Leader of the radical nationalist Jobbik party Gabor Vona urged Hungary to quit the European Union at a demonstration in central Budapest on Saturday.
Vona said European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso’s letter on Wednesday had violated Hungary’s independence. He called for a referendum to be held, enabling Hungarians to decide whether they still want to be part of the EU.
The crowd filling a 100-metre stretch of a 15-metre wide street was chanting “Let’s Quit” and Down with Trianon” in response to the party leader’s call.
By asking Hungary to amend three of its laws, the EC demonstrated that it expected Hungary to give up its independence, said Vona.
Several participants wore black military uniforms and boots and were carrying EU flags with the word NO written on them.
At the end of the rally Jobbik deputy leader Elod Novak and Levente Muranyi, whom he introduced as a 1956 freedom fighter, set an EU flag on fire.
The communications department of the Budapest Police Headquarters told MTI on Saturday evening that the police authority would file a report against two persons who burnt an EU flag at the Jobbik demonstration. The report about suspected vandalism will be submitted to the central investigation office of the chief prosecutor.
The EC said on Wednesday that it was analysing the compatibility of Hungarian laws with EU laws. Concerns relate to a number of issues, including the independence of the central bank, mandatory early retirement of judges and prosecutors and the independence of the national data protection authority, Barroso said in a statement.
I encountered this demonstration by accident. It was tiny. Only a few hundred.
Few hundred? I was there, and we were a little bit more! It was started at 14:00, so if you were there before, that was only the first troop. I don’t want to say big, but there were at least a few thousand, some say maybe close to ten thousand. It’s a quite good achievment from a few days of organization. Next time, we will be more.
Welcome Daniel! EU is a huge deception, a new Soviet Union, making fat those who work within it. Nobody got any advantage from this club. Friendly greetings from Switzerland.
Great, Kettenhund.
It seems that people in Switzerland still think normally.
HUF 1 trillion in EU funds in 2010? I call that an advantage! Maybe you folks in CH are not so hard pressed for EU money, but we poor savage Hungarians definitely are, even if half of it goes down the drain.
Jobbik is the living proof that equality does exist in Hungary.Even retarded people are allowed to gather and have a political party.so inspirational!
As any normal, healthy right wing Hungarian is quick to point out, Hungary is a sovereign nation and it’s perfectly within it’s rights to commit national suicide if its people so choose. The quickest and easiest way to do that, it seems to me, is to leave the EU. Once Hungary leaves the EU, it can join with Belarus and the Ukraine in the three way free trade pack.
Hungary is either in or it’s out and being in means they will have to live with the rules of the EU; being out, would be another in a long list of Hungarian disasters.
I think Gabor Vona has the right idea. Hungary should have a national referendum on the will of the Hungarian people concerning the EU. At least that would be the end of that part of the debate.
Since the EU has certain European countries in an economic straight jacket and the people are starting to realize that a United states of Europe will never work. Hungary please Get out because you won’t be the only one to leave.
AK says:
January 15, 2012 at 3:00 pm
Hungary please Get out because you won’t be the only one to leave
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So a non-Hungarian, not living in Hungary asks Hungary to leave first?
Why not start with your own country?
Too chicken, better to let the stupid Hungarians test it first?
I am in Greece at the moment. We will be happy to leave since Greece was never meant to join in the first place. The tourism based greek economy is just to weak.
I think many would follow us. Just the way has to be showed. We’re on it!
Right!
Why don’t you? Just show them, don’t hesitate!
Otherwise, the phenomenon well known – allegedly the lemmings doing just that!
(Jumping off the cliff, one by one, following each other, no way to stop them, till the last one – in case you wonder.)
- This way, please, have a nice trip!
If a country commits suicide it will probably look like this. Unbelievable. But true.
Could be worse. You could be in somalia or ethopia or iraq or Sudan.
Send Orban Viktor on holiday to the Yemen and, with a bit of luck, and a strong wind, that will be the last we ever see,or hear, from him again.
It will also save the public purse about 30 million euro and the prospect of having the halfwit installed as president!
I am just thinking, if, Hungary will leave EU, then Schengen, NATO .. how mn. Magyars – not living in Hungary will apply for Hungarian citizenship?
