May 24th, 2012

Wallenberg statue vandalized in Budapest; officials condemn “desecration”

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A local council official reported to the Budapest city council and police on Tuesday that pig legs had been tied around the statue the statue of Raoul Wallenberg, a former Swedish diplomat who rescued tens of thousands of Jews in Hungary during WW2.

The 2nd district council of Budapest and the foreign ministry condemned the statue’s desecration in separate statements. The Human Resources Ministry also condemned the “nasty act”.

“Those desecrating the memorial of a man who risked his life to save tens of thousands of people during the Holocaust acted against European traditions, culture and order of values,” the ministry said.

Wallenberg, who rescued tens of thousands of Jews and a Righteous among the Nations, has become a symbol of humanity in Hungary and around the world, it added. The Hungarian government has declared 2012 Wallenberg year to mark the 100th anniversary of his birth, the ministry noted.

The main opposition Socialists also expressed condemnation of the “lowly act”, adding that it revealed extremist views were spreading in Hungary. Party leader Attila Mesterhazy said he would personally initiate the sanctioning of hate speech and certain actions inciting hatred.

Budapest police spokeswoman Judit Pap told MTI that proceedings had been initiated in connection with the case. Arrangements have been made to clean the memorial, the work of sculptor Imre Varga.

MTI (Magyar Távirati Iroda) is the Hungarian news agency.
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  • Géza

    Ofcourse it is crazy to do this…but…this government will use it to enslave hungarian society!

    Ah the coming of the political correct liberal left wing hate speech laws in Hungary too..

  • Leto

    Unlike in Governor Horthy’s case, at least they didn’t damage the statue.

  • Géza

    By the way, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was just a “false flag” operation to implement, political correct, hate speech laws.

    • ricsi

      Exactly,the tribe is notorious for that.

    • Big Fish

      Yep, I concur with you. Ricsi is correct.

  • Aloof

    Well it’s either well hidden web cams, sensors or guard every statue in Hungary to even start to mitigate this. Wonder what jerk vandalized Margit Hid too? That wasn’t nice either. Lot of negativity, frustration and hate floating around the kingdom these days… hmmm… why is that?

  • Sidiot Avant

    Some people have no respect, disgusting behaviour.
    BTW, what happened to the Margit Hid? I must have missed that.

    • Aloof

      Someone whacked the cross off the top of the “Holy Crown” in the middle of the bridge. Could of been just a drunk frustrated fed up citizen or another tit for tat desecration contest that seems to be going on between right and left whack jobs.

      Nothing is going to beat digging up Kadar and his wife though. That one is still kiraly.

      • Bowen

        Considering that almost every building in Budapest has graffiti over it, this may just be another fed up citizen.

  • Ionic

    This may be an operation of foreign services (Mossad, CIA).
    A covert cultural-war against the Hungarian nation.

  • John

    I do not condone the vandalism of plaques and statues but this is a classic case of “an eye for an eye”, the lefties shouldn’t be surprised after how many Hungarian patriots’ memorials were desecrated.

    • Leto

      When admiral Horthy’s statue was vandalized by a jerk, a lawyer who keeps bragging about his J*ew.ish ethnicity and how he adores Gyurcsány, somebody posted an article from index.hu which listed the most notorious vandalisms. I scored the cases and it turned out that there were twice as many “left whack jobs” as “right whack jobs”.

      • Aloof

        What is it some sort of asshole contest to show which whack job is more immature, childish or ignorant?

        “Horthy’s statue was vandalized by a jerk, a lawyer who keeps bragging about his J*ew.ish ethnicity and how he adores Gyurcsány” Daniel’s relatives were also some of the 600,000 sent to Russia never to come back and he holds Horthy responsible for it right or wrong. His Horthy desecration was an exact replica of what Jobbik/Fidesz nuts did to the Karolyi statue 16 NOV 2010. Karolyi was a disaster for Hungary but so was Horthy no matter how patriotic he was. He gambled, sold his soul to the devil twice and lost and a lot f Hungarian lives were lost during his gambles.

