January 28th, 2011

Thousands protest media law

Several thousand people protested against Hungary’s media law and demanded freedom for the press in front of the parliament building on Thursday.

Head of Amnesty International Hungary Orsolya Jeney called on the government to withdraw the entire legislation or to change it “with regard to the freedom of expression and the press, as well as the rights of access to information.”

Jeney said that AI had sent letters to several Hungarian embassies in the world with the organisation’s objections against the law. According to AI, the legislation unnecessarily and disproportionately curtails liberties, it allows for heavy fines stipulated by “vague” provisions, and it “raises questions” about the Media Council’s neutrality.

Another speaker, Balazs Denes, head of the Hungarian Civil Liberties Union, said that “critical voices cannot be silenced” against the “censorship law”.

Smaller demonstrations were staged in Szeged (S), Debrecen (E), Pecs (S), and Gyula (SE).

The protests were organised on Facebook.

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  • Yawn

    Morons.
    The country is broke, no money, no jobs, no hope for recovery in the forseeable future, and the only thing people are so worked up about is some media law, most of them are not even familiar with.
    Pathetic.

  • Szabad Ember

    The moron is the one who doesn’t realize that wealthy, successful countries have free speech and countries without free speech are almost universally poor and unpleasant places to live for most of their population. The only exceptions are countries with enough oil to export most of it. China is wealthy only because of its size – most of its people are dirt poor and miserable. Free speech is part of the necessary mix of freedoms that can lead to economic success. If Hungary wants to be economically successful, it needs to keep its media free, and this law will do the opposite.

  • Leto

    It’s so funny that all those postcommie newspapers display a front page saying “the freedom of press has ceased to exist in Hungary” and then they carry on publishing poignant, shrewd and stinging political attacks on the government. 🙂

  • they carry on publishing poignant, shrewd and stinging political attacks on the government. 🙂
    Leto at January 29, 2011 10:15 PM

    Could there be three reasons for this:
    a) The new law pn printed press does not start to work until the Summer?
    .
    b) They are playing on the probably fact that the new Media Authority will not fine them during the EC-scrutiny
    .
    c) They just want to have a fine asap, so they can make more noise later, like “what did we tell you!”

  • Leto

    Apparently this is the talk of the day in Hungary now and this news really belongs in here. 🙂
    One of the chief organizers of these demonstrations, and he was also a speaker on these protests, journalist Tibor Bakács has become a shoplifter. He’s also a frequent performer on TV and radio. And he’s an extremist postcommie.
    http://hvg.hu/itthon/20110207_lopason_kaptak_bakacs
    He claimed he did the shoplifting because he had no money and he was hungry. He stole a bar of salami worth of 2000 HUF.
    Oh, well, he’s quite choosy if it comes to food … even when he’s really hungry.
    Earlier he lost a libel case and he claimed he wouldn’t pay and he’d rather go to jail. He was very upset that one prison day would be worth only 1000 HUF for him, given his qualifications.
    http://www.stop.hu/articles/article.php?id=568110
    (In the end the appellate court gave him only a warning.)

  • journalist Tibor Bakács has become a shoplifter. Leto at February 7, 2011 9:47 PM

    Given the fact that he stole from Tesco, should he not be getting The Hungarian Freedom Medallion of The Highest Valour?
    Stealing from the Rich Multies, must be a Communist, ohh sorry I meant Hungarian Nationalist of course

  • Patriot

    It’s your patriotic duty to steal from tesco.

  • Leto

    MSZP’s radio station (Klub rádió) has suspended the shoplifter from his presenter job … for a whole month! 🙂
    “We think society needs at least a month to digest this thing”, editor-in-chief Ferenc Vicsek Ferenc said. 😀
    Come on, don’t deprive all those eager MSZP-fans of the chief organizer of these civil demonstrations!
    I’m pretty sure these (mostly Gyurcsány-fan) radio listeners have already forgiven him. He was hungry after all. And that was certainly because the fascist Orbán-regime is after this champion of freedom rights and democratic values. Poor opposition journalists are starving to death and they are being fired from their jobs in Orbán’s dictatorship. Help, Europe!

