Budapest mayor Gábor Demszky made recommendation to the next city leadership yesterday as he chaired a city council meeting for the last time after 20 years in office.
He proposed that the next leadership stick with the policy model that was elaborated in 1995, complete the fourth metro line, preserve the city’s cultural autonomy and diversity and show tolerance toward the poorest sections of society.
Demszky declared that he is leaving the city’s finances in stable condition, as Budapest’s Ft 161 billion debt is manageable and credit is available to cover the city’s share of funding for development projects up to 2013.
The mayor thanked council members for their work, confirming that he will not run for re-election this year.
The heads of the party groups on city council thanked Demszky for his 20 years of work and refrained from criticisms.
On other matters, council members postponed a decision on the Alstom metro carriages contract, leaving it to the next council to decide.
The city council approved Ft 100 million in loans and Ft 100 million in non-refundable support to operator of the Amusement Park.
They also voted to freeze the rates charged for block heating.
The 67-member council ended its work on Thursday. The next council, to be elected on October 3, will only have 34 members, including the new mayor, under legislation passed by the new Parliament.
“…he is leaving the city’s finances in stable condition, as Budapest’s Ft 161 billion debt is manageable” ‘Unstable’ is the new ‘stable’, obviously. Wanker.
Look at Nyugati, Blaha, Moszkva tér. These are the physical, material witness of his social policies, his economic legacy and his vision.
And let’s not forget he decided not to decide anything about the metro trains fiasco until somebody competent replaces him.
This while his personally chosen handmaidens are all in the clink for corruption, incompetence and theft. People he admits were useless and managed the city like some small company. No real project management etc… And when an accountant pointed this out to him years ago, he was denied a meeting and then lost his job.
Worse thing is, he is going to have a comfortable retirement at everyone else’s expense.
Now this is one fucker I wouldn’t mind seeing locked
up. Even the likes of Gyurcsány could claim, “Well,
it was like that when I got here.” But old Demszky’s
had his hand on the tiller (or should that be, in
the till?) for the full 20 years.
Just walking around the Nyugati these days makes me
sick to my stomach.
Now this is one fucker I wouldn’t mind seeing locked
up
bobscountrybunker at August 27, 2010 4:23 PM
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Is it funny or sad to see how you guys immediately go for the punishment, without any trial?
Remember the Zusclag-case, proper trial, but a waste of time, right?
Viking@It must be a big hurt for you that your dear Hungarian wife is far more open-eyed than you-your own words!
Listen to her and learn
WTF is wrong with the likes of Ricsi and LHVH and
Law etc. always thinking they KNOW the mind of
everyone’s Hungarian wives and parents and
grandparents?!
At this point I’d like to see Ricsi show proof
that he has EVER dated a real-live woman much less
started a family.
It’s SO clear from your garbage that you have ZERO
idea about how the mind of a woman works, so what
a ridiculous charade that you tell anyone to do
anything regarding their spouses or the like.
What a joke. And comically you all are the least
tolerant of gays while meanwhile you are very
likely gay without consciously realizing it.
You, Law, Pava, etc. SHOW ME THE WOMAN before
giving advice on them. Put up or shut the f up.
@”Viking”
Now this is one fucker I wouldn’t mind seeing
locked up
bobscountrybunker at August 27, 2010 4:23 PM
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Is it funny or sad to see how you guys immediately
go for the punishment, without any trial?
Viking at August 27, 2010 6:39 PM
—–
Any chance of you pointing out the words “without
trial” in my comment?
So in my case this “opinion” is neither “funny” or
“sad”, is it? What it actually is, is imagined and
invented: by you.
What I have always failed to understand is this: I
find it blissfully easy to refute what you
laughingly call arguments and ridicule your point
of view, and do so from things you actually
say and really believe.
It comes rather easily to me.
And yet for some reason, you can only seemingly
ever “accomplish” this task yourself by inventing
opinions for me that I do not hold, and never
have. Which means in effect you pat yourself on
the back for “winning” arguments you have only
ever had with yourself.
You seem addicted to this weird schizophrenia, in
which the actual you takes issue with
opinions that are held not by me but by an
imagined me which in truth exists only in your
mind. And is therefore in reality most accurately:
another you.
One would think that simple honest argument and
rational debate would be so much more simpler and
straightforward than all this dishonest rigmarole.
But apparently not.
There is something about these things you are
positively allergic to.
Bob,
Why don’t you just shut the fuck up? In real life you’re a little man with a big belly …
You and your little Hungarian nationalists are the biggest losers on the planet …
@Anonymous
Thanks for confirming for me that I had made my
point. There’s nothing like a spontaneous burst of
irrational abuse to confirm that one’s argument has
hit its mark.
P.S. You’re using belly as a euphemism for penis,
right?
Bob,
You squirm like a worm. You should be a Presidential spokesman.
Go back into your little hut and slobber some more goulash on your Mets t-shirt.
