August 27th, 2012

Gárda sends police on wild-goose chase in Csókakő

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Police found their plans thwarted when they occupied Csókakő, Fejér county on Saturday to prevent an inauguration ceremony planned by the far-right Új Magyar Gárda.

The group had expected such a response and instead held its ceremony in Dunaföldvár.

Csókakő mayor György F rész told Népszabadság that he was informed around 11 p.m. Friday night that a huge number of police officers were arriving in the village. Police had not informed the mayor of their plans.

Police declared the area an operational zone and only allowed those into the village who could prove that they were local residents. Police left on Saturday afternoon.

The Új Magyar Gárda held its ceremony on private land, a former shooting range near Dunaföldvár, Tolna county.

Police showed up there and demanded the identity papers of about 50 people.

Jobbik president Gábor Vona wrote on his blog that police had committed an embarrassing, tragicomic mistake, perhaps the biggest screw-up by police in the past 20 years, adding that in a normal country the interior minister would lose his job.

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  • Aloof

    No doubt that Jobbik made Fidesz, the police and TEK look like incompetent fools on this one. Funny, sad, scary and pathetic all at the same time.

  • MagyarViking

    “Jobbik” has used this tactic before – announcing a public event and then ending up a private place, which then cannot be stopped, just harassed by the Police
    Was it in 2009?

  • olga

    @`Aloof

    the flipside is that JOBBIK was playing games at the taxpayer’s expense – total waste of money and resources

    When there is a “bomb scare” the authorities do not ignore it either, it’s their duty to protect the public if they have reasonable grounds to believe a threat exists.

    I am yet so see the police being blamed for a hoax so put the blame where it belongs and it ain’t the police nor FIDESZ.

    • Aloof

      Hi Olga,

      All I said was that Joobik made Fidesz, the police and TEK look like fools and they did. You don’t cordone off a city/village and harrass innocent residents and visitors unless “actionable intel” can be verified to justify the expense and veracity of sending that many cops to a place.

      Scary to think that a unit like TEK can so easily be misled. Jobbik has been playing a lot of games with Fidesz and they’re proving to be smarter than them, which does not bode well for Fidesz or Hungary.

    • Anonymous

      “if they have reasonable grounds to believe a threat exists” how telling that a Jobbik rally is assessed to be a threat to the public. Surely our fine new, shiny constitution does not allow threatening organisations to exist!!

      • Leto مؤدّب

        Paramilitary organizations, such as Jobbik’s Magyar Gárda, are a threat to the state. They should be much more harshly dealt with. I’d like to see massive arrests and jail sentences now.

        Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

        • Orban Legend

          “Paramilitary organizations, such as Jobbik’s Magyar Gárda, are a threat to the state”

          The “state” is a much more serious threat to the people.
          The criminals who run the state (MSZP or FIDESZ, no difference) are too busy to take advantage of the infinite patience of the people, and enjoy our lenient “no consequences” laws and loopholes.
          The Garda (unlike the police and criminal members of certain ethnic groups) don’t harrass, beat up and arrest people, don’t violate basic human rights.
          Demonstrations of disagreement with the government, and the death and destruction they represent should not be considered as illegal, unless we have a dictatorship, not democracy. The rule of Orban is just as corrupt and incompetent as the reign of Gyurcsany and his predecessors. I’d like to see “massive arrests and jail senteces” for Orban fans, like Leto and his corrupt or brainwashed friends.

  • Zicco

    Hungarians are sooooooo funny, whoohahahhaha!! Never a boring day in Hungary :)

  • olga

    @`Aloof

    IMHO which I know is subjective, you and Leto have something in common and that would be an inability to look at FIDESZ objectively.

    Re: “Scary to think that a unit like TEK can so easily be misled.” – it’s a no win situation for the gov’t. If they did not react JOBBIK would have gone to plan “A” which would have been a threat to the Roma in Csokako. Thus they waited until they saw the police move in and went to Plan “B” making TEK and the gov’t look like idiots (I assume it stand for for Hungarian Security or police) and then “do their thing” where it was unexpected.

    To Anon. who wrote : “Surely our fine new, shiny constitution does not allow threatening organisations to exist!!”

    For all I know, Hungary has the worst Constitution in the world because I am not a constitutional expert on any country’s Constitution.