  • radio station (Klub rádió) has suspended the shoplifter from his presenter job … for a whole month!
    Leto at February 8, 2011 12:26 PM

    It is a good question how much an employee doing on their free-time unrelated to their terms of contract, should suffer on their work-place
    But maybe “suspended” here does still mean full payment?

  • Leto

    The shoplifter has been dismissed from his job at those “civil”(*) demonstrations. 😀
    Why is this poor thief suffering because of his free-time activities, unrelated to the terms of his being a champion of the free press and a freedom fighter against the brutal Orbán-dictatorship? 🙂
    http://hvg.hu/itthon/20110208_bakacs_tibor_sajtoszabadsag
    (*) ROFLMAO, bruhaha and all that…
    PS: “bruhaha” is Hungarian and it expresses a roaring laughter (this remark was made for the benefit of Bystander)

  • @Leto: ‘”bruhaha” is Hungarian’, no it’s used in English, too and comes from French. The English and French meaning of ‘brouhaha’ isn’t so base or primitive.

  • Leto

    I know and it doesn’t matter at all.

  • @Leto: You didn’t know, piss stain; otherwise you wouldn’t have mentioned it and tried to define it. The first law of discourse relevance is parsimony. If you had known you would have used the word closer in meaning to the English, though from a completely different source i.e. katzenjammer. But this is just another zsákbamacska from you.

  • Leto

    I had known it. That’s why I made a reference to a certain Bystander who is similarly desperate in trying to trump me like you are. 🙂 Why don’t you focus on the topic instead, i.e. the shoplifting freedom fighter who used to be behind these “civil” demonstrations? 😉

  • @Leto: “I had known it.” You had known it and now you don’t? You do know how to use the past perfect, don’t you?
    And you take advice on Hungarian language and idioms you don’t know from a foreigner, too?
    Sad bastard!

  • Leto

    😀 You poor soul…
    I see you don’t feel like chatting about the postcommie freedom fighter shoplifter. I do understand.
    He said he’s really a very inexperienced shoplifter, that’s why he was caught, so make sure you follow his lead only in matters of high moral issues. You know, for example the freedom of press (according to the preferences of postcommie bastards like him and you) 🙂

  • justasking

    @ Vandor,
    This is how it all started:
    ROTFL
    Bruhahaha. 😀
    http://index.hu/video/2011/01/15/nem_vagyunk_zombik_tuntetes_a_sajtoszabadsagert/
    Leto at January 17, 2011 1:53 AM @Leto/Lido/Linda:
    Your English sucks too —
    “Bruhahaha” isn’t the sound of mischievous
    laughter as you probably intended… that’s
    “mwahahahah” or something like that…
    A “Bruhaha” is noise or a disturbance:
    brouhaha [ˈbruːhɑːhɑː]
    n
    a loud confused noise; commotion; uproar
    [French, of imitative origin]
    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/brouhaha
    But we forgive you — they probably didn’t teach
    you that in your “Commie College for loyal Party
    Members”.
    Bystander at January 17, 2011 6:36 PM @Bystander:
    No doubt my English may suck. My excuse is that my mother tongue is Hungarian and I didn’t speak English until I was about 20. Is that the case with you, too?
    Actually I meant to say this in Hungarian because I just didn’t how to express a roaring laughter in English.
    And Olga says that I have claws?

  • The shoplifter has been dismissed from his job at those “civil”(*) demonstrations
    Leto at February 8, 2011 2:30 PM

    Did he have an employment contract?
    Are the “”civil”(*) demonstrations” to be seen as an employer?
    So why are you doing these comparisons?
    We really understand that you have an urgent need to mix everything and remove any form of job security in Hungary, then The Great Leader just needs *loyal* supporters, as The Great Leader just needs *loyal* opposition

  • Leto

    Bakács was a member of jury Megasztár (a Hungarian talent show similar to the Bristish X-Factor), which made him a “celebrity”. This fame was clearly very important when he was chosen to be the face of these so-called civil demonstrations.
    His nickname, which he uses as a brand name, is “Settenkedő” (Sneaker). Now it’s become clear why.

