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July 4th, 2012

Leader of ethnic Hungarian party in Romania denies plans for Hungarian party on agenda

It is not a priority of the Democratic Union of Hungarians in Romania (RMDSZ) to set up a political party in Hungary, the party’s leader, Hunor Kelemen, said on Tuesday, after senior RMDSZ politicians flagged the idea at the weekend.

Kelement told Erdelyi Kronika, a Hungarian-language daily published in Romania, that the RMDSZ planned to concentrate on the Romanian general election in autumn.

“There is no decision on this issue and it will not be considered in the near future, although the idea emerged some time ago,” he told the paper.

He added, however, that the suggestion that RMDSZ should have an institutional framework or party in Hungary, to which Hungarians with dual citizenship could give their vote, was “not a blasphemous idea”.

Senior RMDSZ politicians told the party’s council of representatives at a meeting in Targu Mures (Marosvasarhely) on Sunday that a party in Hungary could be established in collaboration with ethnic Hungarian organisations in Slovakia, northern Serbia and Transcarpathia (western Ukraine) to represent the interests of Hungarians living outside the motherland.

In the June 10 election, RMDSZ secured 5.52 percent of the vote, up from 5.12 percent in 2008.

Tibor Toro, the leader of a party rival, the Hungarian National People’s Party of Transylvania (EMNP), told Kronika that RMDSZ should come out in the open about its “embarrassed relationship with the Hungarian Socialist Party [MSZP]“.

Leader of the MPP, Jeno Szasz, said “RMDSZ does not need to register as a party in Hungary because it already has one; it is called MSZP.”

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  • get real

    “Hungary is a stable democracy. While European governments are failing everywhere, in Hungary a strong two-thirds majority has ruled for two years”

    This what we expect now after the coup d’etat!

    The nazi’s are back!

    • Ma Jar

      What do the nazi’s have to do with the leader of the ethnic Hungarian party in Romania?

  • get real

    Right now, in Romania happens a coup d’etat that means the new power took over the democartic institurions and do chances that have nothing to do with democracy!

    The German media is compering the situation in Romania with the take over by the nazi German party in 1933!

    The Huns(RMDSZ) were part in the former gov and they were awarded
    with ministerial seats back then!

    Once the former aliance lost the power, guess what, the jerk huns went to the new aliance to kiss asses and maybe
    to get a bone to chew!

    One more time we can see the character of these rats that poisen the political life in Romania by changing colors
    upon interest!

    I repeat again and again, never ever rely on the imbecile huns b/c that will make you to lose!

    The actual situation will not last forever, and at the next oportunity the hun rats will try to get back,but not here in Romania maybe in Kazachstan !!!!

    • Cnut

      I don’t know about the ins and outs of Romanian politics, but a political party is free to leave coalition or alliance at any time. Otherwise it wouldn’t be a coalition/alliance, they would just be one big political party.

      Political parties have a duty to their voters to try and implement their policies and represent them as best they can, and obviously a party can do this better if they are in government.

      In fact they would be being irresponsible to pass up the opportunity to be in government just because of past elections.

    • Ma Jar

      Get real….lessons in English.

  • Cnut

    As for RMDSZ forming a party, I still think it is a great idea. The electorate wants a non-MSZP, non-Fidesz, non-whackjob party. That’s really their only requirement. And RMDSZ fits that.

    And this is really not much of a denial:

    “There is no decision on this issue and it will not be considered in the near future, although the idea emerged some time ago.”

  • get real

    A political party define himself with a political platform!

    The jerks in RMDSZ they don’t have a political platform other than to be oportunistic to get to the power by any means to implement their revisionist agenda by shantage!

    guess what, the people have learned about the fact that they have a problem with their “backbone” so they are treatening them like shit!!

  • Viking

    The idea to build a Party in Hungary for new Hungarian citizens can be an interesting thing, if the aim is to push the repatriations of the several hundred thousand (millions?) Hungarians who have moved from pre-Trianon areas into post-Trianon Republic of Hungary

    Given that Fidesz’ policies just speed up that move, empring the pre-Trianon area, this party would most likely be anti-Fidesz

    This party has the possibility to reach 10% or more of the electorate

  • get real

    Viking, I am one of the sponsors to send the huns in Hungary!
    We are full of them!

    • trollolah

      You are “full of them” because your country stole Hungarian land!

  • get real

    Full of them, means that we are sick and tired dealing with this midget minoity!
    They are only one and a half millions so they can be fitted in that little piece of land Hungary!

    troll, a correct name for you,did you lean about Kazachstan being your home land?

