August 6th, 2012

Jobbik lawmaker Csanád Szegedi meets rabbi after discovering Jewish roots

Excerpt Via blogs.wsj.com 

His parliamentary status notwithstanding, Mr. Szegedi appears to have befriended his “controversial” heritage. The ex-Jobbik vice-president has met Hungary’s chief orthodox rabbi and promised to visit Auschwitz, where his grand mother had been held by Nazi soldiers.

“Had I made any comments in the past years that offended the Jewish community, I ask for forgiveness,” Mr. Szegedi told Rabbi Slomo Koves, according to Nepszabadsag. “Now that I have been faced with my Jewish roots, that I do not regret at all, keeping in touch with the leaders of the Hungarian Jewish community has become especially important for me,” he said.

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  • Magyar

    His full name is :
    Csanád Júdás Zsigedi (Western Name order)

    He is a little treacherous rat, his 25% non-Magyar side REALLY shines.

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      I bet you worshipped Mr. Szegedi about, say, two weeks ago. :D

      • Magyar

        Actually, I was never really that fond of him, he always seemed dodgy, especially the whole ordeal in Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén county.

        There were times when he seemed ok though.

        I need to learn to trust my J@wdar a bit more though

        But in fact, when I learned of his ethnicity, I told myself “its only 25%, in his heart he feels like a Hungarian, I will turn a blind eye to it”

        But boy was a wrong.
        Remember Leto, a J@w is a J@w is a J@w.
        A J@w will always help another J@w, they stick together.
        Now Zsigedi will help Slomó Köves in the “battle” against Jobbik.

        Its one of the things I respect J@ws for, the way they stick together, always help each other, and preserve their culture.

        I wish we Hungarians were more like that, nowadays its pretty much every man for himself.

        • Leto. مؤدّب

          “Actually, I was never really that fond of him”

          Oh, of course. :D You’re exactly that kind of disgusting far-right scum Admiral Horthy despised so much.

          • Magyar

            If Admiral Horthy was here he would despise sell outs like you.

            There is nothing more disgusting than capitalist opportunists internationalists who cover themselves in a fake cloak of patriotism (I am talking about Zsidesz).

            Zsidesz lies by day, and Zsidesz lies by night, you are just too far up Orbán’s ass to see or hear it.

            And I am sure Admiral Horthy disliked the right, we all know he was more of a far left kind of guy :D

          • Magyar

            And if you think Jobbik is “far right” then you are dumber than I thought.
            They are simply against Globalism and Internationalism, something which your kind of scum simply love :D

            They are also pro law and order, regardless of race.
            Its Zsidesz who allow gypsy criminals roam the countryside which discourages people farming for themselves, thus having to rely on Globalist supermarkets.

            You are traitor worse than Zsigedi, and don’t you even dare utter Horthy’s name in your mocskos mouth.
            And are you implying that Zsidesz is the descendant of Horthy or something???!

        • Ben Katon

          Which is why we will last forever, and your kind will disappear from the planet. (:

          • …justasking

            @Ben,

            ‘Which is why we will last forever, and your kind will disappear from the planet’

            Oh, I doubt that…besides, nothing lasts forever.

  • wolfi

    Now this is really funny – leto and Magyar slugging it out …

    What’s the main difference between them ?

    One loves H*tler more than Horthy …

    • Magyar

      “One loves H*tler more than Horthy …”
      I assume you are talking about me, and I must tell you that that is simply not true.

      I dislike Hitler for many reasons (if you are interested, then just ask)

      I have already said that I hated the Arrow Cross, and I prefer the traditionalist beliefs of Horthy.

      But then you have assholes like Leto shitting on Horthy’s name by associating Horthy with Fidesz?
      How does that scumbag even dare to imply that Orbán is the new Horthy??!

    • Leto. مؤدّب

      Piss off, unwelcome alcoholic foreign idiot, you Stasi filth.

      • Magyar

        Now now Leto, I am sure Admiral Horthy wouldn’t appreciate such language :D

        • Leto. مؤدّب

          That’s right, he wouldn’t. Along with the “unworthy, big-mouthed elements” like you.

          • Magyar

            You still think that quote was aimed at the right wing? :D :D

          • Magyar

            I am sure Horthy wouldn’t appreciate people who have their heads shoved up Globalist asses :D ( I am talking about the likes of you)

            You are a traitor to Hungary.
            Horthy tried to defend against the USSR, while Fidesz lickes the EUSSR’s asshole.

            Zsidesz are far bigger sellouts than the Arrow Cross ever was, our president Visits Israel pretty much every single week.

