July 8th, 2012

Hungarian Jewish leaders in talks with US government officials

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Leaders of Hungary’s Jewish community have held talks with United States government officials about how to thwart anti-Semitism, the Unified Hungarian Jewish Congregation (EMIH) told MTI on Friday.

EMIH and Federation of Jewish Communities in Hungary (Mazsihisz) officials visited the United States from June 26 to July 2 to present a new grassroots initiative for organising Jewish life as well as its international coordination.

Daniel Bodnar (EMIH) and Andras Heisler (Mazsihisz) held talks on active cooperation with the New York-based Anti-Defamation League.

Meeting senior State Department officials, they asked for concrete advice and assistance on setting up a system for monitoring anti-Semitic and anti-minority phenomena.

Heisler and Bodnar said anti-Semitism was mainly verbal and present in political discourse in Hungary.

They raised the issue of far-right website kuruc.info operating from a US server, and the growing influence of the radical nationalist Jobbik party on young people.

Hannah Rosenthal, special envoy to monitor and combat anti-Semitism, said she would soon visit Budapest to resume the dialogue.

Marie L. Yovanovitch, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State in the Bureau of European and Eurasian Affairs, expressed concern over the situation in Hungary. She said anti-Semitic writers had been incorporated into the national curriculum and she noted attempts to rebury author Jozsef Nyiro, a lawmaker during the rule of the Arrow-Cross Party in 1944-45.

MTI (Magyar Távirati Iroda) is the Hungarian news agency.
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  • freedom

    What a bunch of fanatic hater these alleged Jewish rulers are?

    I don’t think that Hungarian Jewish elites need help from America on how to establish a pro-Jewish discourse. Such pro-Jewish discourse regime was established under Bela Kun and the Communist party. Fact is that Hungarian Jewish rulers (not all Jews) know very well how to manipulate politics and so-called anti-semtism in their favor, they had almost a century of such practice, and several centuries before.

    What must be confronted is anti-Maygarism spread by racist who disguise themselves as victims of anti-semitism. The only reason American officials care about Jews in Hungary is because the Jewish kin in America are wealthy, live in $500,000 apartments in NY, own most the media, financially support American politicians with expensive gifts, deals, trips to Israel, etc.

    The so called Anti-Semtism does not exist. If Jews are so oppressed how come they have the most powerful American regime in the world backing them, how come they have a higher living standards then any other people in Hungary?

    Most so called Anti-Semitism is being fabricated by a small clique of Jewish elites being applauded by their brethren in Israel. This is all an attempt at uniting Hungarian-Jewish community who at presence does not pay attention to Jewish leaders and are integrating peacefully with Hungarians, such as Szegedi

    • Pete H.

      The presence of rising antisemitism is not fabricated. It is well documented. You only need to look at the transcripts of the Hungarian parliament and speeches by members of Jobbik and hate group organizations that they associate with.

      Nobody has claimed Hungarian Jew are oppressed. That is not the point. You are simply trying to create a strawman. The issue is rising antisemitism which in Hungary’s past has led to oppression and worse.

      “Fact is that Hungarian J*wish rulers (not all J*ws) know very well how to manipulate politics and so-called anti-semtism in their favor, they had almost a century of such practice, and several centuries before.”

      What an ignorant statement. As if the J*wish laws did not exist, as if the White Terror did not exist, as if the atrocities committed by the Arrow Cross did not exist. As if figures like Wass did not exist. As if real antisemitism did not exist then and now.

      • Leto. مؤدّب

        As if the red killers, the kunbélas and the rákosis didn’t exist. As usual, you carefully shut up about all those J-beasts.

        • Pete H.

          If those with oppressive communist ideologies were gaining power in Hungary I would certainly have just as much to say.

          To remind you again, my family lost everything in Hungary to the communists. And many family friends and relatives who stayed behind were jailed and some tortured by the communists.

          So, take your b*llsh*t about me supporting communism and put it where the sun don’t shine.

          • justasking

            @Pete H,

            If you so passionate about helping stop ‘the rise of anti-S*mitism’ globally (which by the way, your post brought tears to my eyes)…put your money where your mouth is and petition your Government, to stop casting a veto vote towards a 2 State solution.

            I would hazard a guess, that this would pave the way to eliminating anti-S*mitism…which is really anti-Z*onism and not anti-Sem.

          • Pete H.

            The roots of antisemitism in Hungary go back a lot farther than when Isr*al became a state. So, I doubt that a two state solution, which I agree with, would have much of an impact on Hungarian anti-semitism.

            And it’s too bad you have to be so cynical about my attitude towards communist rule in Hungary. Do you like projecting an ugly face?

            You are not really as stupid as Leto to believe I had any love for that period.
            Yet, you seem to like to double team with Leto when he uses that smear.

          • justasking

            @Pete H,

            ‘The roots of antisemitism in Hungary go back a lot farther than…’

            What ‘root’ are you talking about…The White Terror? The same ‘White Terror’ that only occurred as a result of the ‘Red Terror’ that was directed towards Hungary and Hungarians by Kun Bela and his band of merry men?

            Could one really call THAT an act of anti-Semitism, simply because the vast majority of those who happened to have orchestrated this entire event(Red Terror) including Kun, were Jewish?

