May 3rd, 2011

Former PM Gyurcsány wants Socialist Party to vote on six questions

Former Socialist PM Ferenc Gyurcsány has revealed six questions he expects his party to vote on.

The first three questions are related to party economics. He would like to ask his fellow party members if they agreed that the same regulations should apply to officials of the party which apply to MPs when creating their asset reports. He also wants party members to say whether they agreed that the party’s ethics committee should check these reports. Also, he wants them to say whether they agreed that the party should create regulations to make party economics more transparent.

The fourth question inquires whether they agreed that party members should not hold more than one post in the party; the fifth if they agreed that the party president should be elected directly by members; and the sixth if they agreed that presidents of local organizations of the party should be elected directly by members of the organizations.

“These questions do not divide the party but unite it,” Gyurcsány wrote on Facebook.

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  1. Leto says:

    Despite the protests by MSZP president Mesterházy and other MSZP leaders, Gyurcsány started collecting signatures. :) )) What a great fight! Every punch goes to the right place.
    Ah, and Gyurcsány ‘waives his MP immunity right’ … even though that’s illegal. He could do that only in a case of committing an offense (like speeding). For crimes, what he’ll be charged with, this is the responsibility of the Parliament, the MP himself is subject to the decision of the Parliament and he’s got no choice.
    http://www.privatbankar.hu/cikk/hircentrum/gyurcsany_lemond_mentelmi_jogarol_pedig_nem_is_mondhat_le_42641

  2. Viking says:

    Gyurcsány ‘waives his MP immunity right’ … even though that’s illegal
    Leto at May 4, 2011 6:00 PM

    Oohh, then Fidesz can prosecute him for that ‘crime’ then?
    It is hardly “illegal”, just not ‘valid’
    It is more a moral/political thing, where Gyurcsány states he will not resist the order to lift his immunity
    Resist here is more to stand up in Parliament and argue that the immunity should not be lifted, asking MPs to vote no to it
    Maybe the MSZP MPs will vote no, maybe they will abstain
    Fidesz and “Jobbik” will most likely vote yes, LMP also probably
    Lifting the immunity is not that the MPs decide that Gyurcsány is guilty or not, then it is not their thing to decide that
    The previous Parliament denied the request for lifting the immunity for the MDF leadership at that time and the Prosecutor had to wait until they were not re-elected into the next Parliament, before pressing charges in a very suspect case, where the whistle-blowers got the punishment and the criminal walked free

  3. Leto says:

    Act LV. 1990.
    6.§
    1. The member of Parliament shall not waive his immunity right – with the exception of an offense procedure. (In this case) this right must be respected by everybody.
    http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mentelmi_jog

  4. Leto says:

    Nobody else supports Gyurcsány’s idea. :D
    Opinions from the MSZP flock:
    István Hiller: it’s a strategic mistake.
    Zoltán Fekete: it’s highly risky.
    Ferenc Baja: “Gyurcsány is unmasking himself, the whole process (initiative) is pointless and immoral”.
    http://nol.hu/belfold/gyurcsany_egyedul_maradt_

  5. Leto says:

    Tibor Szanyi’s opinion: these are untimely fake questions, MSZP doesn’t accept ultimatums, we wouldn’t mind if Gyurcsány left the party
    In the meantime Gyurcsány is busy to collect signatures.. :)

  6. Leto says:

    Oh, Szanyi also said that an MSZP government would provide FREE nurseries, kindergartens and free school catering for EVERYONE.
    http://mandiner.hu/cikk/20110507_mszp_ingyen_bolcsodet_ovodat_es_iskolai_etkezest

  7. DoubleH63 says:

    @Leto “provide FREE nurseries, kindergartens and free school catering for EVERYONE.”
    I am all for it – without MSZP government.

  8. Leto says:

    @DoubleH63:
    And free beer plus free villas with swimming-pools and sports cars for everyone.

  9. DoubleH63 says:

    @Leto
    Don’t be an idiot. I do believe taking care of children; education and healthcare should be free in all countries.

  10. Leto says:

    I don’t think it’s a good use of taxpayers’ money to provide, say, free school lunch to a one child family where the monthly income is, say, two million HUF.

  11. DoubleH63 says:

    @Leto
    That’s exactly my point. It should be free, regardless of income or anything else.
    How much did you or me have to pay for education? Wasn’t that nice?
    Instead of spending taxpayer’s money on Afghanistan adventures and (the latest) 600 million Ft for PR on government image; I think Hungary should spend it on children and the elderly. [And like I said my belief applies to all countries, not only to Hungary.]

  12. DoubleH63 says:

    “did you or me”
    did you or I