Mayor István Tarlós cannot support the Gay Olympics scheduled to take place in Budapest next June, as the idea is alien to his thinking, according to a statement posted Wednesday on the official Budapest website.
Berlin mayor Klaus Wowereit, who is openly gay, reminded Tarlós in a letter that the gay games are not only a sporting event but also promote the acceptance of homosexuals.
Former mayor Gábor Demszky supports the event, but Tarlós has made it clear that he distances himself from the gay lifestyles and the event itself.
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Sport is for all: why is the mayor of Hungary opposed to such a fundamental principle of sport, and of human rights?
I do note that the event is neither the “Gay Olympics”, nor the “Gay Games”, but the Eurogames, organized under the auspices of the European Gay and Lesbian Sport Foundation.
Why Fidesz is so closed, why they can not accept sexual diversity??
I would love to see in Budapest Zoophile winter-Olympics or pedophile pentathlon !!! Why, why are they so backward??
Tarlós has made it clear that he distances himself from the gay lifestyles
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Just another one in that Fidesz’ closet, who does not dare to come out
That closet is rather big
What a wonderful man – happy to risk billions of forints in lost tourism revenues (and hundreds of jobs) because of his principles. Just the kind of leader Hungary needs,
But of course! Personal views are far more important than the local economy; an economy that is suffering. We must forget that he represents an entire city and instead concencrate on the cult presently being cemented in place in Hungary at the moment. Hajra Budapest!
Think about social costs! Keep in mind savings made on treatment of sexually transmitted diseases – if You compare pros and cons You may find out he made a good choice
I think Tarlos doth protest too much.
I tend to agree…
@ Viking
What’s the deal here? Is the event (a) just sponsored by the gay community but everyone regardless of sexual orientation can compete or (b) only for gay athletes in which case the idea stinks.
Moreover if it is (a) and Tarlos wants to distance himself from the event and the \gay life style\ he should stay home based on the assumption that attendance is not compulsory. What does the word \support\ mean in this case? Can it go on without his support and blessing or it will not be allowed to proceed?
@olga:
Option b), of course.
olga says:
December 29, 2011 at 11:28 pm
(b) only for gay athletes in which case the idea stinks
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So now every event must always cater for everyone?
If I want to set up a competition for blind people, I cannot do that for some moral reason, then it would exclude people with one eye?
As I understand it is a ‘private event’ and Budapest can chose to sponsor it or not. If the organisers feel that Budapest is not friendly enough, they will of course go somewhere else, with all their visitors and money
Something Tarlós thinks Budapest can be without
In comparison Stockholm has tried to paint itself as a gay-friendly city and gets some events due to that, which means the locals can pay less local taxes
Thank God we got rid of Demszky… This fag festival is exactly what Budapest and Hungary doesn’t need at all.
If I call you an ass now, will you call me gay? Or Jewish?
Ass
Is there a good reason why I should call you a fag?
Now I know you’re definitely an asshole metaphorically speaking but I’ve got no idea (and I don’t care) if you fancy that kind of holes when you’re aroused or other kind of orifices. Have you got perhaps some more problems this time? Just say so and I’ll gladly give you such guidance any time, you lousy liar.
It’s funny how the gays want to have equal rights as heterosexuals (marriage, state benefits, children etc.), yet they always want to purposefully alienate themselves by having gay this and gay that (gay Olympics). I am pretty sure that there are gay athletes in the regular Olympics too! Most of the hostility from heteros comes when the gays want to set themselves out as a “special” group with special rights etc. There have always been gays throughout history. Much of the time they were quiet and “did their own thing” behind closed doors. When it was like this no one bothered them and they did their own thing. But comparing themselves and their “struggle” to the civil rights movement (blacks) in the 1960′s in America is a joke. Live and let live, but don’t come rubbing your sexuality in my face since I’m not rubbing mine into yours…
Your account of history is highly amusing fiction. Being forced to hide one’s sexual identity is a form of repression. Gays have been subject to discrimination, torture, and murder throughout history.