            That to me, is not anti-Semitism. They could have all been Jehovah Witnesses, and the ‘White Terror’ would still have happened. It’s because of Newton 3rd Law of Motion that it happened and not because 95 % of the perps were Jewish…even though, that is the propaganda people have been spoon feed.
            ——–

            ‘So, I doubt that a two state solution, which I agree with’

            Yeah, I find that everybody seems to ‘agree’ with it, unfortunately, nobody seems to want to force the implementation of it.
            ———

            ‘would have much of an impact on Hungarian anti-semitism’

            No, maybe not…but if you compare to the ‘rise of anti-Semitism’ in Hungary, VS the rise of anti-Semitism that is occurring globally, directly due to the US’s constant veto’s…I would think you could appreciate, how your countries time, energy and money, could be better spent fixing that first, before trying to assist a piddly little country in the middle of Europe; that may or may not have a similar issue…no?
            ————-

            ‘And it’s too bad you have to be so cynical about my attitude towards communist rule in Hungary’

            Well, truth be told (not ugly) it’s not just your attitude towards ‘communist rule in Hungary’ that has me feeling the way I do…I just find you to be one of the most insincere, hypocritical and bigoted posters on poli.hu.

            ————-

            ‘You are not really as stupid as Leto to believe I had any love for that period’

            I don’t know what you’re capable of feeling or not feeling…
            ——-

            ‘Yet, you seem to like to double team with Leto when he uses that smear’

            I don’t double team with anybody around here…I simply respond to posts that happen to tweak my interest.

          • justasking

            sorry, forgot to ‘code’ my post…

            justasking says:
            Your comment is awaiting moderation.

            July 10, 2012 at 4:35 am
            @Pete H,

            ‘The roots of antis*mitism in Hungary go back a lot farther than…’

            What ‘root’ are you talking about…The White Terror? The same ‘White Terror’ that only occurred as a result of the ‘Red Terror’ that was directed towards Hungary and Hungarians by Kun Bela and his band of merry men?

            Could one really call THAT an act of anti-S*mitism, simply because the vast majority of those who happened to have orchestrated this entire event(Red Terror) including Kun, were J*wish?

            That to me, is not anti-S*mitism. They could have all been Jehovah Witnesses, and the ‘White Terror’ would still have happened. It’s because of Newton 3rd Law of Motion that it happened and not because 95 % of the perps were J*wish…even though, that is the propaganda people have been spoon feed.
            ——–

            ‘So, I doubt that a two state solution, which I agree with’

            Yeah, I find that everybody seems to ‘agree’ with it, unfortunately, nobody seems to want to force the implementation of it.
            ———

            ‘would have much of an impact on Hungarian anti-s*mitism’

            No, maybe not…but if you compare to the ‘rise of anti-S*mitism’ in Hungary, VS the rise of anti-S*mitism that is occurring globally, directly due to the US’s constant veto’s…I would think you could appreciate, how your countries time, energy and money, could be better spent fixing that first, before trying to assist a piddly little country in the middle of Europe; that may or may not have a similar issue…no?
            ————-

            ‘And it’s too bad you have to be so cynical about my attitude towards communist rule in Hungary’

            Well, truth be told (not ugly) it’s not just your attitude towards ‘communist rule in Hungary’ that has me feeling the way I do…I just find you to be one of the most insincere, hypocritical and bigoted posters on poli.hu.

            ————-

            ‘You are not really as stupid as Leto to believe I had any love for that period’

            I don’t know what you’re capable of feeling or not feeling…
            ——-

            ‘Yet, you seem to like to double team with Leto when he uses that smear’

            I don’t double team with anybody around here…I simply respond to posts that happen to tweak my interest.

  • General Specific

    Maybe MAZSIHISZ is one of the reasons why Jews are not so popular in Hungary.
    A little less hostility a little less artificially generated paranoia, a little modesty, and some effort
    to adopt to the host country, instead of expecting the locals to worship Jews would help.
    Jews are all over the world, most of them are either incapable or unwilling to assimilate. Why is that?
    When I emigrated to the USA, I didn’t run around with Hungarian flags, didn’t expect special treatment based
    on my ethnic origin, and didn’t join any anti-US
    Hungarian organizations.
    I simply made an effort not to stick out and offend the locals in any way. Hanging onto traditions is overrated.

    • Anonymous

      Why do you post under so many different names?

  • Viking

    General Specific says:
    July 9, 2012 at 2:04 am

    Hanging onto traditions is overrated
    —

    I assume the ‘ethnic Hungarians’ living before inside pre-Trianon and now outside post-Trianon Hungary, all will agree with you, including their Slovak, Serb, Ukrainian (soon to be Russian), Romanian and Croatian neighbours

  • General Specific

    Hungarians didn’t move to foreign countries. The countries were moved over parts of Hungary.
    They are not immigrants, they are right at home, even if the nazi Slovak, Serb, Ukrainian, Romanian and Croatian neighbours don’t like that. This is a special situation,
    and it’s not about tradition, it’s about land-grabbing neighbors and their ethnic cleansing efforts.

  • Big Fish

    Why come crying to the US govt. It would be more appropriate to discuss with EU govt officials. Strange.

  • Beleiur

    Ineresting. The entire country’s reputation boils down to one website, that has to be closed at all costs, even talking to politicans and organizations. Does anyone finds this a bit strange? Even if the site is anti-roma antisemetic etc?

  • Daniel

    The irony of all the comments following this article is the obvious anti semitism and labelling of Jews following the article and yet at the same time vain pretence of not being anti semitic..when are you all going to cut the crap?? I tell you what how about saying ‘all hungarians are a bunch of thieving lying losers’…kind of stupid saying this because duh it’s totally not true. Same for saying generalised horrible things about any people from anywhere. Predjudice and hatred is stupid and is often used by politicians as a distraction from their own dirty work is an old as the hills political ploy. The actual reality is that there are simply good and bad people in every nation and people of the world and that’s that..probably like 50% bad and veering towards bad and 50% good and veering towards good within every nation on earth….

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