        All this desecration tit for tat crap of historic Hungarians is a riot! The Soviet monstrosity I can fully understand but going to the length of digging up graves is a little more than creepy.

        Anyone participating in this childish crap look like ignorant fools including Daniel but he’s certainly no worse than any other morons that do it, and there were many more of them.

        Once again you try to rationalize and justify it and makes it appear that you condone such petty BS. Makes you look as foolish as the rest of these jerks.

  • Sidiot Avant

    @Aloof, thanks for detail.

  • spectator

    - And someone still dare to call these civilized…
    What a bunch of miserable morons!

    Before you go that way: All of them!

    • Leto

      All of them? For the record, do you mean the Gyurcsány-fan lawyer, too, who keeps bragging about his being a J*w and who poured paint on Horthy’s statue?

      • Vidra

        Interesting how, if you look at the wider picture, left-wing morons tend to vandalise monuments (apart from cemeteries) and the right-wing morons tends to shoot people. How do you explain that? The Left thinks life is more important than property while the Right thinks property takes priority over the wrong sort of people?

      • spectator

        Definitely!
        His actions are so futile, pathetic really.

        He should have used a bulldozer to get rid of that piece of crap, not paint it, come on!

        The very person who responsible for the death and misery of numerous victims of a brainless and unnecessary war should appear only as a footnote in any history-book, not to remember to as hero, by any means!

        Does anybody asked the relatives of the slaughtered thousands of the stupid battle by the Don?
        Or you are happy with the “heroic” sacrifice – for the glory of Adolf?

        Yes, I think Daniel has made a mistake, indeed.

        • Leto

          “He should have used a bulldozer to get rid of that piece of crap, not paint it, come on!”

          Maybe somebody will take your word.. say, for that recently defaced memorial on the Danube bank. :)

          • spectator

            For the record, do you mean, that erecting monuments for war-criminals is the right thing to do today in Hungary?

            For the record, the people who got slaughtered for some brain-dead ideology would deserve to get spit on their grave by glorifying the powerless puppet who sent them to die?

            For the record, are you dare to compare the above mentioned memorial with that half-ass excuse for a statue?

            Do you know something?
            The whole pathetic history regarding that Horthy monument truly represent the status of the desperate effort restoring the never really existed National Glory of Hungary.

            Ugly, clumsy, easily turn to ashes…

            Time to wake up Leto – and I mean it.

          • Leto

            “war criminal”

            For the record, after Admiral Horthy was liberated from German Nazi captivity in the May of 1945, he was arrested by the US Army indeed and he was detained at Nuremberg. He was interviewed but he didn’t even testify at the trials. His arrest may have been actually protective against Communist retributions. He was set free in December and first he lived in Germany and eventually he went to exile in Portugal where his family was financially supported by a group of wealthy people, among them several grateful Je*wish people.

          • justasking

            @spec,

            Nincs igazad about Horthy…

          • spectator

            @JA,
            - apologize, ma’am, but my opinion about that stupid war and who responsible for it based on facts.

            The reason I wasn’t grew up as an orphan was that my father has wounded prior to that particular event, and due to his rank get evacuated from the military hospital of Kiev, just in time. One of the few survivors of his squad – or whatever the term – we talking about hundreds!
            Let alone that they were poorly equipped, they have been used as cannon-fodders, for the greater glory of the Reich.

            Of course, we can discuss the term, – “war-criminal” sounds rather harsh, – considering that he was used and played over, but then again, he was the head of government, who else should have had greater responsibility?

            All in all, I guess both side would better off, if we let him rest in peace, instead of trying to falsify a National Hero, what he wasn’t.

          • justasking,

            @spec,

            ‘- apologize, ma’am’

            Oh, I must have lost rank…I thought I was your dear :)
            ——
            ‘but my opinion about that stupid war and who responsible for it based on facts’

            Yes and no…I’d say you personal opinions are a bit clouded by your families experience…which by the way is totally understandable.