PS: Heterosexuals don’t hide their sexual identity and those no reason why homosexuals should either.
No body said not to hide it, but don’t rub it in our noses with overdone and over exposed parades every year either. Heteros don’t go around parading every year. But seeing how the gays are and demanding it every year, I really think that we heteros should have our own parade as well.
Really, how many gays out of all the gays in history have been tortured and murdered? A fraction of a percentage most likely.
how many gays out of all the gays in history have been tortured and murdered
How many need to be attacked, tortured or murdered before you agree that they face a problem having equal rights in their own countries? 10%, …50%, …100% ??
I agree with you free Hungarian voice.
Me, too.
A real man would say, “who cares?”.
Do any of you on the right, in Hungary, know a real man?
@He who hate Hungary,
“A real man would say, “who cares?””
That’s it? That’s you definition of a ‘real man’…he who says who cares? Don’t set the bar too high do ya?
A persons belief is just that, a persons belief. Instead of being attacked for it, it would be respected. To me, real man does that.
I guess a “real man” in your opinion is a left wing “open minded tolerant” individual right?
There are different notions on what constitutes a “real man”.
That’s the standard in the developed world. Tolerance is a virtue that your culture doesn’t appreciate. Case in point Olga, Leto, Justasking, …
Such thin skins … Hungary uber alles!
“Tolerance is a virtue that your culture doesn’t appreciate”
How ignorant and intolerant of you
BTW, a real man as I understand it, is one that provides for his family, works a steady job(work ethic), leads a clean lifestyle(no drugs and alcohol), provides a good role model to his family and children, stays faithful to his nation and people, who is faithful and devote to his religion(what ever it maybe), has strong morals, who is ready to defend his family and his country. This is what makes a real man. Contrasts with your globalist left-wing view of a man.
Gandi says:
December 30, 2011 at 10:09 pm
This is what makes a real man
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Serbia had a lot of “real man” who showed those inferior women what a “real man” is
Gosh…I know quite a few gay men who fit that perfectly.
@Ugly American,
“That’s the standard in the developed world. Tolerance is a virtue that your culture doesn’t appreciate”
Are you content to live outside your mind? Knowing that the only thing in this life that likes you are mosquitoes?
You’re not a man, you’re mouse.
So what acts of tolerance do you want to point to in Hungarian society?
Gerrymandering used against the Slovaks during the Austrian-Hungarian Empire or the 1,100 Slovak schools closed during the same period?
The Jewish and Roma Holocausts? The Arrow Cross militias? The roundup of Jews by the Hungarian Communists? Hungarians fighting on the side of Nazi Germany on the Russian front.
It is pretty ironic that you live in a multicultural society like Canada yet continue to defend one of the most nationalistic and prejudiced countries in Europe.
By the way, how do you feel about the impending collapse of the Hungarian economy due to your favorite party’s stupid economic policies …
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=EUR&to=HUF&view=1Y
Another screw up by Hungarian nationalists. Just like under the previous Fidesz government.
By April Hungary either defaults on its debt or reaches an IMF agreement. Either way Fidesz is finished …
My side wins. Your side loses.
@Ugly American,
“So what acts of tolerance do you want to point to in Hungarian society?”
What would it matter if I were to show it to you in point form? You couldn’t care less and would find a way to explain it all away anyhow. People like you don’t listen…you just talk, and talk, and talk, and talk.
You must be right at all cost..your fragile ego demands this.
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Your entire cause against Hungary and it’s people, is based upon a moment in time of our history; completely dismissing the other 1100 years. What intelligent person does that?
Show me a country that does not have blood on their hands and looking back, wished another path had been chosen than the one that was? People do better when they know better…as simple as that.
You walk around this site, pounding your chest, acting all moral, oh so knowledgeable and superior on us here…yet, I am hard pressed to find another poster so often wrong, disrespected and/or hated as you.
Well done Ugly!
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Hungary is not the most Nationalistic and prejudiced country in Europe…you just want it to be.