So you are saying that those Hungarians who are now applying for Hungarian citizenship only do so because Hungary is in the EU, Schengen and NATO? Most ethnic Hungarians already enjoy the right of free movement as Slovakia and Romania – the two countries with the largest Hungarian minority – are members of the EU. They are applying for citizenship because they want to be legally recognized for what they have always been – Hungarians. No matter if Hungary is in the EU or out. Also, countries like Norway and Switzerland are enjoying many of the advantages the EU has to offer without being bound by its disadvantages. Hungary could be part of the EEA after leaving the EU. Due to her history, ethnic composition and language Hungary has to be independent, just like Switzerland.
Euskeptic says:
January 16, 2012 at 2:52 am
countries like Norway and Switzerland are enjoying many of the advantages the EU has to offer without being bound by its disadvantages
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It is not dead sure that the organisations you mention will accept Hungary as a partner
To get ‘EU-citizenship’ is definitely a contributing factor for ethnic Hungarians in the Ukraine and Serbia when applying for Hungarian citizenship
It gives them an immediate right to go anywhere in the EU and seek job officially and to move there with out asking anyone, just prove that you can provide means for your survival, meaning you can give your children a better future
Just ask ‘leto’ why, if you still are not convinced
Anyone can apply for citizenship regardless of the country being part of the EU or not.
I think the question was “will apply”, not “can apply”
I would think some would like to get back their Slovak citizenship, then all rules that apply that EU-citizen is only applicable on EU-citizens
Something to think about for the Hungarian minorities in EU, especially in Slovakia and Austria and Netherlands and Czech Republic, which are all countries that do not allow multiple citizenship
And only having an Hungarian citizenship, when Hungary leaves the EU, will definitely make problems
I never expected that Hungarians are so creative in flash mobbing. By the way, Slovaks(together with Slovak Magyars) build up a better democracy than Hungarians. Hungarians failed after communism fall.
Your argument implies that Hungary will be worse off after leaving the EU than it is now. There is no reason to hold another country’s citizenship if Hungary will prosper. On the contrary, foreigners will want to go to settle in Hungary and they will be given a hard time acquiring permanent residence in Hungary let alone citizenship – just what the prosperous countries of the west have done to Hungary over the past decades.
I’ve encountered these demonstrations in the past and they’ve always been small. It’s odd, as a foreigner, to walk through a crowd of people who proclaim to hate foreigners. It’s too bad they get more press than their numbers warrant.
So, I didn’t know why it was that people are so preoccupied with the past and events like Trianon until I understood the Hungarian version of the event. It doesn’t completely reconcile with non-Hungarian versions of the events. But even so, this happend 90 years ago and it’s time to get over it. It’s a different world today and all of this looking into the past looking for lost glory as glorious as some make it out to be is not only counter productive, it’s not destructive. As was pointed out by Humphster, you’re either in or your out. If you’re in, start cooperating ‘cos in the long run that will be in your best interest. And if you’re out, I’ll be out before you’ve shut the door ‘cos like it or not, many of the things that do work here are because you are in.
“this happend 90 years ago”
Actually 91 and a half. So what? You’re probably unable to imagine such a thing happened to your country or if you are then you’re not very much attached to your country.
“to walk through a crowd of people who proclaim to hate foreigners”
What crowd did you walk through and when? Did you hear when they proclaimed to hate you because you’re a foreigner?
Saddle up boys! We gots NAZIS to remedy again!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HOOOOOOOOO!
coming to think of vona gabors demand i think it is really the best for europe that Hungary leaves.
This country with its vast historical exoperience and
ability to always choose the wrong side ,its deep understanding of democratic values,of basic human rights,of freedom of speech and freedom of the press,with its impressive achievements after 1989 and its visionary
leadership is unique in europe.I think you should go it alone.So much quality and ability in economic affairs
and in world politics is surely to much for europe at the moment.Show the europeans how it has to be done.We all are waiting for your guidance…
Here we go… Eastern Europe v. Western Europe II. Foreigners get out! USA is drawing down their military in Europe so who’s going to protect you morons now? We’ve ben doing it since WWII and we can’t afford it anymore as you’ve taken it for granted for 60+ years. It was America that had the most influence bringing the wall down and this is the thanks we get? We truly are stupid to have riends like you. Americans realized from the beginning that there was little chance of a United States of Europe. The EU was created primarily to instill a common currency to use as a base for united European economic power. Culturally could never work because there was no common language to unite europeans and you will never get a soverein european country to become just a state in europe (Yugoslavia anyone?). Go ahead and thump your chests magyar vagyok as you put yourselves in position once again for someone bigger and badder to come in and put their foot on your throats… again. What are you going to do? Have the magyar military protect you? Wait for a minute while I dry the tears from eyes from belly laughing. Hungary has an incredible ability for blind short sightedness. You want your pre Trianon land and people back? Then go fucking get it or shut up. There’s a snowball chance in hell of that ever happening in oh let’s say… the next millennium! In the meantime… start practicing your dumpster diving skills because you’re going to be broke soon. This may be my last post about Hungary. After reading the drivel I’ve been seeing on this site for a couple of months Hungary is commiting self inflicted suicide via what I thought was just the latest failure of another corrupt Hungarian government. It’s readily apparent that many arrogant, ignorant and just plain stupid magyars are hopping on the bandwagon on the road to nowhere.
