August 17th, 2012

Hungary gov’t tones it down in reply to Amnesty International criticism on minority rights

Hungary’s government on Thursday responded to a letter by Amnesty International critical of the authorities’ responses to the intimidation of minorities and ethnic groups, underlining its commitment to “protecting its citizens, regardless of ethnic, cultural or social identity”.

The statement by the Prime Minister’s Office said that the government “does not tolerate any kind of intimidation of minorities and ethnic groups.”

Referring to Amensty’s Wednesday statement on police handling of vigilantes recently operating in the village of Devecser, a village in western Hungary largely populated by Roma, the PM’s Office said “police are using all means available to them to prevent criminal acts – including those committed by vigilantes – and it shall not allow quasi-paramilitary groups to challenge the rule of law.”

Amnesty said in a letter to the government that the Hungarian authorities “must do more to protect the country’s Roma communities.”

“Violence broke out on 5 August, when more than 1,000 people gathered in Devecser’s main square at a demonstration organized by far-right party Jobbik and joined by far-right vigilante groups,” Amnesty said in a statement on its website in connection with its letter to the government.

“According to eyewitnesses some members of the crowd chanted anti-Roma slogans and threw pieces of concrete and other missiles at Roma houses. The police did not act to stop the violence and it is unclear whether any arrests were made,” it added.

The PM’s Office responded in its statement that the government “sees improving the situation of the Roma as a priority both at domestic and European levels. Hungary’s National Strategy for Social Inclusion seeks to offer solutions for all those living in poverty, regardless of their ethnic background. Furthermore, during its EU presidency, the Government of Hungary created the Common European Framework for National Roma Strategies, which offers social inclusion programmes and sustainable solutions for social conflicts.”

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  • Magyar

    Why doesn’t Amnesty International just fuck off and mind it’s own fucking business?

    • Aloof

      Why don’t you just fuck off and mind yours. Don’t you have babies to make or something?

      • Anonymous

        I pity any woman that finds herself unfortunate enough (or desperate) to allow Magyar to impregnate her. Spawn of the devil.

  • Magyar

    Why doesnt Amnesty International comment on this?
    -http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2012/08/about-70-gypsy-criminals-attacked.html

    • Magyar

      Nobody answers?
      What about this event that is happening right now?
      -http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2012/08/live-broadcast-general-mobilization-in.html

    • Viking

      Index.hu has the reports from the Police that paints a slightly different picture

      Anyway, throwing a party is the hallmark of Hungarian anti-Roma forces. They did it in Gyöngöspata (birtday-party) and the aim is to incite violence from the local Roma population, by playing anti-Roma music on high volume, shouting and provoking the neighbourhood

      It worked in Gyöngöspata and will probably work here
      In Hungary it is now a 3-day holiday, with today Monday being a National Holiday widely celebrated, so it can easily escalate, as planned

  • Viking

    The thread on ex-”Jobbik” leader Csanád Szegedi is closed, so this will have to do about the latest on the “Jobbik’s” usage of EU-funds to sponsor anti-EU and anti-Roma propaganda in Hungary

    -http://thecontrarianhungarian.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/csanad-szegedi-hungarian-far-right-politician/#more-2654

    and here Csanád Szegedi is still in the centre of business, by still controlling these funds

    Given that Csanád Szegedi has declared he wants to start an alternative to “Jobbik”, even more right-wing, and his now affection for J*wish things, maybe Csanád Szegedi will be the one that introduces the anti-Muslim strain of right-wing extremism to Hungary?
    Somebody the Hungarian right-leaning J*ws can rally behind, as in France behind Le Pen?
    At least Csanád Szegedi will have backing of the EU…

  • Magyar

    “Given that Csanád Szegedi has declared he wants to start an alternative to “Jobbik”
    Has he actually? Because that BS “contrarianhungarian” article is the first time I heard of Szegedi doing such thing.

    • Viking

      Well, I suppose this very funny clip showing how anti-Novak/Szegedi “Jobbik”-members are disturbing a speech by Novak on April 30th, this year, is new for you also?

      -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScplN6ZFrOo&feature=youtu.be

  • Anonymous

    Dull topic – duller comments – ho hum, yawn, yawn!