Besides, using your example of Canada…the US, compared to us, is nationalistic and shockingly prejudiced.
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If you believe, that the Hungarian economy is on the brink of collapse, due to choices made by Fidesz over the past couple of years and not bad/manipulative decisions/actions, by both parties over the past 20….what’s the point in having this discussion?
You seem excited, that Hungary is on the verge of collapse…hate to tell you this Ugly, no matter how bad you want it…Hungary will not disappear.
Maybe, just maybe is a sad kind of way, Hungary needs this to regroup and from the ashes, somebody worthy will come up. They have in the past and will again.
My heart goes out to those, who are already on the brink and have done nothing but work, pay their taxes and live their lives as honest citizens….but, you seem to find enjoyment from this.
I find enjoyment knowing that you are in a country you hate, surrounded by people you hate the most. This guarantees, that you will never be happy…but miserable and stressed. This is what you have earned and deserve.
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As for your side ‘winning’, well your side did start this whole thing. That being said…was this the ‘game’ to win?
Congratulations on that.
“By April Hungary either defaults on its debt or reaches an IMF agreement. Either way Fidesz is finished …
My side wins. Your side loses”
So you claim that your side is IMF (vs. Hungary). You’re a so-called “liberal J.w.”
I see.
Leto says:
December 31, 2011 at 7:07 pm
So you claim that your side is IMF (vs. Hungary). You’re a so-called “liberal J.w.”
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And here we have it again:
* ‘leto’ is assuming everyone who opposes Orban/Fidesz is a “liberal J.w.”
Always playing the J*w-card…
But how about the not so few J*ws that make up the Fidesz leadership?
And of Mr Arthur Finkelstein, an homosexual J*w that helped Fidesz win in 2010
Does ‘leto’ really feel comfortable being surrounded by J*ws?
Giving the many time ‘leto’ referring to J*ws being political opponents, one starts to wonder if there is something personal behind this…?
Obnoxious in Budapest:
Or maybe your side is the ignorant, arrogant arseholes from mom’s basement and it has little to do with your ethnicity and political “views”. Poor IMF.
Hungary should distance itself from the Olympics, founded by those faggy Greeks.
European Gay and Lesbian Sport Foundation???
Gay and Lesbians are not prevented from competing in the standard Olympics, so what is the point???
This is just another stupid waste of energy by a group of people that are intent on creating friction and conflict!!
Stupidity at the lowest level!
You dopes have all missed the point as per usual? Lesbos and gayboys only have synchronized swimming as one of their main events at the ‘real’ olympics. Now, under their own volition courtesy of Budapest they can include, pancake tossing, knitting, cocktail mixing, sequin sewing, and a whole host of other games and inventions that you could never imagine…
FYI: (I can’t post links, they are held up indefinitely so I cut and paste)
With the opening of Olympic Pride Houses and more openly gay athletes, the Olympics are finally coming out of the closet.
February 9, 2010 |
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The Olympics are coming out of the closet. These Games will have the first-ever Pride House. Two of them, actually: one opened yesterday in Whistler in a cocktail lounge, and the other will open in the heart of Vancouver’s West End on Thursday.
People are saying, in short, it will be the gayest Olympics ever. Not only because of the Pride Houses, or the number of out athletes, but because being gay won’t be an invisible part of these Games.
“I would say it was very emotional at the beginning,” said Charley Walters, of the opening speeches in Whistler. He and his reporting partner Tyler Duckworth from Olympics or Bust shoot independent Olympic videos for outlets such as MTV. This is the fifth Games they’ve covered. While Walters doesn’t want to place too much importance on it, he said today he had a sense of history being made, or “the birth of something that’s bound to be an Olympic staple,” and that this is the beginning of a new tradition. There were people at the ceremony from cultures where being gay is not only “unacceptable but criminal.” Then the party started.
Why here? Why now? According to those involved, it just happens to be the right city at the right time, with a lucky coincidence to start it all off.
