July 27th, 2012

Old and nasty: Ghosts from Hungary’s tortured past

Excerpt Via economist.com 

While the far-right swaggers, Jews feel increasingly uneasy. Some leading figures say the atmosphere is the worst they can remember since the collapse of communism. In April a representative of the extremist Jobbik party gave a speech in parliament reviving the medieval blood libel, that Jews use the blood of Christian children. A spate of Holocaust-memorial desecrations and other outrages followed. Pigs’ trotters were placed on a statue of Raoul Wallenberg, a Swedish diplomat who saved thousands of Hungarian Jews. Orthodox Jews say they face gibes on the street. Some Jewish families are considering emigrating.

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  • Daniel

    Boycott Hungary! I guess that Hungarians will get a bit smarter when they have nothing left to eat.

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      You’re J@wish, aren’t you?

      • Viking

        Of course, only “J@wish” people, like Rogan, Pokorni (just to mention two Fidesz Vice Presidents), can make such statements…

  • Leto. مؤدّب

    “While the far-right swaggers, Jews feel increasingly uneasy.”

    Yawn. It’s really “uborkaszezon” (“cucumber season”, that is when newspapers have little to write about and then they publish garbage, usually something recycled.)

  • Daniel 2

    If I am so what? Do you have a problem with it? You schmuck

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      Thanks for the answer, it’s good to know. Yeah, I’ve got a problem with your posts, J@w. But never mind.

  • olga

    @ Leto

    Do you have a problem with his posting because of his religion or because he wrote a viscous comment?

    Do you have a problem with “get real” because he is Romanian or because he is a crude racist lying jerk? (here goes that ad hominem again)

    • Magyar

      FYI, Being J@wish is not about the religion, there are atheist J@ws out there, even some Christian J@ws. J@ws are a race.

      And “get real” is a typical mocskos oláh cigány.

    • spectator

      Olga, (dear), I think, you should see by now who is who.

      As we all learned from Mr.Orban quite recently we are a “half-Asian” bunch (I keep wondering ever since, what happened with the Sanskrit heritage..)

      Beside this – there are civilized European open minded people in Hungary and there are quite a lot with a certain way limited mindset which concentrated around the Orbanist world-view.

      If you count in Mr.Orban’s another little expression about “If God helps, we may even avoid the need to find some other form instead of DEMOCRACY…!”- you only can go down to your knee’s and pray.

      Me too! (Try to figure out to whom, but anyway)

      Happy Name’s Day, btw!

      • Leto. مؤدّب

        Ah, so you don’t agree with Mr. Orbán in that the best thing would be if economic survival didn’t make neccessary to introduce other political systems other than democracy.
        I wonder what you would you prefer instead of democracy? Kádárist style “people’s democracy” or more hard line Stalinism?

        Quote from Orbán: “Reméljük a Jóisten megsegít bennünket, hogy a demokrácia helyett nem kell kigondolnunk más típusú politikai rendszereket, amelyeket a gazdasági túlélés érdekében aztán be kelljen vezetni.”

      • justasking

        @spec,

        ‘As we all learned from Mr.Orban quite recently we are a “half-Asian” bunch’

        Aah, that would explain why I love Dim-Sum so much!!!
        ——–

        ‘you only can go down to your knee’s and pray.

        Me too! (Try to figure out to whom, but anyway)’

        Ralph…on the big white telephone?

      • Leto. مؤدّب

        “I keep wondering ever since, what happened with the Sanskrit heritage.”

        FYI, Mr. Orbán probably accepts what the Hungarian Academy of Sciences says about the origin of Hungarians.
        Anyway, last time I checked even India was in Asia. And before you ask, that goes for the Sumerians, too.

      • spectator

        ” I wonder what you would you prefer instead of democracy?”

        Leto, your tactic didn’t worked: I prefer democracy to Mr.Orban at any circumstances.

        Talking rubbish in public doesn’t help, neither him, nor the country. The good news is that your love unchanged – at least someone keep hanging on.
        Congratulation!

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      @olga:

      I’ve got a problem with his posting because of what he wrote about us, Hungarians and what it shows, what it stands for. His background does matter because it puts his stance in a perspective. Ah, where do you know that from that he’s Rumanian?

