September 1st, 2010

Former Hungarian Guard member sentenced to life for murder

The Szeged Court of Appeals handed down a life prison term to Péter András for the brutal murder of his girlfriend in Kalocsa in April 2009.

András, a former member of the Magyar Gárda, stabbed his victim numerous times, tried to sever her head, carved a swastika into her back with a knife, then draped her body in a flag portraying a Nazi symbol.

He will be eligible for parole in 30 years at the earliest.

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28 Comments

  1. Vándorló says:

    That all seems to fit the profile. No doubt they’ll be on his case straight after Budaházy and György. Best ask Morvai.

  2. LHVJ says:

    You try to smear Budahazy and Magyar Garda because of the action of a deranged murderer who was a member of the Garda. Going with your logic, we should consider the following:
    Sever Plocker said, “We mustn’t forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish”.
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
    Does this mean that all Jews are murderers and Hitler was right in trying to exterminate them? Should we instead concentrate on those who are guilty of crimes and not smear those such as Budahazy and the decent members of Magyar Garda because of this criminal?

    • DH says:

      Magyar Garda.decent?probably insane xenophobes and hypocrites ,I might ad.You ain`t fooling nobody.

  3. bobscountrybunker says:

    @Vándorló
    That all seems to fit the profile.
    Vándorló at September 1, 2010 12:13 PM

  4. Anonymous says:

    LHVJ,
    We have plenty of evidence that Jobbik and its paramilitary friends are extremists.
    The very act of marching through areas predominantly Roma is an act of intimidation. I might support that act of intimidiation as protected by liberty of expression, but let’s have no illusions about the Hungarian Guard would do if came to power.
    By the way, if you look at Jobbik and the Hungarian Guard, their members are the ‘losers of Hungarian society’. They are not well educated in general. Their income levels in general are very low. They are insecure.
    They remind me a lot of the Nazis, which came from the low end of the middle class and were also poorly educated. The Lumpen proletariat.

  5. Dork says:

    @Anonymous
    We have plenty of evidence that Jobbik and its paramilitary friends are extremists.
    The very act of marching through areas predominantly Roma is an act of intimidation.
    Anonymous at September 1, 2010 3:15 PM

    We have plenty of evidence that LMP and its gay pride parade friends are extremists.
    The very act of marching through areas predominantly heterosexual is an act of intimidation.

    Does sound really stupid, doesn’t it?

  6. olga says:

    @ Dork
    My quest for learning more about politics in Hungary continues.
    Does the LMP have a para-military organization attached to it reminiscent of the Nazi era and
    are heterosexuals a minority in certain areas? (could account for the declining birth rate but I don’t want to confuse the issues)
    Have they coined a new phrase “heterosexual crimes”?
    There is another thread today reporting the sentencing of someone who murdered his girlfriend.
    That could be reported as a “heterosexual crime”
    I am not sure why you thought that analogy would be “stupid” Makes perfect sense.

  7. LHVJ says:

    @Anonymous at September 1, 2010 3:15 PM
    “We have plenty of evidence that Jobbik and its paramilitary friends are extremists.”
    Compared to the nazi izraelis, everyone is a moderate.

  8. olga says:

    @ LHVJ
    Hard to believe you actually wrote the sentence :
    “Should we instead concentrate on those who are guilty of crimes” etc
    But then it’s hard to believe that Gyurcsany accused Fidesz/ Orbán of misleading the country in order to be elected.
    You two are made from the same cookie cutter and
    as they say, “There are none so blind as those, that will not see”

  9. Viking says:

    Was Péter András held in pre-trial detention for
    two years, for example?
    Was he denied the opportunity of a speedy trial,
    the right to face his accuser, or see the supposed
    evidence against him, perhaps?
    Did the Interior Ministry and national security apparatus clumsily conspire in a Keystone Cops
    manner to fabricate evidence against him?
    bobscountrybunker at September 1, 2010 3:00 PM

    Are we not getting a bit hysterical here?
    1) It obviously did not take so long time to gather evidence that Péter András was the most likely perpetrator, so the Prosecution could take him to court
    Before the charges has been made, there will hardly be so much evidence shown, then that is partly the Prosecution’s right to not ‘spill the beans’
    Also the Budahazy case is a bit more complicated, than a simple murder case, so the comparison is not perfect
    The media-fiasco was never any attempt to “fabricate evidence”. They showed a video that was said was to have been found on on of the seized computers. That was the thing. No one I read has denied the existence of the video in question. NNI has claimed it is not so important in this case and as proof it is rather useless, then it does not prove anything by itself. An explosion is an explosion…
    .
    I can agree with anyone that long pre-trial detentions is not a good thing and is bad, but this is the same thing for many other suspected criminals also.
    And I believe Budahazy has only been for one year?
    Which agreeable is a very long time

  10. justasking says:

    That’s the least this animal deserves. Pure evil.
    Imagine the terror this woman experienced in the last few moments of her life.
    Do you think that it mattered to her while this was happening…if he was a former member of the Magyar Garda?

