Well this is a VERY interestingly worded article, isn't it folks?
Jobbik is described as Ultra-Nationalist and Extreme-Right by Hungary Around the Clock usually. But here Budaházy, the anti-Democrat, is only of the Radical Right-Wing. Cleverly done. But there's more!

Jobbik has been collecting his endorsement slips apparently.
Even though every single Jobbik person ever asked this question, has always denied it. And said they would never do such a thing.
They have their people, we have ours. They have always said, from Vona on down.

But of course that's not the logic here. If you think people charged with terrorism deserve the right to defend themselves, and deserve to have their cases heard in court? Well. What does that make you? Apart from guilty by association...

And of course we have to rehash the Király András story, because the international news agencies don't give a crap, but we've got to just TRY and make people bothered internationally, so we'll pop it in an article about Budaházy.

This is the shoddiest excuse for a piece of journalism I have ever seen. At least MTI attempts to hide its propaganda pieces HATC can't even be bothered to do even that!

@Bobs..: You know full well is that all they have done is directly take the "radikális" as used in Hungarian and lazily translated back to English without any of the emotive force of its misuse in Hungarian (cf. 'Radikális változás').

Beside that what Jobbik say about themselves is of as much worth as listening to any of the other parties representing themselves. People rarely talk ill of themselves.

The belly laugh comes early today: Thank you, Vándorló:

'"radikális" as used in Hungarian and lazily translated back to English without any of the emotive force of its misuse in Hungarian (cf. 'Radikálisadikális változás')’.

Oooh, the linguistic profundity here: 'Radikális változás' (radical change) has 'emotive force' and is a Hungarian misuse of ‘radikális’! Vándorló deeply resents the radical change that is afoot in Hungary. That, however, does not make ‘radical change’ mean anything other than ‘radical change’.

@Elle: You are wrong. 'radikális' has an additional emotive force that is not expressed by related synonyms in Hungarian, such as 'mélyreható'.

If 'Radikális változás' just means 'radical change' without the additional emotive force.

As I asked of Bobs... elsewhere:
"Anyway, on language in general anyone else uneasy about how un-Hungarian a lot of the Jobbik-Fidesz vocabulary is? Why use so many loan words? Why 'radikális' and not 'mélyreható'?
Looks like pretty much all the loan word from English have really negative connotations for Jobbik, such as: korrupció, privatizáció, multinacionális, monetáris, infrastruktúra, civil szféra, stratégiai. Oh, and tolerancia."

Dead wrong, Vándorló. 'Radikális' and 'mélyreható' are synonymous, and neither is emotive. And it is rather funny that you claim that ‘korrupció, privatizáció, multinacionális, monetáris, infrastruktúra, civil szféra, stratégiai’ are ‘loan word from English’. You will find that all these words are Latin-derived, so as much ‘loan words’ in English usage as in Hungarian usage. (There is occasionally a drive in Hungary against Latinisms, Germanisms, Slavisms, etc.)

@Elle: "You will find that all these words are Latin-derived" You're brilliant Elle, that really is an eye opener. Latin? That's some education you got there.
I maintain 'radikális' is heavier and stronger than 'mélyreható', which is why it was used by Jobbik to describe themselves.
You need to spend some time in Hungary.

Now, this is very Vándorló of you, Vándorló. When caught short, bark out insults. What good do you think this mongrel tactic does you?

Here's what I don't get: Does this immunity thing apply to all crimes? Would he still be sprung if he was accused of actually murdering someone? Basically, the story for me here isn't Budaházy but the whole matter of immunity for politicians/candidates. Anyone know if the Hungarian law/regulations are usual/unusual vis-a-vis the rest of Europe? Seems weird, to say the least.

@Elle: The use of these words in modern Hungarian comes from the impact and influence of English on modern Hungarian, not sodding Latin, Greek or anything else. It is the pernicious creep of that bastardised form of English spoken and abused by non-natives.
Of all the people in political life that abuse this most Morvai is certainly pretty close to leading the mongrel pack, too.
Talking of their ultimate linguistic routes, does not hide the fact that they are current in Hungarian now because of English, not Latin.

@ Vandorlo

I actually addressed these comments to Pavaszem in a different way on another thread but then I realized that it is against his religion to address issues that relate to present day Hungary or to the upcoming elections.

It boggles my mind that Hungarian laws allow convicted criminals to be nominated as parliamentary candidates. Budahazy has been convicted of crimes in the past. Thus he has a criminal record. For a political party that promises to go "hard on crime" , I believe it's just a teeny tiny bit hypocritical.

