September 3rd, 2012

Hungary condemns Safarov pardon in diplomatic note

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Parliamentary State Secretary of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Zsolt Nemeth summoned Azerbaijan’s Ambassador to Hungary Vilayat Guliyev into his office on Sunday to hand over a diplomatic note and inform the ambassador that Hungary considers it unacceptable that Ramil Sahib Safarov, who was sentenced for manslaughter by a Hungarian court, received pardon from the President of Azerbaijan.

The foreign ministry sent a copy of the diplomatic note to MTI on Sunday afternoon.

The document shows that Hungary’s government had learnt with shock about the decision of the Azerbaijani side to grant pardon to Safarov, who was sentenced to life imprisonment for manslaughter in 2006.

“Hungary refuses to accept and condemns the action of Azerbaijan, which contradicts the relevant rules of international law and sharply contrasts the undertaking of the Azerbaijani side in this matter, confirmed by the Deputy Minister of Justice of the Republic of Azerbaijan in his letter XX-NBSKFO/3743/4/2012 of 15 August 2012 addressed to the Ministry of Public Administration and Justice of Hungary,” the document said.

According to the ministry, in this letter Azerbaijan quoted the relevant international Convention and undertook that the sentenced person would serve the remaining part of his prison sentence in Azerbaijan and may be released on conditional parole only after at least 25 years.

“Hungary regards the decision of Azerbaijan inconsistent with the spirit of cooperation based on mutual trust that has been achieved during the past years between our respective countries,” the note added.

Safarov was convicted in Hungary for murdering Armenian fellow-soldier Gurgen Margaryan with an axe in 2004 in Budapest. On returning to Azerbaijan on Friday, Safarov requested and got a pardon from his country’s president Ilham Aliyev. Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan said in Yerevan later in the day that Armenia had decided to break diplomatic ties with Hungary.

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  • Aloof

    The real shock for Fidesz is the realization that Azerbijan may stiff them in regards to the 2-3 billion euros. I sincerely hope that they do.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      No surprise that you wish Hungary would be preyed on by your IMF jackal buddies.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

    • Anonymous

      Up yours Aloofusz.

    • Anonymous

      A LOOFasz? yes its him and he is back again…….

  • MagyarViking

    This note, which was not very smart if the aim of all the repatriation was to get up to 3 BEUR from the Azeris, is another example on the panic in Fidesz

    Probably The Supreme Leader realized that it was not so accepted to sell criminals for money, so it was better to make the payment politically impossible for the Azeris

    So The Supreme Leader ended up in a typical ‘lose-lose’ situation, by no others doing but Himself, then He and His close allies negotiated directly with the Azeris about this. Now Fidesz looks just like the amateurs they really are, losing both the diplomatic honour and the dirty money attached to this diplomatic disgrace

  • wolfi

    I’m just wondering how leto will handle this – he’s probably hard at work trying to find an excuse for the actions of the Hungarian government.

    IT’ll be funny to see with what he comes up – or not …

    PS: The whole atrocity is so unbelievable!

    • Leto مؤدّب

      I think this case is an example of how professional Fidesz works. Our ministers have done everything by the book and international rules. It is not the fault of the Hungary that the Azerbaijan government has gone rogue and didn’t respect the deal. If you read the international press, you would understand that nobody blames the Hungarian government in this case. Our ministries get a lot of praise for the way they reacted very calmly to the Armenian provocations.

      • MagyarViking

        Leto مؤدّب says:
        September 3, 2012 at 11:19 am

        Our ministries get a lot of praise for the way they reacted very calmly to the Armenian provocations
        —

        Quotes pls

        Personally I do not think this is a genuine post, more in the line of ‘White George’…

        • Zicco

          I always thought that White George was Leto on Prozac. Pity he disappeared. I guess Leto ran out of medication which led to the killing of his alter ego.

      • Leto مؤدّب

        Fake post.

        Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

        • Zicco

          And your genuine comments are… ?

        • Anonymous

          hey spado:muliebris patientiae scortum

      • PWT

        Professional, Leto?

