Around eighty members of the Hungarian National Guard peacefully protested at a police station in Bekescsaba, a town in southeast Hungary, after a Guard event at a nearby farm on Saturday was cancelled after police allegedly found hand grenades there.
An MP of the nationalist Jobbik party, Gergo Tamas Samu, told MTI at the demonstration that if the police had indeed found hand grenades then they must have been placed by there by national security officers.
Police had informed him that the sports event of the Hungarian National Guard on Saturday had to be called off because “objects appearing to be grenades” were found. He was informed that police had called in explosives experts to inspect the devices.
A spokesperson of the Bekes County police headquarters told MTI that they had been alerted by an unknown caller at about 7am that explosives were present at a Bekescsaba farm. Upon arriving at the site, police found that preparations were under way for an event. They told the organisers that the area had to be searched and people were asked to leave. During the search police said that they found devices. Police will announce later on Saturday the nature of the devices found once experts have concluded an examination, the spokesman said.
“Police will announce later on Saturday the nature of the devices found once experts have concluded an examination, the spokesman said.”
@Bobs,
Well you might see the humour in all of this…but I don’t.
Typical Hungarian attitude, focus on non-important/ridiculous issues and ignore what really needs to be addressed.
@justasking
We call the place Abszúrdisztán for a reason, sweetheart.
@ Bobs,
Touche Darling!
“Unknown caller” might have planted the “devices” himself. Find unknown caller, ask him some questions.
hmmm, why do I doubt that there was any call placed at all?
@ Bob
I understand there is an “Alliance of European National Movement” and there are several European countries with their own version of JOBBIK
Of these countries which political party has its own para-military group like the Hungarian National Guard ?
The article above is rather mysterious concerning whatever it is the police found.
Paragraph 1 – “police allegedly found hand grenades there.”
# 2 – “if the police had indeed found hand grenades then they must have been placed by there by national security officers. ” – still hypotetical if the word “if” used
# 3 – “objects appearing to be grenades” were found. ” – “appearing” is not definite
#4 “During the search police said that they found devices” – still uncertain, maybe they were fireworks for a celebration (or not)
Then – “. Police will announce later on Saturday the nature of the devices found once experts have concluded an examination, the spokesman said.”
It’s Monday night (Tuesday middle of the night in
Hungary) – So, what was found?
Pull pin: does it go bang?
Apparently if you are in the Hungarian equivalent of CSI it takes an entire seven days (from Saturday to Saturday) to do this
bobscountrybunker at July 26, 2010 5:32 PM
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You are doubling as Stan nowadays?
1) It is illegal to have hand-grenades, in any way or form. That is the law (we know you think it is not for your kind)
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2) In either cases it is important, due to legal punishment that should follow, to determine if these grenades are/were ‘live’ and could actually explode (can be ‘live’ but disabled, etc)
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3) You are the typical kind of person who would jump up and down on all politics.hu sites if the Police had followed your advice and destroyed the evidence material. What constipation-story would you, Stan and Law not make out of that?
Bigger than some Israeli jets practicing touch-and-go on Ferihegy maybe?
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4) How bring a case to court if you destroyed the ultimate evidence material full of fingerprints?
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If we concentrate on the article, I can only agree with
olga at July 27, 2010 2:29 AM
The article is not very clear and should need an Editorial update
Dirty tricks and politics.
They are trying the “explosives” thingy now.
Common sense tells you that it must have been planted by the enemies of the Guard.
Either to blow them up, or to make them look like some terrorists who play with bombs. It’s been tried before, turned out to be a major embarrassment for Draskovics.
What’s next?
It’s been tried before, turned out to be a major embarrassment for Draskovics
Common Sense at July 27, 2010 10:28 AM
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No, the Draskovics-thing was a video that was claimed to show the arrested people’s activities, but it was not. It has never figured in the Prosecutor’s material, but it had been found on one of the computer’s belonging to the arrested. At the time it is questionable haw much Prosecutors and the Ministry knew about the origin of the film itself
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No one has proven that any explosives etc has been planted among the arrested people around Budahazy. The President of Jobbik Bicske for example was charged with supplying ammunition to this group (50 bullets), but that must of course be wrong, because no ‘bob’-Nationalist can do wrong
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The case is, the video was found on one of the arrested computers, and had the arrested person been a Muslim, we would all know why the video was there
Viking, you need help.
