July 25th, 2012

Quotable: Viktor Orbán on Europe’s divisions and Hungarian provincialism

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“Europe is currently facing a rearrangement far greater than what we now comprehend from our Hungarian, somewhat provincial perspective.”

Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, at a meeting of Fidelitas, the youth organization of Fidesz. Orbán went on to say that Europe's eastern and western portions are on different trajectories, with the eastern nations getting their public finances under control while the west veers closer to a permanent "debt trap." [wsj.com]
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  • Pipo

    Orban is one big joke, and not even a good one. I truly pity the Hungarian people who voted for such a crook/loser/nutcase.

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      Such a post is what is a joke. Keep you pitying, you jerk, whatever nationality you are. Orbán rulez. :)

      • Vidra

        Yes Orbán does rule but a lot of foreigners wonder why. They can’t believe that all the other parties were even less electable, and that Overdose wasn’t eligible to be a candidate for PM due to human incompetence.

        • Leto. مؤدّب

          Because we, Hungarian voters wanted him to be. And he’ll be elected in 2014, too.

          “They can’t believe that all the other parties were even less electable”

          That’s simply because they are either ignorant about your MSZP/SZDSZ cronies or they have vested interest in their rule. Quite often the latter thing is the case.

          • Vidra

            Oh grow up! If the Socialists and Free Democrats really were my “cronies” do you think I’d describe them as “even less electable”?

            And if Overdose the wonderhorse does form his own party, or even Boo, the cute but moronic Pomeranian dog from America or (even more ridiculous a concept) a centre-left party that’s untainted by scandal, has a clear political manifesto and intelligent and articulate leaders, Orbán will be political history.

          • Anonymous

            I doubt Orbán will be re-elected after IMF austerity comes to town.

          • Leto. مؤدّب

            @Anonymous:
            Don’t have high hopes because the IMF austerity won’t come to town.

            @Vidra:

            Yes, I would think so. You’re a smarter type.

      • spectator

        “…Orbán rulez….”

        - What happened with Emil???

        • Leto. مؤدّب

          In case you didn’t hear, the party András Hajós always supported got annihilated by the Hungarian voters, so they don’t rulez. :)

  • Russian in Budapest

    Hungary needs a new party with a liberal leader but with guts.

    • Magyar

      Hungary needs a new Kossouth, a new Rákóczi, a new Horthy, a new Árpád, but never a new “liberal leader”.
      Liberalism has never worked for Hungary, and it never will.

      We don’t want it, it goes against the Magyar nation, against the Szent Korona, against the very essence of being Hungarian.

      And what are you doing in Budapest? I thought all Ruskies left decades ago?

      • Leto. مؤدّب

        FYI, Kossuth was a liberal politician. (No doubt nothing like the scum hallmarked by the name SZDSZ.)

        • Magyar

          In those days Liberalism meant something different. I doubt Kossouth was pro Gay rights or anti-nationalist.
          Plus, can you imagine a member of the SZDSZ fighting for Hungarys independence?

          • Leto. مؤدّب

            Didn’t I write this above?

      • Russian in Budapest

        If it’s against Magyar nation then this nation will inevitably die out soon (which happens already). The government understands that, that is why the new constitution and other shit is involved.
        Kossuth cannot be proGay as in his times the religious propaganda was more confident than today.
        There is nothing wrong with anti-nationalism, there is a problem with governments handling nationalities, they don’t want to integrate them – because it’s not cheap. The problem is in the laws, they are not “right”.

        I can show you an example.

        So here I am a tax-paying businessman, studying Hungarian, working my ass off to get the letelepedesi. Paying taxes on taxes for more taxes, paying for my child (for the egeszsegbistosito, because it’s now not free even if you lawfully work here and do all the shenanigans the NAV asks), transferring money from credits abroad, because as a non-citizen I cannot get any options except for the crazy leasing ones (which take away the freedoms of low percent credits).

        And then there is a girl from Taiwan, who can’t even speak well English, she gets the letelepedesi through the fake marriage. She will get a lot of benefits for free in no time. Then she’ll study some months Hungarian and get a citizenship within a few years. And she was not the only one, the guy who brought her in the BAH was with 4 others as well.

        See here I’m not even talking about other ways to get here and get the benefits (and there are millions literally, you can go and buy Hungarian citizenship in Ukraine for example, and many do so). I’m talking about the message Hungarian government gives to law-abiding people like me (Last time they said 10K euro on the account is not enough to live here, tell that to my cleaning lady, she gets a Magyar citizenship soon and she lives on ~50k forints per month).