Moreover, to nominate a candidate in order to circumvent the judicial process smack of tampering with the justice system.

I know that people in Hungary are sick and tired of crooked politicians and corrupt government. I feel certain that some people who do not have neo-Nazi leaning might consider voting for JOBBIK simply because they want a real change.

Maybe this Budahazy incident will wake people up - if this is example of the "honest politicians" who will going to deliver the country from corruption then the country is in more trouble than I thought.

I saw fake pictures of Prince Charles and Camilla in the synagogue yesterday. It was an Israeli plot - it was not really them. Doubles. The real C and C were fox hunting in the UK killing poor little defenseless animals.

Have a good time in Istanbul. I've never been there but it's on my "list" to go there one day.

@pervy pavian:

So sphere is a Latin word now, well I learned in school that it was Greek, but of course you're the authority here ...

It just shows what a complete idiot you are with your "intelligent" rantings - you don't know shit, but your jobo friends are easily impressed ...

O I'm so sorry!

I should have known that perv wouldn't make a mistake like that, it was his disciple Elle.

Maybe perv could instruct her, because he's the expert on "dead" languages like Latin, Greek and Hebrew ...

@Olga: In balance using political office to claim immunity from prosecution is really common. At one time a lot of French MPs hid behind this, and then used the local 'statute of limitation' laws to avoid prosecution once outside office. This was particularly true of Mitterrand http://bit.ly/9SpUxR Followed later by pretty much the same with Chirac (stemming from his misuse of money when he was mayor of Paris).
Also, Viking has already brought up Berlusconi, whose immunity was finally lifted by the Italian courts in October last year.
Here, whether Budaházy seeks literal 'political asylum' as an MP or not, those working for him will do their best to push things as far as Hungarian courts allow. Which means that, as with the Turul statue there will be no end to this and the 'statute of limitations' will kick in here again too.
The other MPs will not really have grounds to complain as this is one of the pillars upon which their various escapes from accountability have been built - from all parties.
Obviously this all takes a decent amount of collusion, including demanding that police, prosecutors (particularly the internal government watchdogs) and judges all play along. No-one is inclined to change.
Obviously, by this action and with their accounting practices Jobbik have already shown they clearly have no respect for accountability and openness.
Bobs... crowing about yesterday's news demonstrating that Jobbik is different is so specifically, deliberately superficial.

@Olga: In the UK convicted criminals can return to office following them having served their sentence. Such was the case with Lord Archer's who many wished to exclude from returning to the House of Lords following his conviction for perjury (a complete twat of a man who is about as honest as Jobbik's accounts).
Also, throughout his career the Taoiseach Charles Haughey was constantly embroiled in various scandals.
I wouldn't say Hungary is any worse than anywhere else, and quite a bit better than quite a few places in Europe right now.

@Erik: To be honest I don't even know which type of immunity PM's here would claim protection under. Simple diplomatic immunity ("diplomáciai mentesség")as enjoyed by foreign diplomats (there was the UK case where WPC Yvonne Joyce Fletcher was shot and killed from within the Libyan embassy) in which case officially these people are untouchable. Or Judicial immunity ("bírói mentelmi jog; bírói mentesség")?
Are there other types of immunity (excluding the 'insane' plea and that of the sovereign)?
Thankfully I know no criminal lawyers, only construction, corporate and accounting types. Maybe, ultimately this is for constitutional lawyers only, in which case I doubt I'll ever meet one.

Does this immunity thing apply to all crimes?
Erik at March 19, 2010 2:20 PM
The Hungarian Constitution is here your friend:
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http://mkab.hu/index.php?id=constitution
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Article 20.
(2) Members of Parliament shall perform their activities in the public interest.
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(3) Members of Parliament are granted immunity, in accordance with the provisions of the statute on the legal status of Members of Parliament.
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(6) A majority of two-thirds of the votes of the Members of Parliament present is required to pass the statute on the legal status of Members of Parliament
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So the answer is
'yes, all crimes but the system is suppose to work like that if it is obviously not a political motivated accusation, no majority should be created in Parliament'
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I would bet my last underwear that at least one MP in the next Parliament will challenge Budahazy's legal immunity and table a motion for his dismissal as MP.
This is the whole reason with him going to the Parliament - to 'expose the corrupt politicians', in the sense they will expel him asap and throw him to the NNI-wolves
Jobbik will vote against, Fidesz do not want to vote against, but probably must and the rest will vote in favour
So Gábor Zázrivecz (aka Vona) and his best buddy Budahazy will get their day in the Parliament

