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August 27th, 2012

Navracsics warns against Hungary’s isolation in Europe; says country’s achievements need to be spread to general public abroad

Hungary cannot stand alone and survive isolated from the rest of Europe, Deputy Prime Minister Tibor Navracsics said in his opening address to the Balassi Institute’s annual hungarology conference on Monday.

Losing contact with the outside world could be the first step in the nation’s going under, Navracsics, who is also minister of justice, warned. On the other hand, he said, Hungarian studies could help avoid such a tendency; Hungarian teachers at foreign colleges and universities “could make Hungary clear” in other countries.

“It is important that they understand us and not just in a linguistic sense[...] Hungary’s achievements should be presented and promoted to the public of other countries,” Navracsics said.

The scope of Hungarian studies should be broadened in a way that even those who do not speak the language can understand Hungary’s history and current tendencies, he said. “They should learn our own interpretation, and it does not necessarily depend on Hungarian language skills,” he insisted.

The Balassi Institute supports Hungarian courses in other countries and sends teachers to over 30 foreign universities that deliver lectures to 1,500 students. Apart from teaching classes, those professionals participate in research, help develop ties with Hungarian universities, and promote Hungarian culture.

MTI (Magyar Távirati Iroda) is the Hungarian news agency.
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  • Géza

    \Hungary cannot stand alone and survive isolated from the rest of Europe, Deputy Prime Minister Tibor Navracsics said\

    The nation’s going under by staying a member of the socialist/liberal EU with their federal and multiculturalist agenda!

    Do they really think foreigners are interested in Hungary and want to understand them? Foreign politicians even care less about understanding Hungary How naive!!

    Just trade agrements with other Europian countries and stop trying to be accepted or understood…international politics has nothing to do with being accepted or understood, but with power balance and mutual interest and protecting your own people (country) against foreign interests!

  • Anonymous

    “Hungary cannot stand alone and survive isolated from the rest of Europe” The guy risks losing his job if he speaks such truths. Isolation appears to be the target of OV and he is certainly taking us in that direction. Snubbing the IMF/EU, nationalising industry, refusing to condemn the far right, working to fix the coming election. These are all moves which will secure our isolation and eventual ruin. Our medical profession is voting with its feet as are many other young professionals who would be key to building the future Hungary.

    “Hungary’s achievements should be presented and promoted to the public of other countries” Hungary needs to achieve something before trying to make presentations. Olympic gold medals and Nobel Prizes might be good but really we should be looking for things like increasing foreign investment, higher labour force participation, greater life expectancy and the like.

    • Ma Jar

      To Anonymous (comment dated Aug. 27, 2012 at 1:46 pm) Good post. May I add to Hungary’s olympic gold medals and Nobel Prize winners – contributions include: animal husbandry (e.g. pigs, sheep, horses), fodder and grasses, ornamental horticulture (Syringa ‘josika’), in horticulture several fruit producing trees e.g. Balaton bitter cherry, 9 great Hungarian dogs. Prior to WW1 Hungary produced a unique grinding mill stone ordered by several North American sugar companies e.g. Redpath Sugar in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

  • wolfi

    Re: Hungary’s achievements:

    Most Nobel Prizes to Hungarians went to J*wish scientists – who had been forced to leave Hungary a long time ago …

    Anyone remember that there was a “numerus clausus” against J*wish students at Hungarian universities already in 1921 ?

    It’s not Europe distancing itself from Hungary – it’s the present (!) Hungarian government distancing itself from Europe, becoming more and more similar toa kind of “Little Russia” …

    • Ma Jar

      The Nobel Prize winning Hungarian speaking Jewish scientists were the result of the Hungarian school system. They were mostly schooled in Hungary and taught by Christian and Jewish teachers.
      As for the “numerus clausus” against Jewish students – this was not limited to Europe and to Hungary. This was also practiced successfully at McGill University in Montreal, Quebec, Canada for many, many years.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      Anyone remembering that there was a “numerus clausus” against J*wish students at US universities and high scools still in 1951?

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

      • MagyarViking

        Leto مؤدّب says:
        August 27, 2012 at 2:50 pm

        Anyone remembering that there was a “numerus clausus” against J*wish students at US universities and high scools still in 1951?

        Good argument!
        Next time do not forget to mention that Rhodesia and South Africa were apartheid-states also when Hungary was a Communist Haven for goose-steppers like yourself

        And that the Sharpeville Massacre on 21 March 1960 justifies all the hundred thousand Hungarian J*ws killed in WWII

  • Géza

    How naive to think foreigners want to “understand” hungarians and foreign politicians really don’t care, they care about their own interests and ideologies they want to spread around the globe.