        Yeah, they followed the international protocol for a prisoner transfer, a transfer of an ax murderer which the transferring country was under absolutely no obligation to make.

        But this was no simple prisoner transfer, it was a contractual sale, requiring consideration. Among “professionals” the exchange of the goods and the money has to take place simultaneously, if you pick up your car from a repo man, the keys and cash get exchanged at the same time. The prisoner’s now been transfered, but now the transferring party has no leverage to insure payment. Not professional, incompetent.

        Yes incompetent, and now they’ve made a dog’s breakfast of the Hungarian justice system as well: you would, at the very least, think that a government which styles itself as conservative would not tolerate people who visit their country and murder people with an ax, but prefer that such animals spend the rest of their lives behind bars.

  • Tamasz

    Novruz Mammadov, head of the foreign relations department of the Presidential Administration of Azerbaijan, told Newtimes.az in an interview on 1 September that “steps to extradite Ramil Safarov to Azerbaijan were taken in a completely closed environment. Secret talks have been held under the serious control of President of Azerbaijan for about a year.”

    He noted that President Ilham Aliyev “supervised the negotiations between the law enforcement agencies of Azerbaijan and Hungary for a long time.”

    “A crucial role in the resolution of this issue belonged to an agreement reached during the visit of the Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban,” Mammadov was cited as saying.

    ———–

    If Orban played an active role in this debacle, then he should resign immediately, just like Schmitt, this other Fidesz cheater.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      Yeah, yeah, he should resign. :) That’s the wettest dream of your rotten postcommie ilk all the time.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Tamasz

        Postcommie? I was a Fidesz believer once. Now I’m a political nihilist.

        • Leto مؤدّب

          And I was the Roman pope once.

          Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Viking

        So Gyurcsány was correct refusing to resign when Fidesz demanded that all the time?

        Both Hungarian PMs, in different ways, made Hungary look bad internationally, but Hungarian PMs never resign to take responsibility for their mistakes, do they?

  • Aloof

    No surprise that you support an incompetent, naive and immoral low life scumbag like OV. No way he can take that money now. So he screwed up the one thing that could have helped him avoid the IMF for now. What a friggin’ asshole loser.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      You wrote above you hope Hungary wouldn’t be saved by the Azeri oil money. Now you write Hungary cannot take this money now because OV screwed it up.
      So your judgement is guided and determined by your hopes. Like it’s often the case.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

    • Anonymous

      Aloofusz neked.

  • Aloof

    Uhhhis is what I wrote… so comment on it:

    No surprise that you support an incompetent, naive and immoral low life scumbag like OV. No way he can take that money now. So he screwed up the one thing that could have helped him avoid the IMF for now. What a friggin’ asshole loser.

    And I absolutely do hope that Hungary would NEVER stoop so low as to accept blood money from ANYBODY. OV was sacrificing Hungary’s honor for a little money. I have absolutely no respect for that jerk off.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      No, what you wrote first was that you sincerely hope “Azerbijan should stiff Hungary in regards to the 2-3 billion euros”.

      BTW, the UK stooped lower for less three years ago. The stake for Hungary is to avoid the deadly IMF grip.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Viking

        Leto مؤدّب says:
        September 3, 2012 at 12:39 pm

        The stake for Hungary is to avoid the deadly IMF grip
        —

        If so, why do this very public condemnation?
        That will make it very hard politicly for the Azerian President to go on with this back-room deal to buy up to 3 BEUR Hungarian Bonds

        Some one is not playing His cards very clever, no?

      • Zeb

        Actually it was Scottish government who repatriated the Libyan for compassionate reasons, not the British Government who was allegedly on his death bed, and after Gadaffi had paid compensation to the victims. Compensation of well over 2 billion USD which went to the families of the victims.

        I suppose the Azeri money would just have gone towards digging another hole in Petofi Sandor u and Becsi u in district V just for some poor workers to fill it in again a few days later.

        In any case you cannot compare these two cases as like for like.