  • Magyar

    Here is some truth
    -http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2012/08/jobbik-statement-about-yesterdays-gypsy.html

    read it and weep, especially you, Cigo Viking.

    • Anti-Jobbo

      Sending a mob to deal with the alleged actions of a few members of a community is disgraceful.

      Jobbik is a Nazi organization that is promoting and encouraging vigilantism.

      Hungarian Ambiance is not a legitimate news source and is an outlet for antisemitic, rascist, and homophobic views. Their reporting on the events is biased and unreliable.

      If this type of vigilantism is allowed to continue in Hungary it will end in tragedy for innocent Roma and bring shame to Hungary. For that I weep.

      • Magyar

        Are you really so stupid?

        “Sending a mob to deal with the alleged actions of a few members of a community is disgraceful.”
        70 gypsies armed with swords, scythes and sticks laid a siege on a house full of innocent Hungarians.

        Later those gypsy scumbags run around the town, terrorising everyone.

        HungarianAmbiance only tells things how it is, nothing else.

        “innocent Roma”
        That is a juxtaposition.
        You are either innocent, or a Roma, cant be both.

  • Hunnia

    “Hungarian authorities must do more to protect the country’s Roma communities”

    Protect from what?
    Becoming violent criminals?
    Robbing and stealing?
    Terrorizing neighborhoods?
    Making babies they cannot support?
    Bankrupting our already underfunded welfare system, paid by Hungarian taxpayers they hate so much?

    How far is too far when it comes to “tolerance”?

  • Anti-Jobbo

    “The Fidesz mayor of Cegléd claimed that the “cause” was artificially exaggerated by the extremists so they could have an opportunity to stage another threatening demonstration against the Gypsies. The mayor also revealed that about three weeks ago there was a rumor that he wanted to move forty Roma families into a mixed Roma/non-Roma section of town. He figures that perhaps that rumor sparked consternation among some people in town. Also just last Sunday the town opened a park that is supposed to symbolize “Hungarian-Roma cooperation” and perhaps the cross that was erected there might not be to the liking of the town’s Jobbik contingent. One thing is sure, claimed the mayor: the fact that three Jobbik MPs immediately showed up indicated that Jobbik was behind the whole ugly affair. The mayor was also convinced that the attack on the Cegléd Roma population was timed to coincide with the national holiday.\

    Is the Fidesz Mayor also stupid? Or is it you for believing the Nazi propaganda on Hungarian Ambiance?

    And what will you say when one of these vigilante mobs gets out of hand and innocent Roma children and women are either wounded or killed? Will your rotten immature rascist soul simply say \You are either innocent, or a Roma, cant be both.”

    Get the Nazi’s out of Hungary Fidesz! The world is watching!

    • Leto مؤدّب

      The world watches most when US businessmen, who sponsor left-lib parties in Hungary, “evacuate Roma refugees” in order to discredit the Fidesz government.

      • Viking

        The Fidesz mayor of Cegléd seems not to step the official Fidesz line, which we all should give him credit for

        The Fidesz mayor of Cegléd seems to be interested in protecting *all* inhabitants of his city, especially against bussed-in trouble-makers

        As I pointed out earlier this was a planned provocation from “Jobbik” to steal attention from Fidesz August 20th celebrations, at least the Fidesz mayor of Cegléd understands that
        Sadly that is not the fact with all Fidesz members

      • Anti-Jobbo

        What the world watched was a Nazi mob descend on Gyöngyöspata.

        This is the shame the Hungarian Nazi’s bring on Hungary. When there is so much good to see in Hungary, this is what the world sees when they see Hungary today.

        -http://barikad.hu/sites/barikad.hu/files/2011/03/gyongyospata%2014.jpg

        1944 all over again. Nazi scum out of Hungary!

        • Monica

          Yes…and they look pathetic…so much…”fag”like…
          P.S. not gay…gays are normal.

          • Magyar

            You are so incredibly fucking stupid.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            FYI, the phrase “fag” translates pretty well to “buzi”. :D (And gays are not normal, of course. Homosexuality is a mental disorder.)

          • Monica

            @ Leto “FYI”…visit sexisite.hu next door.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            No, thanks, I myself don’t need it (possibly unlike you). Do feel free to spend your time there instead of here.