  • Leto

    “One of the best friends”* of the postcommie shoplifter said:
    “Our troubles would be solved, for example, if a TV station would be established where we could go to. Obviously there’s no chance for that.”
    Hey, what about ATV, the MSZP party TV channel? Ah, he answers this: “we haven’t been on the payroll list of either the Socialist or Fidesz”.
    No, you were actually on the payroll list of SZDSZ. But SZDSZ is gone, so is Mr. Kóka with his red helicopter and 2 million HUF watch. So “liberal” journalist are hungry… for salami. Why not for caviar?
    Para-Kovács “hopes that after the events of the last few days people’s eyes would open up and they’d stand up for themselves”.
    This sentence immediately follows the description of the pitiful finances of his thief friend (“he has to live on about 150 thousand netto Forints and he has to pay child allowance and his debt to the tax office”**), so he must have referred to his friend’s shoplifting.
    *Imre Para-Kovács is certainly the very same kind of postcommie (“liberal” in their parlance) journalist like the thief himself.
    ** the shoplifter failed to pay taxes and health insurance for SIX years and now he must pay up!
    http://www.napiaszonline.hu/aktualis/parakovacs_imre_alkalmi_osszegekbol_tartjuk_fent_magunkat_26424

  • Bakács was a member of jury Megasztár
    Leto at February 8, 2011 6:48 PM

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

    I have no interest in Bakács
    I do not know him, probably never saw him, but your diarrhoea about him is telling about you:
    * Messenger everything, Message nothing

    But this you have already declared earlier – “Who does it serve” is your political axiom
    That kind of attitude make it possible to support Saddam Hussein because he is against the US and the ‘multies’ (read US)
    Not really impressive and you seem to got stuck on a 16 yo level of argumentation
    But that may have a reason…

  • Leto

    The thief is selling his “story of shoplifting” for several hundreds of thousands Forints… And he’s not only selling it, he’s being paid!
    http://www.mediatica.ro/hirek/szines/50578/bakacs-szazezrekert-adja-el-a-lopas-sztorijat.html
    This is so damned typical of the sick morals of these “left-liberal celebrities”. Really appalling.

  • justasking

    @Leto,
    “The thief is selling his “story of shoplifting” for several hundreds of thousands Forints… And he’s not only selling it, he’s being paid!”
    Hey, they’re paying the guy money for his story. So obviously whoever is buying it for this much money, plans on turning around and making more money with this ‘story of shoplifting’.
    Obviously there is a ‘market’ for it.

  • Leto

    @justasking:
    Yup. Besides this kind of media filth, obviously there’s a market for illegal hard drugs and child pornography, too. The question is if the existence of these markets should be tolerated in a civilized country or not.

  • Anti-Leto

    Typical post-commie behavior. Distract from real issues by focusing on personalities instead of issues.

    Poor Leto hears the news that Hungary will agree to EU’s demands to harmonize its media law and all he can do is just keep repeating this unimportant news about a Salami thief.

  • Leto

    The question of changing some commas or words in some law isn’t interesting anymore.
    The fact that this salami thief has been the face of these so-called civil demonstrations is. This is what Hungary is talking about, not about those commas.:)

  • Leto

    Here goes another so-called “left-liberal” friend:
    “According to the public opinion in Hungary today, intellectuals lives and lifestyles are success stories, safe financials, impressive carrier, carefree future. Common practice doesn’t validate this misbelief. Bakács’ life story is an example.”
    http://hvg.hu/velemeny/20110209_sebok_bakacs_ertelmiseg
    “Bruhaha” again. First, Bakács is certainly not an “értelmiségi” (intellectual) (maybe he used to be). Bakács is a “celebrity” and a media footman of the postcommies.
    Second his ilk now tries to make this shoplifter look like a victim of “the circumstances” for the time being.
    But you bet he’ll be a victim of Orbán in the end.

  • Curious George

    @Leto In the space of 4 hours, you’ve made references about insulting families, and using words like “filth”, “child pornography”, “rape”, “ilk” on just 2 threads. Really sad!

  • Leto

    Let’s not leave out “Curious George” from this list since I also made references to that thing.