        The simple fact is that Orban has been played like a gypsy fiddle. There is no history of parliamentary democracy in living memory and all those pretending to be representatives of their voters are a bunch of fucking amateurs. It’s hardly surprising shit like this happens

        • Leto مؤدّب

          Scotland is not an independent country (yet). So it was the UK government which did that transaction. The two cases are very similar from many points of view.

          • Viking

            But not from the *most* important point related to real-politk, that Libya was not in conflict with its neighbour and that the release would not be the start of a destabilization process in that region

            That is why both the EU, the US and Russia are complaining on not *only* the Azeris, but also on Hungary

            And the Lockerbie-bomber was terminally ill with cancer and died of that, 3 years later instead of 3 months
            Not the first time the doctors been wrong pinpointing any patients time of future death and may be a proof that a change of scenery can have a positive effect even on terminally ill patients
            Try self to stay alive as long as possible in a prison convicted for life – what is the point?

            In the Lockerbie-case there were obviously ‘compassionate reasons’, where are those in this sordid deal about buying Hungarian State Bonds for 2-3 BEUR?

          • Viking

            And actually, it was the Scottish Government that set the Lockerbie-bomber free

            “The Scottish Government is responsible in Scotland for all issues that are not explicitly reserved to the United Kingdom Parliament at Westminster by Schedule 5 of the Scotland Act 1998; such devolved matters include NHS Scotland, education, justice and policing, rural affairs, economic development and transport”

            So, that Downing street was asked about their opinion does not matter – that release was a strict devolved matter, then it concerned “justice and policing”

            There was no prison transfer, then he was “released by the Scottish government on compassionate grounds”

            Orban did not release this Azirian criminal – that was a prison transfer

            So, where are the similarities?

        • Californicus

          Al-Megrahi’s transfer could not have been accomplished without the consent of the UK. Scotland does not have diplomatic relations with anyone, being a state within a state. Never seen an embassy of California in your country, have you?

          • Viking

            Californicus says:
            September 3, 2012 at 6:08 pm

            Al-Megrahi’s transfer could not have been accomplished without the consent of the UK
            —

            Of course it could, then the Scottish Government and Parliament are responsible for “justice and policing” in Scotland and the Lockerbie-killer got convicted according to Scottish Law, not UK Law

            And there was no prison transfer, the the Scottish Government *released* him, not like the Orban Government, who sent over a criminal to continue his penalty in Azerbaijan

            That is legally an ocean between these two cases

            And Scotland do have Scottish Pounds, not English bastard-money…
            Have you ever seen a Californian Dollar?

    • Anonymous

      A LOOFasz….

  • Aloof

    What a friggin’ pussy you are, really. Divert, denial and fingerpoint; all tried and true traits of Fidesz flunky losers like you.
    This was a friggin’ diplomatic disaster no matter how much you want dance around it.

    I have no problems with Hungary doing business with whoever wants to do business with them but this wasn’t type of business I was talking about.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      Of course you have a (big) problem with Hungary doing business if this aims to avoid the IMF sharks.

      A while ago you demonstrated this spectacularly when I said the Russian, Chinese, Brazilian, Arabic and whichever card plays against IMF and what they want.

      • Aloof

        Jesus you can’t even read anymore you’re so convoluted. Fidesz are lousy card players they prove it everyday.

        • Leto مؤدّب

          Id imperfectum manet dum confectum erit.

          Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

        • Anonymous

          A LOOFasz

  • Farrukh

    Hi to everyone!! Sorry for interrupting your discussions,just want to add something. Please compare for what and how has been charge Safarov, and then compare it with Breivik case…Double standarts??? Is it justice??
    Thanks to Hungury for sending him back but the rest is our internal business.
    p.s. please check in the internet how many armenian(for example) terrorist have been given freedom by several countries,the last one in France after bomb blowing in Orly’s airport(rance) in 2001

  • olga

    @ Farrukh

    The Breivik case and Safarov’s sentence are irrelevant

    The only relevant matter is that Azerbaijan broke the terms of an International Treaty and the only positive part I see in this very sad event for Armenians is that so many people on this website had the opportunity to express their blind hatred for various nations and neighbours.