    • trollolah

      Did you ever finally learn about Erdély being Hungarian Land?
      You live in what part of “Romania”?
      If you are from “Ardeal” look around you, the buildings and the towns and citys do not lie. Accept fact that for over 1000 years, this beautiful land was part of central European culture, not vlach balkan culture!

  • get real

    trolly bacsi,

    You have to do a difference between “to occupy” and “to own”

    You never own Transilvania you just occupied it!

    We were here 1000 years before your arrival from Asia as a barbar hurd eating row meat on their horse back!!!

    the Huns are migratory people so it’s about time to go back in Asia!

    You came over a peacefull population, being here for centuries before, and you settle down thinking that from now on
    this land is yours!

    Now, cut 500 years from those 1000 b/c since the Mohach desaster, you the huns have desipeared as nation, being occupied by turcks and then by the Austrian empire on which Hungary had the roll of “kiss Miska” !!
    Despite the hun occupation over 500 year, the majority of the population in Transilvania was Romanian as you may notice today 6/1!!

    The Trianon was the most fair treaty b/c gave back not only to Romania, Transilvania, but did justice to the other countries where the huns were occupier!

    I invaite all of you revisionist morons at the 100 Anniversary of the Trianon on 2020!

  • get real

    booom

    • trollolah

      “booom” (sic) is not a reply, silly vlach former shepherd.
      You keep mentioning ad nauseum that the Hungarians “are migratory people” but look at your own folk! The vlachs migrated all over the place with their sheep!
      Vlachs are nothing more than transhumance migrators! At least Hungarians migrated properly, going from Point A to Point B, then settling down and establishing a great nation!

  • get real

    trolly bacs! I can take you to Sarmisegetusa, which is not in your history books from many reasons!

    Just for you,go to Rome Italy and ask about the column of Traian and guess what, you will find Dacs fighting with the
    ronamas 1000 year before you came from poit A( you just forget to mention: Kazachstan you know Borat Land)

    Leaving poit A can have two reasons:

    1) somebody kicked you out from there
    2) there is genetic on migratory peoples, like gypsies to
    migrate like someone without land!

    The big mistake of you was that you came to point B which is our homeland Romania.

    The Trianon treaty just show you that occupying others land it doesn’t mean ownership!

    How obout you morons to go back in point A and claim
    others land there, but I guess is no room foryou there
    so you can think for poin C you jerk!

    • trollolah

      I have seen your Szarmizegetusa, an absurd Ceausescu reconstruction of a Dacian site, remodeled to be used for the film “Dacii”! And the Column of Trajan in Rome clearly shows Roman genocide against the poor Dacians!
      Remember your transhumant vlach ancestors, moving from Point A (Albania) to Points B,C,D.E,F & G, wherever there was grass for sheep!

  • get real

    Loto Bacsi,

    Romania put the Romanian flag once on the top of the Hungarian Parliament during the WWII. Don’t play with those asian words b/c we can visit you again!

    • trollolah

      “Turning over portions of Hungary with its civilized and refined population will be like turning over Texas and California to the Mexicans. The great Powers of the Allies should hang their heads in shame for what they allowed to take place in this country after an armistice”

      Gen. Harry Hill Bandholtz, U.S. Army, 5 February 1920.

  • get real

    trolly, keep dreaming!

    Trianon just proved it who is right!

    • trollolah

      Trianon just proved the power of bribery and lies.

  • get real

    It was a natural result,after centuries of waiting for justice to be done!

    We won you lost!

    See ,if was not enough on what you have already robbed the payback was done in Trianon!
    It is too bad that at Trianon they did not integrate you in Ukraine b/c it doesn’t matter for you, anyway, you are a migratory people!

    • trollolah

      “Anyone with a knowledge of the Roumanian character could not but be aware of the fact that there would be abuses”

      F. Rattigan, British Charge d’Affaires, 8 October 1919

  • trollolah

    get rau, apparently you read about as well as you write “Engleza”!
    Your own vlach people were migratory! Remember your transhumant vlach ancestors moved their animals all over the balkans, wherever there was grass for sheep!

  • amicu

    Mai idiot basist, nu poti sta linistit fara sa-ti arati timpenia?

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      According to Google Translate this means

      “May idiot bass player can not sit still without Timpen you look?” in English

      or “Május idióta basszusgitáros nem tud nyugodtan ülni anélkül Timpen nézel?” in Hungarian

      :)

      • anonymous

        Well , “băsist” means supporter of President Băsescu and not a bass-player.

  • get real

    amicu ,Ponta’s child, did you plagiate this:

    “Mai idiot basist, nu poti sta linistit fara sa-ti arati timpenia?”

