Prime Minister Viktor Orban attended a celebration marking Independence Day at a historic building of the US Embassy in Budapest’s castle district on Thursday.
In his address, Orban praised Americans’ love of freedom and in reference to the Declaration of Independence, spoke highly of the fundamental and “unquestionable” faith of US citizens in building a country where residents are born equal and live in freedom, and have the unrestrcited right to the pursuit of happiness.
Orban drew a comparison between Hungary and the US, and said that the two countries shared that fundamental faith. This faith had once enabled Hungary to ensure protection to the rest of Europe threatened by the Ottoman Empire, and it has always helped the country survive even the gravest tragedies of its history, he said.
“We, the people of Central Europe and especially of Hungary, have always respected the American ideal of freedom, because we had to fight for our freedom and independence many times, often against heavy odds,” Orban said.
Anyone hear his accent? He sounds like a robot. Best to stick to Hungarian, like a true patriot. Only neo-lib scum speak English.
This corny joke is circulating. Very likely to be true come autumn:
John Sr is on his way to the pawn-brokers to trade in his TV.
On the way he bumps into Orbán, who says:
- John Sr, listen don’t trade in your TV, ‘cos from next Monday there’s gonna be some crackin’ telly!
- Really?! – asks the old-un – what kind of shows, son?
- Monday I’ll be on.
Tuesday my wife,
Wednesday the family,
Thursday my Party.
Friday-Saturday-Sunday – the people!
So the old-un goes home, where the wife asks why he’s not pawned the TV. To which John Sr, says:
-Well I met Orbán on the way and he said there’s gonna be some great films on, so I brought it back.
-Well what kind of things?
- Monday: “The Idiot”
Tuesday: “The Taming of the Shrew”
Wednesday: “The Dysfunctional Family”
Thursday: “Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves”
Friday-Saturday-Sunday: “Les Misérables”!
p.s. Wednesday was actually “Married… with Children”, but the Hungarian title is better, so I changed it. Monday refers to Dostoyevsky’s work.
Here’s the original:
Józsi bácsi elmegy a zaciba, hogy beadja a TV-t.
Útközben találkozik az Orbán Vityával. Mondja neki az Orbán:
- Józsi bácsi hát ne adja be a TV-t a zaciba, mert jövo héttol nagyon jó musorok lesznek benne!
- Tényleg?! – kérdezi az öreg – és milyen musorok fiam?
- Hétfon én leszek,
kedden a feleségem,
szerdán a családom,
csütörtökön a pártom!
Péntek-Szombat-Vasárnap – az emberek!
Na az öreg hazamegy, az asszony meg kérdezi tole, hogy miért nem adta be a TV-t a zaciba? Mire Józsi bácsi:
- Találkoztam az Orbánnal , és azt mondta, hogy jó musorok lesznek, inkább visszahoztam!
- És milyen musorok lesznek ?
- Hétfon: A Félkegyelmu,
kedden: A makrancos Hölgy,
szerdán: A rém rendes család,
csütörtökön: Ali Baba és a 40 rabló,
péntek-szombat-vasárnap: A Nyomorultak
Vandorlo,
You Hungarian extremists are an amusing group. You talk about “neo-liberal” scum. Guess what, neo liberal scum made us AngloSaxons the greatest power on the Earth.
The Hungarians have severely hurt themselves by not privatising and liberalising their markets. You have zoombie state-owned companies and lots of small and antiquated businesses that have no possibility of competing against foreign competition.
Time to wake up and smell la merde …
@American in Budapest: You are having a clinical sarcasm radar malfunction – adjust with caution, or call for medical assistance.
But seriously, the Anglo-Saxon gift bollocks is so deeply patronising to those upon we have bestowed our favours.
The C20th is over, that wonderful snapshot of history is dead and gone. This is a different world and the ‘gifts’ we bestowed no longer repay is with their favours.
There is nothing anyone has to be thankful for to the US, UK, France, Portugal, Belgium, Spain…. for their Anglo-Saxon prowess. You do sound like a mentally crippled racist bigot – just the kind of person I expect you hate.
Do you remember the classic Stanley Milgram experiments on racism, that showed that when white-liberal-Anglo-Saxons thought they were being monitored they gave other ethnic groups lower electric shocks, but when they were told they weren’t being monitored higher. You are one of those. You don’t actually feel the stuff you talk about, because you do think *your people* are superior.
I’m not thankful for your world.
As for your rant about Hungary and Hungarians you might want to work on that and put some structure, original thought and even some factual knowledge in there. It might make it passable reading. As it is, it is worthless opinion.
p.s. I’ve never studied scatology, so its relationship to Hungarian economics eludes me; but do please enlighten us, if you are the expert on all things defecated.