First, the coincidence. In 1992, Brent Benaschak was heading to Vail’s gay ski week when Colorado passed Article 2, a piece of homophobic legislation. He decided to found Whistler Gay Ski Week, rather than give a discriminatory state his money. Now one of the biggest in the world, it’s an annual event.
But it’s held every February, and no one involved wanted to cancel or relocate this year. So organizer Dean Nelson started talking with VANOC and the municipality of Whistler to move the date (it’s now in early March). Which got Nelson thinking about the Olympics, how the gay community isn’t really represented and how they could be.
There are sure to be almost non-stop parties at Whistler’s Pan Pacific Hotel lounge, which is hosting Pride House, but Nelson is also focused on celebrating recent successes in wiping out homophobia, and raising awareness about what still needs to change in sport and elsewhere.
“Here, in Canada, it’s pretty cushy. If you’re gay, you’re treated like a real human being,” he says, while making last-minute preparations for the launch. But being gay is illegal in 14 of the countries participating in the Games, and in two, homosexual acts are punishable by death.
That’s why at Vancouver’s Pride House, even though the focus will be on making people feel welcome and safe, creating a space to meet up with friends and even trade pins, they also want to encourage people to share their experiences about gay life in other countries. Maps will show where it’s illegal to be gay, where it’s punishable by death, where it’s legal to be married and where it’s not.
Refugee counselors will also be on hand. “If there’s an athlete, a visitor, or whatever, and they say, ‘You know what I can’t go back,’” because of discrimination in their home country, “we’ll have people here to walk them through the process,” says Jennifer Breakspear, the executive director of Qmunity, which is hosting Vancouver’s Pride House. Maybe no one will claim asylum at these Games, she says, but in almost every Olympics held in a Western nation, at least one person has.
Breakspear says the issue of being gay has really come out of the closet recently. In addition to her initial idea to create the kind of place she herself would want to visit if she was out of town, she knew the prominence of gay issues in the news made it an auspicious time to be hosting people from around the world. “Anywhere in Canada, same-sex couples can be legally married. We’re not in such a tiny club as when this first happened in 2005, but our immediate neighbors to the south are still fighting for this in most of the states. And most of Europe is still working to get legal same-sex marriage.”
@ Don’t love Hungary
I was always known to be on the Left but now between you and the Obnoxious one I find myself on the far Right.
kindly confirm if I should champion minority rights like I have since I understood what prejudice was all about or should I buy myself a brown shirt while the Christmas sales are still on and march around Toronto pretending I am part of the MG?
Re your question: “Do any of you on the right, in Hungary, know a real man?” – shit, if I am on the Right I might be married to an unreal man but the good news would be that maybe he’d come shopping with me for that brown shirt because until now he hated shopping. So I figure either way , Left or Right this could be a win-win for me.
To you and everyone else regardless of my disgust for some of you, HAPPY NEW YEAR and all the best for 2012.
@ Viking
“So now every event must always cater for everyone?
If I want to set up a competition for blind people, I cannot do that for some moral reason, then it would exclude people with one eye?”
The point of having special sport events for blind people,having the Special Olympics for kids with Down Syndrome or the wheel-chair Olympics is the participants’ inability to compete with regular Olympic Athletes.
Gay athletes ought not be segregated because they are not
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any different than straight ones and do not have a handicap so inclusion ought to be the operative word. I looked on line and realized that the Gay Olympics welcome all athletes and the Gay Organizations are simply the sponsors just like large companies and/or organizations that sponsor various sports events, so it’s all good.
olga says:
December 31, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Gay athletes ought not be segregated because they are not
any different than straight ones and do not have a handicap so inclusion ought to be the operative word
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I understand what you are saying, but I think it still should be acceptable to set up any private event as restricted as you want, meaning it should even be possible to set-up a sports event or organisations, like Churches, that would not allow people of the “wrong” persuasion to participate/being members
We do accept that principle for Churches, so why should sports event be excluded?
