Gabor Ivady, an MP elected in April for the green opposition Politics Can Be Different (LMP) party, announced on Wednesday that he is leaving LMP’s ranks to sit as an independent in the house with immediate effect.
Ivady said he would also resign his party membership, but added that he would not return his mandate and continue working as an independent MP.
A founding member of LMP, Ivady said he has gradually “lost faith in the party”, which he said has adopted liberal politics and now has too much resemblance to the earlier liberal parliamentary party, the Free Democrats (SZDSZ).
With Ivady’s departure, the number of deputies in LMP’s parliamentary group dropped to 15.
A founding member of LMP, Ivady said he has gradually “lost faith in the party”, which he said has adopted liberal politics and now has too much resemblance to the earlier liberal parliamentary party, the Free Democrats (SZDSZ).
note that jobbik has been exactly saying this all along, despite the stupid masses of liberals living in denial.
Brave man,finally realised he was been shit on. Like we always said-LMP=Szdsz.
The new ‘green’LMP is the old red .
RED IS GREEN TODAY. only idiots and the naive fall for it, unfortunately there are many of them….
So LMP equals SZDSZ says a founding member!!!
Notice the total lack of comments from our liberal commentators,Olga,Viking,Wolfi,judas, etc….
Truth is a very hard pill for the naive to swallow.
For me,it is really great to be proved right.:)
Szebb jövőt
Ricsi,
I have to tell you this, but most of Europe is liberal and including Mighty Germany. Our politics is liberal and we believe a market system, not government owned zombie companies.
The supports of Hungarian nationalism are largely losers from the lower middle class. The educated class is more tolerant and more sophisticated.
@Paul and Ricsi: One thing is what Gábor Ivády and kuruc.info say, and another thing is reality or truth.
The truth is that Ivády wanted to steal HUF 500.000 amount for bill of his personal campaign and the party recognised it and didn’t allow this act.
Certanly, therefore he lies and he is disappointed that he could not steal money.
You can find shit men everywhere, e.g. a simple murderer in the Jobbik.
Ha valamit nem értetek csak szóljatok, lefordítom.
(Természetesen nem azért, mert olyan jó vagyok angolból, hanem mert olyan gyenge.)
@Ricsi – Another possibility is that he could have been bought off, to weaken LMP.
Sorry: wrong thread!
@elle:
sorry: wrong TRUTH!
“Green” sounds so pretty and wholesome. It sounds like a form of caring. It is actually, but nothing is free in this world, including caring! Especially caring! Insuring a future for trees and insects and frogs means imposing costs, expenses and lost opportunity costs upon people. Don’t shoot me for saying this, it just happens to be the truth.
No green party has ever commanded a majority in any parliament; no green party has even come close to doing so. I don’t think any green party ever will. Why? Because when people go into the polling booth to vote, they don’t go there to vote for frogs and trees and owls, they go to vote for themselves and their interests which are always economic.
You have to convince people that caring for the environment can keep them prosperous and employed. Such an argument can, in theory be made, but not by the kind of people who are attracted to green parties.
@ Ricsi:
Re: “Notice the total lack of comments from our liberal commentators,Olga,Viking,Wolfi,judas, etc….”
I answered you on another thread – can’t remember which one but some of the postings had to do with Jon Stewart, Obama etc..
There is a form of “green” that deals with new technologies and opportunities. Those who develop alternatives to polluting engines, those who develop clean energy, those who develop recycling have environmentally constructive goals that may also be very profitable. LMP needs a narrative that includes these issues and which will include the average person as well.
When it comes to “green”, Sunday school admonitions and lectures won’t cut it. Build an industry around “green”, hire lots of people, pay them well and maybe the earth will be helped also.
@FL:
I have to correct you regarding the importance of green parties – in Germany in some districts the Greens are the second strongest party and we have had and still have in some states several coalitions with them and the social democrats or the christian democrats respectively ..
So they are an important power in German politics!
Also Germany is a good example that there can be coalitions between the Liberals the Greens and the left (Social Democrats) or the right (Christain Democrats), so it is absolute nonsense what the jobos here typically rant about liberal = left = commie etc.
PS:
Even Britain is being ruled now by a coalition of Liberals and Conservarives …
LMP increasingly exhibits a liberal-anarchistic profile:
this morning Mr. Bajomi, LMP council member in Budapest’s 11th District voiced protest against the presence of a Catholic priest in the music-ornamented constitution sessin of the local govt. AND gave his blessings.
Mr. Bajomi pointed to the Constituiton’s basic principle of separating state and religion which in his Green vision applies also to sublevels of statehood.
In my mind: SELF-Government is self governing, there is no selfer, selfest.
Unless there is a genuinely Jewish party in such local councils to invite a rabbi, one shall try to live without blessings, which otherwise means the blessings (though invisible) by the anarchists.
TibiNagy@ So if the ‘party’ is so honest,why did they not sack there Pécs/Kozarmisleny candidate lady who previously had to resign her lucrative post as deputy head of the local Reformatus Gimnazium for “misappropiation” of school funds?
LMP is SZDSZ, Green is the new RED – Steal and lie hand in hand.
jakabaa, I don’t understand much of your post – why
don’t you repost in Hungarian and I can translate it
for you? If what you wrote is true then the LMP
councillor was upholding the principle of
securalism. Good for him! I am more and more
convinced that I made the right choice when I voted
LMP in the municipal elections.
“Insuring a future for trees and insects and frogs
means imposing costs, expenses and lost
opportunity costs upon people. Don’t shoot me for
saying this, it just happens to be the truth.”
True, but totally irrelevant, Farkas úr. Didn’t
you notice the little environmental problem that
occured in Hungary recently? Are any green parties
worrying about the insects stuck in the mud? No,
they are concerned about the effects on humans. An
environmentally-conscious party would advocate
imposing a cost on the owners of companies such as
MAL in order to protect the people living in their
vicinity.
“they go to vote for themselves and their
interests which are always economic.” Not true,
Farkas úr – most people also have non-economic
interests such as their health and the education
of their children.