          • Leto. مؤدّب

            He meant it exactly for your kind. I’m not saying it would apply to each and every Jobbik-supporter, of course. But it fits you personally very well.

          • Magyar

            You idiot.

            “Since, however, one of the most important tasks of the government is to raise the standard of living, i.e., we have to acquire wealth, it is impossible, in a year or two, to replace the Jews, who have everything in their hands, and to replace them with incompetent, unworthy, mostly big-mouthed elements, for we should become bankrupt.”

            He was talking about accountants, lawyers, bankers.
            In those days if all the Jews dissapeared from Hungary, we would have very little accountants, bookkeepers, bankers, lawyers and the likes.
            Its nothing to do with the far right, only a moron like you can take Horthy’s quote WAYYY out of context.

            Your head is simply so far up Orbán’s ass you cannot see or hear reality.

    • Pete H.

      This is really hilarious to watch.

      And if Csúnya Magyar says he doesn’t like Hitler or Szálasi then he is in denial. Because his value system is firmly rooted in that type of hate.

  • andy

    Muhehehehe.. that is great. Jobbik morons party should really make som kind of rality show: Like: “Back to the roots”. On first part, Szegedi will have circumcision, of course online broadcasted, with hi confession about .. how he likes Jews, Slovaks.. etc. And another part .. mr. Zazrivec will discover his Slavic roots as well.. :) :):):) Jobbik …. funniest group in Europe.

    • Magyar

      The family’s name was originally Vona but Gábor’s grandfather, also called Gábor, died in World War II in Russia and his grandmother got married to a Zázrivecz who adopted Gábor’s father. So he took back his rightful name.

      And even if he did have Slavic ancestry, so what?
      I myself have some distant “Slovak” ancestry, it wouldn’t surprise me if most Hungarians had a Slavic, German or Vlach great grandparent or something given the multicultural nature of Kingdom of Hungary.

  • Viking

    Magyar says:
    August 6, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    I myself have some distant “Slovak” ancestry, it wouldn’t surprise me if most Hungarians had a Slavic, German or Vlach great grandparent or something given the multicultural nature of Kingdom of Hungary.
    —-

    Written by the same nut-case, who just claimed that ‘Hungarians/Magyars’ are ‘indigenous people’

    -http://www.politics.hu/20120806/minister-condemns-racism-but-says-its-sinful-to-falsely-label-people-as-racist/#comment-116147

    Logic has never been ‘magyar’s’ strong side
    Coming thinking about it, *what* is his strong side?

    Maybe “Jobbik” should define what ‘A Real Tiszta Magyar’, *really* is, given the cross-breeding taken place the last 2.000 in the Carpathian Basin

    • Magyar

      Theres a lot of evidence to suggest Hungarians being native to the Carpathian Basin.
      And its true, we mixed a bit, but so did every other country.

      • Viking

        Magyar says:
        August 7, 2012 at 2:41 am

        Theres a lot of evidence to suggest Hungarians being native to the Carpathian Basin
        —

        No, there are no such *evidence*, then no one knows what type of people lived in the Carpathian Basin a few thousand years ago. To believe they would have survived as an homogeneous group, sending out a big part of them to roam Central Asia for a few thousand years, and then come back, is as funny as that Swedish Professor who claimed in the end of the 1700s that Atlantis had been situated in the Baltic Sea outside Upsala (as it was spelled at that time)

        Every ruler in Europe at that time needed a story like that, Führer Vona has his

        The theory that ‘Magyar’ would have survived in two parts separated by a big distance for thousands of years and then to re-unite and actually understand each other and have a similar culture, even if one was nomadic and the other one was a farmer…yes, a nice fairytale, but it is only that

        Just compare with the Etruscan (who died out), the Basques and the Saame – they all *probably* have the same heritage. Here in the Carpathian Basin, 45.000 years ago
        About 40.000 years before these pre-historic ‘Magyars’ enters the Carpathian Basin *as immigrants*
        A Basque and Saame cannot speak with each other using any of their old languages, so why would the Magyars be the only one in the world doing that?

        • Magyar

          Since its so late here, and I cant be bothered to give you a big reply, I will keep it short(full reply tomorrow)

          Just look up the Uyhgurs, the other ‘Magyars’, that is one theory.