  11. olga says:

    @ justasking
    Women are murdered every day as a result of domestic violence and sadly even the gruesomeness of the case is only unusual because the killer managed to turn the crime into a political statement .
    When the killer “carved a swastika into her back with a knife, then draped her body in a flag portraying a Nazi symbol.” was not helpful to his outlawed organization that’s considered to be “Neo-Nazi” by the mainstream Western media.
    Now let’s hope that Hungarian justice works better than the Canadian justice system and 30 years behind bars before eligibility for parole actually means just that.

  12. LHVJ says:

    @Olga
    I meant every bit of what I said but what we have on this list and on many others lists is not a discussion between people who want to discuss and resolve conflicts and ideas but a mud throwing contest. I do not believe for a minute that the Jews posting their filth on this list are representative of a Jewish engineer or teacher working somewhere in Europe or anywhere else. These are the lowest of Jewish extremists who will lie and smear hoping to intimidate those who disagree with them. If all Jews were like these, then all Jews would be scum. I do not believe that.
    What I believe is that Hungary should be ruled and owned by Hungarians, not by foreigners and especially not by Jews because of their horrible deeds against Hungarians during the Rakosi and Kadar Communist dictatorships. All you have to do is view this video about the AVO to understand that Jewish Communist rule of Hungary was very brutal:
    http://tdyweb2.wbteam.com/Avosok_1.htm
    However, that is not the main reason why I object Israel’s designs on Hungary with the willing participation of Jews who live in Hungary. Even if they had been saint and have done nothing good deeds for Hungarians, I would not want them to rule over Hungarians. I would not want anyone to rule over Hungarians because that is contrary what a sovereign nation should be.
    These Jews on this list and in the local and International media try to intimidate Hungarians because they want to continue to rule Hungary. That is wrong and anyone who has even an inkling of Hungarian loyalty should resist the Jews or anyone else taking over Hungary. No other country would permit it and Hungary should not permit it either.
    I repeat that not all Jews are as evil as these are and most Jews are no different from anyone else. The very fact that these post here their hate, filth and smears is proof that they come from the lowest and most extremist groups of Jews. Those who kiss up to this slime are even worse than they are.

  13. Law says:

    @LHVJ
    Well explained, this is the true reality of
    politics.hu.

  14. Bystander says:

    Lobott (that was the *tranSITIonal* name between
    “mark” and “lhvj” BTW!) scribbled “I do not
    believe for a minute that the Jews posting their
    filth on this list are representative of a Jewish
    engineer or teacher working somewhere in Europe or
    anywhere else….If all Jews were like these, then
    all Jews would be scum. I do not believe that. ”
    Two questions, Mark… Show me my “filth”
    presuming I am one of the ones you are talking
    about — paste me an example of something
    filthier than you write
    … I think the non-
    Jews here who dislike you as well got much more
    “filthy” than me…
    And, also I’d like to know who ELSE on these pages
    besides me and (presumably) “Pete H” and “American
    in Budapest”? You call everyone a Jew, rabidly,
    and yet don’t realize what a fool you look like
    since I’m pretty darn sure that Wolfi, Viking,
    Olga, Vandorlo, FL, JA, and so on are *NOT*
    Jewish!
    Do you realize what an idiot and paranoid *freak*
    that makes you look like? Calling everyone and
    their mother a “jew”? It makes you look worse
    than Mel Gibson, 100x more idiotic! In the movies
    that kind of rabid, irrational paranoia is made
    fun of, and the character often ends up an an
    asylum at best.
    Also, I’m not an engineer or a teacher
    (technically) but I think that if you rule out the
    stupid Fundamentalists (mostly in Israel proper),
    I am *somewhat* typical as far as how a slightly
    left-Centrist educated Jew thinks… you might
    want to not engage in wishful thinking, and get
    used to it.

  15. justasking says:

    @Olga,
    Now let’s hope that Hungarian justice works better than the Canadian justice system and 30 years behind bars before eligibility for parole actually means just that”
    olga at September 1, 2010 6:18 PM
    From your lips to God’s ears.
    I have to admit, that is one thing that I hate about our Canadian Justice System…how they pussy foot around the criminals. There are so many loop holes that it resembles knitting.
    That’s what I like about the States…they have no qualms about sentencing people to multiple life sentences…150 years in jail. I love that kind of punishment that is passed down to these animals.
    If I were the victim or a member of the victim’s family…that would help me heal. Knowing that somebody got their cum-up-ins while I was around to see it and not having to leave it in God’s hands.

  16. LHVJ says:

    Kikestander: “paste me an example of something filthier than you write…”
    The only thing I can say in your favor that you are the only Jew here with courage to admit that you are a Jew. It is something.
    Pasting for you people anything in a way of reasoning would be useless. Vándorló proved that. He simply refused to acknowledge the evidence of his awkward Hungarian writing and probably speaking skills and responded with insults. A few of these encounters and one is cautious about taking you people seriously. Even your qualified challenge is a testimony of your dishonesty. Who is to decide that the filth you write is filthier than the filth you claim I write? Would it be vándorló, the village idiot, germjewnazi, cyanide or the ribanc?
    You people insult, smear, and everyone and act surprised when you get some, not all of it back. I have my pet response to any of you calling Jobbik, and Hungarians in general Nazi. If you do not like the link that equally condemns German and Jewish Nazis, do not call others Nazi especially those who like me have no use for Nazis or Communists of any nationality or creed.
    The only thing that pains me that ribanc outshined every one of you in pouring out filth, dirty, sexually explicit filth. I never imagined that a Hungarian woman would sink that low. I suppose that my disappointment gives some of you pleasure. Enjoy.