Any chance of you pointing out the words “without
trial” in my comment?
bobscountrybunker at August 28, 2010 12:01 AM
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As I wrote, *you* did not mention ‘trial’, *just* the punishment
And the punishment was for the biggest crime of all – not being on ‘bob’s favorite’s list
As you stated before, words are very important
The words you leave out are equally important
@”Viking”
So in other words, “NO.” There is no chance of you
pointing out the two words, “without trial.” In my
own comment which would justify your implication
that this is what I believe. Because they are
not there. These beliefs you say I hold, as
always, exist only in your mind.
And as for my supplementary question of why you
feel obliged to argue in this schizophrenic way,
we are left as always with silence.
There’s no point in pretending because we have had
this conversation at least a dozen times. You know
what you do is dishonest and absurd, just as much
as I do, but you simply enjoy yourself too much to
let the realization that you are being irrational
get in the way…
I say it is unacceptable for you to say people
believe things because they don’t say them.
You consider it acceptable. This latest thing you
imagine I hold, because I HAVEN’T said it *looks
bizarely at sentence as he writes it* is that I
now, apparently, have a “favourite list.”
When I point out that you have never said you
condemn paedophilia. And that by your own
rules we are now all entitled to believe that
“Viking” enjoys ejaculating over little
children…
“The words you leave out are equally
important,” remember?
…Again we are left with silence.
Please congratulate yourself on scoring another
victory… against yourself. Truly, what you
engage in on Politics.hu is basically no more than
the conversational equivalent of masturbation.
@bobintheshithouse:
You make a lot of noise here!
Even the slightest spelling or grammatical mistake that viking or another of those you hate makes is worth a thousand of your precious words …
Remember how much you wrote about Gauß stealing from Bolyai or about those “respected journalists of the right” like Limbaugh or Beck (which by the way shows your true feeling, I think) ?
Then suddenly you lie low – never reacting to that bullshit crazies like Law and LYNCH produce – including even death threats !
Remember also what you wrote about the German foreign minister who is an open homosexual – your concerns about his problems in Islamic counties sounded soooo sincere …
There is a very thin veneer of civilisation on you – when it gets scratched off, the REAL bob appears – and he is just like common sense (remember him ?)
@puppy’s weed the carpet again
I was actually thinking to myself, “when is the
other half of the ‘self-delusion twins’ going to
make an appearance?” And here you are right
on time!
I suppose there’s no point my pointing out that not
a single solitary word of your comment has even the
remotest relevance whatsoever to any
of the points or issues currently under
discussion… right?
Just here to blow your rapberriess, aren’t you?
Well… I suppose it’s just your idea of fun…
Hi bob! “@puppy’s weed the carpet again”
Wow, your command of language always amazes me …
Are you a bit angry at someone asking you about things you said some time ago, you only want to discuss the last thre minutes – well maybe your event horizon is shrinking …
I didn’t expect you to read my posting – really – you’re making an idiot of yourself …
Better read Law’s postings and then look in the mirror …
Or better still read LYNCH’s – you are really very similar to him …
I’m still laughing …
Now this is one fucker I wouldn’t mind seeing
locked up
bobscountrybunker at August 27, 2010 4:23 PM
===
Is it funny or sad to see how you guys immediately
go for the punishment, without any trial?
Viking at August 27, 2010 6:39 PM
===
Any chance of you pointing out the words “without
trial” in my comment?
bobscountrybunker at August 28, 2010 12:01 AM
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As I wrote, *you* did not mention ‘trial’, *just* the punishment
Viking at August 28, 2010 8:08 AM
===
When I point out that you have never said you
condemn paedophilia
bobscountrybunker at August 28, 2010 12:50 PM
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You stated that you want to see Demszky in jail
You did not state that you wanted Demszky being investigated, prosecuted and maybe convicted, just in jail
With the normal loonies claiming to represent ‘Hungarian Nationalistic Values and Moral’ on this site hardly ever mentions some of their opponents ever should be investigated, prosecuted and maybe convicted, just ‘locked up, strung up, hung up, etc’
Always the punishment, never what should come before that
This is something deliberately ‘forgotten’ and then you can think and write about pedophilia how much you want. I would still give any person accused of pedophilia a trial and if the evidence can be proven, then it is time for punishment (which can be treatment also)
@”Viking”
Once again your screed misses the point. But of course the word “misses” is far too generous, because it implies an un-deliberate act committed by accident. When what you have done is tediously and deliberately dodged the point at hand.
Which is, that you simply cannot invent views for your opponent that they do not hold, regardless of what you may think of that person, and then pretend that this what they believe… You cannot do this and then act as if you are being a legitimate and honest contributor to rational debate: because you are being nothing of the kind.
To do so proves that you are just engaging in a different form of masturbatory raspberry blowing like the other ‘self-delusion twin.’ You do not come to discuss with, but talk at. You haven’t the faintest intention of hearing the views of others, you just want to pretend you are as a cover for a desperate desire just to be heard.
This is proven most eloquently by your ridiculous practise of quoting lengthily from the comment of others and then underneath writing lengthy and tangential text that has no bearing whatsoever on the words cited!
Of course the ultimate irony is that you and wolfi are so irrationally convinced of your “rightness,” as most progressive Leftists are, that you remain utterly blind that how you chose to “argue” is the direct complement and equivalent of the methodology used by Law and LHVJ, whose views you so hate.