        • Leto مؤدّب

          What the world watched was an orchestrated effort by the interested parties (on both sides) to damage the government and Hungary’s image. Luckily it didn’t work too well. Unlike the Zámoly-saga during the first Orbán-government in 2000.

          • Monica

            Works perfect.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            This time only in your wet dreams, postcommie bastard.

  • Magyar

    You say Hungarianambiance is missed, but Red Eva spouting liberal garbage is fine?

    • Anti-Jobbo

      Did or did not the Fidesz mayor say this?

      What about the young and women you spineless Nazi? Are they guilty too?

      • Magyar

        What happens to young gypsies and gypsy women is none of my concern.
        Frankly, I could not care less, since Amnesty International has already taken care of them :) :)

        • Monica

          Morally bankrupt Magyar

          • Magyar

            Not really, if a Hungarian child, or a Hungarian woman was attacked, I would help them.

            But gypsy women and children don’t concern me.
            They are borderline human, so normal morals don’t apply to them.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            @..hole who calls himself “Magyar”:

            Along with “get real’ and some J@wish @..holes regularly appearing on this site, you think provocation like this is funny, don’t you?

            @Erik:

            Please do delete posts like the one at August 21, 2012 at 5:35 pm! They not only degrade your site but they also generate a lot of avoidable noise.

          • Monica

            “They are borderline human “…Morally bankrupt Magyar!!!!!You are a nazi for sure if you say this.A disgrace to humans.A disgrace for Hungary.

          • …justasking

            @Magyar,

            ‘They are borderline human, so normal morals don’t apply to them’

            You know, there’s one thing to say you don’t like this group of people or that; but, to call people ‘boarder-line human’?

            Your post sent chills up my spine.

            I believe if an opportunity presented itself to hurt a member of this community, you’d jump at it.
            —–

            @Erik,

            I’m with Leto on this one…please delete Magyar’s post and if possible, ban him from this site.

          • Magyar

            Look, if Gypsies want my respect, they should stop robbing, raping, Hungarian children and elderly.
            Because thats animal behaviour in my book.

            I know ONE decent Gypsy family, but they are 1%.

            Gypsies have a bad image for a reason, if they act like animals, they will be seen as animals.

            exibit a, animal behaviour
            -http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2011/10/six-gypsies-gang-raped-young-girl-in.html

          • Leto مؤدّب

            @justasking:

            Without introducing user registration, unfortunately it’s not possible to ban this jerk from here.

          • …justasking

            @Magyar,

            ‘Look, if G*psies want my respect’

            You don’t deserve any respect.
            —-
            @Leto,

            ‘Without introducing user registration, unfortunately it’s not possible to ban’

            Really? How the devil can he have any semblance of control it that’s the case?

          • Magyar

            Leto you hypocritical asshole

            You said this
            “(And gays are not normal, of course. Homosexuality is a mental disorder.)”

            You are calling gays, or “fags” (how Monica likes to call them) mentally disabled (I agree off course, but thats not the point), yet now you think you are in a position to be on some sort of “moral high ground”??

            Hypocrite…

          • Magyar

            -http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2012/04/brutal-gypsy-criminal-beheaded-elderly.html

            -http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2012/03/gypsy-poacher-murdered-game-warden-with.html

            -http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2011/12/police-captured-two-gypsies-that-beat.html

            -http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2011/10/two-minor-gypsy-criminals-brutally.html

            -http://www.hungarianambiance.com/2011/09/gypsy-criminals-kicked-and-robbed-9.html

            Are you telling me that is how people act, or should act, eh?

          • Leto مؤدّب

            @justasking:

            Without introducing user registration, Erik could ban this scum based on only the IP number. However that’s very easy to circumvent.
            User registration would solve the problem of fake posts, too, but Erik is apparently reluctant to do this. First it may require some extra work, second it would decrease people’s willingness to comment on the site.

  • Magyar

    *Biased, damn autocorrect

  • Gyuszi

    “Is the Fidesz Mayor also stupid?”

    That goes without saying.

    “Hungarian-Roma cooperation”

    Cooperation the usual way: they steal our stuff and we let them. Cool.

    If gypsies want to be a separate, non-Hungarian group, then why are they here? Just dust off them covered wagon and move to the tolerant west, or back to the old country. We have suffered enough already.