Another question is if any Public Funds should go to such an excluded group, or if we should demand every one can become a member/participate, but then we come down to State Funding to Catholic Churches, who does not allow women or open gay men to become Priests
A very good reason not to publicly fund, including tax exemption, any Hungarian Catholic Church
Anyway, as you pointed out, this Gay Olympics does not need to try to identify the heterosexuals among their participants (for exclusion), then they actually do not care
Unlike the Hungarian Catholic Church and they get the State Support
I agree with Viking’s point, and see olga’s point of view. I would suggest that the people who have the least to gain from a ‘gay games’ in the long-term is the gay community itself. Isolation and segregation doesn’t help a minority to gain acceptance, which is why so many campaign for inclusion. Although I can understand the ‘logic’ of having their own games, I would suggest that they would be better off working to compete in existing community events. That said, there should be no ‘moral’ reason for stopping them from holding their own event.
“Real man” means, gays and straights who are comfortable enough in their own skins, so as to not really worry about someone else’s preferences, or especially to judge other men (or women).
Jesus, for example was a real man.
I am not being discriminatory about women on this, it just happens to be the case that the mayor in question is a man.
@He who hates Hungary,
Lets call a spade a shovel shall we? YOU think the Mayor is not a ‘real man’ because he did what he did.
Not accepting of/distancing oneself from a lifestyle, is not equal to being ‘worried about it’ nor judgmental…it could simply mean that a person is uncomfortable with it. Yet, you chose to judge the Mayor by his actions.
So, according to your definition, this would make you what…a hermaphrodite?
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“Jesus, for example was a real man”
“And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ “and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?’” (Matt. 19:4.)
So here, Jesus doesn’t come right out and say it’s ‘wrong’; but, he does condemn it. Still a ‘real man’?
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“I am not being discriminatory”
No, no you’re not…just hypocritical.
I suppose you should explain the difference between “not accepting/ distancing oneself” from a lifestyle and “judging” someone.
If you skip down to verse 9 (just a couple lines down from your little selection) of Matthew, Chapter 19, you will see the Lord being extremely critical of anyone who divorces- or cheats on his wife.
I’m afraid that would exclude a lot of FIDESZ from office.
Or perhaps Budapest should hold the Divorced Men who Cheat on their Wives Olympics?
One could “imply” that Christ is anti-homosexual by this passage. But Christ is actually preaching about infidelity here- explicitly.
If you want to to start throwing the Bible as a tool to bash people, read the whole Chapter 19. Some of it may even apply to yourself.
As I said, Christ was a real man. He was worried more about idiots who you can’t trust, than homosexuality.
That is the message here.
@He who hates Hungary,
“If you skip down to verse 9 (just a couple lines down from your little selection) of Matthew, Chapter 19, you will see the Lord being extremely critical of anyone who divorces- or cheats on his wife”
Seriously Dude? Do you really think that I would accept this response from you?
Did you or did you not use Jesus as an example of a ‘real man’ regarding the topic of sexual tolerance/acceptance?
Him, of all people…did you not do your research?
We’re not debating the 10 Commandments here…just your post.
I have to say, nobody could ever accuse you of deflecting…you just bloody well hightail it to another topic!
Might work on some….
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“One could “imply” that Christ is anti-homosexual by this passage”
No implication necessary…he outright says it!
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“But Christ is actually preaching about infidelity here- explicitly”
And…was the discussion infidelity? Do you have something you want to share with us all?
Have no fear…none of us would say a word…
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“If you want to to start throwing the Bible as a tool to bash people”
Did I miss something here? Did you or did you not, use Jesus as an example of a ‘real man’? Insinuating, that He would be tolerant of this lifestyle?
Hey, I get it…nobody likes/wants having their own example spoon fed back to them…especially when it was supposed to be their trump card.
Sucks to be you doesn’t it?
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“As I said, Christ was a real man. He was worried more about idiots who you can’t trust, than homosexuality.
That is the message here.”
Well, not according to Him…only your interpretation.
He had a shit load to say and did…and in no uncertain terms I might add.
I do apologise for the generalisation, about Hungarian men. Obviously the % of good guys in Hungary is no different than anywhere else.
