The leaking of confidential documents by whistle-blower WikiLeaks is a case of information terrorism, Hungarian parliamentary speaker Laszlo Kover said late on Sunday.
Kover, who was minister without a portfolio overseeing the secret services between 1998 and 2000, said the WikiLeaks affair shows that “it is necessary to tackle” the taboo that surrounds the lack of control in online news reporting and “it is necessary to devise a method to prevent similar cases in the future.”
“Given the leak of the documents was intentional it must be called information terrorism,” Kover said. “If those responsible did not fully realise the weight of their action, then it was a childish act that endangers democracy.”
He said people who protest in support of WikiLeaks enjoyed the benefits of democracy that WikiLeakes undermined.
He said leaks that reveal confidential communication deviating from the standard diplomatic style, thus causing embarrassment to the US Department of State and the affected diplomats, “are less significant.” These will not have a long-lasting effect, he added.
WikiLeaks started publishing the contents of confidential US diplomatic cables on November 28 and plans to make some 251,000 such documents public.
So, ‘leaks that reveal confidential communication deviating from the standard diplomatic style, thus causing embarrassment to the US Department of State and the affected diplomats, “are less significant”‘, but the act is still “information terrorism”
So why not raid all the offices of traditional media that have published info from the leaks?
To protect 3rd parties the leaked info is first being scanned by independent people who tries to block info that could hurt individuals
These people are then obviously “terrorists” then they promote the leaks, and should therefore be immediately arrested
These people are rather well-known for all countries secret services, so what is the Hungarian equivalent waiting for?
Must be between 1-3 people living in Hungary today doing and actively promoting this “terrorism”, but the Hungarian State does nothing?
Words should have effect, or they should not be spoken, especially by one of the most important persons in the Country, the Speaker of the Parliament
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Governments can spy, legally or illegally, on their citizens. But, till the appearance of WikiLeaks, citizens were not entitled to information about those acting on their behalf except in the censored version that governments provide.
Now, we have been given a snapshot of the world as it is, rather than the edited account agreed upon by diverse elites, whose only common interest is the maintenance of their power and our ignorance.
Goverments are not the masters, but the servants of nations.
Laszlo Kover can be called an anti-democracy terrorist. The people have a right to know what is happening in their name, Laszlo Kover would rather the state keeps it’s jack-book on the flow of information. Laszlo Kover is an information terrorist.
Kover has simply tagged with the word “terrorism” an activity of
which he disapproves in order to persuade others to disapprove. It’s
the emptiest of rhetoric.
Anyone know Laszlo Kover’s telephone, fax number & website address?
Köver’s parliamentarian email-address is:
kover.laszlo@parlament.hu
His web-site claims he speaks English
Thanks Viking, Kover.Laszlo@mkogy.hu also looks good
We still do not know who is behind Wikileaks but Kover, a former(?) Communists speaks the party line…
“it is necessary to devise a method to prevent
similar cases in the future.”
Yes, the new media law is rather weak on the
“internet front”…this’ll be a good excuse to
tighten things up. Maybe he has some friends in
China, with their wonderful firewalls, who can help
him control all those pesky free thinkers.
PS His bone-headed thinking even made it to the
Guardian Newspaper.
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What’s really behind those “rape” accusations against Assange you find here:
http://radsoft.net/news/20101001,01.shtml
Two feminist Christian (?) women realising they had sex with the same guy – and getting spiteful …
Now they want “revenge” – or maybe not ?
That article makes for interesting reading, especially since it shows you can’t really delete something that you put on the ‘net once …
That article makes for interesting reading
wolfi at December 14, 2010 6:27 PM
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Yes it does
One should not forget though that what the Swedish Prosecutor just wants is to interview Assange
There is still no decision to prosecute Assange, so all is still very pre-trial
One Swedish Prosecutor has already closed the case without any charge, but another Prosecutor, in another city re-opened the case
They have put down rather much money on this investigation, while other Prosecutors refuse to issue international arrest warrants for 2 Irish musicians who were caught on tape beating up a passenger on a cruise liner. These guys have admitted their guilt in writing for the Swedish Police, but the responsible Prosecutor thinks the crime is to small. The beaten up passenger is still on rehab after one year without full recovery. He will hardly recover and start to work again in his life
But to get Assange to Sweden and refuse to interview over video-link or on the Swedish Embassy in London, then all resources are there
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Just to comment on rumours that Sweden could extradite Assange to the US
Probably not (a lot of legal problems with that) and it would also, according to Swedish law, demand that the UK agrees to the extradition to the US, then Assange would come to Sweden just to be interviewed on these rape charges
More likely that the UK extradites Assange directly, but then there need to be an US arrest warrant on him, which is not known to exist at the moment
Huffington post has much more on the USA and Assange, for example:
Sarah Palin, the former U.S. vice presidential candidate, called Assange “an anti-American operative with blood on his hands” and questioned why he wasn’t “pursued with the same urgency we pursue al-Qaida and Taliban leaders.” Republican Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky described Assange as “a high-tech terrorist,” while Lieberman, another former vice presidential candidate, characterized Assange’s actions as the “most serious violation of the Espionage Act in our history.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/12/09/julian-assange-extradition-hurdles_n_794754.html
This is just one of a series of articles in this “horribile dictu” Liberal online newspaper.
You naive idiots have totally fallen for the wiki scam.Read and learn how easily you are manipulated!
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22389
You naive idiots have totally fallen for the wiki scam
Ricsi at December 14, 2010 7:42 PM
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Obviously “Jobbik” fallen for it also, so we are in Good Company
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http://www.politics.hu/20101210/jobbik-proposes-vetting-committee-on-wikileaks-info-
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But does your language really comply with the latest “Jobbik”-rules for Prime Time use?