    • Anti-Jobbo

      You are too weak minded to imagine what could be if you let go of your primitive rascist worldview. Poor fool.

      Let me guess, you probably think you are a good Christian.

      • Viking

        No, ‘gyuszi’ thinks she is the only immigrant to the Carpathian Basin who has the right to stay here, then she belongs to God’s Chosen People

        Funny then that God did not exist when the Magyars came around here, He obviously discovered the Magyars later, after they had arrived here

      • Anti-Moron

        “You are too weak minded to imagine what could be if you let go of your primitive rascist worldview. Poor fool.”

        Lets see, Gypsies will continue breeding like rabbits.
        Nobody will do anything about it.
        Gypsies will become 40% of the population.
        They will start running about, raping, murdering people as much as they want.

        The police won’t do anything because gypsies are protected people, and arresting them for murder is racism.

        Thus gypsies will completely destroy Hungary, you fucking idiotic piece of shit.
        Do the world a favour and cut your balls off if you haven’t already, nobody wants your scum genes polluting the worlds gene pool.

        • Viking

          Anti-Moron says:
          August 21, 2012 at 5:11 pm

          Lets see, Gypsies will continue breeding like rabbits.
          Nobody will do anything about it.
          Gypsies will become 40% of the population.

          If you just change “Gypsies” for “Arabs” this statement is heard every day in Isr**l
          So are you sitting in J*rusalem or T*lAviv writing these posts?

  • Monica

    @ Leto

    Referring to me?…..I am not jewish you moron.

  • Magyar

    Gypsy integration into Hungarian community has not worked, and will never work.

    It seems none of you were raped, mugged, assaulted by a gypsy.
    Thankfully, neither have I, but unlike you idiots, I don’t need to put my hand in fire to find out that it hurts.
    I do however have lots of experiences with gypsies.
    Going back from óvoda all the way to gimnázium to now.
    I had my friends threatened at knife point by gypsies, many got mugged as well.

    I don’t want to wish you wrong, but one day, when you are walking in Borsod county, and you get gang raped by a gang of gypsies, you will come crying on this website about how the “big bad Magyar” was right all along.

    But I hope you will never have to realise that I am right under such circumstances, and you will become enlightened peacefully.

    Peace.

    • Magyar

      Ok, I admit that the certain comment was a bit too much for this website, and I am sorry, however, there is some truth to it.

      What do you call raping 80 year old women, gang raping little children, beheading people, if not animal barbarism?

      • …justasking

        @Magyar,

        ‘Ok, I admit that the certain comment was a bit too much for this website, and I am sorry, however, there is some truth to it’

        Geez…ya think? How about ‘a bit too much’ for any site?

        You are going to find a lunatic fringe in all ethnicity’s, only naive people paint with broad brush strokes to make a point.
        ———–

        ‘What do you call raping 80 year old women, gang raping little children, beheading people, if not animal barbarism?’

        Those SPECIFIC people are yes.
        ——-

        Sorry for the typo on the one of my other posts..should have been ‘border’ not ‘boarder’

        ———–
        @ricsi,

        ‘Yes lets ban everyone we disagree with’

        Oh, knock it off!

        You can’t put Magyar’s repulsive comment in the same catagory as people arguing over events in history, who’s political party is ‘best’ for the people or who’s mother makes a better pörkölt.

        He put himself into the same category as that Ugly American.

        • Magyar

          Hi justasking!

          Leto has called me and Ricsi “barely human”, are you going to complain about that too? Or is it only when it involves gypsies that you start caring?

          • …justasking

            @Magyar,

            ‘Leto has called me and Ricsi “barely human”, are you going to complain about that too?’

            Now why would I do that, when it’s simply a case of one poster attacking another poster on poli.hu?

            I may not agree with ricsi allot of the time; but, I don’t mind him. Same with Double. They’ve always been respectful towards me.

            Years ago, a couple of ricsi’s friends came after me with both guns blazing; he could have quite easily joined in, but didn’t.

            I find some people to be evil and vile…like your comment; but, I wouldn’t consider you ‘barely human’ if that’s what your getting at.