I just so happened to be speaking to a Hungarian native speaker today...funny that.
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I showed them the two words ('Radikális' and 'mélyreható') in print without any other information and asked "what do these two words mean? Are they the same or different? Are they interchangeable? Are they synonyms?
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Answer: "No (with emphasis) they are not the same, Radikális is far more stronger and deeper; associated with revolution in terms of impact. Mélyreható is less used, and is more like 'deeply affecting', relating to deep impact or consequence."
(quoting verbatim)
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What I don't get is how someone can be immune from prosecution on the basis of 'parliamentary privilege, BEFORE they become a member of parliament. I actually have no idea if it's the same at home, but that is just ridiculous. Actually, I have yet to be convinced that there should be immunity from prosecution while people ARE in government. Anyhow, that's just opinion.

@ Cináed
It is probably a waste of my time, but I shall try to explain the etymology of ‘mélyreható’. It is transliterated thus: ‘to the depth reaching/travelling/bound’. Usages are, of course, many. Here is a perspicuous one: ‘A gyökér mélyre hatol’ (the root goes to/makes for the deep/depth.) ‘A mélyreható gyökér’ would translate as ‘the depth-bound root’ or ‘the travelling-to-the-deep root’. Now, I take it you know what ‘radical’ means. It has to do with travelling/moving/reaching, etc. to the root, does it not? ‘Radical’ translates directly into Hungarian as ‘radikális’. Now, can you distinguish ‘mélyreható’ and ‘radikális’? (You might consider consulting a literate native speakker of Hungaring.)

You know Elle, you can go on and on about etymology as much as you like...and you can smear your own countrymen as well, but ultimately it doesn't mean much. Common usage of a word counts as much as its origins. ...and as for literacy, well, you make plenty of mistakes and 'typos' yourself that I just overlook because I don't find that kind of commenting to be edifying to anyone. On the contrary, it demeans us all.

@ Cináed
‘… you can smear your own countrymen …’ Are you completely stupid?

You delivered yourself of the meaning of Hungarian words. I offered a response to that. Then you say that etymology ‘doesn't mean much’. You have just demonstrated that open mind you beat your breast about.

@Elle, the pompous \'etymologist\'....
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Before lecturing us/Cinaed about your mastery of words/etymology, perhaps you\'d want to get your own misuse of the language (your primary one, correct?) in line first?
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\"It is probably a waste of my time, but I shall try to explain the etymology of ‘mélyreható’. It is transliterated thus\"
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you mean TRANSLATED not TRANSLITERATED...
transliteration means a transcription from one alphabet to another!
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\"Here is a perspicuous one\"
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Why would you use the most obscure word possible (to sound intelligent of course!) to indicate the meaning \"(of language) transparently clear; easily understandable\". I KNOW the irony is UN-intentional!
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OK I will let your typo go (\"speakker\")...
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\"You might consider consulting a literate native speakker of Hungaring.\"
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You might want to consider using English words more in line with your actual vocabulary as opposed to going out of your way to use words that are not in anyone\'s standard vocabulary; the only goal being that you want to look more intelligent than you reallly ARE.
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Written communication is about COMMUNICATION; most professionals advise using words that are the best choice to say something clearly and concisely for your target audience... You use the strategy of the annoying geek who deliberately picks words to talk \"down\" to the audience and I would like to express my humble annoyance at this and point out you don\'t look so smart on this end.

@Elle: Oly gyökértelen alak vagy. I don't know, you have either completely lost touch with your roots or never really had them and spent so little time in Hungary or concerned with matters in Hungarian that you don't even know the difference.
Even the dictionaries disagree with you. Look what I found in the pocket-dictionary of foreign words "Idegen szavak kéziszótár" (admittedly the only one I bothered to look in):
"1. gyökeres, mélyreható, teljes;
2. erőszakos, kíméletlen, erélyes;
3. szélsőséges, szélső irányzatú, felforgató..."
Your understanding of the scope of this word and its modern use is limited to the first, whereas it has far wider, deeper and more affective meaning and connotations.
And as they say in the bastardised Hunglish that people speak in Hungary these days, everything else you say is complete 'marhaszar'! http://www.netlektor.hu/2010/03/15/marhasagok/

‘you mean TRANSLATED not TRANSLITERATED... transliteration means a transcription from one alphabet to another!