          • Viking

            Magyar says:
            August 7, 2012 at 3:04 am

            Just look up the Uyhgurs, the other ‘Magyars’, that is one theory
            —

            If you want to connect the Uyhgurs, whose origin is disputed and for which the label has changed several times the last few hundred years, you should really be anti-Chinese, then the Uyhgurs, Muslims as they are, are very much prosecuted in today’s Communist China, where 80% of them live

            To make statements one day that Hungary’s future lies in co-operating with Communist China and then the next day refer to Uyhgurs as ‘blood brothers’ just shows how much you care for ‘Next Of Kin’…

          • Magyar

            We could work with China to give them more rights, its worth a try.

            And show me where I said “Hungary’s future lies in co-operating with Communist China”
            I said opening up to the East, there are more countries then than China.

          • Viking

            Magyar says:
            August 7, 2012 at 2:05 pm

            I said opening up to the East, there are more countries then than China
            —

            You stated financial and military co-operation, so pls with which countries in the East?
            * Georgia and Aszerbadjan?

            For others, this article by renowned Hungarian contemporary historian Krisztián Ungváry gives the background to all this
            “Turanism: the ‘new’ ideology of the far right”
            which is ‘magyars’s’ thing nowadays, when not busy j*w-bashing

            -http://www.budapesttimes.hu/2012/02/05/turanism-the-new-ideology-of-the-far-right/

  • IH

    That is too funny!!!

  • Andy

    Yes, that is true. But that is point, in such small space – in Central Europe, there is no pure magyars… everybody is mixed a bit with everybody (well I just wondering, how much \leftovers\ hold magyars from Osman invaders in their DNA). It is just nazi Jobbik ..who trying to play so silly games about pure hungarian rase… hahaha.. Sick, nazi morons.. Of course Zazrivec has Slavic roots, and once, he will find his way home. Same …as jew Csandad.

    • Magyar

      The family’s name was originally Vona but Gábor’s grandfather, also called Gábor, died in World War II in Russia and his grandmother got married to a Zázrivecz who adopted Gábor’s father. So he took back his rightful name.

  • Fidel

    You’re just so fuuuckin boooooring!!!

  • Neverland
  • DM

    You may want to read an article on the subject that is a little more reflective: http://drmandler.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/already-csanad-szegedi-goes-to-the-rabbi/

  • Liz Aucoin

    It is impossible to agree or even listen to this stupidity. Insulting each other with racial slurs is truly disgusting and quite pathetic really. Continue to argue about who is the racist or the Jew. Craziness! How are you to convince anyone you are not a neanderthal?

    • spectator

      “How are you to convince anyone you are not a neanderthal?”

      It’s easy!
      According to these re-inventors of History, the Hungarians already populated the Carpathian Basin already a good 350 000 years ago, so, if you just take look at these present day specimens, you’ll see, that they have changed precious little since, keeping the traditions alive, you see.
      Otherwise they called “Homo erectus seu sapiens paleohungaricus”, somewhere between Homo erectus and Homo sapiens.

      Further reading here:
      h**p://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samu_(Homo_erectus)

  • This ‘n That

    Meeting to indocrinate and provide marching orders. Common sense says – Seize-gelt is not to be trusted going forward in making objective political decisions for the good on Hungary and its people.

  • Jimbo

    “Theres a lot of evidence to suggest Hungarians being native to the Carpathian Basin.”

    Zero. All humans came from Africa. Modern Hungarians are virtually identical with the surrounding Slavs (who also came from Africa). The arriving Ugors (On-ogur = “ten Ugor tribes”) were fairly small in number compared to the surrounding and pre-established Slavs.

  • olga

    @ Magyar

    Vona did not take back his “rightful name” – he legally changed his last name to his grand-father’s name because it sounded more Hungarian. Given his position, he needed a Hungarian sounding name and Zazrivec didn’t sound Magyar enough.

    If I wanted to go back to my “rightful name” which would be my maiden name, I’d have to show my birth and marriage certificates and I could change all my documents because I am entitled to that name legally without “changing” anything

    He could have shown his Grand-father’s birth certificate and all the supporting documents until those proverbial cows came home but when his father was adopted, his birth name was legally forfeited. Therefore Gabor had to fill out the same papers than I would have to if I wanted to change my last name to my own maternal Grandfather’s last name or to any other last name in the phone book.

    Amazing that his own father never wanted to change his name back to his birth name although he too would have needed a legal name change, unless Hungarian adoption laws are different than North American laws ; I cannot see that being the case because it would open up a legal nightmare for the rights of birth parents, adoptees including inheritance laws.

    Anyway, what age did Vona decide to change his name, allow me to guess : when he made a decision to go into politics?