Pitiful.
Bob,
The board is sick and tired of you claiming to be misunderstood.
You make these commments all the time about others inventing your views.
You are like a little worm trying to slither around obstacles.
Your views are appalling right wing and frankly, stupid.
You claimed that economic growth is related to a country’s size and its access to the sea in the context of making apologies for Hungary’s lack of economic progress. Despite the fact that Switzerland, Denmark, and many other small countries have extremely high per capita real incomes. Dumb, dumb, dumber …
Besides your stupidity, there is your lack of character. Anyone who brags about owning a BMW is clearly superficial.
So superficial and stupid seem to sum you up quite well.
@Anonymous
That an individual who doesn’t even possess the
simple imagination to think up a handle, can then go
on to pretend to speak “for the board,” is a piece
of hilarity perhaps only eclipsed by a statement
which seeks to ridicule my claim to having my
opinions systematically misrepresented or invented
here: which is rapidly followed by a litany
of such statements which I have never
expressed, do not maintain, and are so
positively absurd as to be virtually
fantastical.
You’ll be in good company here.
Once again your screed misses the point
bobscountrybunker at August 29, 2010 1:58 PM
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If you are trying to state that I am wrong and you actually hope that Demszky get a a fair trial, if ever charged with anything, and your explicit expressed wish for Demszky spending some jail time was, obviously, ‘misunderstood, it is OK
A simple statement would do
Instead you have gone on writing long posts that no one is allowed to interpret this statement:
“Now this is one fucker I wouldn’t mind seeing locked up
bobscountrybunker at August 27, 2010 4:23 PM”
as just what is clearly stated, a punishment and not any outspoken charges, except:
“had his hand on the tiller (or should that be, in
the till?) for the full 20 years.
Just walking around the Nyugati these days makes me sick to my stomach
bobscountrybunker at August 27, 2010 4:23 PM”
.
So your charges would be:
* “had his hand on the tiller (or should that be, in the till?) for the full 20 years”
* “makes me sick to my stomach”
Where in the current Hungarian Law do you find these “crimes”?
Bob,
Your lack of character is on display every day. For everyone to see. You ooze arrogance …
@”Viking”
You simply cannot invent views for your opponent that they do not hold, regardless of what you may think of that person, and then pretend that this is what they believe… You cannot do this and then act as if you are being a legitimate and honest contributor to rational debate: because you are being nothing of the kind.
bobscountrybunker at August 29, 2010 1:58 PM
@Anonymous
What possible relevance does this allegation that I “ooze arrogance,” have to the validity or otherwise of my arguments? Anymore than if I “seeped disappointment,” “percolated indifference,” or “trickled ennui”?… I’ll tell you what relevance it has: precisely none.
There is of course something deliciously ironic about this notion that I have “revealed my character” because you did precisely this about yourself a little while back. Allow me to point you to this statement you made at August 29, 2010 3:25 PM:
“Your views are appalling, right wing and frankly, stupid.”
Now this was very revealing. Self-evidently you are trying to list three ad hominems in a row. But you have inadvertently chosen “right-wing” as – by definition – a term of insult. You are clearly the kind of person who thinks that the only political views that exist outside the centre Left, are various shades of Fascism. And in an unguarded moment you, wolfi and “Viking” would probably happily admit to this. While remaining blissfully ignorant of how stupendously idiotic, and indeed dangerous, such a mindset is.
You gentlemen reveal yourself so clearly and tediously. This attitude you have that those who oppose your ideas cannot possibly be people who have reached their conclusions through reflection and analysis, for one. No. They do not hold opinions, their views are, rather, a type of pathology…
Well I think the time has come to disabuse you once and for all. Read this sentence carefully: “I do not care what you think.”
Of all the posters here there are only six persons whose views are worth anything, to my mind. On the Right there is myself and justasking. On the Left there is Vándorló and olga. And somewhere in the liberal middle I feel, are Farkas László and Cináed. These are the only people on this site who reach their conclusions through honest reflection and a commitment to legitimate argument, are willing to have their opinions changed should it be proven logical to do so, and (forgive me ladies) have the “balls” to admit they are wrong when they are.
Virtually everyone else, regardless of their political position, either, merely pretends to engage in dialogue but is much more interested in misrepresentation and repeating their tedious views endlessly through this means (e.g. “Viking,” see above), or, resorts to a shower of vapid ad hominems when their dishonesty is pointed out to them (e.g. wolfi, see above); or a combination of the two (e.g. American in Budapest, oh I’m sorry, I mean “Anonymous,” see above).
The idea that I should be even remotely interested in the opinions on my “character” of such mendacious popinjays is a degree of delusion that borders on flat-earthism. I mean this notion that I’m arrogant is just ludicrous. Why on earth would I possibly want to drive a BMW, for example?