  • Besides this kind of media filth, obviously there’s a market for illegal hard drugs and child pornography, too. The question is if the existence of these markets should be tolerated in a civilized country or not
    Leto at February 9, 2011 3:43 PM

    So this is how you portrait The Great Leader and his censors?
    Anything that can be deemed as filth, *including* Bakács’ “story” (of which I would probably not read), is supposed to be illegal
    I actually seriously doubt you are any kind of Fidesz-supporter
    You are just out to make Fidesz look bad
    And you are doing a good job about it

  • justasking

    @Leto,
    “Yup. Besides this kind of media filth, obviously there’s a market for illegal hard drugs and child pornography, too. The question is if the existence of these markets should be tolerated in a civilized country or not”
    I really don’t understand what you’re getting so upset about this guy being presented with an opportunity to sell his story. Although, I must admit, I don’t know why anybody would want to buy it…that’s just my opinion though.
    Unless the Government bought his story using tax payers money…who cares? A privately owned company, for some reason, thinks this story is going to sell. Whoop Dee doo!
    There is no accounting for some people’s taste; but, I hardly feel that illegal drugs and child porn fall into the category of accounting peoples taste.
    Poor taste is poor taste…illegal activity is illegal activity.
    PS: If somebody asked me for my story and said they’d pay me a several hundreds thousands dollars for it…Hell, where do I sign.

  • Leto

    So here goes another from that ilk:
    István Verebes, a ‘liberal’ (postcommie) journalist, a TV talk-show man, etc. said he doesn’t condemn what Bakács did and he thinks this is a kind of a rebelling in a certain sense.
    Similarly to Para-Kovács, Verebes also hopes that “people will open up their eyes” in this case.
    http://www.napiaszonline.hu/bulvar/verebes_istvan_nem_erzi_felelosnek_magat_bakacs_helyzete_miatt_26450

  • Anti-Leto

    “The question of changing some commas or words in some law isn’t interesting anymore.” Are you really that dense to think that they are just making copy edits to the law? Or are you simply unable to absorb information that goes counter to the tiny bubble you live in?

    The outcry regarding the media law came from many quarters and 1000’s of people in positions of authority in those quarters. You are a silly little man for dismissing criticism of the law just because one of those 1000’s stole a salami. Do you get how inane you come off? Do you get that Fidesz itself has realized it must make changes to the law? And I don’t know anybody of any worth that has disagreed with the parts of the law that deal with pornography. Stop acting like such a post-commie.

  • Leto

    Yet another quite from Para-Kovács:
    “Has anybody got an idea to avoid that Bakács’ soon-to-be-born baby would starve? If there isn’t then you all should shut up now!”
    Now this is becoming a real cheesy soup opera. People will soon start donating to the tax evading salami thief who is selling his shoplifting story for good money on TV.

  • Leto

    quote

  • Leto

    A few days earlier, the shoplifter postcommie ‘freedom fighter’ said that he earns so miserably little that he didn’t have money left for food and he was hungry. Now he clarified what he meant by that “miserably little”: “After paying the mortgage, the bills and the tax debts, I had 80 thousand Forints left and I couldn’t make both ends meet with that.”
    FYI, a lot of people in Hungary earn 80 thousands altogether. Or actually less.

  • DoubleH63

    @Leto
    Here is the ‘Starving Trio’ (Para-Kovács Imre, Bakács Tibor, Wahorn András)
    http://s.sziget.hu/content/_common/images/volt/wahbakpar_0604.jpg

  • the shoplifter postcommie ‘freedom fighter’
    Leto at February 10, 2011 12:33 PM

    So when are you coming clear about your statements that:
    * The US Government supported MSZP in the Hungarian Elections 2002
    * Under-aged prostitutes makes it willingly and voluntarily
    .
    Maybe we can count in those statements into your ‘filth-category’ that should be banned?