It’s just that this site seems to be filled with a hell of lot of folk that “accuse” people of being either Jewish or gay, whenever they happen to disagree with them.
Again, sorry for lowering myself to that level, for a second.
But it does get old sometimes.
@He who supposedly loves Hungary,
“It’s just that this site seems to be filled with a hell of lot of folk that “accuse” people of being either Jewish or gay, whenever they happen to disagree with them”
Again, that is your interpretation.
I would recommend…’listen/read’ to what both sides are saying/have to say.
Come up, arrive at your own conclusions….imagine how easier life would be if it were simply black or white!?
You advocate ‘freedom of speech’, ‘freedom of beliefs’, ‘freedom of opinion’ ‘freedom of whatever’…but do you really?
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“Again, sorry for lowering myself to that level, for a second”
Would it be so bad to have someone question your convictions? Would you be big enough to stand by them or admit that you might be wrong or maybe need to rethink them from a different angle?
Ask yourself…how important is it to be right?
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“But it does get old sometimes”
So does life.
Sorry folks, the original was held in moderation because I did not add an asterisk to HWHH’s original post…apologies for it appearing twice…
justasking says:
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January 1, 2012 at 10:57 am
@He who supposedly loves Hungary,
“It’s just that this site seems to be filled with a hell of lot of folk that “accuse” people of being either J*wish or gay, whenever they happen to disagree with them”
Again, that is your interpretation.
I would recommend…’listen/read’ to what both sides are saying/have to say.
Come up, arrive at your own conclusions….imagine how easier life would be if it were simply black or white!?
You advocate ‘freedom of speech’, ‘freedom of beliefs’, ‘freedom of opinion’ ‘freedom of whatever’…but do you really?
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“Again, sorry for lowering myself to that level, for a second”
Would it be so bad to have someone question your convictions? Would you be big enough to stand by them or admit that you might be wrong or maybe need to rethink them from a different angle?
Ask yourself…how important is it to be right?
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“But it does get old sometimes”
So does life.
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@I love Hungary “Christ [...] was worried more about idiots who you can’t trust, than homosexuality.”
Has it crossed your ‘Faux News’ filled mind that in His time it was not the ‘in’ thing yet to promote the ‘greatness’ of being a fag [by pc correct non-fags also or dare I say mostly] so He did not have to worry about it?
@Viking “Just another one in that Fidesz’ closet, who does not dare to come out”
Are you implying that he is actually gay?
DoubleH63 says:
January 1, 2012 at 2:53 am
Are you implying that he is actually gay?
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Yes, like some other of the Fidesz front-men
Especially the J*w*sh ones
They are truly some really confused people, that need some help from the rest of the society to accept their reality
So, start The New Year with making a Good Dead:
* Help some of the leading Fidesz/KDNP-guys Come Out of their Closet by creating a homo-friendly Hungary!
Tarlós really need some urgent help here, before he end up as Jörg Haider, killing himself in a drunk driving after having problems with his boy-friend
@Vidra “happy to risk billions of forints in lost tourism revenues (and hundreds of jobs) because of his principles.”
A very new concept for you, isn’t it? Principles over money! Not too Jewish, is it? Damn!
@ I love Hungary “If I call you an ass now, will you call me gay? Or J***sh?”
[Sorry to screw up the quote from you but my last comment is in moderation for the very same word.]
How about no “Or”? Just call you both and then you can sorted out for yourself.
@Curious George “10%, …50%, …100% ??
Just curious, which one you like George?
@American in Budapest “The roundup of J**s by the Hungarian Communists?”
Shit, I can always learn something new about my country’s history from the Professor!
“My side wins. Your side loses.”
Always? Do I need to remind you about those trains again, you arrogant prick?
@Double,
Come on…lets separate the innocent souls from the ones with the/an agenda okay?
DoubleH63 says:
January 1, 2012 at 3:31 am
Do I need to remind you about those trains again
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Again threatening
If Swedish and Canadian practise would apply in Hungary, you would run a serious risk of being prosecuted
No fags or fag lovers have to soil their panties. This event will happen next year with or without the approval of Tarlós at a cost of 60-80 million Ft to the government; unless something dramatic happens.