The USA has a ton of its own problems right now starting with the moron we have for a president wants to raise our debt ceiling again by another $1.2 Trillion dollars. Not a single American I know or talk to wants any of that no matter what pain we’ll have to endure. We’ll have our say about him and that this November. You can go ahead and bash me and America all you want, we get it from around the world everyday. We can take it. We’ll right our ship because I still have faith in the American people; certainly not the greedy and corrupt politicians, bankers and Wall Street. (No I’m not an OWS afficionado, those jerks are clueless and pathetic). Good luck Hungary, you’re going too find out real soon who YOUR real friends are. Over and outta here…
Great read allof. On top of all the domestic problems the USA is having why not throw in a showdown with iran
@AK,
“On top of all the domestic problems the USA is having why not throw in a showdown with iran”
Neither Iran, nor the US want this to come to a head…if that were to happen, all hell would break loose, I believe, world wide.
Besides, the US and the Iranians were talking about having talks in Turkey when the bombing of that Iranian Scientist occurred. Why do you think Hilary Clinton was so quick to tell the world that the US was NOT responsible for it?
You do the math for which country does not want the US and Iran to sit down together and come up with a solution satisfactory to both sides.
@JA
I agree with a lot you say regarding Iran. During a US presidential election year Obama will do he can to prevent a confrontation but that will include using US military might to keep the Straits of Hormuz open, make no mistake about that. He can’t afford gas prices going up at the pump whether in the US or Europe. The US has noy applied the full weight we could on sanctions and will not intil the election is over. Europe has applied tougher danctions than the US to this point. In regards to Israel, what would be Hungary’s reaction if Germany or Russia called for the extinction of Hungarians? I doubt Hungary wouldn’t get a little defensive about that. Mystifies me about the hatred Europe still has for Israel, the only true democracy in the region. Israel will do what the US tells them until they have solid proof that Iran has nuclear weapons capability and they won’t wait for the US to attack. Much of Iran’s bluster and bravado is for their neighbors in the region like the warnings last week of consequences if their neighbors increase oil production. I sincerely hope there won’t be a confrontation but Iran’s actions the last 8 years has done nothing to dispel it. Everybody is nervous about it including Russia and China.
“the only true democracy in the region”
Bruhahaha…
(For some postcommie jerk’s sake whose name I forgot: That’s Hungarian for loud, roaring laughter)
This particular, really ridiculous piece of bullshit often makes my day.
Israel is a theoracy, lied to be a democracy, with strong apartheid elements. And democratic ones, too.
theocracy
Leto says:
January 17, 2012 at 8:19 pm
Israel is a theoracy, lied to be a democracy, with strong apartheid elements. And democratic ones, too
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Agree
But I do not blame J*ws for that
I blame *sr**l* nationalist, whatever they prefer to call themselves
@Wiking,
“I blame *sr**l* nationalist, whatever they prefer to call themselves”
Exactly…
PS: if you were in-fact a Hungarian Viking…you would be pronouncing it the way I wrote it
@Aloof,
“a confrontation but that will include using US military might to keep the Straits of Hormuz open, make no mistake about that”
First off, Iran is bluffing about those Straits, everybody knows that blocking them would have more of an impact on them, than anybody else. Secondly, the US would not use it’s military might for it would not be needed due to my aforementioned point…make no mistakes about that.