    • Viking

      Magyar says:
      August 21, 2012 at 6:26 pm

      It seems none of you were raped, mugged, assaulted by a gypsy

      Poor you, I can understand your anger
      You have my sympathy

      Can you in anyway quantify how better you would have felt if it had been a TisztaMagyar who had “raped, mugged, assaulted” you?

      • Magyar

        Read my post again.

        • Viking

          Are you now claiming that you have none whatsoever personal bad experience from Roma, it is all hearsay?

          • Magyar

            I have plenty of bad experience with gypsies, but I was never killed, stabbed, raped by one (basically things that involve the police).

            They have shot my dog though (beautiful German Shepard, had him since he was a puppy, he was a guard dog.
            I assume they wanted to rob my house, but they probably run off from the scene of the crime.

            I have plenty of bad experiences with gypsies, since I am from former Gömör-Kishont, but I also have lots of family in Borsod, and I spent a lot of my time there.

  • Monica

    @ JA
    @Erik,
    I’m with Leto on this one…please delete JA’s post and if possible, ban her from this site.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      You’re out of your mind. It wasn’t JA who wrote that post.

    • ricsi

      Yes lets ban everyone we disagree with,lets ban talking about gypsy crimes,lets ban talking about myths from WW2 and 6 million,lets ban???? lets ban everything you are too cowardly to face up tő,lets ban freedom,free speech,free life etc…. you hypocrites will be the first to cry when you realise how you have been lied to and what freedoms you gave away so easily-PATHETIC
      God bless Magyar and a few others here who still see the truth.
      Erik@Ban everybody,ban the site :)

      • Magyar

        God bless you Ricsi!

        Adjon az Isten! Szebb jövőt!

        Hiszek egy Istenben, hiszek egy hazában!
        Hiszek egy isteni örök igazságban,
        Hiszek Magyarország feltámadásában! Ámen!!

      • Leto مؤدّب

        Hm, people like you are borderline human so normal morals don’t apply to you. Maybe you are too cowardly (weak-hearted) to face up to it … but believe me, considering freedom, free speech, free life, etc….* I still see this very truth!

        * and Life, the Universe and Everything, of course

        • Magyar

          Again, you show your hypothetical side!

          To you, it’s fine to call your fellow Hungarians “borderline human so normal morals don’t apply to you.”

          But if someone says those same words about another ethnic group, you suddenly cry about it.

          It just shows how much of a traitor you are, you would be willing to stab your own volk in the back so some gypsies can continue to steal freely.

          • Magyar

            *hypocritical, damn autocorrect

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Your post just shows your duplicity. I only applied what you wrote above to people like you and this ricsi.

            And pipe down with writing about my fellow Hungarians, you both are certainly a disgrace to them.

          • Magyar

            Leto I have a question for you.

            You, a gypsy criminal rapist and someone like ‘me and Ricsi’.

            You have to throw ONE in the sea, otherwise the boat will sink.
            Who would throw?

          • Magyar

            Leto I have a question for you.
            You, a gypsy criminal rapist and someone like ‘me and Ricsi’ are on a boat in the middle of the ocean.

            You have to throw ONE in the ocean, otherwise the boat will sink.
            Who would throw?

          • Leto مؤدّب

            I don’t care about your desperate attempts at covering up that post of yours.

          • Magyar

            Who would you throw?*

            Damn what is up with me today? Must be Pista bácsi’s pálinka…

            Btw, let me get something straight.
            So according to you, its fine when you call people with different (read: superior) political views “barely human”, but when I say the same about another group, I am the scum of the earth and I must be banned.

            Do you not see the hypocrisy?

          • Magyar

            “I don’t care about your desperate attempts at covering up that post of yours.”

            It has nothing to do with that post.
            I am just interested to see what kind of person you really are.

            Now tell me, who would you sacrifice, someone like me, or a gypsy criminal who raped and murdered an 8 year old girl?

            Come on Leto, it’s not so hard to chose, or maybe it is for you?
            I bet you would sacrifice ‘someone like me’,its only natural for a degenerate like you to chose the gypsy. Better have a gypsy rapist roaming the streets than a patriot, eh? Ahaha

            Btw, let me ask, are you from Budapest? Since you are Atheist I assume so, that city is the stronghold of liberalism in Hungary, we call it Judapest.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Coming to the aid of the postcommie bastards, aren’t you? How unsurprising! :D

          • Magyar

            “Coming to the aid of the postcommie bastards, aren’t you? ”
            I don’t see how this is relevant to anything I have said.
            I hate communists more than you do, that’s for sure.
            Feel free to bash the communists though, I don’t really care. Heck, I would prefer a Jobbik-Fidesz coalition, or even a Fidesz victory than MSZP.