Yank out of place in Budapest@ Vandorlo an Hungarian extremist! LOL,He has been called many things but never that.You need to get your head out of your arse and look around, ‘not privatising and liberalism’? Too much of both everywhere to be honest.
PS Vandorlo and I rarely see eye to eye,and he does not need me to defend him,but as fellow Englishman,it amuses me to see the ramblings of a ‘know fuck all’arrogant yank talk whilst his own country goes down the shit hole faster day by day.
If you still can’t see that then open your eyes,and stop making enemies out of possible friends.
Hey, Vándorló:
Maybe American in Budapest meant in his diatribe the resident mü#magyars here and those ex-commie politicians including those who are taking over now …
I’m sure he wasn’t addressing you …
@Fraidy Cat
W-T-F?
Quote.
Hey, Vándorló:
I’m sure he wasn’t addressing you …
wolfi at July 3, 2010 6:34 PM
Unquote.
Quote.
Vandorlo,
You Hungarian extremists are an amusing group. American in Budapest at July 3, 2010 6:02 PM
Unquote.
You prove your profound powers of intellect again genius. To me it’s perfectly clear what American in Budapest was doing. Namely, clearly demonstrating his nationality by showing a complete inability to detect irony.
Bobs. The “irony” comment might be true. But American in Budapest has some grasp on reality.
He knows that doing business in Hungary is challenging to say the least.
Politicians and bureaucrats of the communist type still hold sway here and pretend that they are democratic stalwarts.
I know that there is a struggle among posters on this site to confirm who has the biggest dick/fanny.
Strangely enough, individual protagonists often agree with the general sentiment that they want to see Hungary and its people succeed but have different ideas about how to go about it.
PS. Vándorló. Very good send up. The TV menu about sums up everything.
“A day in the Life….” Orban’s pantomime!
Orban drew a comparison between Hungary and the US, and said that the two countries shared that fundamental faith. This faith had once enabled Hungary to ensure protection to the rest of Europe threatened by the Ottoman Empire
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Fuck, is this ‘Christian Week’ or something?
It seems like the People In Power has nothing else to do than to peddle a ‘Christian’ Agenda
So, what should we make of this this ‘Christian’ Thing:
- It was OK to kill the American Natives?
They were pagans anyway, so who cares?
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- The reason why the Ottomans could invade Hungary was that the Magyar Noblemen thought they should live like the European Noblemen at that time (and which the Magyars made a living out of robbing, with essentially the same tactic as the Ottomans used)
So the Magyars becoming ‘European’ made them a push-over for the Ottomans. Europe had to assemble a Common European Effort, not only the Magyars at that time, to push back the Ottomans
So, what has Orban to be proud of?
Orban must love the taste of american cock! Biggest suck up speech ever and to compare Hungary to America? LOL! Yea, you just keep sucking that cock Mr.Orban…
American kolbasz is appealing to most countries because it usually has millions of dollars included in the recipe.
Blair couldn’t get enough. Bush served up loads of the stuff but forgot to include the spondulux.
We all become whores for a fast buck sooner or later. Why should Cuddly Orban Viktor be any different? There’s fuck all in his frying pan at the minute. Andras Simor has seen to that.
I’ve heard that the US has rejected Hungary’s application to become the 51st state. They said it would be too much trouble to put another star on the Flag. We may still be eligible for Puerto Rican status or more likely Israeli Territory.
Happy July 4th.
It would be nice to have our own Independence Day…
Hungary without EU, NATO, Israeli agents, MAZSIHISZ, OCÖ, and the likes. As long as we elect politicians who are willing to sell out the country to those, we have not much hope for improvements. We cannot blame the parasites for feeding on us if we do nothing to get rid of them.
“We, the people of Central Europe and especially of Hungary, have always respected the American ideal of freedom”
LOL…so Orban’s rapid, corrupt centralisation of power in the past 5 weeks is based on the Founding Father’s desire to maintain transparent, decentralised power…Jeebus wept.
I hope more people start seeing through this facade. Sooner the better.
Freedom in Hungary, 2010:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLlBSSaiuEs
Freedom in Hungary, 2010
Common Sense at July 4, 2010 9:38 PM
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So you think it is terrible that these people are allowed to demonstrate their limited intelligence in public by dressing up in army fatigue?
Or is it good?
“So you think it is terrible that these people are allowed to demonstrate”
No, dummy.
It is terrible that these people are NOT allowed to demonstrate in peace. They were terrorized by the fascist storm troopers (police).
“dressing up in army fatigue?”
I don’t believe in enforcing any kind of public dress code as long as it’s not as obscene as a gay “pride” parade.