    Loto bacsi, it is imposible to translate an asian language
    like bozgor, in civilized language like English!
    If you want to torture somebody, just put thim to learn Hungarian. For sure he will comit suicide!

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      @Rumanian scum:

      The English and Hungarian translations of that Rumanian sentence perfectly correspond to each other.

      • anonymous

        That is because at Google Translate all translations are made trough an English version.

        Try this ” Măi idiot băsist, nu poți sta liniștit fără
        să-ți arăți tâmpenia ?”

        • Leto. مؤدّب

          Ok, multumesc. The translation is still very broken (in both languages) but at least now I understand… with the additional info that “basszusgitáros/bass player” is a supporter of Basescu) :D

  • get real

    loto bacsi, is not you fault you was born with that feeling that the maghyars are perfect!
    It is a genetic defficiency mirrored in arrogance and stupidity! Don’t worry you are only 10 mil. so is not so bad!

  • get real

    And the spelling is owesome!
    Loto you may be one of those losers hiding in RMDSZ!

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      May idiot bass player/májusi idióta basszusgitáros:

      I copy-pasted somebody else’s Rumanian sentence and put it through Google Translate ‘cos I wondered what it means.
      I cannot (and I wouldn’t want to) put a Rumanian sentence together, no matter how broken it would be.

      • Leto. مؤدّب

        @Rumanian scum:

        No doubt your spelling in English is “owesome”. :)

  • trollolah

    What exactly is “owesome”? Perhaps it is some kind of faux-Latin language abbreviation for “We Owe So Much To The Magyars!”

  • get real

    trolly:

    “We Owe So Much To The Magyars!”

    That’s right, the massacres, misery,imbecility and you name it!

    Get lost jerk!

    • trollolah

      get real, just admit it. You are jealous of us. That is why you are here, and not on some Rumanian news site.

  • get real

    I enjoy myself playing with the losers, like the cat with the mouse
    I will stay on thnis site until you the Jerks aka Huns
    will whish me ” Happy Trianon Anniversery”!!!

    • trollolah

      get real enjoys playing with himself, after listening to manele.

      • Leto. مؤدّب

        Why after? :D

        • Leto. مؤدّب

          Here’s a sample of this Rumanian national shite: -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK0uc4Cz6zE

          :D

          Okay, I must admit the Hungarian version “lakodalmas” isn’t any better either:
          -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQr3OUd1UAI

  • get real

    Loto, we have founded a common ground!:)

    I can’t believe!

  • olga

    @ get real

    re: “I will stay on thnis site until you the Jerks aka Huns
    will whish me ” Happy Trianon Anniversery”!!!”

    Would I meet the criteria for a “Jerk aka Hun” and if so would my wishing you that Happy Anniversary get rid of you permanently as far as this website goes?

    • justasking

      @Olga,

      ‘if so would my wishing you that Happy Anniversary get rid of you permanently as far as this website goes?’

      Have you gone mad?!? Step away, from accommodating this lunatics request! Let him stay!

      Relish in the fact, that he’s in a constant state of stress and anxiety that’s fueled by his own hatred.

      He deserves nothing better!

  • get real

    Olgica,

    Not “Happy Anniversary”! I said” Happy Trianon Anniverary”

    But, you have to wait til 2020 when we are partying the 100 anniversary!

    olgica, this is a little pay back for the massacres and misery we endure from the barbar huns over the centuries!

    • trollolah

      If the “massacres and misery” were so bad, why are there so damn many of you today? In fact, you vlachs were treated quite well in olden times, and your numbers prove this!
      Rumanian schools teach young vlachs the lie, we were cruel to them, so they will not feel guilty about the truth, them stealing Erdély from us!

  • olga

    @ JA

    re: \Have you gone mad?!? Step away, from accommodating this lunatics request! \

    I called his bluff – I knew he would not take me up on it. If by a 1% chance I turned out to be wrong, I would have had to weigh my options. I don’t know if I could have \done it\ but it would have been tempting to expose him as a liar.

    there is no way he could have stayed away from posting that garbage, yet he would not have been able to get away with it regardless of what names he used because of his very distinct style and problems with the English language.

    Luckily for me, I don’t have to weight the pros and cons because I knew he would make an excuse; that crystal ball never lets me down (except when it told me you would visit me with the kids and take them to the Pride Parade to teach them tolerance)

    • justasking

      @Olga,

      ‘(except when it told me you would visit me with the kids and take them to the Pride Parade to teach them tolerance)’

      :D :D

  • get real

    God bless you Olgica!