            Off course, a moron like you probably believes I am an MSZP sympathiser :D :D

            Oh Leto, you don’t know half of it.

            “So according to you, its fine when you call people with different (read: superior)”
            That was referring to me and Ricsi, My beliefs are superior to yours.
            You see Leto, in this world there is only 1 right belief, and that is the one I, and many of my fellow Hungarians share. Your beliefs are degenerate, but not as degenerate as communism, mszp, liberal demokracy….

            Conclusion: If you think I am a commie, then you never read any of my posts.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Leto, the liberal… :D :D
            Anybody wanna comment on that? :D ROTFLMAO

            FYI, I’m so far from what you mean as someone possibly can be. (Similarly to Orbán, I’m from the Hungarian countryside. And I come from a purely Catholic “working class” family. Unlike Orbán’s father, my dad wasn’t even an MSZMP member.)

          • Curious George

            @NBM – you’re complaining about lack of freedoms. Let me ask you this question. If my Hungarian students choose to be unlike you, and instead choose to adopt my global mindset, you would try to stop them from learning anything about what I have to teach them about the world outside of Hungary. How are you different from the commies who try to prevent individual freedoms and thoughts? Is your mindset and philosophy so weak that someone, who has little visible commonalities in heritage with them, can appeal to them more than you can?
            You do come across like a typical commie.

          • Magyar

            George, you are the commie here, with your globalist mindset, not me.

            I am a Nationalist, however I don’t mind people learning about the world outside Hungary.
            I myself would like to travel to Central Asia, the Middle and Near East, and see whats it like.

            In the old days, we had explorers, such as Marco Polo. I see nothing wrong with that.

            However, people should put their OWN country, and OWN culture above all. I am sad when I see a lot of Hungarian teenagers being obsessive with Japan, and Japanese culture for example, but those people can’t name a single King of Hungary.

          • seinean

            Start light : travel to Transylvania :)

          • Curious George

            @NBM – ah, there you’re wrong. There are no commies where I come from.
            It’s good that you want to travel to places farther than Europe. You should do so as soon as possible. You’ll be surprised beyond belief.
            Btw, is forcing your views on Hungarians who dont want them a typical Magyar practise?

          • Magyar

            Magyar children are brainwashed by Globalist to hate their past.

            If it was up to me, school would be a place for true learning.
            Every school day would be started with a prayer to reverse Trianon, just like in the 30s.

            George, I want every Hungarian to know the truth about their past, and to be proud of it.

            A Globalist such as yourself would never understand national pride.

            Everyone must be a patriot of their own country, that is the natural default setting of humans.

          • MagyarViking

            Magyar says:
            August 22, 2012 at 6:15 pm

            Everyone must be a patriot of their own country, that is the natural default setting of humans

            But which “their own country”?
            The modern world of today is built upon the fact that people just did not do that. People saw the good of joining bigger “countries”, like Italy formed, France formed, the UK formed, etc

            These people were all traitors?

          • Curious George

            @NBM – Again, you show your mindset limitations about how patriotism is measured. I can’t see you as being patriotic when you’ve avoided your military service to Hungary, have less visible contributions in Hungary than my mother, and you want to prevent young Hungarians from learning how to do more for Hungary than you are able to?
            Oh, I do understand about national pride. I just choose not to wave a flag. I’ve served my country’s military for more than 2 decades, its diplomatic service for a decade, and try to contribute to my country’s development and progress in other ways. We may not have won as many olympic medals as Hungary, had as many nobel prize winners, or have any inventions which you know about (I’m know you have no role in any of that). I am however, proud of what we do have – reasonable growth, lower unemployment, less crime or social discord, and better food :) & I know I contributed a little to some of that.

          • justasking…

            @George,

            ‘and try to contribute to my country’s development and progress in other ways’

            And I can personally vouch for that.