    Having said that, name the country that has a Constitution you approve of and has no “threatening organizations”

    I was thinking that Canada has a good Constitution yet there was a ploy to kill certain politicians and cut off the PM”s head before the police moved in (reference “the Brampton 7″ )

    About never having a boring day in Hungary – yup, that’s why I need to read this website and also follow American politics because I don’t want to die of boredom reading only Canadian politics :) )

    • Leto مؤدّب

      @olga:
      “which would have been a threat to the Roma in Csókakő”

      No, this particular gathering was not about intimidating Gypsies. They chose Csókakő because there’s a Horthy-statue there.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

    • Aloof

      @Olga

      “If they did not react JOBBIK would have…” done what?

      The police and TEK (OV’s new secret service/anti-terrorist/border patrol/secret police and other duties as assigned toy) reacted to “chatter.” I don’t send 200-300 cops to lock down a town with tents, sleeping bags and barbeque grills and then harrass the locals because of “chatter.” I send a few cops over there to investigate what is actually/ physically going on.

      How many residents called the police that Jobbik was overrunning the town? No the police and TEK thought they had something based on “chatter” and all involved should down right embarrased about it. That’s a simple objective opinion and a correct one.

      I guarantee you that Jobbik is laughing and Fidesz is not.
      To be continued without a doubt…

      • Leto مؤدّب

        Surely it wasn’t “chatter only”. On the other hand it’s been an epic fail for the secret service.

        Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

    • Ma Jar

      Sometimes reading only Canadian politics can be very calming and is a form of meditation in print. We need to rest and slow down in this hectic world, so I, after reading comments on this site and watching the American political shows, and Quebec politics, I tune in to what the rest of Canada is doing and I fall asleep for it is so very calming.nteartr inen,

      • Ma Jar

        Revision: Disregard “nteartr inen” – my Puli accidently hit my keyboard.

  • Aloof

    Well you’re right, there were a couple of physical decoys roaming around to make them nervous but the size of their response was majorily due to the chatter. Ditto on the TEK failure. Someone’s ass is going to be in a sling for it too… I know this because I have 2 family members in the police who I called over the weekend.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      Some head chopping would be adequate indeed. I believe there will be some, after investigating the fiaco, but we won’t know… for obvious and understanable reasons.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

      • MagyarViking

        Where did ‘leto’ get this idea to urge in Latin for MSZP to be destroyed?

        From
        * 1673 when the English minister Anthony Ashley Cooper, 1st Earl of Shaftesbury revived the phrase in the form “Delenda est Carthago” in a famous speech before Parliament during the Third Anglo-Dutch War, comparing England to Rome and the Dutch Republic to Carthage?

        or
        * Ben Klassen, the founder of the anti-Semitic Church of the Creator, adopted the phrase for his movement, modifying it to Delenda est Judaica, “Judaism must be destroyed”?

  • wolfi

    Maybe all the sane people here should react to leto’s constant threats by declaring after each comment:

    Orbán’s rabid kutya aka leto should be …

    well, what are the alternatives:

    - destroyed
    - lobotomized
    - neutered/castrated (We’re still not sure about its sex – if it has got any at all …)
    - sent to a Vietnamese kitchen (they really like dog soup)
    - or just sent to a psychiatrist (preferably a gay J*w)

    I’m open for other ideas …

  • Bowen

    I’m not sure that lobotomizing, neutering or sending Leto to a psychiatrist would have any noticeable effect.

    So, I’d vote for having him humanely put down (for his own good), with an injection. Then we can bury him in the back garden.Or alternatively, we can put him in a bag with some stones and throw him in the river. I’m not sure which is kinder.

  • olga

    @ Leto and Aloof

    Ok, MEA Culpa

    this is what confused me : “Police found their plans thwarted when they occupied Csókakő, Fejér county on Saturday to prevent an inauguration ceremony planned by the far-right Új Magyar Gárda.”

    I thought they were celebrating the inauguration of the Uj Magyar Garda and then terrorize the Roma neighbourhood

    On the subject of my accusing the two of you of not being objective, it’s kinda the pot calling the kettle black because I completely equate JOBBIK with neo-Nazi thugs so
    if I ever read they did something honourable I would most likely find a way to negate it and look for some evil ulterior motive :) )

    • Magyar

      “if I ever read they did something honourable I would most likely find a way to negate it and look for some evil ulterior motive ”

      That says a lot about you, filthy liberal degenerate!

      Stay in Canada! Never step a foot in Hungary!!
      Remember -http://hungarianspectrum.wordpress.com/2012/08/17/a-hungarian-neo-nazis-threat-to-democratically-minded-hungarians-abroad/

      • Bowen

        Alternatively, we can put Leto in a bag with some stones, along with ‘Magyar’ and throw them both in the river.

        That’s probably the best solution, although it will probably environmentally pollute the river for a couple of months.