  • Leto

    @DoubleH63:
    Oh, they look worse than famine victims in the Sahel belt indeed.
    Bakács Tiborc… Sorry, this will be understandable only for Hungarians: Tiborc is a starving serf in a famous Hungarian drama and opera (Bánk bán)
    http://hetivalasz.hu/jegyzet/bakacs-tiborc-35348/

  • Leto

    The postcommie “freedom fighters” are making this into moral stories about “the misery and rebellion of the intellectuals” (you know, it’s 9 months of Fidesz rule what put these creatures into such a poverty that they HAVE to steal salami)
    Now the truth: The ex-face of these so-called civil demonstrations, a militant postcommie media footman, a talkshow presenter at the radio channel of MSZP, was doing his weekly shopping. He bought all sort of food but he didn’t have enough money on him to buy that salami. So he stole it.

  • Leto

    Oh, yet another info snippet: The starving shoplifter* used his car to go to the supermarket.
    * whose soon-to-be-born baby needs to be saved from starving (see above)

  • The starving shoplifter* used his car to go to the supermarket
    Leto at February 10, 2011 1:29 PM

    So when are you coming clear about your statements that:
    * The US Government supported MSZP in the Hungarian Elections 2002
    * Under-aged prostitutes makes it willingly and voluntarily
    .
    Maybe we can count in those statements into your ‘filth-category’ that should be banned?

  • Leto

    Ah, he was together with his new girlfriend when he stole the salami bar.
    “We bought bread, onions, potatoes, it was a weekly shopping. I walked to salamis several times but I did know I didn’t have enough money for that. Then, I don’t know why, I still took it.”, the postcommie shoplifter, the ex-face of these so-called civil demonstrations, an archetype of “European intellectuals” (see above for more examples: Verebes, Para-Kovács, Sebők) said in a TV interview where he told his story.
    This shoplifting committed by this iconic postcommie figure is something “European intellectuals”, like him, are trying to turn into a story of “rebellion against the regime, a desperate action of a starving intellectual”.
    He was paid 100 thousand Forints for this interview.
    “http://atv.hu/bulvar/20110210_100_000_forintot_kapott_a_lopos_sztoriert_bakacs

  • Leto

    @justasking:
    Perhaps you don’t quite understand why this whole story is “cseppben a tenger” (“a drop showing the sea”, BTW what’s the English idiom for this Hungarian idiom?)
    Look what those so-called “European intellectuals” wrote above.
    And here’s another one:
    Using this shoplifting story as a motive, another typical individual of this unique species (TGM, Miklós Tamás Gábor) nicely blended sentences, in a recent article on Hírszerző, like
    “so Orbán said in his big speech that crimes cannot be palliated by birth, difficult circumstances, good political connections or well-connected professional social networks in the international scene”* with trying to fend off public disgust from his corrupt philosopher friends (Ms. Heller and her lot).
    * Mr. Orbán said this in his state-of-the-nation speech indeed. TGM uses this quote to imply the philosophers are being persecuted for political reasons and this shoplifter is a victim, too, in the end somehow.
    Do you get it now why this is much,much more than a tabloid story?

  • he was together with his new girlfriend when he stole the salami bar
    Leto at February 10, 2011 2:45 PM

    So when are you coming clear about your statements that:
    * The US Government supported MSZP in the Hungarian Elections 2002
    * Under-aged prostitutes makes it willingly and voluntarily
    .
    Maybe we can count in those statements into your ‘filth-category’ that should be banned?

  • Leto

    According the latest info, it’s more like several hundreds of thousands Forints what the shoplifting (postcommie) “European intellectual” and “media celebrity” got rather than 100000 HUF only.
    Shoplifting seems to pay off well for this petty thief.
    http://hirszerzo.hu/shake/20110210_hajdu_frizbi_bakacs_gazsi

  • the shoplifting (postcommie) “European intellectual” and “media celebrity” got rather than 100000 HUF only
    Leto at February 10, 2011 4:16 PM

    So when are you coming clear about your statements that:
    * The US Government supported MSZP in the Hungarian Elections 2002
    * Under-aged prostitutes makes it willingly and voluntarily
    .
    Maybe we can count in those statements into your ‘filth-category’ that should be banned?

  • Leto

    @olga:
    I think you should read up on this story here if you do want to understand Hungarian politics better. See yourself how the shoplifter’s “European intellectual” friends reacted.

