July 27th, 2012

Quotable: János Áder on European values and Hungary

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“The ability to cooperate is a European value that can yield many important results also in Hungary.”

Hungarian President János Áder at the opening of an EU-financed pharmaceutical plant earlier this week in Debrecen. [hirado.hu]
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  • Magyar

    So deep. This quote touched my very soul, the way he expressed it caresses my eyes. Áder should write a book.

  • Pipo

    Never trust a guy who looks 86% like Hitler, thinks like a buffoon and speeches like a schmuck.

    • Magyar

      So basically ‘Never trust a Fidesz politician’?

    • spectator

      - Too long mustache?
      Just wait and see: it’ll get shorter with time…!

  • Paul

    The European Court of Justice (ECJ) has posted on its website its order to discuss in an….. accelerated ……procedure Hungary’s dispute with the European Commission about its law that would send judges into retirement at the across-board pension age of 62.
    Now these ARE EU values. Makes János Áder look very stupid.

  • Magyar

    There is a difference between European values, and EU values.

    To give you an idea,
    János Hunyadi was a protector of European Values.
    János Áder is a protector of EU values.

    Thanks!

    • Paul

      @ Magyar
      There is a difference between European values, and EU values…….yep….but none are Fidesz values. Never confuse them.

    • spectator

      “János Hunyadi was a protector of European Values.”

      So right!

      - And was called originally Sibinjanin Janko.
      So, what else could this be, that an early manifestation of the trans-European values, what called today EU???

      • Magyar

        LOL
        Romanians claim that he was Romanian, Serbs claim that he was Serb, but he was actually Half Hungarian half Cuman, but he was Hungarian at heart.

        Only loser chauvinists claim otherwise.

        • spectator

          “Only loser chauvinists claim otherwise.”

          I agree, 100%!
          In my reading it means, that Hungarians are who feels Hungarian by hart!
          So, whatever the original nationality, if someone feels and acts like Hungarian, he/she must be Hungarian – that’s the way it is!
          Anyway, in the middle of the Carpathian Basin selecting the “only pure Hungarians” is rather illusion.

          That’s why I pointed to European Values – the only way to go, because we are one of the most experienced people to integrate multicultural values – just look at our history.

          So, hail to Sibinjanin Janko and/or John Hunyady, because he was a great Hungarian, wherever he came from!

          • spectator

            by hart! – by heart! – what else..!

        • Anonymous

          Well, Hungarians like you should be experts on chauvinism. Your culture exemplifies.

          • Magyar

            We Hungarians are not chauvinists! What are you talking about?

            At not point in our history will you find chauvinism!!!

  • Paul

    @ Magyar
    Within the Eu…we prefer freedom of speech, independent judiciary, no corruption, independent central bank, no discrimination concerning race and sexual preferences!
    UNLIKE fidesz

    • Magyar

      Hungary does not want EU values.
      We don’t want gays, muslims, arabs, africans swarming into our lands.
      We already have Walllachian Gypsies and Tóths occupying our sacred land.

      If you really care that much, why don’t you open your doors and allow all the gays and gypsies from Hungary to live with you? That way you can sleep nicely at night knowing that they aren’t being discriminated by evil Zsidesz.

      Sheesh.. if people think Fidesz is “fascist”, wait until Jobbik takes over, that’s when Hungary will truly be the beacon of the EU ;) LOL

  • Magyar

    EU values = moral and cultural degeneracy.

    • spectator

      “EU values = moral and cultural degeneracy.”

      - Degeneracy from what and by which definition, if I may ask? As by itself it would mean that once there had been something better – so, what was it?

      Eagerly wait for your answer – want to know what I have missing, you see..
      Thanks in advance!

      • Magyar

        Look at our history, everything pre 1945 was better than what we have today.

