Viking:
Thanks for the clarifications!
My wife would have to travel to Berlin – that’s as far for us as traveling back to Hungary (for a day ?, not really sensible).
I don’t think this is really EU-conformant, but this election seems to be “fixed” already, anyway.
Anyway the text should be:
Only about 3500 Hungarians abroad are able to vote – due to ridicilous laws …
There sure are many more – maybe they just don’t bother with what might become joboland in a few years …
The law should be changed, we are the biggest Europén minority in Europe right? If Irakies can vore why couldent we?
The law should be changed; we are the biggest Europén minority in Europe right? If Irakies can vore why couldent we?
SWEMagyar at March 7, 2010 12:03 PM
The law should be changed but not to make it easier for people living outside of Kárpátmedence to vote. I am not crying over overseas Hungarians’ and their children’s difficulties of going to the polling places. If they want to be Hungarians, real Hungarians, they can follow the example of Law and Ricsi, move to Hungary and work for a Hungary with a “szebb jövő”. Hungary is very fortunate to people like them and they are not alone.
The real injustice and the shame is that Hungarians of Kárpátmedence were denied Hungarian citizenship by not enough Hungarians going to the polls to vote for it. Some may try to cover their shame by reminding us that the Communist MSZP/SZDSZ coalition campaigned against it and used the specter of 30 million Rumanians flooding Hungary to discourage the voters. It was a dirty Communist lie used to divide the Hungarians living inside and outside Hungary’s present boundaries. Whatever the excuses, it does not absolve the shame of those who voted against or did not go to the polls.
Fidesz promised to correct the injustice. We will soon see.
I did not leave Elle out of disrespect. Earlier, she corrected me and told me that is a Hungarian voter but I assume that she is a Hungarian originally from Hungary and writes English and Hungarian so well because she is naturally smart.
we are the biggest Europén minority in Europe right? If Irakies can vore why couldent we?
SWEMagyar at March 7, 2010 12:03 PM
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The Treaty of Trianon made 3,425,000 ethnic Hungarians lose their homeland
The current estimate of Roma people in Europe range from 4 million up to 14 million, so I think as minority goes, Hungarians are out-counted
Which is actually not the point, if Hungarians who has a valid citizenship should be able to vote in Hungarian National elections
It is a strict Hungarian law that regulates that
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The comparison with the Iraqis, especially from a Swedish point of view, is that it lives 170.000 Iraqi citizens in Sweden, mostly Kurds
About 40.000 of those are expected to vote in the on-going voting that takes place during 3 days in the 3 biggest cities in Sweden now
This is an Iraqi-operation and as long it does not interfere with Swedish legislation it is OK, but it is up to the Iraqis to organise everything
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The situation with Hungary is different then not so many of the ‘ethnic Hungarians’ abroad are Hungarian citizens
Given the debate that a large number of these ‘ethnic Hungarians’ abroad should become Hungarian citizens also, would not give them voting rights today, as per above
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If the law would be changed (could be by Fidesz now to secure 10-15 years of future Fidesz-rule) these ‘ethnic Hungarians’ abroad would then be so many that they could influence politics inside post-Trianon Hungary, without paying taxes or suffering the consequences
The real injustice and the shame is that Hungarians of Kárpátmedence were denied Hungarian citizenship by not enough Hungarians going to the polls to vote for it
BIG JIM ON VOTING at March 7, 2010 12:53 PM
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You asked the people and you lost, so why complain?
Under the current legislation even these Hungarian citizens would not be able to vote, then they would not have a permanent residence in Hungary
The question is if Fidesz also will let them vote and hope the new voters will vote Fidesz?
What exatly is the point of Voting in Hungary anyway.
There has been 20 years of Political Pin Pong since the Russians left and there have also been 20 Years of Theft, Fraud, Lies, Embezzlement, Betrayal and at least a Million missed opportunities for Hungary to become something other than a Sewer…
The fact the people think Voting has any purpose in Hungary says a lot about the Blind Stupidity that is around every corner.