According to tradition, ever since the system change, the youngest MP in the Hungarian parliament is asked to read the oath of office statement that other parliamentarians then repeat. The only hitch is that in this parliamentary cycle, according to stop.hu, the youngest MP is 23-year old Dóra Dúró (pictured), who just happens to belong to Jobbik. According to the portal, the oldest MP traditionally asks the youngest MP to read the statement, but when János Horváth of Fidesz (the current oldest member) was asked about this, he gave a vague response, and the portal wrote that Fidesz might be planning to buck tradition in order to prevent a Jobbik MP from being the one to read the oath. Maybe they’re just waiting to see what Gábor Vona will wear.
Parties squirm as parliamentary tradition dictates Jobbik MP will lead oath of office
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I’m in love, this girl is a sexy
The youngest MP in Hungary is 23? That is SO young.
…not that that is a bad thing necessarily. I just
hope she is a mature 23. I also hope she gets the
respect she deserves as an MP from the others in the
house, and can cope with the inevitable put-downs,
sexist remarks and other inappropriate
comments…like the one above from Law.
and she speaks as beautifully as she looks. check out some of the numerous interviews she have been giving recently on tv – she is more than just a pretty face:
check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oYy4TMoY5I&feature=player_embedded#!
who wouldnt want her reading the oath? and yes, i too hope she is mature, because there is nothing the left hates more than a successful conservative female politician (sarah palin, pauline hanson) – prepare for media abuse!
she is a major asset for jobbik, who seem to have recruited the cream of hungary’s university youth movements.
@cinaed
I quite understand how you must feel if this is the witch you admire
http://m.blog.hu/jo/jobbegyenes/image/lendvaiproli.jpg
jobbik, who seem to have recruited the cream of hungary’s university youth movements
Paul at May 14, 2010 12:25 PM
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Well, at least the penis-pumping part
It is interesting that a few of Jobbik’s MPs come from these political broiler machines
Jobbik was support to be different, right?
A grass-root organisation, not filled with these political broilers?
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No wonder the previous Queen of Jobbik, Morvai stays in Brussels, she could not stand the beauty contest
Isn’t the point here that the parliamentary oath of allegiance originally ended with the phrase, “so help me God,” and that this was dropped from modern secularist motives; but Jobbik requirea that it nevertheless be uttered by their own MPs?
So what the Fidesz (Fidesz-KDNP!) members are afraid of happening is for Dúró closing the oath with the traditional, “Isten engem úgy segéljen!” having this resoundingly repeated by the Jobbik caucus only for the other parties’ conspicuous silence to be broadcast on TV nationwide…
I might be wrong Zoltán, but I think this is what is mostly at issue here.
@Bob,
Not sure if that’s the case. If you saw when Bajnai took the oath to be prime minister a year ago, it wasn’t part of the oath but he added it nonetheless. I think it’s just very much the fact that they don’t want a Jobbik MP to lead the oath.
@Paul,
“because there is nothing the left hates more than a successful conservative female politician (sarah palin, pauline hanson) – prepare for media abuse!”
Murkowski, Snowe, Collin’s, Whitman, etc. – successful conservative women I may disagree with, but I do respect. Palin and Backman, complete idiots I neither agree with or respect.
I wouldn’t call Mrs Palin a “successful” politician.
She gave up (or had to give up ?) her job as governor and was very unsuccessful as a candidate for vice president …
The only thing she seems to be successful at is selling herbook(s), but I’m not sure about that.
If you want to have some fun with her, look here:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/sarah-palins-speaking-demands,17287/
PS: The Onion is my favorrite US newspaper, then comes the Huffington Post (you see I’m a damn neo-liberal …)
@peteh
I think Sarah Palin is the best thing that happened to the Dems and the worst for the Republicans.
She divided the party and then took off to pursue
a more lucrative job than politics.
She is also the best thing that happened to Tina Faye.
I just discovered Joyce Behar’s show on late night
HLN. Hilarious. Another SP “fan” (not)
@peteh: Just FYI, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, and
Christie Whitman are Republicans, but to call them
“conservatives” just because they are Republicans is
like calling Southern “Blue Dog” Democrats
“liberals” just because they are Democrats. There’s
a difference…
This girl looks so sweet, very pretty…
@wolfi
“The Onion is my favorrite US newspaper”
Are we talking about the same The Onion?
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheOnion
We cannot possibly agree, so how did this happen?