        • Viking

          Mohacs August 29, 1526 comes to mind…
          A real improvement, then the Ottoman victory led to the partition of Hungary for several centuries between the Ottoman Empire, the Habsburg Monarchy, and the Principality of Transylvania. The death of Louis II as he fled the battle marked the end of the Jagiellon dynasty in Hungary and Bohemia, whose dynastic claims were absorbed by the Habsburgs via the marriage of Louis’ sister

          Hungary/Habsburg – what is the difference?
          Not that ‘nationalists’ like ‘magyar’ would ever give you a consequent and logic answer

  • Leto. مؤدّب

    Here goes a much better quotable. It’s spreading nicely on the net. :)

    “Brussels wastes weeks defining the size of chicken cages, forcing farmers to put toys in pigsties, worrying that the peace of a goose’s soul is an important European issue while hundreds of thousands of citizens lose their jobs, watch their financial system collapse and feel it is getting harder and harder to survive”

    -http://www.poland.us/wiadomosc,7,307324,hungarian-pm-blames-eu-for-economic-crisis.html

    • Magyar

      Leto I don’t understand you.
      In most of your posts you sound like a Jobbik supporter, but you vote Fidesz.

      Do you have schizophrenia or something?
      Or maybe you are a masochist, and the though of Hungary suffering under Fidesz excites you?

      • Leto. مؤدّب

        Do I really sound like a “Jobbik supporter”? :D I doubt it very much. Even if that was so indeed then that’s a very regrettable false impression indeed. I regard Jobbik similarly harmful to Hungary and the Hungarian nation as MSZP and its circles.

        • Magyar

          Yes you do, the stuff you say can be easily heard at local Jobbik meetings :D

          In what way is Jobbik harmful?

          The only thing Jobbik is harmful are corrupt neo-communists that go by the name of Fidesz or MSZP.

          • Magyar

            The only thing jobbik is harmful to*

            And Jobbik is the best thing for Hungary.
            Just as Horthy came after the reign of communism, Jobbik will come after the reign of Fidesz and MSZP.

  • Paul

    And Jobbik is the best thing for Hungary….LOL

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      LOL indeed. Jobbik mostly consist of ” incompetent, unworthy, mostly big-mouthed elements”. (Admiral Horthy characterized this kind of far-right with these very words.)
      It’s hilarious, for example, that that’s a party issue in Jobbik that one of their incompetent, unworthy, big-mouthed leaders had a J@wish grandparent. :D :D :D

      • Magyar

        The guy with the Jewish ancestry (Csanád Szegedi) resigned from Jobbik yesterday, it is now a Jew free party.
        I liked him though, he did a lot of good things, far more than Orbán could do in his lifetime.

        ” incompetent, unworthy, mostly big-mouthed elements” was not referring to the far right, but simply untrained lawyers, bankers and others who were supposed to take over the Jews jobs.

        ” incompetent, unworthy, mostly big-mouthed elements” however suits Fidesz very well.
        I would also add in “two faced, lying piece of szar” just because of Orbán.

        Hungary is in deep szar, does that make Fidesz or MSZP competent?

        Jobbik wiped out crime in Gyöngyöspata and other villages they run, even though Fidesz desperately tried to stop it.

        You are full of sh*t Leto, and don’t have a clue about what you are talking about.

        Jobbik is the answer to all of our problems, Fidesz are just clowns.

        I hope WHEN Jobbik comes to power, they will make Fidesz and MSZP illegal, and put their leaders in prison for crimes like theft, lying, murders(eg Kata Bándy), and many other things.

        And FYI, during the Horthy times, the far right was anything BUT incompetent (check out Gömbös Gyula, what a guy, I wish he was here today to help us)

        • Magyar

          The guy with the J@wish ancestry (Csanád Szegedi) resigned from Jobbik yesterday, it is now a J@w free party.
          I liked him though, he did a lot of good things, far more than Orbán could do in his lifetime.