Just our luck, London gets the real Olympics – Budapest gets the fag one.
I am laughing..where are the jokes…it is a surreal New Year to start the Day by taking a look at what is happening on pol.hu!
I was spoon fed for years lumps of hypocrisy in school, in the work place, in the church, preached at from the pulpit and Bible. etc etc.
And, in any number of fights in college because my friend was a “foreigner”.
Parents that didn’t have an education and couldn’t afford to get me one…and so on. I am not complaining just stating facts.
If there is a God I advocate that He does work on the basis of free will… let the Human species decide for themselves and, if they wish, destroy themselves (and the planet)at their leisure.
Sorry about the tend towards pedantry so I will finish by saying I applaud the efforts being made by Erik & co to include all views, however distasteful they might appear to some.
P.S.
Fidesz and Orban Viktor have proved a massive failure to everybody that believed things were going to change for the better under their guidance.
A shopkeeper in the village 2 years ago said to me only one word when I mentioned the new regime: “WORSE”!
My goodness was she correct! Boldog Új Évet
Two years ago? Worse? Indeed.
Since 2010? Better indeed.
As for the public opinion, instead of trying to draw conclusions from the babbling of a village shopkeeper, I would recommend you’d better study the polls published by various companies (for a start, try reading the poll-tracker on this site) and the results of the by-elections since 2010.
This is interesting to read.
I don’t know a lot about Hungary and have been looking to come to Budapest as part of a football squad of 30 at the Eurogames competition (the team includes both homosexual and heterosexual men).
What is worrying me is a lot of the homophobic comments I read. Should we be recommending to our players that they shouldn’t visit Budapest?
Pete UK says:
January 2, 2012 at 2:29 am
What is worrying me is a lot of the homophobic comments I read. Should we be recommending to our players that they shouldn’t visit Budapest?
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I would not regard Budapest as especially worse than other European Capitals in this aspect
Everywhere you can find people ready to beat up/harass others, but in general Budapest is rather low on the crime scale
High-profile events, like this Games, tend to draw some opposite attention, so the general rule applies – never walk alone late at night in poorly lit areas
Most of the bigots posting here, do not even live in Hungary. That said, just like in any large European city you will find skinheads and other bigots. So, use the same caution you would in any large European city.
@ Viking
re: understand what you are saying, but I think it still should be acceptable to set up any private event as restricted as you want, meaning it should even be possible to set-up a sports event or organisations, like Churches, that would not allow people of the “wrong” persuasion to participate/being members
We do accept that principle for Churches, so why should sports event be excluded?
We make choices about the churches we go to or the religion we follow. Gay people don’t choose their sexual orientations any more than heterosexuals so I hope the BP Olympics go ahead and draws hundreds of tourist to boost the economy. Tarlos can always spend the day with his Bible praying the gay away Maybe Michelle Bachman’s husband will have his book translated into Hungarian
Leto. You are a babbling ape at the center of Orban’s zoo where we throw you bananas to ensure that those insane ramblings keep coming thick and fast and in so doing hang you with your own rope. And, to use your own words, this is what you really are:”Dugulj már el, te szerencsétlen büdös komcsi seggfej”!
Pete UK. Don’t be afraid. Send all your amigos. Plenty of bath houses here for them to frolic and be gay. Budapest needs the ‘pink’ purse to bolster its flagging economy. Remember it is Ferenc Liszt airport and not Ferihegy. Although this could change in the coming weeks as OV’s megalomaniac antics rise to the surface. And,before you know it, wham bam thank you ma’am, Orban Viktor repülőtér/airport.
BTW. You might put in a good word for the other airport at Lake Balaton. It needs help: and so does Wolfi, the lazy B!