Or you switched back to ex-Communist Informer Csurka István now, when you discovered the *real* reason why “Vona” changed his name?
Just a bunch of Mossad-agents, Right?
Areshole viking@ We are not talking about Jobbik (belive me,they know the truth,politics is a game)we are or were talking about Wiklileaks.I know you are too cowardly to read the attached,but just maybe some others here will have the guts to see through this scam before the free internet is closed and you and I can no longer communicate-coming soon…
http://empirestrikesblack.com/2010/12/who-is-behind-wikileaks/
The last sentence from ricsi’s first quoted source:
“In turn, we must ensure that the campaign against Wikileaks in the U.S., using the 1917 Espionage Act, will not be utilized as a means to wage a campaign to control the internet. In this regard, we should also stand firm in preventing the prosecution of Julian Assange in the US.”
Sounds good to me – wonder if ricsi read it at all (he probably gave up long before this …)
I know you are too cowardly to read the attached
Ricsi at December 14, 2010 7:57 PM
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Not coward, but you and your 3 pigs were reading it, so it broke down due too many connection to that SQL-server they never paid the license fee for
But now it was available again and see nad behold, not any complaints on any Jews being behind WikiLeaks, just the Bad MainStream Media
Well, that is his problem
And many people do not like Assange, so they open openleaks.org instead
Which some of your mental friends already calling a CIA-front
Given the fact that *everything* on this planet is run by “jews”, why not “Jobbik”?
To debate WikiLeaks, why would an agreement with a few well-known independent main stream media mean that WikiLeaks suddenly is controlled by Pentagon (which your source claims)?
Evaluate the message, not the messenger
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And Assange/WikiLeaks *never* got a media-license in Sweden, so WikiLeaks is not protected by the maybe strongest publishing rules in the world protecting someone’s sources
The success with WikiLeaks is not Assange or even WikiLeaks, it is the institutionalisation of whistle-blowing over anonymous Internet
OpenLeak is just the first to follow
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And your “Jobbik” is not working for more Free Speech. Hell no, now they will detail what % media should report in every hour, just so we feel “happy”
And you are complaining about WikiLeaks?
Makes sense…
Actually, ‘ricsi’ posts 2 links that goes to the same article, but only the first names the writer, Michel Chossudovsky, a Canadian economist. He is professor of economics (emeritus) at the University of Ottawa
So Canada has its male lunatics also…
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Chossudovsky
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“Chossudovsky claims that the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is actually an operational weapon of mass destruction, with the power to alter the weather, disrupt regional electrical power systems, and modify the Earth’s magnetic field, as well as potentially trigger earthquakes and affect people’s brains.
He has also espoused several 9/11 conspiracy theories, including the “stand-down” of the United States Air Force, the supposed lack or disappearance of airplane debris at the Pentagon, and the “pulling” of 7 World Trade Center. He has also claimed that the invasion of Afghanistan had long been planned by the United States and NATO, with the 9/11 attacks an excuse to justify the war”
A good friend to ‘ricsi’ and his pigs
I found an interesting article about the results
of a scientific study that might be worth looking
at, considering what goes on here at Politics.hu
http://newsjunkiepost.com/2010/12/13/how-our-
brains-threaten-democracy-the-science-behind-self-
delusion/
“A recent cognitive study, as reported by the
Boston Globe, concluded that:
Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change
our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a
series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at
the University of Michigan found that when
misinformed people, particularly political
partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news
stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact,
they often became even more strongly set in their
beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing
misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic,
facts could actually make misinformation even
stronger.
In light of these findings, researchers concluded
that a defense mechanism, which they labeled
“backfire”, was preventing individuals from
producing pure rational thought. The result is a
self-delusion that appears so regularly in normal
thinking that we fail to detect it in ourselves,
and often in others: When faced with facts that
do not fit seamlessly into our individual belief
systems, our minds automatically reject (or
backfire) the presented facts. The result of
backfire is that we become even more entrenched in
our beliefs, even if those beliefs are totally or
partially false.“
@Bystander: The premise of the news article is interesting, but it is difficult to trace the actual published research on which it is based.
A lot of the cognitive biases outlined are clearly documented, but I wouldn’t be so overly pessimistic about people’s ability to reason and be persuaded.
There are strange interaction effects, such as: People are more likely to be persuaded by arguments opposing their beliefs from a person who speaks quickly.
However, rather than outline piecemeal research studies, here at least is a positive effect: “Balanced arguments are more persuasive” http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/11/balanced-arguments-are-more-persuasive.php
Better still, the article clearly links to the original scientific research studies.
p.s. Other articles on the blog are interesting too and very easy to read.
People are more likely to be persuaded by arguments opposing their beliefs from a person who speaks quickly
Vándorló at December 15, 2010 9:38 AM
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Aahh, now I got the explanation why these “Jobbik” MP/MEPs always talk like a machine-gun
And never let the fact that anyone else is trying to say something interrupt them
Just check out the next interview on TV
Thanks for the link Vandorlo, I’ll check that out!
Interesting about that fast-speaking thing, I never
heard that before, but it makes sense –
IwonderifItypelikethisIcanbemorepersuasive…
The article was interesting, though a quick one!
Saw this link at the bottom of that article — I
thought it was kind of funny for Politics.hu:
http://www.spring.org.uk/2010/10/the-persuasive-
power-of-swearing.php
@Bystander:
Thanks for that link – the best piece of information I consider this:
“In the 1939 film Gone with the Wind, after Rhett Butler’s famous line “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn”, the producer, David Selznick, was fined $5,000 for this ‘shocking’ outburst.”
How much could we then get from Law for his swearings ?
His arguments are really pervasive …
@Wolfi –
He should at least cough up 5,000 HUF… I might be
able to buy a few bottles of aspirin for all the
headaches he’s induced…