  • get real

    trolly, you lost Transilvania b/c was never Hungarian land!

    The last genocide you did to the Romanians was after the Vienna dictate!
    If you did what you did in 4 years 1940-1944 and you multiply
    with a couple of centuries imagine the crimes and misery
    you did to the Romanian population!

    Get use to it: Transylvania never ever was owned by Hungary b/c you just occupied the land!
    Stupids can’t own a land like this!
    We have it forever!

  • olga

    @ get real

    I found a new hobby for you – please find the Lonely Planet website (I made sure I found a website that has no agenda ) and correct the “misinformation” – I only copied a few sentences for you but feel free to sue the company for “false information”

    “History

    For a thousand years, up till WWI, Transylvania was associated with Hungary. In the 10th century a Magyar (Hungarian) tribe, the Székelys, settled in what it called Erdély (‘beyond the forest’ – the literal meaning of Transylvania).

    AND

    Medieval Transylvania was an autonomous unit ruled by a prince responsible to the Hungarian crown. The indigenous Romanians were serfs.

    Hopefully you will have a new enemy (Lonely Planet) and you won’t have time to post on this website. I can only hope

    • trollolah

      Excellent post, Olga! After “Lonely Planet”, our furious little visitor should investigate Rough Guide and Rick Steves! :D

  • get real

    olgica , How was at the “Pride Parade” did they vote you the Quinn of the Parade?

    I give you a better idea,to teach tolerance , take your child in Rome Italy and ask about the Traian’s column!

    You will not see your buddies from the Parade there but some Romans fighting Dacs !

    The column represent the birth certificate of the Romanian
    people and as a prove 80% from the Romanian language has
    Latin origins

    what means that? that 1000 years before your invasion from Asia the Romanians were where they are now!

    If you can’t handle the reality is better to take your child to a gay parade just show how “normal” people behave
    and dress!

    • trollolah

      Column represents Roman genocide against Dacians! Column represents Romans stealing other peoples land and gold! And Column is fine example of ancient art! Unfortunately for you, your language proves your origin is south of Duna River, so your “birth certificate” is illegitimate!

  • get real

    trollika you ran out of your buzz?

    • trollolah

      You will loose “your buzz” after you read Lonely Planet, Rough Guide and Rick Steves! The Truth will set you free!

  • get real

    I don’t have time, I have to be vigilant on this forum!

    Can you tell me in few words what is all about?

    • trollolah

      They all say “Olah come from South!”

  • olga

    @ real

    Don’t be coy – you knew I was elected Queen of the Parade since you handed me the Crown in your pin tutu – no reason to be bitter for being the runner up.

    Here is the Summary of the Lonely Planet article if you cannot deal with reading a 5 lines.

    - For a 1000 years up to WWI, Transylvania was associated with Hungary.

    -Medieval Transylvania was autonomous & ruled by a prince responsible to the Hungarian crown.

    -The indigenous Romanians were serfs.

    I can cut it to 1 line in case you are too busy sulking about being a runner up

    For a 1000 years up to WWI, Transylvania was part of Hungary.

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      Except it’s highly questionable the Rumanian surfs were “indigenous”. Ok, if you mean the last 800 years then yes, they are indigenous.

      Written documents mention Vlachs in the Kingdom of Hungary only in 1210, namely in the very south of Erdély, between the river Bodza and Pass Vöröstoronyi.
      The first settlement with a Vlach name mentioned in 1360

      -http://www.adatbank.ro/inchtm.php?akod=979
      -http://szekelyivadekok.tripod.com/erdely_23.html

      All in all, the Rumanians appeared after the Mongol invasion which resulted in a huge population loss in all of the Kingdom of Hungary.

  • olga

    @ Leto

    re: “Except it’s highly questionable the Rumanian surfs were “indigenous”. Ok, if you mean the last 800 years then yes, they are indigenous.”

    I have no idea what I meant – I am better at cutting and pasting from Lonely Planet than knowing what the hell the Romanians’ status in Transylvania 800 years ago. Bad enough I am aware of their status in 2012

  • olga

    correction:

    I am better at cutting and pasting from Lonely Planet than knowing what the hell the Romanians’ status was in Hungary’s Transylvania 800 years ago.

  • Anonymous

    It’s fascinating to read all this ranting nationalistic crap from both Romanians and Hungarians. As an American I have two suggestions.

    1. Hungarians accept reality. The borders will not change again.
    2. Romanians start living like civilized members of modern Europe and grant full language rights and stop trying to suppress the long Hungarian history of Transylvania. Stop repeating the “oppression” you complain so much about at the hands of Hungary 100 years ago.

