August 17th, 2012

Media Council invalidates Klubrádió bid

The Media Council ruled on Thursday that bids for the 95.3 MHz frequency used by Klubrádió are formally invalid.

The Media Council announced that it has proceeded in harmony with norms characterising a state governed by rule of law, and fully honours legal principles made clear by a court. The Media Council says it follows from a court ruling stating that another bidder, Autórádió, did not sign all the pages of its bid, that Klubrádió should have signed the back blank page of the bidding document.

Klubrádió responded that the authority has but one fixed idea, to eliminate Klubrádió, and has violated the very act it had shaped to its taste. The Media Council is systematically unlawful and its dismissal is required in the name of protecting freedom of press and democracy, the radio station averred.

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  • Aloof

    What a disgusting saga this continues to be. The 95.3 MHz frequency was already a dead horse in 2010 when OV changed the rules for that frequency to be explicitly used for a “music radio station that presents some local information and values,” with maximum points being granted to stations with over 60 percent music and 25 percent local news content. As if Budapest needed another music station or something.

    Then the servile Media Council was under obligation to sign the contract for the 92.9 MHz frequency that Klub Radio won. Where was the rule of law then? Ohhhh yeah, the ‘ole “retroactive” trick. The 92.9 frequency was not declared free by Annamária Szalai’s crew because under the new Media Law it states that a radio station can receive a free frequency only if that frequency’s free status was declared by the present Media Authority. (Precious)..

    Only rules being applied to Klub Radio are vindictiveness, hate, paranoia and persecution; law has nothing to do with it. Democracy? Yeah right…

  • Leto مؤدّب

    Eliminating Klubrádió is a good idea but unfortunately 92.9 Mhz is just a single frequency band. They’ve got five more.

    • Aloof

      “Eliminating Klubrádió is a good idea”…
      Why? What are you afraid of? 92.9 Mhz is a frequency, not a band.

      “They’ve got five more.”
      They can’t afford 5 more rounds in court unless you’re willing to contribute some money to keep them going. We all know it won’t be you.

      • Leto مؤدّب

        92.9 Mhz refers to a frequency band, it’s not a single frequency of 92.9 Mhz.

        “We all know it won’t be you.”

        Surely not. :)

        What about my question in the other thread, concerning Csurka?

        • Aloof

          Bzzzz… wrong. You’re talking about 200Khz guard bands which are NOT broadcast on.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Wrong. FM radios are frequency modulated (as opposed to amplitude modulation). So it’s a frequency band.

            -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_broadcast_band

            PS: So do you admit you lied in that sentence about Csurka?

  • Paul

    @ Leto
    “Eliminating Klubrádió is a good idea”…yes?, why?

    Quote: Reporters without borders.
    In February, a Budapest municipal court overturned the Media Council’s decision, disqualified Autoradio and ruled that the frequency should go to Klubradio as the station that came second in the bid contest. Although the ruling was upheld on appeal a month later, the ruling party, Fidesz, which controls parliament and the Media Council, tried to have a law passed that would allow the council to override court decisions.

    And what about this law Fidesz wants to pass to override court decisions…(if the information is true, is it?)
    Because if it is…..than talking about deleting checks and balances is not….ÿour words..blah, blah, blah at all.

    Signed Paul…to make my comment valid I will sign the next still blank comment too.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      Why? For the very same reason why a Nazi propaganda station should be destroyed, too.

      • Viking

        Leto مؤدّب says:
        August 17, 2012 at 12:00 pm

        For the very same reason why a Nazi propaganda station should be destroyed, too.

        And the proof that KlubRadio is on the same level as “Nazi propaganda station” is?

      • Paul

        Wiki: Klubrádió is heavily involved in left-liberal party politics …so left-liberal….lots of those parties around within Europe. Should be destroyed? Is comparable with Nazi-propaganda?
        And….more important:
        And what about this law Fidesz wants to pass to override court decisions…(if the information is true, is it?)

  • Paul

    Signed: Paul

  • wolfi

    Orbán’s rabid kutya shows again his Nazi thinking:

    “Eliminating Klubrádió is a good idea”

    like “Destroy …”

    Next step is Magyar’s proposal to “hang them high …”

    What a loonie bunch – we’re luck to live in 21st century where ideas like that are just the pathplogical side of a small minority.