  17. olga says:

    @ Bystander
    Re: “I’m pretty darn sure that Wolfi, Viking,
    Olga, Vandorlo, FL, JA, and so on are *NOT*
    Jewish!”
    Well, I am not saying we are Jewish but we all go out for bagels with cream cheese once a week
    In case you were wondering why you were never invited, it’s related to a posting of Pavaszem’s
    He wrote something about your not being Jewish – not sure what he meant, but then I seldom understand his convoluted ambiguous postings.
    If you didn’t see the latest “gem” you are lucky but if you want to, it’s within the last week on the “Jewish Cemetery Vandalized” thread somewhere.
    Good news is that unlike me, you may not be personally responsible for Israel’s foreign policy any more.

  18. Bystander says:

    Olga,
    Thanks for the Pava tip! I’ll check that now.
    And Lobottomy if you could send the link to JAs
    profanity that would be great, I’m in the mood for
    entertainment!

  19. Bystander says:

    Olga, I DID re-check that ancient “Jewish cemetery”
    thread (the one that only Pava ‘revives’ each week)
    and I saw that I did already see Pava’s claim that
    I’m not Jewish :) (I wish he would make up his
    MIND!) and I think I commented after that…
    Interesting that the ‘peacock’ hasn’t chimed in yet
    this week… either the Warden put him in the ‘hole’
    for his own benefit (you know how the other
    prisoners feel about him) or his truck lost a wheel
    near the Romanian border…
    I expect to see that “cemetery” thread pop up in
    Recent Comments ANY moment now…

  20. EvaBrowne says:

    Bye my love, see you in 30 years, I will remain
    faithful to you…HH

  21. Viking says:

    Another one going down:
    ‘Budapest prosecutor’s office files charges against suspected war criminal
    By: MTI
    2011-02-15 07:28′
    -
    http://www.caboodle.hu/nc/news/news_archive/single_page/?tx_ttnewstt_news=8759
    -
    “The Budapest prosecutor’s office has filed charges against Sandor Kepiro, a former Hungarian gendarme, for WWII war crimes, the spokesman of the office said on Monday.
    Kepiro, who will turn 97 this week, is accused of having ordered his patrol to shoot civilians to death between January 21 and 23, 1942, during what had gone down to history as “the massacre of Novi Sad”"
    .
    Now we will see ‘elle junk’ share her big tears with us, over this “outrage Orban is persorming”

  22. Common Sense says:

    “The Simon Wiesenthal Centre welcomed Kepiro’s indictment”
    Anything to please these lowlife bastards.
    Another reason why people are getting fed up with Jewish pressure groups. What will happen to the Wiesenthal mafia when they run out of living targets? Are they going to dig up dead ones?
    Or maybe they go after their own war criminals?

  23. Viking says:

    Anything to please these lowlife bastards
    Common Sense at February 15, 2011 11:06 AM

    So why do you not start a FaceBook Revolution with petitioning Orban to stop this?
    ‘ricsi’, ‘law’, ‘elle junk’, 8863, and a few others (‘leto’?) will join you immediately
    If the Egyptians could bring down a dictator of 30 years, you should be able to get Orban’s attention
    Or maybe not

  24. Common Sense says:

    “So why do you not start a FaceBook Revolution with petitioning Orban to stop this?”
    Facebook is for retards. Why support a turd-faced Jewish kid, getting rich of stolen software?
    I don’t want to replace Orban, not until I find someone more capable of doing the job.
    I want to replace the Wiesenthal gang and their kind of arrogant rats.

  25. Viking says:

    Facebook is for retards
    Common Sense at February 15, 2011 1:16 PM

    You never wonder why I recommended FaceBook to you?
    Ah, never mind, you will never figure that one out anyway

  26. wolfi says:

    “a turd-faced Jewish kid, getting rich of stolen software?”
    Do I feel some envy here ?
    “Mark Zuckerberg is now richer than Steve Jobs, according to the Forbes 400 List of People to Tap for a Loan till Pay Day, with a personal fortune of $6.9 billion compared to Jobs’ paltry $6.1 billion.”
    Is that why you hate the Jews ?

  27. Common Sense says:

    “a personal fortune of $6.9 billion compared to Jobs’ paltry $6.1 billion.
    Is that why you hate the Jews ?”
    No, that’s why I hate greedy bastards making billions without creating anything useful. Not all of them are Jews.
    I hate most Jewish organizations, including the enemy within: MAZSIHISZ.
    I’m on the mailing list of the Wiesenthal Center, they don’t keep their agenda a secret. Sign up and you’ll see.