            In May, Olga, Viking and I, had the honour of having a ‘sneak-peak’ on Georges new fashion line of formal, semi-formal and casual bones (the type they wear through their noses) before it hit the runway. All gathered, cleaned and hand-painted by an indigenous tribe on Narnia.

            George single handedly, elevated this tribes standard of living.

            No more sleeping in trees for them; all because he was able to ‘think outside the box’.

          • Curious George

            ….you don’t know squat.

            @NBM – I could say the same about you.
            ps. Please don’t take NBM as an insult. I’m just calling it as I see it.
            a. You ran away from a bet you made.
            b. You are afraid to tell your story despite me telling you mine, after you asked.
            c. You’re so scared that young Hungarians would prefer my views to yours, that you want to insulate them in your cave.

            pps. Not BS about what I said about patriotism
            a. You made 2 mistakes posting about basic military issues in the past, that I am inclined to believe you avoided doing your military service in Hungary
            b. I’m not ashamed to say that my mom really does have more visible contribution in Hungary than my wife or me (it has benefited one sector of the Hungarian food production industry since the 80s)
            c. Your objection to young Hungarians learning and choosing new avenues to improve Hungary is obvious when reading your post.

            JA is exaggerating about the impact of my new fashion line. I’m just one in the whole troop of monkeys who has helped to bring them down from the trees. There are still a few like you up there, but thankfully, most realize we need to embrace what the world has to offer.

        • Magyar

          Jungle Monkey (I havent insulted you in a while, but since you dont have the courtesy to do the same, its back to monkey).

          You dont know me, you dont know what I do, you dont know squat. So why dont you shove your bullshit where the sun doesnt shine.

    • …justasking

      @Monica,

      Piss off you poof!

  • This ‘n That

    Or the Hungarian govt can take a page from Israel and not reply at all. Seems to work for that country and their blatant human rights abuses and war crime atrocities.

  • Magyar

    Its funny how the self proclaimed human rights activists outright ignored my posts at 6:10 pm , 6:13 pm, 6:26 pm and 6:31 pm.

    I bet when a Hungarian gets cut in half by a hang of gypsies with a machete, Leto, Monika, just asking, Paul and many others don’t even bat an eyelid.

    But if a Hungarian looks at a gypsy in the wrong way, its all over the news and its condemned as a “hate attack”.

    • …justasking

      @Magyar,

      ‘I bet when a Hungarian gets cut in half by a hang of gypsies with a machete, Leto, Monika, just asking, Paul and many others don’t even bat an eyelid’

      Enough of the bloody drama! Be a man and own what you wrote.

      • Leto مؤدّب

        This one is not that type at all. Really.

      • Magyar

        Oh how funny JA, now its a drama?

        Why don’t you tell the “Holocaust victims” ‘enough of the bloody drama’?

        When a gypsy complains about some Jobbik barbecue, you are all ears, but when it comes to ethnic Hungarians being attacked, you, Leto, and your types pretends it doesn’t happen.

        Am I the only one on this forum who cares about Hungarian victims?

        • Leto مؤدّب

          “when it comes to ethnic Hungarians being attacked, you, Leto, and your types pretends it doesn’t happen”

          A quote, attributed to Solzhenichin, comes to mind:

          “There is no lie, requiring an armor-straight face which a Communist wouldn’t tell without batting an eyelid”

          It applies very well to your kind as well. It’s no coincidence at all why the Arrow Cross and the Communist scum were so compatible.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Sorry guys, please disregard this post as it’s fake as well. I have never heard of Solzhenichin, Arrow Cross or the Holocaust.

          • Magyar

            “the Arrow Cross and the Communist scum were so compatible.”

            And do you have any proof of this? Or is this another one of your lies?

            FYI, the Arrow Cross were not my kind, I am more of Horthy fan, from the early days, before he went soft.

            The Arrow Cross were simply nuts.
            Did you know they wanted to rename Hungary to “Greater Carpato-Danubian-Slavonian fatherland”, or something like that lol.

            btw, I see nothing contrary to “ethnic Hungarians being attacked, you, Leto, and your types pretends it doesn’t happen.”
            You have refused to answer my boat question. And its obvious what the answer is.

            Someone like you would shed more at Gypsy rapists funeral, than at a Jobbik voters funeral.