    The Hungarians I know think different …

  • Aloof

    So all we want to hear is OV propaganda according to you? Thank god for internet/web radio… What you want sounds more like a facist/nazi type of arrangement along with your revsionism. Going the wrong way dude…

    • Monica

      “Thank god for internet/web radio”….yes, no way VO can stop this. Leto is wasting his time. Everyone reads the Hungarian spectrum. I am Hungarian btw.

      • ZP

        Maybe every Gyurcsan fan does.

        • Paul

          Yep….also,,,but european members of parliament and many others too…it willl not be allowed to turn Hungary in a fascistic dictatorship….Never!

          • Paul

            Earlier thread: Gov’t vows to clamp down on extremism.
            No signs of it at all yet. Not even close. Does the government clamp down on para military fascists? Did they arrest Gábor Barcsa-Turner, fascist, Hungarist, Nazi, yet? No…of course not.

      • Magyar

        I dont want to steal Leto’s catchphrase, but the “Hungarian spectrum” is a rotten postcommie PoS blog.

        If you want something more reasonable, try kuruc.info.
        It tells you everything you need to know.

  • Aloof

    @ Leto مؤدّب says:
    August 17, 2012 at 12:20 pm
    Wrong. FM radios are frequency modulated (as opposed to amplitude modulation). So it’s a frequency band.

    Thanks for backing me up there sunshine! Exactly as I said!

    The current FM technical standards on the expanded band, using 200 kHz channels (including a guard band) and allowing stations to transmit standard analog FM or hybrid digital using the iBiquity HD Radio system and/or FMeXtra. An inexpensive RF converter is all that existing radios would need for the expanded band. Such converters are already available in Asia and Eastern Europe. 92.9 MHz FM is a frequency channel pal, has been for a long time.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      You wrote above “92.9 Mhz is a frequency, not a band”.

      In my response, I gave a reference to what FM (frequency modulation) means. It explains that in this case the radio signal is transmitted by modulating the carrier frequency 92.9 Mhz in a band. Therefore 92.9 Mhz refers to a frequency band (a frequency range around 92.9 Mhz) like I wrote in my original post at August 17, 2012 at 11:25 am.
      BTW, “frequency channel” and “frequency band” mean the same thing.

      Since you ignored my question yet again you’ve obviously admitted you lied when you wrote “Csurka defended violent neo-Nazis”.

      • Viking

        Leto مؤدّب says:
        August 17, 2012 at 1:23 pm
        Since you ignored my question yet again you’ve obviously admitted you lied when you wrote “Csurka defended violent neo-Nazis”

        Stated by the same person who spews out obvious lies like
        * KlubRadio is on the same level as a “Nazi propaganda station”

      • Leto’s Psychiatrist

        “Since you ignored my question yet again you’ve obviously admitted you lied when you wrote “Csurka defended violent neo-Nazis”.”

        Grandiosity is chiefly associated with narcissistic personality disorder.

        Grandiose – having an exaggerated belief in one’s importance, sometimes reaching delusional proportions, and occurring as a common symptom of mental illnesses.

        • spectator

          randiosity is chiefly associated with narcissistic personality disorder.

          Grandiose – having an exaggerated belief in one’s importance, sometimes reaching delusional proportions, and occurring as a common symptom of mental illnesses.

          Pssst!
          Such an impolite act!
          You shouldn’t disclose Mr.Orban’s profile to the public just like this…

          The man should have some privacy, you see.

  • Aloof

    I never lie sunshine! You agreed with 99.9% of what I said about Csurka and you didn’t agree with one little comment. So THAT makes ME a liar? Go play with yourself, I’m certain you’re expert at it.

    If 92.9 MHz is not a frequency then what is 92.900001 Mhz?
    92.9 Mhz is the center frequency of the FM channel it resides within with 50Khz guard bands, 25Khz on each side and the residual 150Khz to pick up stereo and especially analog broadcast IAW with the current standards. You said it was a Band, it’s not; it’s a channel and 92.9Mhz is the center frequency of that channel.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      That “one little comment” was an explicite lie. And not a white one.