        • Fidesz representative

          ” That’s probably the best solution, although it will probably environmentally pollute the river for a couple of months.”
          Just like when the Arrow Cross threw the J@ws in the Danube?

          -http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Shoes_Danube_Promenade_IMGP1297.jpg

          Hypocrite…

  • Anti-Jobbo

    The other act of police incompetence was not arresting the garda who were marching around Hero’s Square in formation. There is a law against that in Hungary.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      As you yourself know very well, the police banned that demonstration but the court allowed it. That’s why they could march on Hero’s Square. Marching in formation in itself is not enough to arrest people and it would be ridiculous to make a law which would make marching in formation a crime.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

      • Anti-Jobbo

        Not all knowing idiot.

        Allowing the march is very different than marching in a military formation.

        There already is a crime against marching in military formation.

        “Ceterum censeo Fidesz delenda est”. “Ceterum censeo Jobbik delenda est”.

        • Leto مؤدّب

          “There already is a crime against marching in military formation”

          :D :D :D

          Look up the law passed in the May of 2011, baromarcú postcommie idiot.

          Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

  • olga

    @ Magyar

    re: “That says a lot about you, filthy liberal degenerate!”

    I wonder how many people post here under the name “Magyar” because one of you posted something about respecting other people’s opinions. Then again, maybe I misunderstood your posting and calling me a “filthy liberal degenerate” was just your way of showing respect.

    May I remind you that only a small percentage of Hungarians living in Hungary support JOBBIK or are you delusional like the idiot “get real” who now tells us Erdely is his backyard and he has “the key” – I expect he will invite us to his coronation as the King of Erdely any day now while you will convince yourself that JOBBIK “rules” and it’s up to you to decide who should and who should not enter Hungary. Wow!!!

    • Magyar

      Sorry Olga, but I am losing my patience. You are just so bigoted and ignorant.

    • Ma Jar

      Good solid well thought out comment Olga.

  • olga

    @ Magyar

    No hard feelings, us filthy liberal bigoted ignorant degenerates can be very understanding when they choose to be :) )

    • Magyar

      Olga, what you must realise is that Hungary is in a bad state.

      Magic is not going to fix it, but a hint of fascism will.

      The economy needs to be hammered into shape.
      The Society and culture need to be saved.

      Your hoky-poky stupid liberal ideas will not fix it, but Gömbös Gyula’s work plan will.

      -http://kuruc.info/r/9/43088/

      What a Great Man, R.I.P Mr Gömbös!!

  • DoubleH63

    @olga

    “the flipside is that JOBBIK was playing games at the taxpayer’s expense – total waste of money and resources”

    Hungarian Police: “The Jobbik made me do it!” according to Olga the Dumb.
    But there is more: a bomb scare [Jobbiks fault also.]

    “being blamed for a hoax”

    What hoax? I know about a big one, but for that I blame the J*ws and the people who serve them.

  • DoubleH63

    @Leto

    “Paramilitary organizations, such as Jobbik’s Magyar Gárda,”

    Do you even know what paramilitary organization means, or are you just parroting the Judeo-Bolshevik mantra.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      “Of, relating to, or being a group of civilians organized in a military fashion”

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

  • DoubleH63

    @olga “to plan “A” which would have been a threat to the Roma in Csokako”

    More wisdom from our Canadian political analyst and Antifa.

  • DoubleH63

    @Leto
    So it’s the mantra.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      So it’s the definition.

      My mantra is
      “Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est”.

  • DoubleH63

    @Leto

    We all know another guy on this site who got a mantra, ending all his post with it. You must have been pretty impressed by him.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      I simply realized it’s a good method against post forging. And my handle has been faked a lot recently.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

      • Fake of a fake

        Ceterum censeo FIDESZ delenda est.

        “Aki nem tud arabusul, ne beszéljen arabusul.”

        مؤدّب

      • Leto مؤدّب

        Yes, it’s an excellent method against post forging.

        I really hope Orban explodes from all the pork and donuts he’s been stuffing into his face recently.

        Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

        • Leto مؤدّب

          I forgot to mention that it’s an excellent method against post forging, because in my feeble little insect brain, the logic is that anyone who criticises Orban would never write anything bad about MSzP. Because in my little world, everything is simple and binary.

          Wow, I really hope Orban loses the ability to speak in the next few days. The Forint should really start to recover then.

          Ceterum censeo MSZP delenda est.

  • Leto مؤدّب

    Ceterum censeo Leto delenda est.

  • wolfi

    Since Orbán’s rabid kutya aka leto is most probably a neutrum, this is the correct version:

    leto delendum est!

