January 6th, 2012

Hungarian FM says gov’t rejects questions of its commitment to democracy

The Hungarian government is prepared to hold talks on any issue but does not accept anyone questioning its commitment to democracy, Hungarian Foreign Minister Janos Martonyi said in Esztergom, N Hungary, on Thursday.

Hungarians see themselves differently than they are seen abroad, he said, adding that there are many things which the world cannot understand.

“The world will never understand our pains and spiritual wounds. We ask the world … to try to understand us,” Martonyi said.

The minister said that Hungary’s disputes with its neighbours focused on human rights, which applied to both individuals and communities.

“We ask all our neighbours to get used to the idea that there is no individual identity without communal identity. If they understand this, they will better understand the European identity, too,” he said.

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  • American in Budapest

    Such a load of crap. Exactly what led to two world wars was European ethnic identity.

    • Leto

      @Obnoxious:
      Do you mean that kind of Jewish ethnic identity what you demonstrate here? Even though you usually you speak utter garbage but now you’ve managed to make a good point, congratulations!

    • Cogito

      “Exactly what led to two world wars was European ethnic identity.”

      Sorry, not. It was idiotic thinking like yours.

  • Democrat

    What a pathetic diatribe. This guy used to be good.

  • Humphster

    It’s the standard poor, pitiful Hungary routine. Hungary can either step up and join the modern world or go to the corner and suck it’s thumb.

  • Bowen

    “The world will never understand our pains and spiritual wounds. We ask the world … to try to understand us.”

    And there, in a nutshell, is everything you need to know about these idiots.

  • Agrippa

    Pains and spiritual wounds :)
    Mr. Martonyi, is certainly a better speaker than a diplomat :)
    These “pains and spiritual” wounds can hardly world understand since they occured in less than regional level and are nowhere comparable with worldwide known pains and spiritual wounds.
    I would say that the main pain arise from the fact that a nation with a mythologized history with the biggest ego in Central Europe is currently less than significant not only in Europe, but also it´s Central part.
    It´s time to wake up, forgot about the shady past glory and work for the future of the children of this nation. Hardly any Magyar kid can feed itself from a portrait of Honfoglalás!

    • Cogito

      “I would say that the main pain arise from the fact that a nation with a mythologized history with the biggest ego in Central Europe”

      For a moment I thought you were talking about Israel, but then you mentioned Central Europe …

      • Agrippa

        In case of Israel I would not mention insignificance
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JL4Cu-K17vE

        • Cogito

          Yes, Israel must be significant when it receives from the US $ 3 billion in military aid alone annually. Of course, this does not include the billions of dollars in economic aid and private (tax-deductible) donations by US citizens.

          • Viking

            So israelis cannot complain about ‘the world does not understand us’?

    • Leto

      “a nation with a mythologized history ”

      That’s been a textbook example for “the kettle calling the pot black”, hülye tótocska. :D
      Keep reading those fairy tales about Great Moravia which you pathetic tótócskák teach in schools and which try to hold up as your origins. It’s just as real like the Rumanians’ Daco stories. :D

      BTW, you don’t care about Hungaray, don’t you? ;)

      • American in Budapest

        Hi Leto,

        We care enough to make sure that nationalist scum like you is relegated to the ash heap of history.

        Your brand of nationalism has been on the run a long time.

        • Leto

          Who is that “we”, Very Obnoxius American Jewish scum? Is there somebody else perhaps beside you in your mom’s basement?

  • spectator

    “The world will never understand our pains and spiritual wounds.”

    - And, in case those wounds would start to heal, and ease the pain, along comes one or other idiot tearing the wounds wide open again and again. Most frighteningly in the present it serves only one purpose: feel eternal gratitude toward the omnipotent leader, who “fight” for us…

    Actually it’s the only way to prove his existence, since he doesn’t have any idea, how to reign in a peaceful world.
    So, he “fights” with his shadow, with the economy, with everyone in sight, just to make himself visible, and the grateful people – in pain, again – pays the price.

    Well done!

  • sheesh

    What an idiot Martonyi has become!!! How can a modern-day Realpolitiker ask other countries to “understand” his people’s “pains and wounds”? Oh, wait … he isn’t one.

  • Paul

    “The world will never understand our pains and spiritual wounds.”

    Oh ffs.
    This is now officially Fidesz Foreign Policy.