When did you grow a sense of humor?
Funny overrides all, serious people suck.
…have been busy tonight, so haven’t been able to
keep up. I just read Paul’s post though about
Pauline Hanson being a successful politician.
You’re kidding right? I mean, there’s a catch or
some witty come back there…isn’t there?
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Hanson was a fish and chip shop owner who rose to
‘power’ by cashing in on racist, xenophobic
bullshit. Her most famous moment was during an
interview on national TV, she was asked if she was
xenophobic, to which, blank faced and clearly
dumbfounded, she uttered through clenched teeth
“please explain?” Ever since then, ‘please
explain’ said in the same matter has become an
expression of its own when mocking someone who is
clearly as dumb as a box of hammers. In the end,
her party dumped her because her antics just got
so embarrassing. Successful? Hardly. At her high
point, she was a rabid extreme right looney, but
ended in ignominy. Palin is an intellectual giant
compared to our dear Pauline, and THAT is a scary
thought.
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Incidentally, I knew the ‘one nation’ party rep in
our electorate.He was also a gun-toting redneck
who used to go rampaging around the countryside
shooting wild animals.He once got so drunk he lost
his camping-trailer in the bush…and once nearly
killed himself trying to shoot a snake that got
into his car…while he was in the car, DRIVING!
Yep, these are the best examples to support your
argument.
@nonsense (and anyone else interested):
To really shock you: I’ve had a subscription to Mad Magazine for more than 40 years – that’s how I learned English/American …
“Funny overrides all, serious people suck.”
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gosh, you’re not really in the right place if
you’re in Hungary. Just the other day, Law was
waxing lyrical about how prefers the sullen
‘honesty’ of Hungarians…I still maintain that
sustaining a bad mood can be just as much a
dishonest thing as “stupid chirpy optimism” (Red
Dwarf)
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It seemed to me that a great deal of Hungarian
humour is made up of acidic sarcasm and
“karorvendes”. Personally, I think that the
ability to laugh at oneself (not in a cruel or
self-demeaning way) is one of the keys to good
humour and to a successful life.
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There is a time and a place to be serious, but
yes, being serious all the time is just not a
great way to ‘make friends and influence people’.
@Cináed
“you’re not really in the right place if
you’re in Hungary.”
Hungarians are pretty good at making fun of their own misery. If we end up losing (most of the time), we don’t get mad, we don’t get even. We come up with jokes and laugh it off.
Jokes will not solve any problems, but help survive hard times. Maybe we should get mad more often…
Good point common sense, unfortunatly Cinaed is good at judging other people but forgets to look at himself first and how hypocritcal his own background is.
i see all the lefties have dragged the conversation away from the real point here – that duro should have read the oath (but didnt). what a disgrace.
as for palin/hanson – i was referring to the wave of hatred and abuse directed at both in the mainstream media. the kind of abuse that duro will surely one day encounter. hanson got into the parliament as an independent, cinaed – ill call that successful. id like to see you do that! she was later jailed for a year on FALSE charges of “electoral fraud”, by judges under pressure from both major political parties – regardless of your political persuasion, if you believe in democracy you must have found this disgusting. palin also gets more than her fair share of personal abuse (eg. unfounded allegations about her disabled son – disgusting), especially from feminist types who like to see women do well – unless they are conservatives, in which case any vile abuse goes.
i hope hungarians enjoyed watching János Horváth read the oath. it shows how arrogant fidesz have already become, that they would do such a thing.
Isn’t the point here that the parliamentary oath of allegiance originally ended with the phrase, “so help me God,” and that this was dropped from modern secularist motives
bobscountrybunker at May 14, 2010 2:19 PM
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Not sure if that’s the case. If you saw when Bajnai took the oath to be prime minister a year ago, it wasn’t part of the oath but he added it nonetheless
Zoltan at May 14, 2010 2:53 PM
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This is why I will never become an ‘Hungarian’
Either you read out the oath, or not
The full out, in the exact order of the words, or you do not
You do not skip any parts
You do not add any parts
You just read the oath as it is the legal requirement
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You all forgot how it was when the current US President was sworn in?
Some problems with the oath and he had to redo it, just to 100% sure not to be legally challenged
But in Hungary you can obviously add what you want, like
‘The Devil will guide me in my pursuit to rob the Hungarian people and sell all their land and water to foreigners and fuck god’
This would then not make the oath invalid?