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“He can’t afford gas prices going up at the pump whether in the US or Europe”
I’m assuming your talking about Obama? He should have thought of that before he allowed your Environmentalists to dictate the tempo by delaying the building of the Keystone Pipeline for their election support.
We(Canada)will be selling our oil to the Chinese…they’re willing to pay 3 times the amount that we were charging the US.
I suggest you get ready to kiss your ass goodbye…it’s all about money baby and what’s best for Canada…meeting the needs of the people.
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“The US has noy applied the full weight we could on sanctions and will not intil the election is over”
Look…those sanctions are already hitting Iran in the pocket book…a country with what 40% unemployment? The US are ‘recommending’ Italy and Greece ween themselves of Iranian oil, allowing other countries to try and meet the demands of Iran’s ‘former’ customers.
The US is trying to get off this slippery slope, for it can be viewed as a declaration of war towards Iran…you don’t shut down a countries economy and simply expect them to sit back and take it. Hence the talks about halving talks.
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“In regards to Isr*el, what would be Hungary’s reaction if Germany or Russia called for the extinction of Hungarians?”
Seriously…was that comment supposed to have me running for Kleenex?
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“Israel will do what the US tells them until they have solid proof that Iran has nuclear weapons capability and they won’t wait for the US to attack”
You are very naive if you believe Isr*el is going to listen to the US…they have been getting away with what they have been getting away with (case point, treatment of the Palestinians)and with the US’s blessing…so who’s wagging who? You know…the big advocates of Human Rights and all?
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“Much of Iran’s bluster and bravado is for their neighbors in the region ”
That maybe so…but do you think those neighbors are going to turn their backs on Iran if somebody goes and attacks them..IE the US or Isr*el?
The US knows this, and understands the possible consequences. Why do you think they (US) wants to sit and talk with Iran, come up with some ‘solutions’ that both sides can agree with…and why Isr*el does not want this to happen?
I personally beleieve that the present Government of Isr*el is afraid that they will be forced to settle with Palestine, this 2 state solution. Back to the original 1967 boarders and not Isr*el’s version of a Palestinian state.
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“I’ve noticed several times that what you type isn’t always what gets posted”
Yeah…that usually happens to me as well…after I have gotten into the wine and still continue to post
@JA
Before you whip my butt about the “typos” in my previous post the errors weren’t mine. I’ve noticed several times that what you type isn’t always what gets posted. Don’t know why….
@Leto
Keep laughing hombre. I’m no Israel lover but their theocracy/democracy is at least of a western style brand unlike the intolerant islamic “theocracies”. So you’re an anti semite, congratulations. You’re a pretty weird dude.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m doing.
“Israel is the only true democracy in the region…”
And I’m no anti-Semite and I’m no philo-Semite, you simplifico.
BTW, are you so much for the Arabs, too? They are Semite, too. 
@Aloof,
“but their theocracy/democracy is at least of a western style brand unlike the intolerant islamic “theocracies””
Yeah, but does that really matter to Americans?
The US uses Saudi oil and bailouts from China…far as I know, those are not ‘western style democracies. They have also supported brutal regimes such as Egypt and looked the other way regarding Libya and the Palestinians
There have always been right wing “patriots”, who acted like this, like Skinheads, then MIÉP fans (Party of Hungarian Truth and Life). Never mind them, they don’t know, what they1re talking about.
@JA
Yeah, but does that really matter to Americans?
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Hell no. What? Is it some secret that America will do whatever it takes to protect American interests? We hardly looked the other way in Libya, we we’re directing that show remotely. Everybody looks the other way when it comes to Palestine to include the arab league and the UN, just like everyone is doing with Syria today. At least Palestine has a flag flying in Brussels, a start right? We made Saudi Arabia and China rich. And anyone who thinks China “owns” the US is really shallow. We’re playing them like a violin. We supported the Mubarak regime so we could help protect Israel. We have our eyes on the Caspian Sea and the Gulf of Guinea, all nothing new. As for Iran, who else but us is protecting YOUR interests? Who brought the wall down? Keep bashing away, we’re used to it.
@Aloof,
“We hardly looked the other way in Libya, we we’re directing that show remotely”
Do you really believe that?
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“Everybody looks the other way when it comes to P*lestine”
And why is that?
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“We made Saudi Arabia and China rich”
No dummy…your greed did. You presented these countries with opportunities, and they ran with it.