          • Magyar

            Someone like you would shed more tears at a Gypsy rapists funeral, than at a Jobbik voters funeral.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            In fact I hear way too much about the Holocaust.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            “And do you have any proof of this? ”

            Sure thing.

            Besides all the efforts of Governor Horthy, “Vörös Csepel” (an industrial district of Budapest in the south) elected 5 Arrow Cross MPs, out of 7, in 1939
            A few years later, after the war, Csepel was the most solid Communist stronghold.

            Moreover it’s well-known that

            “A háborút követően az új, kommunista vezetésű Magyarország karhatalmának, az ÁVH-nak a működésében sok egykori nyilas is (gúnynevükön „kisnyilasok”) részt vett, akik egy része önkéntesen, míg más része valamilyen külső „ösztönzés” hatására csatlakozott.”
            -http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyilaskeresztes_P%C3%A1rt

            So a lot of Arrow Cross henchmen became the henchmen of the Communists, even their torture center was in the same building, in Andrássy út 60. (See the museum House of Terror)

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Correction:
            I meant “despite all the efforts of”

          • Magyar

            Cool.

            But like I said before, and I will say it again.
            I am not a great fan of the Arrow Cross. I have never ever said this. They did have a couple of ok ideas though.
            Who knows, maybe if it wasn’t for them, Hungary would have been 20% Gypsy, and 30% Jewish.

            I prefer the likes of Gyula Gömbös.
            The Arrow Cross even wanted to give autonomy to Romanians and Slavs in areas where they were 80% or more. Outrageous!

          • Magyar

            Cool.

            But like I said before, and I will say it again.
            I am not a great fan of the Arrow Cross. I have never ever said this. They did have a couple of ok ideas though, mainly to do with work.

            Who knows, maybe if it wasn’t for them, Hungary would have been 20% Gypsy, and 30% @wish.

            I prefer the likes of Gyula Gömbös.
            The Arrow Cross even wanted to give autonomy to Romanians and Slavs in areas where they were 80% or more. Outrageous! We would have been a minority again.

        • Magyar

          “Be a man and own what you wrote.”

          Oh I own what I wrote.

          But hey, how about you scum lift ‘hate speech’ (read: anti freedom of speech, and censorship laws).

          Come on, don’t be a coward, stop hiding behind laws and censorship.
          Hopefully one day we will be able to talk freely, being able to say what we want.

          You are shitting yourself, because when that day comes, we will be able to burn down the web of lies you people have created.

          In most countries, wearing a Soviet Union CCCP tshirt is allowed, but even if I wore a t-shirt with Albert Wass on it, I would probably get arrested for hate speech!

          So come on Justasking, cut the bullshit, you know very well what the situation is, I have to play by your games, by laws and rules you people have created for your own agenda.

          • …justasking

            @Magyar,

            ‘But hey, how about…’ ‘Come on, don’t be a coward…’

            ‘So come on Justasking, cut the bullshit, you know very well what the situation is, I have to play by your games, by laws and rules you people have created for your own agenda…’

            why not stick around here a little longer, read my posts and turn around and ask me these questions again.

            Until then, step away from the palinka.

          • Magyar

            Are you saying that you are NOT a liberal antifa commie?

          • …justasking

            @Magyar,

            ‘Are you saying that you are NOT a liberal antifa commie?’

            You seem to have all the answers, you tell me.

          • Viking

            Magyar says:
            August 21, 2012 at 11:34 pm

            In most countries, wearing a Soviet Union CCCP tshirt is allowed, but even if I wore a t-shirt with Albert Wass on it, I would probably get arrested for hate speech!

            Skip the T-shirts, it is your body that will get arrested for hate speech

            On the other hand, pls put back that T-shirt!
            No T-shirt can look *that* bad…

        • …justasking

          @Magyar,

          ‘Why don’t you tell the…’, ‘but when it comes to ethnic Hungarians being attacked, you, Leto, and your types pretends it doesn’t happen’

          Hát, maga részeg, vagy tényleg hülye .. melyik igaz?

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Ez a szerencsétlen tényleg teljesen hülye.

          • …justasking

            @Leto,

            Figyel… mi van, ha illetve nem részeg, se hülye…csak nagyon fiatal? Ez megmagyarázná egy csomó. Hát nem?

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