  • Leto

    “a nation with a mythologized history ”

    That’s been a textbook example for “the kettle calling the pot black”, hülye tótocska. :D
    Keep reading those fairy tales about Great Moravia which you pathetic tótócskák teach in schools and which try to hold up as your origins. It’s just as real like the Rumanians’ Daco stories. :D

    BTW, you don’t care about Hungary, do you? ;)

    • Viking

      We, the real world, does not understand you…

    • Agrippa

      Which one?
      “A Régi Magyarorzság” a book famous for being read by Sir Scot Setton Watson (appropriate scientific authority for ethnic issues in the Kingdom) who when he read that book said that Magyars should be happy that this book was never ever translated to any foreign language?
      Or bullshits as presented by Mr. Istvan Horvat (Magyars as Titans)? :)

      You are indeed a small nation, just like we are. It is your ego what is the cause of pain :)

    • Agrippa

      Yes, I don´t care. But why not to entertain on some of your clowns in politics? We have this habit in Slovakia, you do not? :)

      • Leto

        Even you cannot be so hülye, tótocska that you haven’t noticed: this site about Hungarian politics. Got that or is it too difficult to comprehend?
        So if you don’t care about Hungary and Hungarians then just go to hell from here and find a site which is about Slovak politics. :D

        • Agrippa

          You are repeating that hulye totocska such frequently that I started to think about your personal complex either from Slovaks or a some sizes that might be decisive on your body…

    • Ironjack

      One simple question. IF Hungary goes bankrupt because you guys are Isolated/right wing/narrow minded retards…who cares?

      • Leto

        If you don’t then stop posting on this site. This site is about Hungary.

  • Leto

    That’s your epithet (epitheton ornans), that is byname, hülye tótocska. And it fits so perfectly!

    • Agrippa

      and also you are in lack of creativity for several months..

      • Leto

        Perfection, which is this phrase for you, needs no change.

  • spectator

    Come on, Leto, grow up, please!

    This manner suit to an angry kid in a daycare, it may – once – be tolerated to some grammar-school pupil, but here it certainly gives an impression of an adolescent, who can not yet communicate with adults in a right way because of his overwhelming inferiority-complex…

    Not to mention the fact, that you supposed to represent certain conservative christian, civil values – allowing that your favourite party still has anything to do with those.

    • Leto

      Dear SZDSZ cretin,

      The good ol’ Hungarian saying applies here “Amilyen a mosdó, olyan a törülköző.” (The towel is just like the washing bowl)

      • spectator

        You mean, there is no differences?
        Well, use them both – just to remain on the safe side ;-)

        While I have no problem when you arguing – seriously – this is mostly silly.

        • Leto

          No difference between you and this hülye tótocska when it comes to your efforts to smear Hungary and Hungarians.

          • Viking

            Leto says:
            January 6, 2012 at 11:43 pm

            smear Hungary and Hungarians

            When it coming to \smear Hungary and Hungarians\ ‘leto’ and Orban comes rather high up on the ranling

          • spectator

            “..smear Hungary and Hungarians..”

            … by pointing out, you’re just spoiled your pants?

            No wonder, that you are in a dire need of the washing bowl, if it ever helps to clean up the mess what these dilettante maniacs managed to get the country into.

            I understand, that neither you, nor your masters stand criticism well, particularly, when you have no idea, what- and how to do to make corrections. Instead you chose that silence the voices, turn off the alarm-bells, put your head into the sand, pretending that this is the best thing ever happened to Hungary.

            Try to face it: I don’t “smear Hungary and Hungarians”, I express my opinion about a little (2/3) wannabe emperor in his invisible robe, and his zealous servants, like you.

            In order to clean up “Hungary and Hungarians” from this disgusting, brainless pseudo-feudal servilism what your Great Leader coerced the country into “democratically”.

      • Pete H.

        And smeared all over your törülköző are juvenile epithets and insults. A mosógép to get your stains out doesn’t exist.

        I don’t have the time, but your catalog of comments is ripe for a Leto poetry slam.

  • DoubleH63

    @Democrat “This guy used to be good.”

    When was that? When he was an III/II and III/I informer for decades with the aliases of ‘Magasdi’ and Marosvásárhelyi?
    No wonder you like him though. He used to have suppers with your favourite guy, ‘Libás Bajnai’.

    • Viking

      DoubleH63 says:
      January 7, 2012 at 9:36 am

      When he was an III/II and III/I informer for decades with the aliases of ‘Magasdi’ and Marosvásárhelyi?

      No, no
      This guy is Fidesz and Fidesz-guys never did anything wrong

  • Ironjack

    Stop me then.the right answer was: Hungarians who are aware of the country the live in, their resources and willing to do something about it. not your retarded cheap comment.

  • Richard Lucas

    This “poor misunderstood exceptionalism” way of thinking is very common and widspread. there are Americans, Scots, Irish, Brits, Russians, Poles, Indians, Egytpians Turks, Israelis who might say this about their nation, and sad, compex ridden individuals who will say this about themselves. It’s not a good excuse at all, but rather a way of avoiding responsibility for trying to communicate in ways that help others understand. Why should we bother to try to understand someone or a country who doesn’t believe they can be understood? The reason to try to understand Hungary is that this sad man is not speaking for decent responsible Hungarians (I hope)

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