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So, did the Jobbik group of MPs add anything to the oath when it was read out (just so I can challenge them in court on Monday and have them thrown out)?
I missed that on the TV-show, busy with other things
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Is there anything more hypocrite than any US-politician ending their speech with
‘God Bless America!’?
Why would God have a sense of NationState-building?
US-politicians do not have that, so maybe it is a ‘Godly’ thing in the end..
@Viking
“Is there anything more hypocrite than any US-politician ending their speech with
‘God Bless America!’?”
A large number of Americans are still religious. That’s why presidents have to pretend to pray.
People like that stuff.
What they didn’t like was when congressman Keith Ellison took the oath of office on the Koran instead of the Bible. It’s quite offensive in a predominantly christian and jewish country, at war with radical islam.
I have no use for religion and holy books, but until we find something better for simple folks to believe in, we may need it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o
“Above all, brothers, do not swear oaths by heaven, by earth, or by any other object. Instead, let your “Yes” mean yes and your “No” mean no! Otherwise, you may fall under condemnation.” James 5:12
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I don’t need God’s help to keep my word.That’s my responsibility…or as my Grampop (RIP) used to say “A man’s word is his bond.” Whether someone swears on this book or that book or uses this God or that God doesn’t make a bit of difference.What matters is whether or not they do what they said they would do, or if they can’t, that there is a bloody good reason why not.
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Paul.The charges against Pauline were wrong and what happened to her was shameful.She had already self-destructed anyway though and all that was needed was to wait for her to douse her own fire, which she did quite ably.As far as her election…well, no-one here is interested in a political analysis of QLD or the Ipswich area.Sufficed to say that in a political landscape as boring as Australia’s, sometimes a bit of colour seems somehow more brilliant than it really is.Me run for parliament?First, I don’t have delusions of grandeur, and second, before I attempted any such thing, I would want to know what I was doing…or at least learn the names of the issues I believed in.
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You are right though about some of the horrid and unnecessary things said and done to Pauline.She was an idiot and a facade, but she wasn’t evil.I also respect her for being able to laugh about some of it now in hindsight.
Re: my previous post. I forget to say with the Scripture verse how ironic it is that people swear on a book and to a God, who’s clear instructions say “Don’t swear on this book or to this God.”
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After a lengthy conversation with someone once about the problems plaguing the Christian church in Australia, someone said to me once “Well then, what advice would you have?” My response was simple.
“Read your Bible.”
NAKBA 1948–never forget
@Paul
Thanks for the good news!
Despite the denial of Dúró, the Jobbik contingent made its presence felt alright. And in a very noble way…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wINNo4KeF-A
(For the uninitiated this is the Székely Himnusz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sz%C3%A9kely_Himnusz , and the Jobbik caucus started singing it at the end of the founding session. Note the MSZP / LMP lot scurrying out, and how some of the Fidesz MPs can’t help themselves but join in. History will consider this to be the parliament opening’s defining moment, not a waistcoat.)
@bobscountrybunker at May 15, 2010 2:01 PM
Most or all of Fidesz MPs joined the Jobbik MPs in either standing or singing the Szekely Himnusz. All the Hungarian MPs sang or stood together.
Jobbik provided the moral standard that the Parliament very much needs.
Actually, according to Index, the LMP waited for the Szekely himnusz to be over before leaving the room.
Jobbik set the moral standard? What by having Vona break
the law during the swearing in?
If Jobbiks faction leader swears to uphold the law while
boasting of breaking the law, with this false oath he will be
representing untruthfulness in the new parliament. (Solyom)
I think you got it backward.
@Pete H.
Don’t confuse moral standards with bad laws.
The previous regime had no moral standards, but it had the power to create idiotic laws.
Hungary needs radical changes, you don’t get there by obeying anti-Hungarian “laws”. Fuck them.
@Incontinent Sense, “Hungary needs radical changes, you don’t get there by obeying anti-Hungarian “laws”.”
So, you are not only a nationalist, you are an anarchist too.
So, who get’s to decide which laws are anti-Hungarian? The party in the minority? Or the ruling party that received the majority of the votes from the Hungarian people.
Another Jobbo demonstrating that the Jobbos are the anti-Democratic party.
You are a fine spokesperson for the “moral” core of Jobbik.
@Pete H.
Vest = Anarchy.
Pete H. = Simpleton
She’s already married.