      95.3 MHz is the carrier frequency of that frequency channel. It labels the band/channel and and this frequency lies in the middle of that frequency range/band/channel indeed See my original post at August 17, 2012 at 11:25 am where I used the word “band” in this sense.

      So when you say “95.3 MHz frequency used by Klubrádió” then you mean the frequency band whose carrier frequency is 95.3 MHz.
      “frequency channel” and “frequency band” are synonymous technical terms.

      • Aloof

        @Leto مؤدّب says: August 17, 2012 at 2:34 pm

        “That “one little comment” was an explicite lie. And not a white one.” Says who? YOU? RLMFAO!

        “frequency channel” and “frequency band” are synonymous technical terms. Bzzzz… wrong again there sunshine. Frequency bands go from ELF to EHF (3hz-300Ghz). FM Radio resides within the VHF Band, it is not the Band. The only channels that reside in the VHF Band are in FM Radio so a frequency channel is not a frequency Band.

      • Viking

        Leto مؤدّب says:
        August 17, 2012 at 2:34 pm

        That “one little comment” was an explicite lie. And not a white one.

        Stated by the same person who spews out obvious lies like
        * KlubRadio is on the same level as a “Nazi propaganda station”

        But on the bright side, Mr Putin has A Job For You!

        • Viking

          ‘leto’ is getting busy.
          She has to join Pataki and explain the ‘cultural values’ of Csurka’s work at the opening ceremony of the “Sixth Coffin”
          (-http://www.politics.hu/20120817/former-new-york-governor-george-pataki-to-apply-for-hungarian-citizenship/#comment-117561)

          ‘magyar’ will pay for the ticket and fix a table of refreshments in the intermezzo

  • spectator

    Leto is right!
    There should be only one party, one opinion, one religion and one leader!
    The Hell with all of those confusingly diversifying stuff!
    This is our key to success, and this is our God given right to be single minded orbanist’s, because we like it this way – this is the original half arsed half Asian Hungarian way, nuff said!

    Please, take your queue number in the line for your rations and your uniform!

    Long live all the Monochrome Morons!
    (Orange, if you haven’t guessed)

  • Monica

    About Leto and Magyars double act….this is the context!

    Hungarian Spectrum….READ IT FOLKS:

    “It is common knowledge that Jobbik was fledged in Fidesz’s warm nest and that Jobbik then drew HVIM, the Outlaw Band, the Hungarian Guards and the other neo-fascist groups into its alliance. These are all now proliferating undisturbed under the protective wings of the Hungarian government, fouling the air for all decent Hungarians. It was as a cherished lark from Fidesz’s inner circle that the erstwhile Orbán disciple, Gábor Vona, flew aloft in Hungarian public life to become the leader of Jobbik. Nor is it with Mr. Vona’s anti-democratic spirit or his hate-mongering rhetoric that Fidesz now has a problem, but rather with the fact that he has drawn off several hundred thousand formerly faithful voters from Fidesz.

    • ZP

      The fact is Jobbik profited most from the collapse of MSZP.

  • Magyar

    “Orbán disciple, Gábor Vona,”
    That is bullshit.

  • Monica

    Who cares “fags”like Magayr and Leto…it is the real stuff which counts.

    • Magyar

      Was that your attempt at writing in English?
      Are you ‘Get Real’s twin sister?

      • Monica

        At “Fag”…I am Hungarian

        • Magyar

          I am Hungarian.
          You are \Hungarian\.

          Let me guess, Canadian Hungarian? American Hungarian?
          Since you spell your name as \Monica\, when a Hungarian woman would spell it as \Mónika\.

          • Aloof

            What difference does it make where she’s from? She’s already a better Hungarian than you and the scum like you will ever be.

  • Anonymous

    @Aloof (aka sunshine man)

    Monica is just as much a Hungarian as Gene Simmons.

    • Aloof

      Who are you? Double HH’s bitch?

  • DoubleH63

    @Aloof

    No need to stutter. DoubleH will do just fine, little Gene Simmons (‘great Hungarian’) groupie.

    • Aloof

      Tom Erdelyi says hi!

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