“The case is, the video was found on one of the arrested computer”
I have lots of stuff on my computer, including this video. Hard disk space is cheap, people end up with tons of junk. It means nothing. You cannot just prosecute people for that. If we take the precautionary principle too far, we’ll be needing a lot more jails than we can afford.
CS: sorry for mixing up threads…I read somewhere that you did some theatre directing. You just went up a notch. I used to work in theatre lighting and sound sometimes. It’s demanding, but I love it.
…I noticed too that you listed Gogol as one of the artists you performed. I love Gogol.
Cináed
“I used to work in theatre lighting and sound sometimes.”
I worked in a Budapest theater for two years before I went to school for directing.
It was a great experience, getting familiar with the magic. I must have seen Dead Souls and the Revizor dozens of times. These plays were just as entertaining and valid 30 years ago as they are today. People don’t change much, greed and corruption will only die out with mankind.
“I love Gogol.”
He’s one of the timeless classics. Funny how many great authors (composers, artists, etc.) the Russians have produced. They are not so lucky when it comes to statesmen.
I read everything from Dostoyevsky and Chekhov while “serving” in the army. No one was looking for me in the library, it had tons of books and a cafeteria, but no people. Ideal place to spend most of the two years we had to serve back then.
Coffee, apple strudel, thousands of books, peace and quiet.
It’s like Heaven.
Now we have an overload of information, people post more stuff on the web in an hour than you can consume in a lifetime, most of it is worthless junk. And here I am, contributing to it…
You cannot just prosecute people for that
Common Sense at July 27, 2010 5:01 PM
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And no one was ever prosecuted for having that video
You seem to need some help remembering the facts
The point of what the Ministry of Justice did on that Press briefing is if they actually knew that the video, found on one of the arrested computer’s, was from another group or thought it was from this group.
When it was revealed that the video was from another group, who may be totally unrelated, it turned against the showing of the video and it was written of as a cheap ploy
Maybe it was, maybe it was just a mistake, but it has never been especially interesting in the investigations, as NNI (Hungarian ‘FBI’) came out the day after in a statement, which put the decision on showing the video on the Ministry of Justice
But it has never been a legal issue, just a media cook-up
And Fidesz still keep Budahazy in jail, so maybe he and his friends belong there?
Do you and your friends here represent the MSZPs Uninformed Wing?
“And Fidesz still keep Budahazy in jail, so maybe he and his friends belong there?”
Politics and justice don’t mix. Until we manage to separate the two, we’ll always have innocent people in prison while the real gangsters go free.
http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t616773-3/
What’s with all the silver chains and chachkes?
I’ll bet there’s a darling little charm bracelet
under the black cloak somewhere… He’s so “Emo”!
Politics and justice don’t mix. Until we manage to separate the two, we’ll always have innocent people in prison while the real gangsters go free
Common Sense at July 27, 2010 10:24 PM
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So, do politics and justice mix in Hungary today?
Should Budahazy be free because he is of the correct political colour?
What does it mean that even when Hungary went through the recent ‘big Orbanlution’ and Budahazy is still in jail?
MSZP and Fidesz are all the same and Budahazy is even more innocent?
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And shouting ‘String up all MSZP’ is of course not mixing politics and justice…
“Coffee, apple strudel, thousands of books, peace and quiet.”
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I’m not a coffee drinker myself, but we certainly seem to have a similar perception of heaven.During what was supposed to be my last year of undergrad, I became seriously ill and couldn’t work, I managed to hang on to one subject each semester, which amongst other things at least meant I still had access to the social sciences and humanities library at the uni. So I spent a lot of time reading classic literature. Thankfully, after about two years I recovered, but that period of my life was educational in many different ways. People would look at me weirdly for reading “all that dark and miserable Russian stuff” while I was so unwell (especially when I was reading ‘Dead Souls’, but you know what they say, nothing makes you think about life as much as being close to death. I always found the Russian authors in particular very helpful in such a dark time.
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I also really love Checkhov’s short stories, but I seem to have lost oen of my favourite books.
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You’re right though, heavy on the arts, light on the leadership talent. Very sad for the people, although I dare say the world would be a lot less colourful without Russian art.I would also venture to say that Hungary is not that dissimilar in this way…at least in its more recent history.
@ all
Re: “Police will announce later on Saturday the nature of the devices found once experts have concluded an examination, the spokesman said.”
Any announcements in the Hungarian papers? -I looked in BP Times but could not find any reference.