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” And anyone who thinks China “owns” the US is really shallow. We’re playing them like a violin”
Oh…by pretending to be maxed out, asking and accepting money from them? By letting them buy up American companies…yet, limit US companies as to what and how much they can own and invest in China?
By beefing up their manufacturing industry and the cost of your own people?
Me thinks China’s playing you guys like a fiddle!
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“We supported the Mubarak regime so we could help protect Isr*el”
So, The US…who demands democracy for all, human rights, peace, love and happiness…supported a dictator, who was brutal towards his own people…to ‘protect’ a country, who daily attacks, suppresses, humiliates and degrades a minority group? Remind me again who needs protecting from who?
Something doesn’t seem to want to pass the smell test…hope that ‘friendship’ is worth it.
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“As for Iran, who else but us is protecting YOUR interests?”
If you believe that Iran is THE thread to the world as we know it…just goes to show how little you know about world politics…Pakistan is the real threat…not Iran.
As for protecting the world…you are the ones who are usually doing the taunting for God sake…just can’t seem to be able to mind your own damned business!!!
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“Keep bashing away, we’re used to it”
I take it your ‘pity party’ is an ‘invitation only’ affair?
But I have to say…you knock down Leto for his ‘blind support and devotion’ of and to Fidesz…you think your attitude towards the US is any different?
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But…speaking of the EU and the US attacking Hungary on her media law…has any of you seen this?
Imagine a World
Without Free Knowledge For over a decade, we have spent millions of hours building the largest encyclopedia in human history. Right now, the U.S. Congress is considering legislation that could fatally damage the free and open Internet. For 24 hours, to raise awareness, we are blacking out Wikipedia.
@Leto
I love ya man. You’re deluded but cool. Sorry… I don’t have a smiley face fetish.
Aloof. I know you owe me the odd favour/favor.
Note, both spellings, to appeal to your American megalomaniacal “we rule the world dream”.
I want you to ask those American TV accompanies that will insist on employing those cloned, nasal, caked-in-make-up, screeching, several octaves above middle C types, that present every program from the news to chat shows to cake-making etc. and get them to remove them tout suite.
The voices of the “harpies” sound like chalk being scratched across a blackboard and this is very upsetting on my nerves, to the extent I’m having to consume even larger amounts of alcohol to get me through the day. However, this is a good Hungarian tradition and I will not be out of place in that respect. Please hurry. Thanks!
@JA
Like I said, keep bashing away. You’re a sideliner liberal academic snob who has no personal stake… in anything.
* Libya: I know it for a fact
* Palestine: Please enlighten all of us poor dolts with your dazzling knowledge.
* Saudi Arabia/China: In the case of China, agree. Saudi Arabia simple oil policy going way back…
*China: Think what you like it won’t be accurate over the long run.
* Egypt: Tell me what arab dictatorship isn’t? So we get blamed for them being animals? I never see liberals like you bashing their primitive and barbaric behavior, women’s rights and their “humanity”, give me a break. US isn’t killing anybody today, so it’s just fine when they kill each other? BTW the jury is still WAY out on all ” arab spring” BS. Time will tell.
*Iran: Oh… like the EU when it comes to Hungary? Precious.
* Allegiance: bit of a difference between a blind allegiance to a political party versus an allegiance to your country. I won’t apologize. Love how you discount all the GOOD America has brought to the world and how much blood we have shed protecting and fighting for our Allies. WWI or WWII come to mind there pumpkin?
* Wikipedia: They censored themselves. So you’re for piracy? So you’re not for protecting the internet? How about tose countries like China that only the Chinese people what the want them to have access to and on a daily basis attack virtually every country including Sweden and Hungary with cyber attacks and spying? That’s fine with you right? Besides, Wikipedia as a factual source is not reliable and you know it.
I’ll bet you’re a Bill Maher and Chris Hitchens fan. Well in the case Hitchens, was. More sideliners…
@Aloof,
” liberal academic snob”
I have been called allot of things on this site, but never a Liberal!!! With that one I take offence ….you made me cry…I hope your happy.
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“Palestine: Please enlighten all of us poor dolts with your dazzling knowledge”
Are you being facetious?
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“Tell me what arab dictatorship isn’t?”
Qatar
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” So we get blamed….”
You didn’t understand what I wrote did you?
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“Iran: Oh… like the EU when it comes to Hungary? Precious”
This is me not understanding what you just wrote.
