March 8th, 2012

Quotable: Viktor Orbán on Hungary’s financial situation when he took office

“In May 2010, Hungary was closer to a financial collapse than Greece was.”

Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, speaking at a conference held by the Hungarian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, stating how close Hungary came to collapse following eight years of Socialist rule and the worldwide financial crisis. [hvg.hu]
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  • Democrat

    Utter rubbish. If that was the case why were his colleagues who said so put down so quickly?

    • Leto.

      That was an extremely stupid remark.

      For the very same reason why this was admitted only a year later:

      “Britain was just three hours away from going bust last year after a secret run on the banks, one of Gordon Brown’s Ministers has revealed.”

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1127278/Revealed-Day-banks-just-hours-collapse.html#ixzz1oXhs10sc

      -http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1127278/Revealed-Day-banks-just-hours-collapse.html

      • mchungary

        But that statement, which the PM uttered above, is a total abomination.

        Here are the figures:

        www . kozoskassza . hu

    • mchungary

      Our PM has no clue about our countries finances, and the country was well on track during Osko/Bajnais time.

      www . kozoskassza . hu

      • Leto.

        .. which is a web page of Bajnai’s foundation “Haza és Haladás Közpolitikai Alapítvány”
        and it must be so truthful like their analysis about the new election law. :D

        -http://www.hazaeshaladas.hu/rolunk.html

        It’s not worth even looking at it.

        • mchungary

          @Leto

          If you would have bothered to read our constitution, you would have know that the figures and numbers that are displayed on www . kozoskassza . hu are in fact public domain. You can walk in and get a copy, and make your own Excel sheet out of it, or download it if you prefer.

        • mchungary

          @Leto

          Oh and the latest development is that the 2000 Polish protesters will get free transport on the Hungarian tax payers money. So you were wrong.

          I will update you with further development on how much of the tax payers money is going to organize the Peace March.

        • Szabad Ember

          @Leto

          Bajnai’s foundation is much more neutral and trustworthy than you are, so if you say it’s “not even worth looking at”, it must be pretty good; I’ll check it out!

  • Aloof

    Starting to sound a little desperate. This guy walks around like he’s teflon or something.

  • Feher Gyorgy

    Orban is not a teflon tap dancer; he’s a man of steel, a bulldozer and he nails the hole hard. He’s a savage warrior, the biggest European leader since Rollo.

  • mchungary

    This make me worried. As a PM he shouldn’t be saying things like this. This has nothing to do with the truth, the country was actually on improvement. No wonder the forint went from 180 to sky high after they took over.

    • Vidra

      I think that’s a bit of an exaggeration. However, the Viktator does bring to mind the old one about the doctor who says “the operation was a complete success but unfortunately the patient died”.

      • mchungary

        @Vidra

        I truely and sincerely wish it was an exaggeration.

        05 Jan, 2010, CHF/HUF Closed @ 180.91365 Forint
        14 March, 2010 CHF/HUF Closed @ 182.47139 Forint

      • mchungary

        See the whole 100′s of millions of Euro.

        Let me give you an example Vidra. If people repaid their loans in 2010 march, then Erste bank (just one out of many banks) wouldn’t have recorded a 567 million loss in 2011.

        Do you see how severe and wreckless the financial policies are at the moment, like there are no checks and balances no consequences?

      • mchungary

        And that is 567 Euro, not Forint loss that Erste made.

      • mchungary

        Bah sorry for typos Vidra, 567 million euro.

        • Vidra

          Hi McHu. Not disagreeing with you about Orbán buggering up the economy for one nanosecond, just that it was rocky under MSZP as well (though Orbán never made good on his promises to reveal how bad it was, probably because the fundamental problems need 5-10 years to fix). The other difference is that the international community (and especially investors) had confidence in the socialists and almost none in Vik’s ham-fisted economic nationalism.

  • Sophist

    Rollo?

  • Feher Gyorgy

    Rollo aka RobertI
    wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollo

  • Really

    The faithful will believe whatever he says and there’s still enough of ‘em to keep him in office.

    • Leto.

      You could resign yourself to that the Hungarian Prime Minister will be called Viktor Orbán for a good while, at least until 2018.

      • Szabad Ember

        @Leto

        Wow, Leto, you seem really confident; maybe you know something we don’t, like exactly how Fidesz will steal the election in 2014.

        Regardless, just because Orbán plans to act like Putin and destroy any chance of the opposition having a fair chance at winning, doesn’t mean that he will be successful. Therefore I will not resign myself to anything, especially since you’re the one telling us to do so.

      • mchungary

        @Leto

        Unless you rigged the elections, or changed around the districts so the districts were worth more where Fidesz voters are residing, you couldn’t possible know that.

        Not to mention, that the sharks within his own party are circling him. There are others that want to be Prime Minister in the Fidesz party.

        • Leto.

          How funny indeed. It goes without saying that I think this is what is the most likely scenario, given the known facts now.
          If I knew the future then I’d rather buy shares and lottery tickets instead of posting here.

          • Leto.

            most likely scenario by far

          • mchungary

            @Leto

            I will reply with a quote, as what you stated has zero facts in it:

            “While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn’t there?”

          • Leto.

            Of course, no facts… :D You’re not dumb so you know it very well, too, that the most likely scenario by far is another Orbán PM term after 2014. Be brave and admit it. ;)

          • mchungary

            @Leto

            Actually, I checked my crystal ball, the Fidesz did unfortunately not win in 2014.

          • Leto.

            Get a better one. :) And study the polls and by-election results in the meantime,

          • mchungary

            @Leto

            I double checked, sorry, Fidesz no go in 2014. Crystal ball says the party imploded through internal conflict and people leaving.

          • Leto.

            Get a new and better one, filled with a LOT less wishful thinking.

          • mchungary

            @Leto

            I checked the power, it is functional. The crystal ball never lies.

          • Szabad Ember

            @Leto

            “the most likely scenario by far is another Orbán PM term after 2014.”

            You are deluded. Anyone who extrapolates poll numbers two years in advance is just engaging in wishful thinking, especially when the poll numbers say that 75% of respondents feel that the government is doing an unsatisfactory job.

            Orbán himself is expecting a loss in 2014; why else would he give his allies in supposedly independent positions of government 9-year terms? He’s counting on a loss in 2014, four years of hamstrung government run by some party currently in opposition or not yet formed, then a triumphant return in 2018. That’s his plan, although he’s also trying to create the conditions for fraud in the 2014 elections, so that the opposition doesn’t get a 2/3 majority and change the constitution again. It’s so clear, even you could see it, but then you already know that and are just trying to trick people into believing the party line.

  • TiborB

    in other words:

    hungary stood on the edge of abyss when VO became prime minister. But since, thanks to him Hungary made decisive step forward…

    • mchungary

      @TiborB

      Let me have the honour to finish that sentence.

      “But since, thanks to him Hungary made decisive step forward…” into the abyss.

  • spectator

    “the Hungarian Prime Minister will be called Viktor Orbán for a good while, at least until 2018″

    - By you, and only by you.

    The rest will undoubtedly sober up enough to dare to face with reality.

  • Steve

    He needs to stop attending so many conferences and lectures to justify his nonsense policies and behaviour and start thinking about the country, investment and what the people want and think about what the rest of the world feels about his dictatorship

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