            ————

            “Let alone that they were poorly equipped, they have been used as cannon-fodders, for the greater glory of the Reich’

            You can’t blame Horthy for that…blame the conditions that were imposed on Hungary Army under Trianon.
            ——–

            ‘he was the head of government, who else should have had greater responsibility?’

            He does…but, you can’t hold someone responsible for things that are out of their control either. That’s not fair.
            ———

  • Shame on You All

    Seems like Hungarians (of whatever ethnicity, political persuasion, religious ideology or social status) really do know how to make their country look like a backward self harming juvenile whingefest bunch of bickering animals.

    Why don’t you grow up. Wipe your arsefaced actions away and look yourself in the mirror enough to realise that you’re just heading for a social, political conflict which really doesn’t need to happen.

    Grow the feck up and try to be responsible people not criers and victims of your own creation.

  • Logical

    Note that Horthy went into exile in António de Oliveira Salazar’s Portugal, a right-wing dictatorship.

    • Leto

      Should he have gone to the Soviet Union?

  • Nem Nem Soha

    Come on, Wallenberg was an American spy. He was educated in America and spied for them in Berlin before his posting to Hungary. THAT is why the Russians held him when they caught him. Additionally, who gives a crap about what people on the streets of France or Holland think about Hungarian politics? Has any politican here raped an African toilet cleaner?

  • RAUL

    idiots never dia
    they just mulitplay

  • spectator

    @JA-ZS
    Dear me! – and I thought I was upgrading…
    Anyway, the topic “deadly” serious.

    In my opinion there is no good war ever, so much for sure.
    I was referring (OK, not explicitly, sorry) of lack of proper clothing even, the other military equipment was kind of (bad) yoke too.
    However, two aspect:
    - What if they was be better equipped? Besides, that maybe less would be frozen to death, the outcome wouldn’t be much different.
    - If someone a responsible leader of a country, let alone, even the chef of all staffs, shouldn’t declare war and send ill-equipped troops against the Russians, whatever happens, because he must have known, that they stand no chance – as it turned to be the case.

    Dear Zs, I think, we all would be better off, if we just tried to move on and work on our present problems – we have plenty of those, – instead trying to dig up old corpses, tear up old wounds.
    Yes, we know, how it was, or don’t even, yes, some of us never forget, but time is a one-way business, so is life, and as such I think it way too precious to waste on something what we can’t change on – the past.

    • justasking,

      @spec,

      ‘Dear me! – and I thought I was upgrading…’

      Uhhh…no. Please go back to calling me ‘dear’ if you must. :)
      ————

      ‘In my opinion there is no good war ever’

      I think it safe to say, that most people are of that opinion.
      ——-
      ‘If someone a responsible leader of a country…shouldn’t declare war and send ill-equipped troops against the Russians….because he must have known, that they stand no chance – as it turned to be the case’

      You know, we don’t know for sure what information Horthy and those in charge had (what they did or did not know) what they were to expect regarding what the troops would up against etc.

      I would seriously, have to do some more reading regarding this time in our history before I’m prepared to enter into a decent conversation with you. As it stands now, aside from the ‘here/there’ comments I encountered over the years, for the most part I’m in the dark on this subject.

      Yet, I have to tell you…I can’t see any Military leader, with deliberate intent, sending his men out on a suicide mission. I just can’t see it.
      ———-

      ‘ I think, we all would be better off, if we just tried to move on…instead trying to dig up old corpses, tear up old wounds.’

      Yes and no…our history has been suppressed/dismissed long enough, that it deserves to have the record set straight. Painful as it maybe, that is the only time people are able to move on.

      I do agree though that more focus should be placed on present day issues.
      ————

      ‘but time is a one-way business, so is life, and as such I think it way too precious to waste on something what we can’t change on – the past’

      Yeah, but there’s nothing wrong with reflecting on it.

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