          ” incompetent, unworthy, mostly big-mouthed elements” was not referring to the far right, but simply untrained lawyers, bankers and others who were supposed to take over the J@ws jobs.

          ” incompetent, unworthy, mostly big-mouthed elements” however suits Fidesz very well.
          I would also add in “two faced, lying piece of szar” just because of Orbán.

          Hungary is in deep szar, does that make Fidesz or MSZP competent?

          Jobbik wiped out crime in Gyöngyöspata and other villages they run, even though Fidesz desperately tried to stop it.

          You are full of sh*t Leto, and don’t have a clue about what you are talking about.

          Jobbik is the answer to all of our problems, Fidesz are just clowns.

          I hope WHEN Jobbik comes to power, they will make Fidesz and MSZP illegal, and put their leaders in prison for crimes like theft, lying, murders(eg Kata Bándy), and many other things.

          And FYI, during the Horthy times, the far right was anything BUT incompetent (check out Gömbös Gyula, what a guy, I wish he was here today to help us)

          • Leto. مؤدّب

            ” it is now a J@w free party.”

            Vow, idiots, now start looking for J@ws among the pickle jars. :D

          • Leto. مؤدّب

            Yeah, your loser Jobbik lot is a piece of szar indeed. Incompetent, unworthy, mostly big-mouthed elements like Admiral Horthy said.

          • Magyar

            Unbelievable.
            Horthy was not talking about the far Right, he was a fan of them.

            Heck even MSZP was more competent than Fidesz, things were a lot better a few years back.
            Hungary has currently hit a big low, and the only person we can thank is Mr Orbán.

            Are you really that dumb? Do you really believe Fidesz is going to help anything? One Orbán has enough to buy himself a house in the Caribbic and a helicopter to get him there, he will resign and leave Hungary in a bigger szar than it was when he started it.

            Fidesz= MSZP = Zsidesz
            They are practically the same, they have different methods, but the result is the same, which is not result whatsoever :D

          • Leto. مؤدّب

            You pathetic loser, Admiral Horthy despised the far right and he would despise today’s Jobbik, too.

          • Leto. مؤدّب

            ” things were a lot better a few years back.”

            Sure, they were. :D Now I’m positive you used to be a MSZP voter. A big part of the suddenly swollen Jobbik voter base did come from MSZP.

          • Magyar

            Never voted for MSZP :)
            Never ever ever.

            Try MIÉP, and then Jobbik.

            What about you? MSZP voter until Fidesz offered more money to advertise their party on this website?

          • Viking

            Magyar says:
            July 29, 2012 at 9:36 pm

            Never voted for MSZP :)
            Never ever ever.

            Try MIÉP, and then Jobbik.
            —

            And before that MDF we assume, then MIEP was founded by high-ranking MDF-members

            ‘leto’ was also in MDF until 1995, when Fidesz offered her better

      • Paul

        @ leto

        I agree!
        I hope WHEN Jobbik comes to power, they will make Fidesz and MSZP illegal,

        insane!

        • Leto. مؤدّب

          “WHEN Jobbik comes to power”

          That’ll be when pigs will fly. :D

          • Magyar

            When Fidesz or MSZP makes an improvement to Hungary, that will be the day when pigs fly.

            Jobbik victory is unlikely (or not as likely as Fidesz victory), but its not impossible, and you know that very well. They are not THAT far behind.

            There is still plenty of room for Fidesz to screw up, another 2006 maybe?

            And anyway, who says that votes are the only way?

            Off course Admiral Horthy hated the far right, which is why he helped Gyula Gömbös dissolve the parliament.
            And we all know Horthy was a leftie, just like Orbán ;)

            And I wouldn’t say Jobbik is far right, they are pro democracy, but are simply patriotic. I wished they were a bit more extreme, but life is a compromise.

  • get real

    Now I understand why you are pissing againts the wind!

    This “genius” called Orban, is nothing more than revisionist moron who want to dismantle the EU !!!