  • spectator

    Leto اللوطي الغبية delendum est – just to make it clear for all.

  • olga

    @ Magyar

    re: \Olga, what you must realise is that Hungary is in a bad state.Magic is not going to fix it, but a hint of fascism will.\

    None of you really comes out and says so but WTF do you really want? Would slaughtering all Hungarian J*ews and all the Roma starting with the children qualify as \a hint of fascism\ ?

    • Magyar

      Only an idiot would associate Fascism with slaughtering “gypsies and J@ws”.

      Francos Spain was one of the safest places for J@ws during WW2.

  • Aloof

    @Magyar says: August 30, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    Francos Spain was one of the safest places for J@ws during WW2.

    Yeah sure asshole. So are you busy drawing up your lists for the militias yet? Keep talking your disgusting BS, you’re fooling no one.

    -http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/20/franco-gave-list-spanish-jews-nazis

  • Aloof

    @Magyar says: August 30, 2012 at 4:08 pm
    Francos Spain was one of the safest places for J*ws during WW2.

    Yeah sure asshole. So are you busy drawing up your lists for the militias yet? Keep talking your disgusting BS, you’re fooling no one.

    -http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jun/20/franco-gave-list-spanish-j*ws-nazis (need to change the asterisk to “e” to get to the link)

  • olga

    @ Magyar

    First of all I was not thinking of Franco and Spain and secondly the “jury is out” as far as his protecting Jews and unlike you I do not want to go back to WWII and debate it; I had the Iranian type fascism in mind since JOBBIK members seem in love with the country and waving its flag at football games.

    So how about if I rephrase the question to : “one of you really comes out and says so but WTF do you really want? Would slaughtering all Hungarian J*ews and all the Roma starting with the children ? ”

    While you are pondering that one, go to YouTube and listen to Christy Moore’s Viva la Quinta Brigada, Live at Barrowland Glasgow – I am sure you will love the song as much as I do

  • olga

    @ Magyar

    I forgot to edit my J. word with a * so it’s in moderation
    and it may or may not surface but in it I rephrased my original question and answered your allegation about Franco

    This was the last paragraph of the posting just in case you are in the mood for music:

    While you are pondering that one, go to YouTube and listen to Christy Moore’s Viva la Quinta Brigada, Live at Barrowland Glasgow – I am sure you will love the song as much as I do

    So sorry you think I am an idiot – try to be polite and use the word “blond” which is Double’s code word for a moron, idiot, etc. I’ll start worrying when you think of me as “smart”

    • MAGYAR GÁRDA READY!

      Hey Olga, what do you make of this?

      -http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/582747_124170277718102_1009770423_n.jpg

  • olga

    Hey MG Ready

    What do I make of this?

    That you ought to check out the information about David Dees Illustrations on the Internet and read the article with the headline \Political Artist & Rense Illustrator David Dees forced to leave Sweden\

    • Viking

      olga says:
      August 31, 2012 at 6:15 am

      read the article
      —

      Actually I tried to
      Gives you some insight into a person with some serious mental problems
      It is on the border you start to question if it is just a hoax, or just a way of getting attention
      The latter he obviously succeeded with

  • Aloof

    @ MAGYAR GÁRDA READY! says: August 31, 2012 at 1:18 am

    Well… David Dees is an agent provocatuer like the Garda are. So there’s nothing to make of it except to accept it for what it is, nothing.

    So you’re ready to defend the “Kiralysag” that has no kiraly eh? What do you make of that?

  • olga

    @ Viking

    re: “Gives you some insight into a person with some serious mental problems” – that’s why I posted it and you must admit that Paranoia and Conspiracy theories are always a great combination.

    How horrific, and beyond comprehension but we do not need “artistic interpretation” to see dead children’s photos being taken in Syria some of them with pacifiers in their mouths.

    • MagyarViking

      olga says:
      August 31, 2012 at 3:13 pm

      Paranoia and Conspiracy theories are always a great combination
      —

      Especially combined with bike thefts as proof of “The Bad Government Is After Me!”

      How can you argue against that?

  • olga

    @ Viking

    too bad only his bike was stolen instead of his paint brushes.

    btw , I got the impression that the MG Ready poster thought the picture was a photograph when he brought it to my attention.

    In bygone days, Winterhalter was appointed as a court painter so I was thinking Vona could appoint David Dees as the official JOBBIK painter and with his earnings he could buy a new bike and afford medication for “calming his nerves” Moreover, he would not have to peddle “his art” on the Internet

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