  • justasking

    @ Leto,
    “(“a drop showing the sea”, BTW what’s the English idiom for this Hungarian idiom?)”
    The only thing that comes to my mind is the saying ‘a drop in the bucket’….
    “Do you get it now why this is much,much more than a tabloid story?”
    Okay, I get where your coming from.
    Here you have a man (Bakács) who obviously is living way beyond his means and is using the victim card as an excuse for steeling. Then, wrapped into a packaged as a problem created/caused by Fidesz. That about right?
    Okay, but, you do realise that MSZP (and everybody who has ever benefited from their power and abuse) are not going to go without a fight? They’re going to fight hard and dirty to get back to where they were?
    So, why isn’t say Echo TV, not running a show on how the ‘average’ Hungarian is living and on what, then use this guy as a ‘what’s he complaining about’ kind of comparison?
    It will show him for what his is and more then likely embarrass the individuals who so publicly defended his actions of shoplifting.
    I don’t know what else to say to you other then Orban better get himself a better PR advisor.
    Oh, and your doing it again with the ‘post-commie’ word. Everybody knows who you’re talking about, so why not in future reference them as ‘the entitled ones’ or something like that…just as long as you have a list of titles to rotate with.
    Leave the title of ‘post-commie’ for when your really, really mad :))

  • Anti-Leto

    As an antidote to the tabloid dribble being posted here in a sophomoric attempt to distract from the real issues regarding the media law:

    http://hungarianwatch.wordpress.com/2011/02/09/hungarian-watch-exclusive-interview-with-peter-molnar-fidesz-party-co-founder-part-2-of-3/

    And a chance for Leto to be real fool and call this guy a post-commie. He never was a member of the communist party but rather one of the co-founders of Fidesz.

  • olga

    @ Leto
    Re: “Márpedig az izgalmas történetnek számít, hogy egy kereskedelmi csatorna egykori sztárja olyannyira elszegényedett, hogy szalámit kell lopnia. Így gondolhatta ezt Hajdú Péter is, aki a Blikk információi szerint több százezer forintot ígért Bakács Tibor Settenkedőnek, ha elmeséli a műsorában lopása történetét.”
    So : A journalist walked out of a store without paying for a salami and he is offered 100 thousands of Forints to tell his harrowing “suspenseful” adventure. Where exactly does the “izgalmas” come in?
    Is this a joke and my Hungarian is not good enough to miss the sarcasm and the article actually implies this is the biggest non-news of 2011?

  • Leto

    @olga:
    I read the whole article and I couldn’t see much sarcasm in that sentence. “Izgalmas” is better translated as “thilling” or perhaps “gripping” here. The above quotes from his buddies weren’t jokes either. BTW, actually Mr. Bakács was paid *several* hundreds of thousands of Forints for his petty theft.
    @justaking:
    No, “a drop in the bucket” means that something is too insignificant compared to something else. Here the meaning of the phrase is that something small characterizes something huge very well.
    Yes, your summary is about right. Bakács is a victim of whatever and his “thrilling shoplifting story” is not what it is in fact.
    Certainly they only imply that this is because of the 9 month Fidesz rule.
    All this reveals much about these “left-liberal intellectuals”.
    Yup, unfortunately Orbán is simply awful at choosing his PR advisors. And sometimes even more important people.

  • olga

    @ Leto and justasking
    Interesting concept that stealing salami is “izgalmas” and marketable, and is stealing a chicken is petty theft.

  • justasking

    @Olga,
    “Interesting concept that stealing salami is “izgalmas” and marketable, and is stealing a chicken is petty theft”
    I don’t understand what you mean by this?
    If you mean that some are finding this story ‘exciting’ because finally a person who had it all, lost is all and is reduced to stealing a salami because of his own arrogance…
    I’m not finding this story exciting….
    Besides, stealing a chicken from some elderly person in rural Hungary…is so 80’s :))
    ( Yes, for the love of Pete…I’m being sarcastic)
    @ Leto,
    ” Here the meaning of the phrase is that something small characterizes something huge very well”
    ” storm in a tea cup’:
    this is when people are making more of something then it actually is, blowing something all out of proportion…is this what you mean?