    The nation’s going under by staying a member of the EU and their federal and multicultural agenda.

    Just trade agrements with the other Europian countries and others outside Europe nothing more!

    Intersnational politics have nothing to do with being accepted, but everything with a power balance and shared interests.
    Next to this, a country have to protect itself and its people against foreign interest or ideologies that will harm the nation.

    • Ma Jar

      I can’t agree with you Geza. I spend a lot of time in Hungary and I have seen the contributions and demands made by the European Union and these are all for the good of Hungary. Now, having said that, you may know more than I have physically seen so please clue me in.

    • Aloof

      “The nation’s going under by staying a member of the EU and their federal and multicultural agenda.”

      No the nation is going under because Fidesz (or anybody else) has no viable economic plan, negative growth, inflation, is in recession and under austerity measures. You have arrogant, provocative and bungling country bumpkins for diplomats. You have a whacked out far right neo nazi Party elected to your Parliament and their supporting militias running around the countryside spreading anti-semitism, homophobic and racial hatred plus fear under the guise of “patriotism.”

      What do you have to trade BTW that anyone wants? What EU countries are going to want to trade with an anti- EU country that continually threatens to exit the EU? You have no friends, no natural resources so where are you going? If it wasn’t for the EU Hungary would already be “under.”

      The Austro Hungarian Empire was nothing if not multi- cultural so what in the hell are you babbling about? Oh it was OK when you had the “power” eh?

      Hungary better start doing something about protecting itself from itself or by getting your friggin’ act together.

      You’re closer to becoming Belarus II too pal than anything independent and Russia is a federation. Looking to the East or propagandic turanistic drivel isn’t going to save your butt either. Good luck with your isolation.

  • Danny

    Let the justice minister start by paying the government
    Debt to Malev employees in Hungary and other countries
    This wull be a great achievement for before the isolation.
    I think Hungarians should send both parties home next Election and reunite with its grand history

  • Paul

    Right now….”the chilling effect on independent media, the politicisation of the judiciary, the stripping of denomination status of hundreds of religious groups, the potential limitations on reproductive rights and discrimination of LGBT people…need to be spread to general public abroad.”

    • Leto مؤدّب

      How many times more are you going to copy-paste this BS here?

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

      • Paul

        How many times more are you going to copy-paste this BS here? …but it is not BS….as ofetn as I like. Freedom of expression.

  • Fidesz representative

    We condem anti semetism and racism.

    Every citizen of Hungary enjoys equal rights.
    We are activelly working to make sure it stays that way.

    • Aloof

      Like the citizens who work at Klub Radio? Who’s working on that?

      • Democrat

        The issue is not so much those who work there as those who want to be able to listen to the station.

        • Aloof

          You’re absolutely right there Democrat but who cares about them? Certainly not this failing regime or its paranoid lapdogs.

  • Leto مؤدّب

    The Media Council of the National Media and Infocommunications Authority

    • Paul

      Navracsics warns against Hungary’s isolation in Europe…LOL….The Media Council??? The censor you mean
      Leto is working on more isolation it seems.

      • Leto مؤدّب

        “Isolation” :D You’ve had wet dreams again.

        ” August 27, 2012 at 3:26 pm” was a fake post again

        Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

        • Paul

          @ Leto

          Nothing sexual at all…Hungary’s isolation within the EU is a reality.
          BTW…we have elections coming up. 4 candidates who want to be prime-minister debated. Conclusion…the one who was not insulting and simply explained his point of view did win according to the people who watched.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            “Hungary’s isolation within the EU is a reality.”

            Only in your wet dreams. :)

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

          • Paul

            Stripping Hungarian voting rights within the EU is very isolated.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Dear me! Why are those undressing Magyar election rights within the EU so secluded? If those poor cats feel lonesome indeed then I suggest they should socialize a bit.

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

    • Aloof

      That’s not an equal rights organization, it’s an extermination squad like Vector Control. You probably enjoy that on several levels…

  • Paul

    There was a professor from Hungary teaching in Amsterdam…he tried…it completely backfired. Too arrogant, not in touch with Dutch values at all……he was a complete disaster. The gap between the Fidesz values and the Dutch is far too big. VO is regarded as a wannabe dictator by all of us in my country. Gays are respected by all. Freedom of speech is regarded to be very important etc. etc.

    • Magyar

      Do the Dutch even have any values?
      I was always under the impression that they don’t.

      • MagyarViking

        Magyar says:
        August 27, 2012 at 3:30 pm

        Do the Dutch even have any values?
        I was always under the impression that they don’t.