I don’t believe in enforcing any kind of public dress code as long as it’s not as obscene as a gay “pride” parade.
Common Sense at July 5, 2010 3:02 AM
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And wearing military combat dress and gas-masks in public spaces in 30 degrees Celsius is “not as obscene as a gay “pride” parade”?
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I see you now take the ‘bob’-approach to paramilitary political organizations (or they are supposed not to be paramilitary then they forgot their guns at home?)
It is all about dress-code, not about what they symbolize
The two of you (two?) must really think the rest of the world is rather stupid, who cannot see through the dress-code and discover the not so hidden message behind setting up the same organization under different name and “dress-code”
@Viking,
Lets just stop the bus and back up a bit there Spanky…have you ever seen a man in a yellow thong, who should not be wearing a yellow thong? Like my neighbor across the street…hm-mm? Now try and explain that away to a 5 year old.
“Wearing military combat dress and gas-masks in 30 C”…I’ll take that any ol’ day of the week, as long as the “boys” were covered.
Now try and explain that away to a 5 year old
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I’ll take that any ol’ day of the week, as long as the “boys” were covered
justasking at July 5, 2010 8:25 AM
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I, my wife and one of our children were out yesterday, Sunday, driving around a specific area to find any places out for sale
We turn into this small road, which ends up in a very scenic landscape, but there is a car parked in the end of this street. The car has all doors open (it is a hot day), but when we come closer I can see one, very ‘uncovered’ male collecting his clothes trying to hide behind the car
My wife can see some naked woman from her viewpoint, also hiding behind the car
How do we explain that?
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Around Budapest you do not need to rent any porn-movies, it is all delivered in front of your eyes for free. You just need to take the dog for a walk in any wooded area and if you not will be screwed, you can at least watch some, mostly handy work going on
But this behavior is of course all according to the Local Church, as long as both sexes are involved and no problem if money changes hands in these local variants on ‘Love Story’
What is a problem is though these people cannot clean after themselves, so the places are full of used wet-wipes, toilette-paper, but not so many condoms. I suppose they want to hide everything for their Hungarian wifes
Viking,
to be honest it is very refreshing to see that
normal hungarians engage in “sex in the car”.
Afterall the weather is fine,the woods are green and the girls are gorgeous (most of them). So what
is your problem.You’re are disturbed by the fact
they leave some garbage behind??
Have a look at what kind of garbage is left behind
in his forum.I prefer a few paper wipes in the woods.
So what is your problem
judas at July 5, 2010 11:38 AM
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The problem is the constant double standard/morale
It is OK to cheat on your wife with whores or mistresses in public spaces, but it is not OK to celebrate something that is performed by a minority, even if that is done honestly and without cheating
But maybe I had too much of a Lutheran upbringing to feel at home with this double standard and false moral
“double standard and false moral”
Gays change partners more often than underwear.
They have the urge to be as obscenely annoying as possible in public. They have sex on top of cars in West Village. By what standard are they better than normal people?
@Whoever!
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“is your problem.You’re are disturbed by the fact
they leave some garbage behind??” …Judas
“done honestly and without cheating”…Viking
People! What am I missing here! Is this what we have been reduced too? Have we become that desensitized to public exhibitions? Regardless who it’s done by and who is consenting?
You know what I would have done Viking if I had stumbled across that couple? I would have called them a couple of f@cking pigs and told them to get a room.
Then I would have turned to my son and said “If I ever find out that you ever treated a woman like that, I will cut off your balls regardless of your age.
If I was with my daughter, I would have turned to her and said ” Do you think so little of yourself to allow a man to treat you so disrespectfully?”
You tell your kids if you have respect for yourself and for your partner, you keep it private. What you do behind closed doors and with toys is up to you…as long as it’s behind closed doors.
That’s how you explain it. Age appropriate of course
“Then I would have turned to my son and said “If I ever find out that you ever treated a woman like that, I will cut off your balls regardless of your age.”
Glad I’m not your son. I once had sex in a Volkswagen under the Brooklyn Bridge. It was a long time ago, no one was looking and the girl was very consenting. Passion can strike anywhere, anytime. Young males are programmed by God or nature to think with their other head when it comes to girls. Half of Americans were conceived on the back seat of daddy’s car. It’s fine as long as no one can see you. I sure wouldn’t think of doing anything remotely obscene on Andrassy ut in broad daylight. Big difference.
@ Common,
“Gays change partners more often than underwear” …Common
Actually, I know heterosexuals, both male and female, who do the same-thing. It’s not Gay exclusive
“It’s fine as long as no one can see you”…Common
So, does that mean it’s okay to steal if you don’t get caught?