      • Leto. مؤدّب

        Uh, I’m sorry, I misread since you meant \get real\ in your last question. As far as he is concerned, yes, his being Rumanian also puts his posts in perpective. He’s a particular type of Rumanian. According to seinan they represent about 10% of the Rumanian political scene.

  • Tordai

    I have a question. Did this ‘spate of Holocaust-memorial desecrations’ that economist.com mention, happen after the desecration of the new Horthy Miklos statue in Kereki?

  • Daniel 3

    Leto you twerp, you assumed that I am jewish how wrong you are… I am 100pct pure Hungarian. I have as much right to my beliefs as you do and expect my government to represent all Hungarians not just Fidesz Hungarians

    • justasking

      @Daniel,

      ‘you assumed that I am j*wish how wrong you are… I am 100pct pure Hungarian…’

      And what exactly makes a person 100% Hungarian pray tell?

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      @szarházi büdöskomcsi féreg:

      Quote 1: “Boycott Hungary! I guess that Hungarians will get a bit smarter when they have nothing left to eat.”

      Quote 2: “I am 100pct pure Hungarian.”

      My comment: Of course, you are, you stinking shit. Why on Earth did I think you’re not a hundred percent pure Hungarian*?

      *whatever that means

  • olga

    @ Leto

    re: He’s a particular type of Rumanian. According to seinan they represent about 10% of the Rumanian political scene.\

    Let’s hope Daniel and \get real\ represent no more than 10 percent of their \own\ and as far as JOBBIK is concerned 10 percent of them representing Hungarians is 9 percent too much.

    • Magyar

      Olga please shut up, liberal piece of szar.
      Don’t ever step a foot in Hungary.

      Jobbik all the way.

      • justasking

        @Magyar,

        ‘Olga please shut up, liberal piece of szar. Don’t ever step a foot in Hungary”

        Or what shit for brains?

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      @olga:

      The very same thing could be and should said about MSZP, too.

  • get real

    Sorry guys I missed this out!:)

    Once Olgica ,the bitch, bite my ass, I couldn’t stay away from this interesting thread!

    I have to start with the statement that, you indeed, are half Asian! That’s true, the other half is gypsies also from Asia! So this is cleared, both races are migratory birds!

    Loto bacsi, like me are 90% in Transylvania b/c we learn what the occupiers are capable to do from the time you
    steal our land!!

    I can’t wait for tomorrow when the referendum will put away Basescu who did the alliance with the Huns aka RMDSZ!

    In Romania nobody can’t swallow the Huns, so if Ponta wins, you can kiss good bye not only for the autonomy which is SF anyway) but also to Sekekyfold b/c is not recognized by him!

    I big help for Ponta came from your beloved Orban who endorsed Basecu!

    That was the red flag that determined the undecided to participate at the referendum against Basecu!

    So, thank you guys for your help!

    I told you, you are stupid and nobody can fix you!

    VIVA TRIANON!

    • trollolah

      Olga is a nice woman…you should be ashamed of yourself, for calling her a bad word… Have you no decency???

      • justasking

        @trollolah,

        ‘Have you no decency???’

        He’s an f’n lunatic…what do you think?

        • Anonymous

          Many would say the same thing about someone like yourself who denies that Horthy Miklos was a dictator and antisemite. Not to mention your defense of his alliance with Adolf Hitler.

          • Magyar

            There were elections during Horthy’s reign, idiot!
            And Horthy’s alliance with Hitler was always very tense, and they had many disagreements.

  • get real

    http://www.ziare.com/europa/ungaria/tokes-in-romania-fortele-post-comuniste-pseudo-liberale-ajung-la-putere-1181266

    I’m sure there are bozgors who speak Romanian so

    they can translate for you!

    See how Tokes can help the referendum!

    thank you again!

    • trollolah

      Cu placenta, tell us what article says. No one here knows your neo-latin language.

  • get real

    Please read the comments TOO!

    Viva TRIANON!

  • get real

    that’s true:

    “There were elections during Horthy’s reign, idiot!
    And Horthy’s alliance with Hitler was always very tense, and they had many disagreements.”

    They disagreed which Hitler’s butt Horthy must to kiss first, the left one or the other one!!!
    Poor Horthy was a little mosquito on a white horse!

    VIVA TRIANON!

    • trollolah

      How could Horthy kiss ass of Hitler? Antonescu’s head was always down there, and there was no more room for face!

  • get real

    trollika , let’s share this one, each of them a butt!

    how about that?

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