My Aston suits me just fine…
“My Aston suits me just fine…
bobscountrybunker at August 30, 2010 1:10 PM ”
In Germany this type of car is called “Penis Prothese” …
In Orlando I saw once a Hummer – in the dust on the back someone had written “my dick is really very small” …
Why don’t we have smilies here –
@wolfi
…or, resorts to a shower of vapid ad hominems when
their dishonesty is pointed out to them (e.g.
wolfi,…
bobscountrybunker at August 30, 2010 1:10 PM
well, bob, I’ve probably seen too many postings here from Law and Lynch – you should know they’re full of insults …
I remember you also like insults – or is it a compliment, when you call anyone a kike or a shikse (although I might be wrong about this, it’s maybe pavian’s way of showing “respect” …)
I collected some of the choicest insults here – but since you seem to read evrything, you should know about them …
Of course you don’t care about Law and LYNCH and common sense – you think you are more intellectual and clever than them – but the character is the same …
So don’t worry, for most of the people here you belong to the same categorie of “extreme right wing loonies” as Law etc – or crazies like Glenn Beck and Limbaugh who are “respected figures of the right” (but only in your mind …)
Well who really cares about Jobbik and jobos – it’s the silly season …
I remember you also like insults – or is it a
compliment, when you call anyone a kike or a shikse
wolfi at August 30, 2010 2:37 PM
@bob:
Why do you get so excited ? I wrote a question:
“I remember you also like insults – or is it a compliment, when you call anyone a kike or a shikse (although I might be wrong about this, it’s maybe pavian’s way of showing “respect” …)”
Maybe it really was pavian not you – I don’t care, for me you sound like twins …
You belong in the same “Schublade” as we say in German
BTW: If you really respect justasking you might say something about the way Law and LYNCH have been treating her – or do you really just care for your Aston …
@ Bob
I just asked Cinaed to send me an article on Krisztina Morvai, so she is on my mind.
What do you think she is doing for Hungary’s image as a politician?
I am not sure if you belong to the group that thinks the Western world’s opinion matters not as far as Hungary goes, but I think she is a huge embarrassment to women all over the world and of course to Hungary even if she belongs to MENSA.
No doubt she is a very intelligent woman but
there is no correlation between IQ, common sense and/or common decency
@wolfi
So no proof then you mendacious scumbag?
Maybe you follow Viking’s logic that precisely
because I hadn’t said it, I must
believe it?
Get it through your head you fool. You are
exactly the SAME as Lynch.
You both use lies, insults, and misrepresentation,
just because it happens to be with someone with whom
you disagree.
It is only your ideology that is different.
Your character is identical.
Get it, you bare faced liar?
@olga
How can you claim that Morvai is “an embarrassment
for women all over the world,” when she wrote the
country’s foremost study on domestic violence? (It
was an expansion of her PhD thesis, I believe.)
She has done much much more for the fate of downtrodden and oppressed women in Hungary, than
any of the female liberal commentators harping
from their comfortable Budapest homes, who would
of course not dream of giving her the credit she
deserves (or lifting a finger to help the women
she has).
But crudely I do think you have hold of the right
idea, and her general view, which is that trying
to please the world is what Hungary’s main problem
has been. Government’s primary job should be to
server the national, not the international
interest.
You simply cannot invent views for your opponent that they do not hold, regardless of what you may think of that person, and then pretend that this is what they believe… You cannot do this and then act as if you are being a legitimate and honest contributor to rational debate: because you are being nothing of the kind.
bobscountrybunker at August 29, 2010 1:58 PM
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Would you then care to expand your statement:
“Now this is one fucker I wouldn’t mind seeing locked up
bobscountrybunker at August 27, 2010 4:23 PM”
or are we suppose to guess that you have so much info on this guy that you know that he will be convicted in court?
For doing what?
“makes me sick to my stomach”
Where in the current Hungarian Law do you find such a “crime”?
I think there are some people that would like to know this, so we can get a lot of people charged with this “crime”
@ Bob
Thanks – As I mentioned, I totally agree with you about “her past” – that’s why I admired her in 2005 when I first heard her name in BP; regardless of how contemptible I think she is now, does not negate her past good deeds
“You are only as good as your last game” – she is known more for her “Jewish Men” remarks than for her good deeds. The fact that her kids are 1/2 Jewish makes the whole sad tale completely incomprehensible to me and I consider it psychological child abuse.
Re: “Government’s primary job should be to
server the national, not the international
interest.” – Absolutely. The problem is the vast differences in defining “national interest”
I read somewhere recently that Poland was the only EU country that did not fall into a recession during the global economic crisis and they expect an exconomic growth is 2010
I have no idea what’s going on in Poland but I wonder if they are as obsessed about the “blame game” the “Gaza Strip” and the glorious past as the so called Hungarians are on this website.
Can you think of another female politician in the world who talks like her?
Ann Coulter is a downright class act compared to her .
Personally, the hate KM spews pales by comparison to the revulsion I feel for her for humiliating her children with those remarks about “Jewish Men” given
the circumstances.
Regardless of how cotemptible I think she is, does not negate her good deeds as far as her past work is
for the record, I for one do not put bob into the same category as bi-law and robin. Actually, I put bob down as his own person, and have immeasurably more respect for what he says than the dynamic duo.
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by the way bob. You mentioned KM’s work on domestic violence that was an extension of her PhD. Do you know if there is an English translation of it anywhere and if so, what it is called?