        “Liberalism has never worked for Hungary, and it never will.”
        I’m sure many years ago when the tribes moved from Urals their leaders were pretty much liberal.
        Nowadays liberalism is somehow represented in a bad way in my opinion.
        The problem here if the nation Adapts to trends, it will survive, otherwise it will dissolve, like many others already, and will perish in decades.

        I’m doing business here, giving jobs to natives, paying taxes, learning Hungarian, accommodating to culture and “the ways” (see I’m already whining and nagging, that means I’m almost local :D , joking).
        And what are you doing here?

        • Russian in Budapest

          Sorry not 50k, 15k per month, most of the money she brings back to Ukraine.

          • Leto. مؤدّب

            Living on 15000 HUF per month? You must be kidding.

          • Russian in Budapest

            There are people giving houses and apartments for the rezsi fees.

    • justasking

      @Russian,

      ‘Hungary needs a new party with a liberal leader but with guts’

      Even though I’m a Conservative….I agree with you.

  • Zsolt

    \’m sure many years ago when the tribes moved from Urals their leaders were pretty much liberal\
    I can imagine chieftain Arpad and chieftain Szabolcs talking about gay-rights :D
    Yup bureaucracy is horrible, but last thing we need is one more of those evil liberal parties, but wait a minute one new would be great to split the left-liberal vote-base so they will never again win an election :D

  • spectator

    Thanks God!

    I got seriously worried that Mr.Orban started up with his music too…
    You know, since the Intendant of the Opera answers directly to the PM, I was pretty sure that there is an artist buried in somewhere too, and the “Orban Rulez” just a step away from “Emil Rulez” anyway…

    Could have been great to know, that for example Comrade Schmitt may also have a place in such group – don’t forget, he is a master of a certain blow-instrument, as we have had the possibility to learn about, not to mention a few other members of the gang!

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      For the usage of “rulez” in Hungarian youth slang, see:

      -http://www.gyakorikerdesek.hu/egyeb-kerdesek__egyeb-kerdesek__61585-mit-jelent-a-rulez-szo-minek-a-roviditese

      • Bart de Clercq

        Hungarians are provincial paysans au moyen age. The only good things to come out of Hungary in the last 10 years are Speak the Hungarian Rapper (funny hip hop) and Barbara Palvin (the most beautiful girl in the world). Barbara, if you read this – I beg you, marry me!!

        • Leto. مؤدّب

          The French are (literally) stinking and priggish idiots savants qui mangent des choses dégoutantes. There’s no good thing which came out of France in the last 100 years.

        • Magyar

          Its because of your mocskos country giving away our territory, which ruined everything for us, you filthy frog eating rat.

          I hope Hollande fkcs up your country real bad, and makes France 50% muslim immigrants and 50% French.

          • Bart de Clercq

            It’s actually funny that you are insulting the French. I’m Belgian, so I could not care less. And what you gonna do about it? Boycott Belgian beers and chocolates? Things you probably can’t pay for anyhow with your lousy Hungarian salaries (believe me: Inbev’s Leffe/Hoegaerden and the cheap Belgian pralines you find at Spar or Tesco are not exactly the brands/products we want to be associated with.

          • Leto. مؤدّب

            Your name sounded French and the French are not too popular in Hungary. So you’re Belgian. Well, you cannot even be insulted, you’re so uncharacteristic. It’s the dullest country one can think of. The only thing which comes to my mind about you, Belgians when you killed about 20 million people before WWI in Belgian Congo. The cut off hands of the natives served as a currency.

          • Bart de Clercq

            Leto, you are really the exponent of Hungary… you’re living in the past and you have all your information wrong. (Congo was not owned by the Belgians, but by Leopold II, who was the founder and sole owner of the Congo > en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_Free_State#Lack_of_recognition_and_use_of_the_word_.22genocide.22)
            I guess you are frustrated because the whole world knows that Hungarians are lazy losers. With the same population, Belgium (383 billion $) has the double GDP of Hungary (190 billion $). Instead of wasting your time posting bullshit on websites and forums, you would better get your ass moving and do something to save Orban’s ass by helping to get the economy back on track.

          • Leto. مؤدّب

            Oh, I thought Leopold II, the king of Belgium was Belgian… and what nationality were those soldiers who committed that huge massacre? The ones who cut off people’s hand in return of money?

            Okay, I know there are no Belgians in fact. There are only Flemish and Walloons in this double-decker joke country named Belgium who’d really love to cut each other’s throats. However, for the time being at least, that double GDP of Hungary (among others stemming from Belgian Congo and the cut-off hands of many black children) has prevented them from doing so.

          • Toby

            Leto = wanker

  • spectator

    “There’s no good thing which came out of France in the last 100 years.”

    - That’s why, because all the good things remained inside France, as opposed to Hungary, dummy, there are just Letos, Orbáns and Szijjártós everywhere – only the garbage, see?

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