‘Transliteration’ is the representation of a letter or word of one language in the closest corresponding letter or word of another language. Or, if you like, transliteration is a word-for-word translation of a text, as distinct from its translation on a semantic level. I’m sure your advise on writing style is valuable.

(You might consider consulting a literate native speakker of Hungaring.)
Elle at March 19, 2010 6:44 PM
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Not a 'speakker of Balatonring'?

'I’m sure your advise on writing style is valuable.'

Damn! Please read 'advice', here. (Blush)

@ Viking

'Not a 'speakker of Balatonring'?'

OK. Should do nicely.

Damn again! That last post was mine.

@Elle,
Who wrote:\'‘Transliteration’ is the representation of a letter or word of one language in the closest corresponding letter or word of another language. Or, if you like, transliteration is a word-for-word translation of a text\'...
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No, I don\'t LIKE! :) Does Hungarian use a differen ALPHABET? Just admit you wanted to use the word \"Translate\" but preferred the one with more syllables because you thought it sounded more intelligent! ADMIT IT! :)
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transliterate [trænzˈlɪtəˌreɪt]
vb
(Linguistics) (tr) to transcribe (a word, etc., in one alphabet,) into corresponding letters of another alphabet the Greek word λογοσ can be transliterated as ``logos\'\'
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I surmise that I AM in fact better at verbal communication than you, so you shouldn\'t maybe be so sarcastic when you say \"I’m sure your advise SIC on writing style is valuable. \"
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Normally I would let this kind of thing slide, but you are so pompous pretending to be an expert on Etymology when your own posts are literally RIDDLED with errors. Have a sense of modesty occasionally, it might serve you better, people might not pile on to you so!

@ Cunning Linguist

As it happened, I did notice my ‘advise’ error and corrected it when I wrote accidentally as Anonymous: at March 19, 2010 8:06 PM. I corrected that too, in the post immediately below it. But by all means think as well of yourself as you like. It does not bother me at all.

Oh, and I forgot to say: try a bigger dictionary on 'transliterate'.

@ Cunning Linguist:

I think you should give elle a cunnilingus - maybe that might help her ...

Although, she's been described here as an old hag or something similar, you probably wouldn't enjoy it ...

@Elle,
All definitions I\'ve come across make clear the transLITERATION has to do with ALPHABETS. Obviously you like to write with dictionary in hand because you are always just at the bleeding edge of your vocabulary. Why not just use the words you already have in your head? (loose rattling sound). Just admit you used a word a little above your grade-level and we can leave it at that. The same way you owned up to the typo, it\'s no big deal. Just don\'t lie, please. \"Bigger dictionary\"....
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To Wolfi -- I would rather sit tied in a chair for eternity watching Jobbik rallies than go anywhere near that dried-up.... spinster! (TM)
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@anonymous:

Ok, it's difficult to converse (or do other things) with a gal who thinks that "sphere" is a latin word ...

@Elle (cont\'d) --
This should close the matter and I await your admitting you were wrong on this matter (hell will freeze over but I await anyway)...
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Elle wrote: \"Oh, and I forgot to say: try a bigger dictionary on \'transliterate\'.\"
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from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration
(the well known neo-liberal propaganda site WIKIPEDIA):
\"Also, transliteration should not be confused with translation, which involves a change in language while preserving meaning. Transliteration performs a mapping from one alphabet into another.\"
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COULD IT BE ANY MORE CLEAR YOU ARE WRONG? It\'s like the Wikipedia folks are crapping on top of your head!!!!!
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Would love to hear from ya! Let\'s see, I guess you\'ll just disappear from this thread, never answer and then when probed, say \"get a life, loser!\" or some other witty retort.
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A small diversification for some sensible comment by the erstwhile Zsigmond J.
"Hungary is not ready to adopt the euro and should focus on improving competitiveness through major tax cuts rather than maintaining its current austerity programme, the former Hungarian National Bank (MNB) governor Zsigmond Járai said last Tuesday."

Even though every single Jobbik person ever asked this question, has always denied it. And said they would never do such a thing
bobscountrybunker at March 19, 2010 11:03 AM
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How many have you asked and how was this documented?
Where are your evidences for the above statement?
(Viking doing a 'bob')
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And why should we trust anything a jobos state?
(Viking doing a Viking)

Viking. Less talking and more cooking. I'm famished.
(Nagyon éhes!)
Change the record and vent your spleen on the embezzlers in government now.
If Jobbik win seats in the next parliament we can all see how they fare.
Let us know who you support and why? Negative equity
puts you in the red and has no visible product unless you consider endless moaning and groaning about a party that has only 15% of the vote a plus?