Bobs wrote: “Of all the posters here there are
only six persons whose views are worth anything,
to my mind. On the Right there is myself and
justasking. On the Left there is Vándorló and
olga. And somewhere in the liberal middle I feel,
are Farkas László and Cináed.”
I am SO BUMMED RIGHT NOW!
Bobs also wrote:
“You both use lies, insults, and
misrepresentation…”
“…you mendacious scumbag?”
“…you fool.”
“…pretending that I have used this disgusting
language” “…YOU FUCKING LIAR.”
I too thought that maybe “Common Sense” was Bobs’
alter ego (but without the HTML taggin’ for bold
and italics!)… probably not the case but there
are some similarities… Bobs did you follow
Glenn Beck’s ‘salute to Martin Luther King’ last
week? Probably 24-7 coverage somewhere online.
So… How’s your new website going? Shouldn’t
you be too busy to bother wasting your valuable
time blowing off steam without it being
“monetized” over here at Politics.hu?
Also, let’s do a car race if you’re ever in the
states… I’ll take my car and you can ride your
Wonder-Woman-brand “invisible Aston”… No seat
belts, that’s cheating!
Winner gets naming rights for your website… Oh,
did Farkas Laszlo ever survive your extensive
“credentialing process” in order to appear on such
a lofty media outlet or is it still an exclusive
membership of ONE? Plus your “invisible” partner,
Wonder Woman?
Sorry about the sarcasm… just wondering why you
were back so soon.
@ Cinaed and Bob
Cinaed – thanks for the email – will read every word re KM
Bob – something went wrong with my posting to you re KM – as in I screwed it up
I keep promising myself to reread before I push that “submit” button but I didn’t and forgot to delete the repetitious 2nd part.
My excuse is that it’s Monday (?)
@olga
I simply do not know of her making any
“contemptible” remarks other than the “circumsized
penis” one, which I have never seen this
convincingly attributed to her, have you?
Yes, certainly she is a strong, sometime
hysterical opponent of the state of Israel, but I
have noticed far far more visceral and stronger
such critics, men and women, on the European Left.
She is abrasive, argumentative, condescending
sure. But I have never heard her making
contemptible remarks.
There was something a while back about giving the
police “the finger,” but I say, so what? This is
rudeness, not hate speech. They are not the
same thing. And recall that her and her daughters
got gassed by the police on Oct. 23rd, 2006. So I
can understand her warm feelings on this issue.
But I agree with you about Coulter, she had a mind
like a rapier.
@Cináed
The book was entitled, “Terror in the family.” I do
not know if there is an English version, but I doubt
it.
http://www.szakkonyv.hu/portal.aspx/product/show/912
db5d1-2f0f-48af-8f62-f31a65cc699c
I’ll try an reply to your email soon, honestly don’t
worry about it.
@Bystander
You will of course not believe me, but as I was
writing those words your name did indeed cross my
mind. The truth is, that I simply have not had the
opportunity to read as much of your contributions
as I would like, so much of my posting time here
being taken up by a bunch of asinine trolls, who I
really should have simply ignored a very long time
ago.
I can only sincerely apologise if I caused any
offence, and promise to pay closer attention to
your posts in future.
There has not been much progress on the site as I
have taken a well needed two weeks holiday
climbing some peaks in Africa. And now the
pressures of other, much better paying labour, is
taking precedence once again. If it does see the
light of day, which I still hope, it will be a
much more deliberate long term affair, as getting
the range of contributors I wanted is proving
difficult to achieve with the ever more limited
non-professional time at my disposal.
bob: much obliged, on both counts.
@Bobs,
D
I have to say that you post regarding us here on Politics surprised me. Thank-you
Now, just a quick question. What year were you born? I’m thinking around 1840-1860…somewhere around there.
I arrived at this conclusion, for the last time I heard the word ‘popinjays’ was in one of my historical romance novels. I do so love them.
So, regarding your birthdate…am I close?
‘Cultural Marxism’** which would apply to culture
the principles of Karl Marx bolstered by the
modern psychological tools of Sigmund Freud .
Thus, ‘cultural Marxism’ became a marriage of Marx
and Freud aimed at producing a ‘quiet’ revolution
in the United States of America.
The idea would be to bring a slow progressive
attack on the basic institutions by placing
socialists and Marxists in key places in America’s
society: Mass media, education, the church, family
and popular culture – music and entertainment. And
their American citizen targets were women,
especially young women. Women were to be the
vehicle to rip the foundation of America apart in
American Christian families.
@justasking
Right century, just a little off, why don’t you just
ask wolfi? He’ll happily tell you that anyone with
my views was quite clearly born in 1889 at Braunau-
am-Inn…
Bisous
their American citizen targets were women,
especially young women
Lorraine at August 30, 2010 6:52 PM
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Can it be ‘Law’ at it?
Copying and pasting from this website:
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http://www.shangrala.org/MESSAGES_HEAVEN/RecreatDrug.html
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The site looks like one he would drool over
Viking: I rarely read the links people post here, but I read the one you posted above. I know I shouldn’t be surprised that such people exist, and I know that they have the right to free speech…but for fuck’s sake. “the happy ‘father knows best’” thing. All I can say is that if this is bi-law in drag, then he of all people REALLY needs to read more of KM’s work…that is, when he learns his ‘own’ language.