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“Love how you discount all the GOOD…”
Judging by all the passion in that part of your post…I bet you were crying as you were typing it weren’t you?
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“So you’re for piracy? So you’re not for protecting the internet?”
Really? Am I going to have to start calling you Szabad Ember? He too has issues comprehending what he reads.
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“I’ll bet you’re a Bill Maher and Chris Hitchens fan”
Guilty as charged…I appreciate anybody who has the balls to stand up for what they believe in, while avoiding being hypocritical. You can respect a persons opinion, while at the same time not agree with them.
You do know that don’t you?
@Uncle Tom
Sorry man. Don’t owe you anything. Got a drinking problem? Sounds like escapism, self pity, lack of self discipline and a loathing of one’s self. Go get some help although I wouldn’t have the first idea where you could get quality help in Hungary. Uhhhh… good luck!
@Uncle Tom
I owe you nothing there pal. Got a drinking problem? Sounds like escapism, lack of self discipline, lack of self esteem and a whole bunch of self loathing. Then again, maybe you just enjoy being plastered. I wouldn’t have the first idea where you could go and get quality and more importantly effective help in Hungary. Uhhhh… good luck!
Aloof you poof! Quickfire, denial riposte, but I still maintain that you owe me plenty. Fermat’s Last Theorem: A Short form Proof, language lessons,music enlightenment and so on. And the jolly pastime in name-changing in which we both excel?
But I’ll shelve all this for another day and suggest it is you that needs all the help you can get and quickly.
In fact, I will publically withdraw my request of your help because, I think you are one of those high screeching sonofabitches I was compaining about in the first instance! lol
@Ron,
Whatever floats your boat Uncle Tom, Ron or whoever you are. Have no idea what the hell you’re talking about and you sound much more like a Brit than a Hungarian (poof, jolly, favour.. what’s next? indeed, brilliant?). Guess you drink at home too. Like I said, Good luck!
@JA,
Who said I never respected your opinion(s)? We’re just having a conversation that have disparate views. Tou’re an educated and smat gal, who wouldn’t respect that?
Just 2 \rebuttals\ this time:
Qatar: \The free and progressive citizens of Qatar are tired of the current Emir’s dictatorship. They have been demanding democratic reforms during a lot of meetings and protest actions which are not shown on Al Jazeera which belongs to the Emir. Desperate people decided to attack the Emir’s cortege since he has become a symbol of dictatorship and suppression of dissidents\
Liberal: If you’re a Maher and Hitchens fan then you can’t seriously tell me that you’re not a liberal, at least part time. 2 atheists that regularly used Maher’s show to beat down any guest that wasn’t a liberal?
Hey BTW! I’m a relative of Sean Connery. When I was a 10 year old boy in Wilkes-Barre PA. my Mom arranged with him to give me a bit part in the movie (and long forgotten) \The Molly Maguires\ that was mostly shot in Jim Thorpe PA. One of the mot incredible experiences of my life. Sean is cool. See if you can pick me out.
I never cry except over the loss of a loved one to include more than once on the battle field. Guilty as charged.
@Aloof,
“Who said I never respected your opinion(s)?We’re just having a conversation that have disparate views.”
Would you please stay focused?
I never said, you said, that I said, you didn’t respect my opinion. Clear as mud…or are you gonna force me put on my Dr.Phil hat? Now, be a good little boy and reread what I wrote.
Uh, uh, uh…step away from the wine bottle!
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I know who owns Al Jazeera…thanks.
So, did you get that rebuttal straight out of Wiki? Are you pulling a Schmitt Pal?
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First you call me a Liberal…then a ‘gal’, now back to a ‘part-time’ Liberal as if that is supposed to be less insulting.
I’m a Conservative, with a little ‘c’…just like everybody on this site…some of us have liberal views on somethings and conservative views on others. To me, this is health…means you are willing to listen to both sides a draw your own conclusions.
Hitchens, tore apart hypocrites. If you listened to him, he’s quite respectful of people defending what they beleieve in and why…he just comes across as a bulldog.
I find Maher a bit brutish, dismissive and disrespectful,…Hitchens was always classy…maybe it was his accent.
He also had a mind like a computer!
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I am touched that you feel comfortable enough around me, to share your family tree. At first I thought your were simply name dropping, since I know your not, I will share a secret with you as well…Oprah and I are related.