        Maybe the Greatest Value is to accept other peoples values as theirs and not shove down yours in their throat?

        There is a word ford that:
        * ‘Tolerance’

        Try that word 3 times in front of a mirror every day and after some months maybe you will start to understand it…

        • Magyar

          “Maybe the Greatest Value is to accept other peoples values as theirs and not shove down yours in their throat?”

          So why do you protest against Fidesz and Jobbik?
          Why do you try to shove your liberal values down my throat?

          Why dont you eat your shit, and act on your own advice?
          In which case, leave Jobbik alone.

          “Tolerance”? Whats that?
          Is it when we let gypsies roam and break the law when they see fit?

        • MagyarViking

          Magyar says:
          August 27, 2012 at 3:41 pm

          So why do you protest against Fidesz and Jobbik?

          Because Fidesz is a populist party which will say anything to get elected

          “Jobbik” is a fascist party which very actively states and acts in a way to show that they do not accept people with other values

          It seems that the Hungarian Police is very tolerant against organised pro-”Jobbik” (and other fascists movements) vigilantes. That is not what I mean with ‘Tolerance’

          Personally I have a very small tolerance with any criminal, but I do not discriminate in my ‘intolerance’

          • Magyar

            If you are so tolerant, you should show tolerance to Jobbik’s views and opinions.

        • Géza

          tolerance for immorality that is!

    • Géza

      “VO is regarded as a wannabe dictator by all of us in my country.”

      Really?! In which poll can I find this conclusion about ALL the dutch regarding Victor Orbán a wannabe dictator? Or is it just the small group of lefties and liberals in your own suroundings?

      • Paul

        Nope…all the press. ALL

        • Géza

          all the press, the mainstream dutch media owned by the same companies you mean right? Where do they get their information? Right reuters and such…like all the mainstream media on the planet.

          If that is where you got your information and views from, I can understand your unsubstantiated posts here.

  • Paul

    “I was always under the impression that they don’t”….smile…that is because you are YOU. Tells a lot about YOU.

    • Magyar

      What?

      • Paul

        ‘Tolerance’..you have none.

        • Magyar

          If you are so tolerant, why don’t you show tolerance to my (lack of) tolerance?

          • Leto مؤدّب

            SZDSZ (Alliance of Free Democrats) tolerance: “we tolerate your being different and your opinion as long as you agree with us”

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

          • …justasking

            @Magyar,

            ‘If you are so tolerant, why don’t you show tolerance to my (lack of) tolerance?’

            Aah, cause somethings should not be tolerated…things, that undermine a ‘civilized’ society?

          • spectator

            JA, the “‘civilized’ society” – part is totally wasted – they have no perception of that, whatsoever.

            Tell the blind there’s dawning…?

          • …justasking

            @spec,

            ‘part is totally wasted – they have no perception of that, whatsoever’

            Well, can’t fault a girl from tyring…can you?

          • spectator

            - Actually I just love when girls trying… nothing to blame for!

    • Zaki

      Magyar, I am just wondering… why are you such an intolerant racist? Did a gypsié fuck your mother? Did a Romanian stole your minimum wage job? Or are you just a gày that is still deep in the closet (well, that would explain at least why you are posting around the clock)?!
      Thanks for a polite and honest answer.

      • Anonymous

        AGAIN AND AGAIN DIRTY MOUTHS PREVAIL. WHAT A SHAME THIS SITE IS NOT MONITORED.

        • Anonymous2

          Dirt mouth because of fuck? Damn, on which fascist, catholic planet do you live? This site is full of neonazi and racis quotes, and you complain for something a word as fuck?!?!!

          • Anonymous

            Same on you, nay, nay the most shame is laid at the feet of your parents for not giving you a proper upbringing.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            It takes an American “liberal” (and most probably J*wish) moron to bundle the words “fascist” and “catholic” together.

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

  • Géza

    for the liberals and lefties, the meaning of the word tolerant is just what is in agrement with their politically correct rules.

    • spectator

      “…what is in agreement with their politically correct rules.
      Reply ”

      - Fundamentally wrong, I’m afraid.
      The rules what matters is NOT political, but MORAL.

      Unfortunately, being a racist Nazi has “some” political inclinations too, but the reason why I have no tolerance toward such scum is totally apolitical: in my view they are morally wrong, consequently I have zero tolerance.

  • Géza

    their (and your) politicall correct rules are based on their (your) “morals”…

    Besides that….and your “morals” are based on what?