@Bobs,
Naw, I tend to ask people questions directly. That way I know exactly where they are coming from and what they are thinking. I hate filling in the blanks
Anyway. When will your site be up and running? I ask because as you can see, this site has deteriorate exponentially from when I first joined over a year ago and the last few months.
It’s not fun anymore. It’s exhausting. And I’m not learning anything.
Before, I would read others post and think about what they had to say. Sometimes times shedding light on a point that I had not considered. Other times, my eyes would get stuck in the back of my head, I was rolling them so much.
I miss the witty one liners. I miss the sarcastic responses to some of the articles. Case in point, Vandor’s post on ‘Orban to assess 100 days’. I laughed out loud and there was a time that I did that everyday reading this site. Hence my addiction to it.
You said that you will have stricter security on your site. Does this mean that you would not allow what has transpired over the past week to have been posted? I hope so, for it has gotten completely out of hand.
Anyhow, that’s my 2 bits for what it’s worth.
@JA
You behave like an innocent child, but you have been
such an ignorant participant in creating this chaos,
and look at the charade of losers you have
surrounded yourself with, you think a descent
Hungarian would be proud of such a confused
hypocrite as yourself…? You stirred up a hornets
nest and sent it spinning out of control, now you
are begging for mercy, well fuck you! And your
foolish behavior. Ribanc..
Tsar’s school of spealling, grammar and punctuation for the linguistically challenged.
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descent – descend – to lose height, or to gradually get lower.
decent – acceptable, honourable, appropriate.
LHVJ: “I have a nasty ribanc on my hand and I am
trying to deal with the bitch.”
JA, the rest of us owe you a debt of gratitude for
keeping LHVJ’s hands full! Keep up the good work!
Look at Law trying to pat himself on the back,
calling his two-idiot circle jerk a “hornet’s
nest”… Ooooh you’re so scary, Law!
Noting that I support everyone’s individual right
to their sexual preference… Since these guys are
most rabid about “Family Values”…
I am still awaiting proof of *any* kind that
either Law or LHVJ (or Ricsi) has ever had any
sort of relationship with a woman… It is clear
from their comments that they must be totally
insufferable to ANY live person. However, there
is a pig-farm somewhere, isn’t there?
@Laci,
I do not and will not deny my participation in all of this. But, unlike you…I know when to stop. Unlike you, I do not enjoy such stressful and mean spirited dialogue.
I fought dirty and went for the jugular because I got sick and tired of how the 2 of you have done that to almost every single poster on this site. And thought ‘enough is enough, pay back time’.
Do not lay the blame at my feet for this site spinning out of control the past few days. Blame yourselves for the initial uncalled for and unwarranted and personal attacks. This is just us throwing it all back at you. That’s why it’s coming from all directions. You know the sating ‘you reap what you sow’?
I’m stopping, because I was beginning to find great pleasure in hurting LHVJ and that scared me. I refuse to be sucked into that mind set that LHVJ enjoys and sadly you now. If you cannot see when you’re being manipulated, controlled and isolated by people as twisted as he (Mark). Nothing I can ever say will make sense to you.
How many times I said to Olga and Cin “I swear, if you hear this guy talk. He’s a quite spoken individual, he’s ‘normal’ Not like what he is on Politics, at least to us he wasn’t.
And now look at you.
I beg for nothing…this is just me walking away from you and LHVJ
“I swear, if you hear this guy talk. He’s a quite
spoken individual, he’s ‘normal’ Not like what he is
on Politics, at least to us he wasn’t.”
Do you mean Law? Or did you meet LHVJ/Mark in
person?
*Everyone* is “nice” in person! Just FYI from my
experience, everyone is nice in person… I think
it’s a survival-mechanism (in case the other person
is big/scary/etc)… but as soon as some people turn
around… WHOOM! There they go…
Ladies and Gentlemen… once again it is time for…. “Law’s Poetry Hour!” with your host, Csikos Laszlo, Australia’s premier mental-payments welfare sop living the life of an ex-pat Antipodean poet in Budapest! Our latest opus is entitled “Ribanc” (sometimes titled “Rebanc”)
You behave like an innocent child,
but you have been
such an ignorant participant in creating this
chaos,
and look at the charade
of losers you have
surrounded yourself with,
you think a descent
Hungarian would be proud of such a confused
hypocrite as yourself…?
You stirred up a hornets
nest
and sent it spinning out of control,
now you
are begging for mercy,
well fuck you!
And your
foolish behavior.
Ribanc..
[smattering of applause]
WILLIAM BURROUGHS: Encore!
Cultural Marxism’ and ‘critical theory’ are
concepts developed by this group of German
intellectuals. The Institute was modeled after the
Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow. In 1933, when the
Nazis came to power in Germany, the members of the
Frankfurt School fled to the United States. While
here, they migrated to major U.S. universities
(Columbia, Princeton, Brandeis, and California at
Berkeley). These intellectual Marxists included
Herbert Marcuse, who coined the phrase, ‘make
love, not war,’ during the anti-Vietnam War
demonstrations.