@Elle: Oly gyökértelen alak vagy. I don't know, you have either completely lost touch with your roots or never really had them and spent so little time in Hungary or concerned with matters in Hungarian that you don't even know the difference.
Vándorló at March 19, 2010 7:55 PM

There was a time when it used to irritate me mű-whatever tell Hungarians that they are not Hungarians but lately I find it entertaining instead of irritating.
Take Vándorló, our expert on who is real and who is mű-magyar. He freely dispenses his “wisdom” about who is what nationality but unable to tell us if Lieberman, the racist, Nazi Russian Jew who wants to kick all the Palestinians out of Israel is a real or mű-israeli.
So much, talk about Jobbik and the Nazis. Anyone with at least one brain cell can tell that Jobbik is not Nazi. There are no Nazis in Hungary but there are many Communists, Jewish Communists. These people were members, and leaders of Communist party and these people have done horrible things against Hungarians.
What makes the Communist/Nazi analysis so interesting is that, Lendvai, Bajnai, Szekeres and other Jewish Communists in Hungary are in perfect harmony with the Jewish Nazis in Israel. The horrors they inflicted on Hungarians are very similar to the horrors they inflict on the Palestinians. They murder innocents by the thousand and steal all they have, including their homes and organs and declare themselves the victims of hate. How are those who murder and rob others victims? Can anyone explain that without using too much filth and obscenity?

Change the record and vent your spleen on the embezzlers in government now
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Let us know who you support and why?
Trojan at March 20, 2010 1:29 PM
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1) I do not see anyone supporting the Government here, so why would it be a need for one more 'mark'-type of poster?
Also, the Government will be replaced in less than 36 days and being a businessman I am not so interested in past performance, more what the new guys in the Government block promise to perform
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2) If you have read what I written so far this year it is MDF, even LMP can be interesting if they fare a better chance to come in to the next Parliament
That will be a tactical decision on my part, then the important thing at the moment (for me) is that we will have at least 4 parties in the next Parliament
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So now you tell us who you support?

I support the truth and myself. I do not put my trust in Hungarian political parties. I know who you supported anyway. But why don't you promote the party you support rather than castigate those you don't?
You have always accepted the cards you have been dealt. I know you have worked hard to keep your businesses up and running in this communist country. And you deserve credit for that.
Your political affiliations are misguided in someways and you need to update yourself in what is happening at the "present" time rather than wallowing in nostalgia. Politics may be a step too far for a semi-retired, tin-horned helmet.
Hope your cooking is better than your politics!?

Politics may be a step too far for a semi-retired, tin-horned helmet.
Hope your cooking is better than your politics!?
Trojan at March 21, 2010 11:42 AM
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Well, I let the professionals do the cooking

Well, well, well! The bastards are pulling their weight! Budaházy Gyuri collected 831 recommendation documents. He needed only 750 to be able to stand for election as an Independent. But the local branch of the Electoral Commission accepted the validity of only 640 of them. Gyuri has three days to appeal.
http://kuruc.info/r/52/56962/
(This is Elle writing.)

He needed only 750 to be able to stand for election as an Independent
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(This is Elle writing.)
Elle at March 21, 2010 5:18 PM
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Correct, 750 *valid* slips, 749
It is rather normal that slips are dismissed, just check Jobbik's complaint about some other party's slip were filled out with different pens
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The rule is that the person who signs the slip should fill it out fully and have a proper ID noted and all info should correlate with the official register of where people are living, so many things can go wrong there
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Amateurs, or just part of the Mouse-tactic?
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Maybe you should sign your posts in invisible ink, just to stop any one from signing your posts?

'750 *valid* slips'! Oh, I say! What an ingenious discovery!

Demo on Friday, come along all patriotic Hungarians
http://www.hvim.hu/hir/demonstracio-penteken-politikai-amnesztiaert

Demo on Friday
Law at May 13, 2010 4:01 PM
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Yes, they are expecting a "large scale" demo built on the "Ópusztaszer pact" where several Hungarian 'radical' right-wing groups promised to cooperate
Since Budahazy's arrest last June, Jobbik has been cold in action, hot in talks supporting Budahazy, so it will be interesting to see if Jobbik will include this Budahazy-demo into its 'Parliament Inaugural Show'

I see, we're in for another 4 years of senseless Jobbik bashing from the Viking gang. Yawn...