    Do you believe in absolute morals given by a diety or is just your opinion of what morals are all about, enough justification to condemn others, who do not share your (moral) views??

    So you see yourself as moral superiour to others?

    The problem is that your moral views are based on a desturbed and wrong view of human nature.

    There will be a day in the near future that the majority of people in the Western world, will see that the liberals and socialists are the real scum of the earth, because it will be clear for everyone to see that these are the criminals, who started a ethnic cleansing/gynocide against their own people (etnic/cultural group) and they are busy for decadesnow with replacing the original population of the Europian countries with people from the third world!

    What about racism? The liberals and lefties are the biggest racist in modern times. Their anti-racism is just another word for anti-white!

  • Géza

    their (and your) politicall correct rules are based on their (your) “morals”…

    Besides that….and your “morals” are based on what?

    Do you believe in absolute morals given by a diety or is just your opinion of what morals are all about, enough justification to condemn others, who do not share your (moral) views??

    So you see yourself as moral superiour to others?

    The problem is that your moral views are based on a desturbed and wrong view of human nature.

    There will be a day in the near future that the majority of people in the Western world, will see that the liberals and socialists are the real scum of the earth, because it will be clear for everyone to see that these are the criminals, who started a ethnic cleansing/gynocide against their own people (etnic/cultural group) and they are busy for decadesnow with replacing the original population of the Europian countries with people from the third world!

    What about racism? The liberals and lefties are the biggest racist in modern times. Their anti-racism is just another word for anti-white!!

  • Géza

    Their (and your) politicall correct rules are based on their (your) “morals”…

    Besides that….and your “morals” are based on what?!

    Do you believe in absolute morals given by a diety or is just your opinion of what morals are all about, enough justification to condemn others, who do not share your (moral) views??

    So you see yourself as moral superiour to others?

    The problem is that your moral views are based on a desturbed and wrong view of human nature.

    There will be a day in the near future that the majority of people in the Western world, will see that the liberals and socialists are the real scum of the earth, because it will be clear for everyone to see that these are the criminals, who started a ethnic cleansing/gynocide against their own people (etnic/cultural group) and they are busy for decadesnow with replacing the original population of the Europian countries with people from the third world!

    What about racism? The liberals and lefties are the biggest racist in modern times. Their anti-racism is just another word for anti-white!

  • Géza

    is there some sencorship here?

  • Géza

    their (and your) politicall correct rules are based on their (your) “morals”…

    Besides that….and your “morals” are based on what?

    Do you believe in absolute morals given by a diety or is just your opinion of what morals are all about, enough justification to condemn others, who do not share your (moral) views??

    So you see yourself as moral superiour to others?

    The problem is that your moral views are based on a desturbed and wrong view of human nature.

    There will be a day in the near future that the majority of people in the Western world, will see that the liberals and socialists are the real scum of the earth, because it will be clear for everyone to see that these are the criminals, who started a ethnic cleansing/gynocide against their own people (etnic/cultural group) and they are busy for decadesnow with replacing the original population of the Europian countries with people from the third world!

    What about racism? The liberals and lefties are the biggest racist in modern times. Their anti-racism is just another word for anti-white!!!

  • MagyarViking

    Anonymous says:
    August 27, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    AGAIN AND AGAIN DIRTY MOUTHS PREVAIL. WHAT A SHAME THIS SITE IS NOT MONITORED.
    ===

    Géza says:
    August 27, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    is there some sencorship here?
    —-

    Well, maybe this site is a ‘honeypot’, designed to draw the most racist, fascist and pro-violence ideas out from the dark and make it easier for TEK to monitor it?

    Which then can be blamed on ‘foreign influence’ (this being a non-Hungarian site)

    That may the reason there is no real monitoring/censorship on this site
    The need to write J*w with a star instead of the e is just to make it look more legal

    So, pls just come on with all that racist/fascist rhetoric and make it easier for the guys in blue

    • procastinator

      Jew Jew Jews , oh my god look at me . not even one star ….

  • Focus on the bigger picture

    Pull up the sleeves, get in the thick of it. Open a proffesionaly and ethically run mom and pop shop, grow it to prosper. Employ the neighborhood that will support your products/service, etc. Demand from your elected officials the prorata share of revenues for constant social and infrastructure improvements. NEVER EVER GIVE UP.
    Rhetoric and BS are synonymous (used to not be). The more people that yell the less people will work, the farther a society gets behind. Better get going and just do it or in 50 years the word Magyar will only be a proper noun in history books.

  • Anonymous

    Simple Simon met a pie man onhis way to…….

  • Anonymous

    Said simple Simon to the pie man……

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