    The Lenin of revisionism, Orban, want to convince people that the EU is the root of everything bad and we have to fight this !!

    Here it’s a proposal:

    take your horses , pack and go back in Asia!

    Your place is not in EU!

    VIVA TRIANON!

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      Thank Mr. Orbán that he helped to maintain some elements of democracy in Rumania. President Basescu will stay in office, the turnout will be under 30% on today’s referendum. It’s 7% in Székelyföld.

      • DoubleH63

        @Leto

        “Thank Mr. Orbán that he helped to maintain some elements of democracy in Rumania.”

        And also thank him to maintain the Anti-Hungarian statu quo in Erdély. [I think Horthy would have had these kind of fuckers chased down by the Királyi Csendőrség.]

        • Magyar

          Hungary should become a Kingdom again (monarch is the Szent Korona), and the Magyar Gárda should be transformed into the Királyi Csendőrség.

  • DoubleH63

    @Leto

    Vergődsz, baszd meg, vergődsz?

    The question is what Horthy would think of Zsidesz [Orbán licking some Anti-Hungarian bocskoros ass, while Áder licking some J*w ass.]

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      Te és a szaros jobbikos bandád vergődik, b… meg. Igazi alja söpredékek vagytok.

      • DoubleH63

        @Leto

        “Te és a szaros jobbikos bandád vergődik, b… meg. Igazi alja söpredékek vagytok.”

        Is the fuse blown? (Sounds way better – and more meaningful in Hungarian.)

        Good.

        The stupid Westerners on this site have no clue when they accuse Orbán and his ‘hazaáruló’ gang with too much nationalism. He is nothing else than a EU lapdog and servant of J*wish and American (one of the same unfortunately) interests; who is started out from a protected status of his daddy.

  • DoubleH63

    @Leto “Jobbik voter base did come from MSZP”

    Right, stupid.
    But let’s look at where Zsidesz leadership and voters are from, shall we.

  • get real

    I can’t believe:

    Mohacs August 29, 1526 comes to mind…
    A real improvement, then the Ottoman victory led to the partition of Hungary for several centuries between the Ottoman Empire, the Habsburg Monarchy, and the Principality of Transylvania.

    So ,what a fuck szent korona you are tallking about?

    You were slaves for centuries for the Turkish and Austrians and now you are “razatok a rongyot”?

    You were begging the Independence from Vienna but they took you like a “kiss Miska”!!!

    Talking about the Maghyars in Romania, here is how this jerk minority is playing its morality card:

    After the coalition btw the RMDSZ and the Democratic liberal party failed apart, the Huns went with the new coalition the USL to impeach Basescu!!

    After they noticed that Ponta will give them hard time they went back to support Basescu!

    the orban intervention cost basescu 1 mill votes for NO!

    BECAUSE THE ROMANIANS CAN’T STAND THE HUNS!

    The combine % of voters in Harghita and Covasna was 30%

    b/c on those counties are living Romanians ALSO!

    All of those Romanians went to vote just to bring somebody to stop the revisionist Maghyar jerks and to don’t have to speak Hungarian in their own country!

    You live with that fairytale of “szent korona” just to get high!

    Next morning you will notice that your best friend just hang himself to escape from the Hungarian Heaven and
    be a statistic!

    VIVA TRIANON!

    • trollolah

      Actual ethnic Romanians are living in Hargita and Kovászna? Is this another ‘get real’ lie, like “I be nice during Olimpic Games”?

      Maybe ethnic Romanians in Székelyföld should consider moving! I hear Muntenia is delightful in summer, when heat and dust are at greatest level.

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      now you are “razatok a rongyot”?

      What a nice slip of the tongue…
      So do you know such highly idiomatic phrases? It’ll turn out in the end you speak a remarkable amount of Hungarian… Well done, you’ve made some headway to civilization. :D

  • get real

    WHATEVER!
    VIVA TRIANON!

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