By promoting the dialectic of ‘negative’
criticism, that is, pointing out the rational
contradictions in a society’s belief system, the
Frankfurt School ‘revolutionaries’ dreamed of a
utopia where their rules governed.
‘make love, not war’
Hey, why not ? What’s bad about that idea ?
Of all the posters here there are only six persons whose views are worth anything, to my mind. On the Right there is myself and justasking. On the Left there is Vándorló and olga
bobscountrybunker at August 30, 2010 1:10 PM
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Sure you meant ‘Vándorló’, or was it ‘Vándorlófaszazanyádpicsájába’?
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@Vándorlófaszazanyádpicsájába
Uh-huh, because the one thing I’ve been lacking so far, is YOU, telling ME, what I really
mean
bobscountrybunker at November 3, 2009 10:47 PM
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http://www.politics.hu/20091102/orban-says-fidesz-to-seek-new-measures-against-football-hooliganism
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Seems like people in general have a problem grasping what you *really* wanted to say
@”Viking”
Don’t you think the fact that it took you nearly twelve hours to find such a comment, from 2009(!) says quite a lot?… I did, I found it quite hilarious actually.
Whereas someone seeking to find an example of you doing all the things I crticize needs only, erm, scroll up.
I hope you have fun disingenuously discussing the implications of this… with yourself.
Another great speedy comeback, by the way. Zinger!
Don’t you think the fact that it took you nearly twelve hours to find such a comment, from 2009(!) says quite a lot?… I did, I found it quite hilarious actually
bobscountrybunker at August 31, 2010 1:18 AM
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Unlike you I actually do some real work between posting here, so time between 2 posts means nothing
But look how easy it is for you too put in a lot of meaning in what other people think/mean/do
The same thing, or should we say, the *only* thing you always accuse other posters of, instead of discussing what as it hand, like explaining what exactly your statement:
“Now this is one fucker I wouldn’t mind seeing locked up
bobscountrybunker at August 27, 2010 4:23 PM”
or are we suppose to guess that you have so much info on this guy that you know that he will be convicted in court?
For doing what?
“makes me sick to my stomach”
Where in the current Hungarian Law do you find such a “crime”?
I think there are some people that would like to know this, so we can get a lot of people charged with this “crime”
Viking at August 30, 2010 3:43 PM
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Not that I really think you will do so, because one day I will stumble over your post some years ago, where you stated you would *never ever* comment on my post
Like Law you make ridiculous promises, but never keep them
“Now this is one fucker I wouldn’t mind seeing locked up
bobscountrybunker at August 27, 2010 4:23 PM
“or are we suppose to guess that you have so much info on this guy that you know that he will be convicted in court”?
Viking at August 31, 2010 8:56 AM
Sorry for poking my nose into this conversation.
I just have to ask…what’s the big deal?
Bobs stated his opinion. I have said that I would like to see some individuals shot and pissed on. For whatever reason.
Does that mean it’s going to happen? No. Am I suggesting my verdict jump the person’s right for a fair trial? No. I’m just stating what I would like to see happen. So did Bob’s.
Unlike you I actually do some real work between posting here, so time between 2 posts means nothing
Viking at August 31, 2010 8:56 AM
You were probably very occupied yesterday on other sites telling everyone that the recent shooting of Roma by a madman in Slovakia…
…was all really the fault of Jobbik, right?
bobscountrybunker at August 31, 2010 10:26 AM
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Sorry ‘bob’ I am rather confined to this site
I sometimes makes an apperance on realdeal and pestiside, *but* I always do it using my alias ‘Viking’, so the likes like you can track me without any effort
This site works a bit like stress-relief for me, but of course it can occasionally be stressing itself
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With regards to the Slovak mass-murder, the Slovak Police has basically just said it was one Roma family of six killed (obviously targeted) and one innocent bystander
They have not released any info on the killer itself, but from pictures (which I cannot really tell is the killer or not) that person is typically non-Roma
So what the motive was, private or just plain racism, we do not know at the moment
If you ask me if the hatred against Roma, which “Jobbik” has been cultivated and thrives off, increases the risk for violent attacks?
Yes, would be my answer, and it is here I charge “Jobbik” with responsibility. A moral responsibility to either inflate or deflate an already infected situation
Not that I think that you would understand or will agree
Bobs stated his opinion. I have said that I would like to see some individuals shot and pissed on. For whatever reason.
Does that mean it’s going to happen? No. Am I suggesting my verdict jump the person’s right for a fair trial? No. I’m just stating what I would like to see happen. So did Bob’s.
justasking at August 31, 2010 10:19 AM
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I think on a site called and dedicated to Politics we should concentrate on what is possible to do, not just bar-room screaming
It is not very dignifying, is it not?
I challenged ‘bob’s post because normally he does not write like that, it was more in the style of Law and our Little Husar
And I am genuine interested in what real charges there are out there, not just this “string ‘em up” shouting
The latter takes down this site as any source of info and debate
OK, I can be a bit provocative sometimes and it is OK to challenge me on that, but I normally has a bit more formulated opinion to back it up with and is willing to discuss those specifics
@Viking,
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“I think on a site called and dedicated to Politics we should concentrate on what is possible to do, not just bar-room screaming
It is not very dignifying, is it not”?