I was born a pohw black child…..
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“I never cry”
Good grief, I do!!! Give me a sappy movie, book or even a commercial…you’ll have me doing what I call the ‘ugly cry’…it ain’t pretty.
I’ve figured out that it’s CAPTCHA re-posts that seem to generate “typos” in one’s posts. I really wish they’d rid of it already (as they’ve been promising). It’s beginning to irritate me more tha OV!
Aloof. You and your big mouth are more irritating than both.
And, I am a Brit, living in Hungary. Wanna make something of it? And, would you care to hazard a guess at how many Hungarians are currently working legally and illegally in the UK?
I am not convinced that you are a relative of the greatest 007 Jimmy Bond, Mr Sean Connery!
In fact I believe you are the grandson of that other erstwhile moron, American in brouhaha.
Yeah, yeah, yeah,…the usual Yankee bullshit outpourings to de-stabilize the Middle East and put-in another puppet regime in order to maintain cheap oil.
Interference everywhere except in Palestine where the people have been ripped off for more than 50 years. Sounds a bit like Hungary only for different reasons.
When they say empty vessels make the most noise it would be an understatement in your case. The volume is deafening as it is irritating. Just like all the bugs we encounter on this site. And you are the biggest roach of them all!
@Ron’s Daddy
Yawn. After you’re done with your alcohol rehab you could go to anger mangement next. Well at least you seem to be a little more sober today but with a doozy of a hangover eh? Blame your multicultural immigration problems as fallout from the ole’ building of the British Empire. What comes around goes around. I don’t know maybe 25 or 30K Hungarians in the UK? So what? They’ve been going there since the late 1500s. What’s your point? (A scary question). We have about 1.5 million and love them all. As I recall we kicked your asses out of our country a couple of hundred years ago. Small wonder.
Aloof. You couldn’t win an arse-kicking contest with a unidexter. The Americans wiped out the indigenous population (Red Indians) and then shipped hundreds of thousands of black slaves from Africa to re-build the country.
The British had, mad King George 111, on the throne, and that’s why you got away with that Boston Tea Party.
The sly French were complicit in your victory..and, to all intents and purposes, the Frogs croaked loudest also at the Trianon fiasco when Hungary lost around 60-70% of its territory.
Vietnam…”agent orange” chemical warfare…guess what – you lousy Yankees once again…indiscriminate bombing of women and children, atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki..etc etc etc.
And, a poster specially printed up for you today with the ink still dry:
If you didn’t see it with your own eyes
Or hear it with your own ears
Don’t invent it with your small mind
And Share it with your BIG MOUTH!
@Ron’s whatever,
Hold on, are you seriously admitting that you are a Brit, then bashing Americans for their imperialism, slave trading, and genocide? Sure, those things are all true, but you Brits started every one of them, and happened to have started the extermination of the indigenous populations in Australia and New Zealand, to boot! And chemical warfare? Have you not read about World War I? Or did your history book start in 1920? Even if it did, it would include Bomber Harris, the guy who fire-bombed Dresden, among plenty of other indiscriminate women and children massacres. I guess you’re saying that German women and children don’t count?
Oh, I get it, you’re providing satire, like Feher Gyorgy. Maybe you should forget about how horrible Americans are and start worrying about Hungary, the subject of this website. Glass houses and all that, mate.
Szabad Ember or Sophist, or Shitbag…whichever you prefer?
This website is about Hungary? Well, one could be forgiven for thinking otherwise with posters using names like Szabad Ember, and all!
I know when they let you out for a day or so you like to get your hosepipe out and start slapping everybody about the head with it in an indiscriminate fashion as did Bomber Harris and is nasty co-pilots over Dresden.
I declare with the best intentions that you are the worst, condescending liberal pinko, it has ever been my misfortune to encounter.
Slip back into that damp corner of depravity and dream up some more bullshit that might impress the mentally challenged, matey!!
You guys are funny!
These Morons will be threatening to invade poland anytime now…..
Jobbik as a (whole)group have about 1 brain cell between them, so nobody should listen to anything that these retards have to say on any subject.
I’ve watched the disaffected and metally-chalenged members of Jobbik rallying around the City Park on many occasions and sadly it does prove at least one thing. and that is that there are an awful lot of stupid people in Hungary that think wearing Nazi armbands is something that will bring Hungary nearer to Europe??