  • Leto

    @olga:
    Well, unless you’re a “European intellectual” ,a.k.a. a media worker, a philosopher*, a writer, etc. of the select and right** type , then stealing salami is still petty theft and it’s not quite marketable, I’m afraid.
    * Say, TGM is one.
    ** No, wait… they actually call themselves as “left”

  • Leto

    @justasking:
    No, that’s “vihar egy pohár vízben” (storm in a glass of water) or “vihar a biliben” (storm in the night pot). 🙂
    “Mint cseppben a tenger” is a short version of “úgy tükröződik benne, mint vízcseppben a tenger”. The idea is that something tiny, which is part of something huge, describes what the big thing is about.
    There exist also “cseppben a tenger” which is exactly the same as “a drop in the bucket” or “a drop in the sea”
    All right, maybe there isn’t a corresponding English idiom, don’t lose any sleep over it. 🙂

  • olga

    @ justasking
    I think the salami story is interesting for 10 minutes because a well known person stealing salami would be news anywhere, but the 5 minutes of fame is extending into a lucrative business for this guy
    If it makes YouTube, I will watch when he ” elmeséli a műsorában lopása történetét.”
    Curious to find out how “I walked out without paying for the salami” could be made into a “tortenet”
    Very bad taste to compare stealing salami with stealing chicken unless both items were taken from a Supermarket; having anything stolen from a person’s home would be a very frightening experience, so I have come to the conclusion it was another olga who must have posted that remark.

  • justasking

    @ Leto,
    Huh?! (picture also the the left side of my lip is curled as I’m saying this)
    It started like this:
    Leto said: “Perhaps you don’t quite understand why this whole story is “cseppben a tenger”…BTW what’s the English idiom for this Hungarian idiom?)
    I replied: “The only thing that comes to my mind is the saying ‘a drop in the bucket'”….
    Leto says: “No, “a drop in the bucket” means that something is too insignificant compared to something else. Here the meaning of the phrase is that something small characterizes something huge very well”
    Zsuzsa then says: “storm in a tea cup’:
    “this is when people are making more of something then it actually is, blowing something all out of proportion…is this what you mean?”
    Leto replies back: “No, that’s “vihar egy pohár vízben” (storm in a glass of water) or “vihar a biliben” (storm in the night pot). & “”Mint cseppben a tenger” is a short version of “úgy tükröződik benne, mint vízcseppben a tenger”.
    “There exist also “cseppben a tenger” which is exactly the same as “a drop in the bucket”
    Quick recap:
    a)”cseppben a tenger”…BTW what’s the English idiom for this Hungarian idiom?)
    b)’a drop in the bucket’
    c) “No”
    d)”There exist also “cseppben a tenger” which is exactly the same as “a drop in the bucket”
    e) Huh? (lip is still curled)
    Now, I know that sometime I miss read posts…but what am I missing here?

  • justasking

    @ Olga,
    ” the salami story is interesting for 10 minutes because a well known person stealing salami would be news anywhere, but the 5 minutes of fame is extending into a lucrative business for this guy”
    I’m with you on this one…I can’t believe we’re still talking about it with all the shit that is happening in this world.
    Hey!!! Did you here that Donald Trump is 98% sure that he’s going to be going to run for President on behalf of the Republican Party?
    Seriously…he said it himself last night on the ‘Piers Morgans Tonight’ show on CNN….okay well he said that he was going to make his official announcement on or just before June…then told the audience all the things that he would do if he was President.
    Who’d a thunk?!

  • Leto

    @justasking:
    I might have easily garbled it up and I don’t feel like checking but this is the thing:
    “cseppben a tenger” (‘a drop of water in the sea’) = a drop in the bucket
    “mint cseppben a tenger” (‘like a drop of water reflecting the sea’) = ??

  • Leto

    Damn, the first one is “csepp a tengerben” of course. Sorry.