I don’t know who the f..k you are (new poster or a one-off nickname) but I don’t care either. Oh, okay, I understand you’re yet another orbanophic, “szerencsétlen büdös komcsi seggfej”. Sounds like you’re a fag, too.
correction: “büdöskomcsi” (it’s not about your physical odour but your metaphorical one)
@ Lily and JA
Happy New year to you and everyone else. About the gay Olympics issue – Viking was wrong and I was right (as always)
JA – about that Bible quote. Good to start off the New Year with some humour and I posted this before but “you made me” do it again thus it’s all your fault. (can be found all over the Internet so i just copied one version)
Dear Dr. Laura:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding
God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination… End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some
other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.
1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both
male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?
2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as
sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do
you think would be a fair price for her?
3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while
she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know
it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The
problem is, my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath.Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?
6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating
shellfish is an abomination – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?
7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of
God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle- room here?
8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed,
including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?
9. I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a
dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
10. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends
to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16.
Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively and thus
enjoy considerable expertise in such matters, so I am
confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us
that God’s word is eternal and unchanging.
Your adoring fans
@Olga and Lily,
Happy New Year to you both, and all the best!!!
@Olga,
I must have missed it when you posted it the first time, thanks for posting it again…hilarious!
@Olga and justasking:
Happy New Year to both of you!
@Leto,
To you and your family…all the best in the New Year
AS said before:
Tolerance is a virtue that your culture doesn’t appreciate”
How ignorant and intolerant of you
Hungary is going from bad to worse. I hate to see it, because I sincerely love this country. But it will be culturally and economically the black sheep of europe. It already is.
Hungary is not the black sheep of Europe. It is a fantastic country governed by idiots. I always give credit where it is due and criticism when the need arises.
It is my belief that Gyurcsany Ferenc and the MSZP
compromised any chance of us getting through the current economic downturn by squandering golden opportunities during their period in office
Likewise, Orban Viktor has looked the other way, and failed miserably to steer Hungary on the path to success. In fact, he has made no discernible effort nor difference to anything except introducing ridiculous laws that restrict and restrain in order to maintain his grip on power.
Successive governments have failed and where we are going to find professional, clued-up, politicians is anybody’s guess.Until we do – expect the same negative results followed by equally negative criticism.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2A6Mk8qUYU
@olga “JA [...] I posted this before but “you made me” do it again”
Or maybe the Devil made you do it, eh?
Do you even know what you are posting or like a ‘good little girl’ who just adores these ladies like Dr. Laura and ‘Red Éva’ just can’t contain yourself and have to share their idiocies?
Do you have any inkling, which God’s Laws Leviticus is all about?
“working on the Sabbath” and “touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean” should give you enough clue – maybe not.
So, we just have to see what Bible Tarlós will be clutching as he is praying away this newest addition of “we need more rights than others” groups Olympics.
@Double,
“Do you have any inkling, which God’s Laws Leviticus is all about?”
I did…still found it funny in a stinging sort of way.
@ Double
re: ” Do you have any inkling, which God’s Laws Leviticus is all about? ”
Being the Bible expert that I am, I found out Leviticus was the Old Testament when I first posted the Dr. laura letter over a year ago. Oh My God – don’t tell me there is a connection between the Old Testament and the J*ews? Who knew? Meg tanultam valami ujjat es meg csak Januar 3 van (learing how to spell will be in 2013)
I can only hope some other minorities will be added to your hate list in 2012 because IMHO you really must expand your horizon from the Roma, J*ews and the gays.
What’s amazing about you is that you keenly feel the injustice Hungarians have to face in Slovakia so one would think that you would sympathize with other minorities but you don’t, so basically you are just another Slota, Fico or the Obnoxious Parasite in BP, only the target(s) vary.
BTW, your comment about Dr Laura was strange. She is a hateful right-wing anti-gay extremist so I expected you to have her picture in your wallet.
@ Double
re: \So, we just have to see what Bible Tarlós will be clutching as he is praying away this newest addition of “we need more rights than others” groups Olympics.\
what on earth were you referring to about \more rights\? Do you invent these things or can you give an actual example?