Dear friend…and yes I mean just that. Dear friend…ignoring that past few days. When have we here on Politics.hu come up with solutions to problems?
Dignified or not…we love to pick at each other for effect.
Back to the point:
There have been a lot of accusations and even more rumours on the corruption in Demszky’s government and BKV etc.
Is there any news on what Fidesz wants to do – like setting up a comittee to investigate ?
I know it’s a bit early – butmaybe they should start befor relevant documents get lost – like 21 years ago (I know it happened in East Germany, where the Stasi shredded tons of papers, probably in Hungary too).
@ Bob
Re; Krisztina Morvai.
The woman I admired in 2005 (wiki)
“She primarily researches the area of penal law, dealing with the retrospective administration of justice, the question of abortion, victim’s rights in criminal procedure, the dignity and rights of the HIV positive, child abuse and sexual exploitation, the problem of prostitution, discrimination and domestic violence”
Hard to believe it’s the same woman after JOBBIK knocked at the door; the Jewish male anatomy comment was clear evidence that no personal relationship was more sacred than her own ambition
She once made reference to Israelis being “lice infested dirty murderers” I guess that’s what you meant by describing her as a sometimes “ hysterical opponent of Israel” – Jerry Springer contestants are supposed to be hysterical, not a potential President elect of Hungary. Any examples of other Western politicians describing their “enemies” like that?
BTW, being a “hysterical woman” is a huge disservice to women who are fighting for equality and talking like a trailer trash bimbo does not help the noble causes she is supposedly championing because there will be an assumption that she is a drama queen with PMS who grossly exaggerates issues to suit her purpose.
Sarah Palin was described by a journalist as an acute, national embarrassment, like a troublesome rash that won’t respond to treatment – that’s how I think of KM and for obviously selfish reasons
cont…
@ Bob (cont)
I hate someone like her ruining the reputation of Hungarian professional females on the world stage. ( The flip side of being proud of her a “Hungarian feminist lawyer ” fighting for the causes I mentioned previously)
Just like Gyurcsany was the male version of embarrassment, these two clowns were the only well known Hungarian politicians who grabbed the headlines in the Western media – now that’s my definition of “pathetic”
@anonymous(olga, I presume?):
Very succinctly said. Politicians/managers are/behave sometimes very strange …
Two recent cases come to my mind:
The German Mr Sarrazin (High ranking at the German National Bank), also a member of our social democrats and his sztatemnets about Muslims, Jews, people out of work …
He’s just presented a book on this – have you read anything about him ? Maybe that type of news doesn’t travel to North America …
The other case is the boss of Intel (Paul Otellini) who found rather strong words against Obama’s politics …
@ Wolfi
Sorry – that was me and forgot to put my name in when I continued the post.
I think the people you mentioned are “private citizens” and that’s bad enough but politician represent a country.
Today’s political gem came from Iran accusing Sarkozy’s wife of being a prostitute because her husband criticized Iran’s decision to stone a woman to death.
Of course I am a happy to read such articles because it makes Iran’s leaders look like total jackasses although they are not concerned with Western opinions.
I hope Hungary considers itself amongst the Democratic Western countries and giving people
their morning chuckle about KM and Gyurcsany is not my idea of fun.
I also prefer reading about Canada winning a gold at the Olympics as opposed to one of our most respected Generals being tried for the serial murder of women.
I think it’s called national pride or something like that – go figure.
@olga:
The Iranians are – well I don’t know what to say. In the 60s and 70s we had some Iranian students who stayed in Germany (as doctors for example), very nice,liberal (!) and cultivated people – I wonder what has happened there.
At Least Carla doesn’t have to go there – but our foreign minister Westerwelle (who is gay) – bob was very afraid for him once, at least he wrote about it here …
Mr Sarrazin as manager of a National Bank and speaker at many political events (now they don’t invite him often) is also “a figure of interest” – you should read the embarrassment of his party bosses…
Dignified or not…we love to pick at each other for effect.
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justasking at August 31, 2010 11:22 AM
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Ooh no, I could definitely not write something bad about another poster. That would keep me awake for several nights…
On the other hand, given your recent ‘spat’ with our Little Husar, I have videoed this tip to help you find an appropriate gift to your Apu
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4o1RQBKw5M&fmt=18
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(Having met him, I think he appreciates the humor (I hope…))
@Viking,
“Ooh no, I could definitely not write something bad about another poster. That would keep me awake for several nights…
Hmm, so that means you haven’t slept for months? No wonder you have those bags under your eyes:DD
Regarding the video…I would not dare show something like that to my him. Apu already gave me shit six ways to Sunday because I responded back to you know who.
I don’t mean to put you on the spot and I finally get your quirky sense of humour…But. I was a little uncomfortable watching that video. Olga’s right…shit like this does happen to kids and should not be made light of.
PS: Went to Apu’s for coffee today and he says to say Hi. So…Hi!!