  • Leto

    So here goes yet another of those “European intellectuals” aka postcommie media workers, the infamous Iván Andrassew:
    “Then the terrible moment happened. He hid that salami somewhere. It’s obvious he wasn’t at his wits… I imagine recently he lived through that he couldn’t feed his children.”
    Some other typical sentences from Andrassew’s writing:
    “In addition the new administration came. The regime of utter revenge.”
    “My environment is full of anxious (worrying) people. They are intellectuals, with multiple degrees. They are completely helpless.”
    “Maybe Bakács should have sit in the street, somewhere, and he should have begged. I would have joined him if he asks me to.”
    Once again for the facts: Mr. Bakács drove to a supermarket and he did his weekly shopping with his new girlfrined. He bought a number of things but he didn’t have enough money for a bar of salami. Since he’s got an overdeveloped sense of entitlement, which is so characteristic of his kind, he stole the salami.
    http://mandiner.hu/cikk/20110209_ami_bakacsot_illeti

  • “European intellectuals” aka postcommie media workers
    Leto at February 11, 2011 2:12 PM

    So when will ‘leto’ come clear about her statements that:
    * The US Government supported MSZP in the Hungarian Elections 2002
    * Under-aged prostitutes makes it willingly and voluntarily
    .
    Maybe we can count in those statements into her ‘filth-category’ that should be banned?

  • Leto

    The postcommie journalist thief wanted a bit of cheese and some more, too. 😀 However he managed to dump those under the table while the guards didn’t look.
    Watch the video: http://www.hirtv.hu/belfold?article_id=365327&highlight_text=Bak%E1cs
    I read he said in the interview, which he was paid “several hundreds of thousands Forints” for, that stealing the salami was a sudden and quick act, like a mental shortcut for a moment, which he cannot account for. Well, apparantly he had a few more moments like that, one after the other. Salami and cheese, etc. are definitely placed on the same shelves.

  • Anti-Leto

    Leto, your act is getting stale. Still stuck on the same bit of
    gossip. I guess it keeps your mind of the fact that OV caved
    on the EU criticisms of the media law.

  • Leto

    Nope, this new development is not stale at all. It’s breaking news. 🙂 So the postcommie media footman, chief organizer of these so-called civil demonstrations, journalist and thief lied big time in the several hundreds of thousands Forint interview, too. He systematically stole several things. Now he’s facing new charges and fines. Maybe it’s time for another interview like that?

  • So the postcommie media footman, chief organizer of these so-called civil demonstrations, journalist and thief lied big time in the several hundreds of thousands Forint interview, too
    Leto at February 17, 2011 9:52 PM

    After *all* those revelations, do you think the European Commission in Brussels will have a 2nd though and say:
    * “Nae forget it Hungary. We do not care about changing your New Media Law”?

    Talking about stealing:

    http://www.realdeal.hu/20110216/wellconnected-insurance-company-wins-tender-for-covering-wellconnected-public-employees

    Like me losing both my Family Doctor and Laywer to the Fidesz Ministers last year, do I need to add that of course we also fixed an insurance in CIG Pannónia Életbiztosító Nyrt last year?
    We just love those Fidesz money, so do not accuse us of thinking money smells and putting politics above business. Never would do that. Money is out there to be taken, so why not?

  • Leto

    Oops, I meant that salami, cheese and other stuff this postcommie journalist, shoplifter and public face of these so-called “civil demonstrations”, allegedly to defend the freedom of press, are definitely NOT placed on the very same shelves.
    So the exposed postcommie anchorman must have done quite a tour in the supermarket and he had those “brief mental blackouts” several times. How interesting that he failed to mention these in the interview which he was paid several hundreds of thousands Forints.. Ah, yes, he said he was VERY hungry and he had no money. Fortunately he had money to fill up the tank of his car so that he could drive to the supermarket. It would have been really bad if he had to cheat on the bus, too, because he had no 4500 HUF (2500 HUF for the salami and 2000 HUF for the other stuff he hid in front of the security cam) and he would have been caught by a controller, aren’t I right?
    Now let’s shed some tears for this postcommie who is starved to death by the brutal Orban-regime.. See above what his left-liberal friends wrote in their media whose freedom is threatened by the new media law. All this must be really some plot to smear this immaculate man and the freedom movement he stands for…

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