    Must be exhausting to be in denial and twist facts 24/7 but fyi there is no Easter Bunny and the vast majority of Hungarians do not support JOBBIK according to the election results and the polls. Wishing it won’t make it happen not to mention you wrote there was trouble in Paradise which means the party is splitting and not all the members are buying into paranoia.

    You use the same logic about JOBBIK as an anti-Hungarian would after visiting a mental health facility in BP and based on his observations, he would come to the conclusion that the majority of Hungarian suffer from mental illness; this website is the “hospital” I had in mind.

  • spectator

    “this website is the “hospital” I had in mind”

    So right, Olga!
    With a very limited admittance, mind you, while quite a lot in a dire need of health care…

  • DoubleH63

    @olga

    “Given his position, he needed a Hungarian sounding name and Zazrivec didn’t sound Magyar enough.”

    Olga (with at least 4 Christen names – a very Hungarian tradition btw), you are just keep reaching for the stars, don’t you (yellow, red, whatever)?
    Blond, can’t be a good description anymore. Let’s go for Dumb, shall we. Just keep posting your hate and you will have the Dumb and Dumber title in no time.
    Maybe if that Gypsy crystal ball of yours spins fast enough, it will give you an answer what fucking position Vona had when he changed his name at the age of 18.

    • Magyar

      Look here:
      -http://genealogy.familyeducation.com/browse/origin/hungarian

      And here:
      -http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g023.htm

      Do you see Vona anywhere?

      According to Olga, Vona pulled it out of a phonebook, such a rare name though.

      If he wanted to pick a typical Hungarian sounding name, there are so many classic Hungarian names he could have chosen.

      I am begining to think Olga is wrong, oh wait, she IS wrong! Maybe her crystal ball made in Ciganystan is not so good after all?

    • Magyar

      Look here:
      –http://genealogy.familyeducation.com/browse/origin/hungarian

      And here:
      -http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g023.htm

      Do you see Vona anywhere?

      According to Olga, Vona pulled it out of a phonebook, such a rare name though.

      If he wanted to pick a typical Hungarian sounding name, there are so many classic Hungarian names he could have chosen.

      I am begining to think Olga is wrong, oh wait, she IS wrong! Maybe her crystal ball made in Gypsystan is not so good after all?

  • olga

    @ Double

    I believe Magyar is naive about the legal hassles concerning changing one’s last name so rather than argue with you, why don’t you just tell everyone on this website what legal right Gabor Vona had to his Grandfather’s name once his own father was legally adopted.

    (a)Do you think he just went to the government office that deals with birth registrations/certificates, explained the circumstances and he was given a new birth certificate under Vona

    or

    (b) His changing his name to Vona required the same legal papers to be signed as if he decided to change his name to Kovacs?

    I didn’t get the crack about my 4 Christian names but coming from you it must be either and Roma or a J*ewish custom. I’d prefer a yellow star to a red star in case you were embroidering a Christmas present for me, in fact it would look good on a navy blue throw cushion

    Since you called me dumb,it would be fair to call you names but I hate to screw up my opportunity for a hand made Christmas gift, I mean Hanukah gift.

  • olga

    @ Double

    I already posted an answer to you on Vona Gabor but it’s in moderation purgatory. However, I forgot to repson to your closing paragraph that was most offensive and insulting about my crystal ball; no need for such nasty behaviour but Crystal is rather vindictive and she pointed out you were wrong about Gabor’s name changing age. She doesn’t speak English so she relied on wiki in Hungarian

    “Apai nagyanyja ezután feleségül ment Zázrivecz Józsefhez, aki nevére vette a felesége gyermekét (Vona Gábor apját), emiatt lett születése után ő maga is Zázrivecz. 1978. augusztus 20-án jött világra a Heves megyei Gyöngyösön. Apja eredeti nevét Vona csak egyetemista korában vette fel, valamikor 2000 után. ”

    I admit my math books were “mainstream publications” but I kind of bought into the belief that if Vona was born in 1978 then he would be older than 18 “sometimes after 2000″

  • DoubleH63

    @olga
    Yes, I rely on Wiki too – and the Enquirer.

    • Curious George

      …to confirm what you read on stormfront.

  • olga

    @ Double

    You rely on wiki? Really? I am not even going to verify this one but the wiki I know about would confirm the “accepted historical version of you know what”

    George must know something I didn’t – Stormfront has its own wiki, – your writing style should make you Editor. Oops, you are the Editor (Crystal ball spoke up) Good job!!

  • Ben Katon

    Which is why we will last forever, and your kind will disappear from the planet. (:

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