@Law

"Demo on Friday, come along all patriotic Hungarians
http://www.hvim.hu/hir/demonstracio-penteken-politikai-amnesztiaert"

I think I and many others would rather attend this one: A Köztársaságért! Date: Friday, May 14, 2010 Time: 5:00pm - 7:00pm Location: Vértanúk tere, Kossuth-tér / Parlament

SZÉLSŐJOBB ELLENES TÜNTETÉS - 2010. május 14-én pénteken 17.00-19.00-ig Budapest - VÉRTANÚK TERÉN, az új Országgyűlés első plenáris napján, amikor a Jobbik, az Új Magyar Gárda tagjai elmondják az országgyűlési képviselői esküjüket, amikor felesküdnek a Szent Koronára, Gárdista egyenruhában, mindezt a Harmadik Magyar Köztársaságban!

@Pete H

"SZÉLSŐJOBB ELLENES TÜNTETÉS"

You seem to have some mental issues, such as irrational fear of the boogeyman.
There's nothing more pathetic than your stupid demonstrations against imaginary enemies. Get real.

@Commonsense,

Seems my irrational fear is shared by the party in the super-majority, who call the Garda "repressive".

"Next to the police force there is no room for repressive organisations, whether they are called "a national guard or Hungarian guard," Szijjarto said on a TV2 programme."

From: http://www.politics.hu/20100513/fidesz-expects-magyar-garda-popularity-to-fall-with-new-government

@Pete H.

"Seems my irrational fear is shared by the party in the super-majority"

I understand why FIDESZ is trying to grab even more power. It's yet to be seen how their party rivalry will benefit the country. FIDESZ is apparently ready to sell out the country, and the buyers are uncomfortable with any party who may have the nation's best interest in mind.
Bashing the Guard is also a cheap way of keeping foreign "investors" and noisy minorities happy.
Hungary is in very bad shape, Orban should spend less time fighting Jobbik and more on coming up with a miracle.

@Nonsense:

Paranoia again ?

Who wants to "buy the country" ?

"The master race" ?

You sound too much like Law and LYNCH ...

@wolfi

"Who wants to "buy the country" ?"

Who's been buying the country?

Foreign investors, looking for bargains in a corrupt environment. Taking advantage of a debt-ridden country. Hungary didn't have the opportunities to amass its own stolen capital, everything is for sale at any price. Soon we'll be lining up for underpaid jobs at foreign companies, so we can pay the rent to our foreign landlords and buy our crappy food in foreign owned supermarkets.

The leader of the chosen people didn't make a secret of it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL4Cu-K17vE

but they are not the only ones investing in property but not in improving living conditions.
Hungary is yet another victim of the out of control global capitalist system. Believe it or not.

@ Common,

Well yes and no. Business is business...nothing personal. The people of Hungary, at the end of the day, voted in MSZP over and over again.

To an outsider, that says that you agree with what your government is doing OR you (the voters of Hungary) don't care enough to pay attention.

@commonNonsense:

Sinc you're so clever, you should know that this nonsense about "having bought Hungary Poland and so on" has been "discussed" here already months ago ...

About "buying" (in) Hungary:

I sometimes wonder who paid for all those nice cars, computers and tvs that my neighbours have - none of which was produced by Hungarian companies ...

@Common - which major MNE invested in Hungarian property solely for profits, or got a bargain for a manufacturing plant in Hungary? I'm just curious.

"Bashing the Guard is also a cheap way of keeping foreign "investors" and noisy minorities happy."
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...aren't Jobbik supporters just a noisy minority? Why should they be listened to any more than anyone else?

Just remembered as I fetched my wife from the beautician in Héviz:

Most of the better and exclusive beauticians in Hungary use cosmetics products from GIGI - which is an Israeli company ...

There must be a kind of conspiracy here, taking all beautiful women somewhere or whatever ...

Maybe we should ask Pava to translate the Hebrew information for using these lotions and creams, surely there is something sinister going on ...

@Nonsense,

Tell me how is a small country with few natural resources going to better its situation without foreign investment? Does Hungary have enough of its own capital to improve the situation? Please don't tell me "agriculture". Even if Hungary 2x's its output, it will still be a small part of the GDP.