“They have sex on top of cars in West Village”…Common
On Top of a car or inside a car underneath a bridge…what’s the difference? Just means lack of self control.
“Glad I’m not your son”…Common
I’m sure they’re are worse Mothers than me.
@Vándorló: “[Orbán should]stick to Hungarian, like a true patriot. Only neo-lib scum speak English.” Come on Ván, Orbán’s a nationalist like Obama is a socialist. He is a Soros sponsored, Oxford educated SZDSZ spawn, Kun Béla clone Quisling. Or at best part Quisling part realist but ‘right-wing’ or ‘nationalist’ he ain’t. A lot of people that know what they are talking about like the ‘new Orbán’ though so it’s a bit confusing. But even if he’s not a puppet he is the president of a banana republic which means that in important matters he will do as he is told like he appointed Shit, I mean Schmitt. “Tuesday my wife, Wednesday the family…” Wednesday my family… So, who is better in Hungarian politics? Or international politics. Who could be an example to us? What party, what politician, what society/’system?’
@Viking: “The reason why the Ottomans could invade Hungary was…” that Fortunatus/’Szerencsés János’took off with the treasury and without funds King Louis II couldn’t mount a successful defense. After the Hungarian army was defeated at Mohács Fortunatus’ fellow ‘Jews’ presented the keys of Buda to Suleiman the Magnificent who generously rewarded them by appointing them defterdars and tax collectors over the defeated Hungarian people… Nothing ever changes in Hungary, does it?
Come on Ván, Orbán’s a nationalist like Obama is a socialist.
Pávaszem at July 7, 2010 8:36 PM
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I love it how people speak in awed tones of Orbán being edcated at the University of Oxford. To my knowledge he spent all of a term there. Which given their peculiarities, is a grand total of eight weeks.
@Viking: “The reason why the Ottomans could invade Hungary was…” that Fortunatus/’Szerencsés János’took off with the treasury and without funds King Louis II couldn’t mount a successful defense
Pávaszem at July 7, 2010 8:45 PM
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You speak about who was cheating who in the end
I speak about the decades before that when the Hungarian society and Defense Strategy changed from basically being a lighter version of the Ottoman forces, but very movable
This was how the Magyars defended the Southern border, by *not* building big forts/castles and sit in there and wait for the attacks. They met them at the fields when patrolling the border areas, stopping the Ottomans from building advanced bases. Their reach was about 50 km from the base
What happened was that the Magyars, who regularly ransacked the small kingdoms in today’s Bayern successfully, using the same basic tactic of the Ottomans, changed into the more European tactic at the time:
Big, very slow moving units, that the Ottomans could run around and split how they wanted
When the Magyars used their traditional way of fighting they normally won, when they left it and adopted to their European victims more luxury lifestyle with big castles, they lost to the Ottomans
Who did what the last week is hardly interesting, it is why they ended up in that position is more interesting
Converting to Christianity helped the Magyars in their downfall, but I suppose that is not allowed to say in today’s Christian Hungary
@bobs: “awed tones…” It’s more shock than awe with me… Orbán is clever though. But, he ain’t what he pretends to be. In an independent Hungary Zétényi would be PM or at least president. As for his being educated at the famously corrupt ‘In March 2002 two Oxford fellows resigned after allegations that they had offered a place to an undercover reporter in return for a donation of £300,000. Rev John Platt, chaplain of Pembroke, and Mary-Jane Hilton, head of fund-raising, apparently attended a taped meeting where the offer was made to a journalist, posing as a wealthy banker father of a fictitious son’ http://bit.ly/axoDkI Pembroke college, I don’t think he studied anything. He simply can’t function off his turf in or outside Hungary.
@Viking: “You speak about who was cheating who in the end I speak about the decades before …” The ‘Jews’ remained defterdars, compradors and tax collectors for the duration of the 150 year Ottoman rule and longer since serving the occupier has become one of their traditional roles in Hungary. (None of their other traditional roles are any more lovable either…) What people don’t understand is that they have never been victims. They have always been victimizers. As for the decades before Mohács we were exhausted not by Christianity (that was an essential ingredient of King Mathias’ rule, the golden age preceding the Mohács tragedy when the Hungary was the most advanced and powerful nation of Europe) but by pandemics and famine that led to the peasant rebellion of Dózsa (oláh paraszt) which threw Hungary into utter anarchy just when the Bishop of Esztergom returned from Rome with the Holy Father’s charter proclaiming the crusade against the Turks. “the Magyars, who regularly ransacked the small kingdoms…” A few hundred years earlier before we adopted Christianity… ” their European victims” We were actually Western Europe’s victims with the French-Ottoman alliance in which the French actively incited the Turks to attack Hungary. More plus ça change, yes?