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      “The borders will not change again.”

      FYI, even Francis Fukuyama retracted his ridiculous statement. (“History is over.”)

  • get real

    How about to talk 1000 years before your invasion from Asia!

    Considering this you already are not native of Europe and the best to put it, you are an ” invasive specie”.

    The fucking”kindom” get lost with the Mohach episode and then was integrated in the Austrian empire!

    Bitch, there were no native people in Serbia, Slovakia, Ukraine, Burgerland, etc. before of your invasion?

    It is hard to fabricate a history to sustain a utopia!

    Loto bacsi, you was born to be a loser and you will die like a loser because you associate with losers.
    Fukuyama is jap, amin he is a loser too!

    You lost two WW’s and you still having an opinion?

    Anonynous, we don’t want “Americans” in this discussions!

    The Americans are irrelevant!

    • trollolah

      “fabricate a history” is the one thing “get real” does well.

  • get real

    I guess your historian presented to you the “hungarian version” of the barbars in Europe and now you are sad to find out the plain reality!

    You are intruders and nothing else!

    VIVA LA TRIANON!

    • trollolah

      And you, “get real” are a hairy-footed sandal-wearing former shepherd from the Balkans! You are a transhumance migrator, and still smell like sheep!

  • get real

    throllika we are here you are out! End of story!

    VIVA TRIANON!

    • trollolah

      No, foolish creature! It will always be “Land of the Szecklers”, an island of Proud Magyars in the center of your “Rumania”! If you do not like it, return to Pindus Mountain or Timok Valley!

  • Nem Nem Soha

    The Roma are the Romanian peoples ancestors, along with a Turkish, Vllach and Jewish mixture. They have very small forehead and eye brows that are linked together. For many, especially those who live in sewers or the orphangae the thumb finger is not free to move but part of the hand. Roma/Romanians are hairy and the frontal lobe of the brain is retarted, as is the base. The world can see from CNN, DW and BBC the AIDS children in chains and the starving people. Now the Roma/Romainians are prostitutes in Amsterdam. Mostly African clients too.

  • get real

    that little island will be gone soon!

    We don’t need revisionist imbeciles in our backyard!

    ” proud what?” those jerks that are bagging on the streets of Budapest???

    The Harghita and Covasna are the poorest counties in Romania b/c the ” proud Huns” are lasy asses and the stupid ones in Romania!

  • get real

    nem nem soha ,you ever will have Transylvania again!

    This is what you must understand!

    Regarding the Roma population, here is an estimate:

    The number of Romani people in Hungary is disputed. In the 2001 census only 190,000 people called themselves Roma, but sociological estimates yield much higher numbers, about 5%-10% of the total population. Since World War II, the number of Roma has increased rapidly, multiplying sevenfold in the last century. Today, every fifth or sixth newborn is Roma. Estimates based on current demographic trends project that in 2050, 20.9% of the population will be Romani.[8]

    I can tell you we don’t have to wait so long, the 30%of gypsies in Hungary is a reality !!!

    We are European descendents and we did not migrate from Asia like you did.

    Romania is coming from Roma Italy, the prove is that 80%

    of the Romanian language is like the Italian and both are Latin!

    VIVA TRIANON!

  • justcurious (formerly olga)

    @ get real

    Although I’ve never been curious to understand your ramblings, it changed when you wrote:

    \I don’t have time, I have to be vigilant on this forum!\

    Did you by any chance hear God speaking to you and He warned you to be vigilant and asked you to monitor this website because failure to do so would result in Transylvania being immediately returned to Hungary?

  • get real

    I have to monitor this forum just for fun!

    I enjoy how the losers keep dreaming under the influence
    of that weed called revisionism!

    You guys you just keep dreaming,you make my day with your aberrations!

    VIVA TRIANON

  • trollolah

    Like so many young Rumanians, “get real” failed his graduation exams, and he has no job, no prospects, so this hairy-footed creature has much spare time. He also has an inferiority complex the size of North Bukowina…land which he probably thinks is “pamint rominesc!”

  • get real

    If I think a little bit more seriously , I guess Hungary is also Romanian land considering that we installed the
    Romanian flag on the Hungarian parliament in WWII!

    VIVA TRIANON!

    • trollolah

      You cannot think “more seriously”, because you are an idiot!

  • get real

    trollyka, Here is something to think about:

    the “great Kazachstan”

    VIVA TRIANON!

    • trollolah

      get real, here is something to think about:
      your birthplace in Albania!
      VESSZEN TRIANON!

  • get real

    VIVA TRIANON!

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