    Double must be on vacation, haven’t heard how it was somehow I*srael’s fault that this criminal was set free or that the ax murderer was actually a gypsy pretending to be an Azerbaijani

    • Anonymous

      To Olga: Olga, Olga, Olga your last paragraph is ridiculous, not typically Olga – or is it?

  • Anonymous

    The Washington Post
    “Russia’s Foreign Ministry, an important broker in the Armenian-Azerbaijani feud, condemned Safarov’s release in a statement Monday, saying that it hampers Russia and other international mediators’ peace-keeping efforts.

    “We believe that these actions of Azerbaijani as well as Hungarian authorities contradict internationally brokered efforts, of the OSCE’s Minsk group in particular, to ease tensions in the region,” the ministry said.

    The White House also criticized the decision to free Safarov.

    Pfffffffff…how isolated can you be?

  • Viking

    olga says:
    September 3, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    The only relevant matter is that Azerbaijan broke the terms of an International Treaty
    —

    The flip-side of this is *_HOW_* Orban can really have believed they would have kept their promise?
    Making politics is not a question of legality, that we have lawyers and Judges for

    Politics is the quest of performing the impossible, not just trusting everyone around you
    And then blaming those people when it all back-fires

    To return a convicted criminal in a typical hate-crime to one of the two countries involved in this conflict, where the same country has claimed *_OFFICIALLY_* this convicted criminal is a hero?

    To hide behind arguments on ‘legality’ and ‘others done the same’ (like ‘leto’ do) has nothing to do with politics to do, only imbecility

    If you do not want to believe your big neighbour in the South, maybe you can read what the Russian Foreign Ministry is officially saying:
    ““The statement on granting pardon to Azerbaijani military serviceman R. Safarov and the Hungarian authorities’ decision to extraditing him to Azerbaijan were received with deep concern in Russia, which is an OSCE Minsk Group Co-Chair along the lines of the settlement of the [Nagorno-]Karabakh conflict.

    We also anticipate for the Co-Chairs to soon make a respective assessment on the created situation,” Russian MFA official representative Alexander Lukashevich’s statement specifically reads.”

    At least Orban got the US and the Russians to agree on something…so maybe Orban should get the Nobel Peace Prize for 2012?

    • Viking

      forgot the link:
      -http://news.am/eng/news/119435.html

    • Anonymous

      “Orban got the US and the Russians to agree on something”

      It’s an agreement on their interests.

      1. Armenia is a poodle to the Russians.
      2. The US is deeply annoyed by Orban’s attempts to evade IMF.

      • Pete H.

        Look at a map and you’ll understand why the US is deeply concerned. It has nothing to do with forcing Hungary to rely on the IMF.

        The US and Russia have been in long-term negations with Armenia and Azerbaijan to broker an agreement over territorial disputes. OV’s incompetence has made success in those negotiations unlikely and has increased the probability of a regional conflict in Iran’s neighborhood.

        This is why both Russia and the US are alarmed by OV’s amateurism and the insertion of Hungary into a regional conflict.

        OV wanted to turn to the east. He did and ended with the equivalent of pissing into a fan.

        • Anonymous

          You should look at the map. The US must be glad that the Russian-friendly Armenian regime got a big political blow and Azerbaijan’s Turkish(NATO)-friendly regime got a big political boost. Orban may have made an actual deal with the US in fact!

          • Pete H.

            “Orban may have made an actual deal with the US in fact!”

            I have some tinfoil for your hat.

            Russia and the US were in joint negotiations. Get it? They were partners in trying to broker a peace accord.

          • Anonymous

            Yeah, got it. In the meantime there’s an escalating proxy war going on in Syria between the US and Russia.

          • Pete H.

            The Syria war is not a proxy war between the US and Russia. Russian and US interests may differ regarding Syria, but to suggest it is a proxy war is total nonsense.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            I see Reuters writes total nonsense. :)

            “Analysis: No happy outcome in Syria as conflict turns into proxy war”
            -http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/01/us-syria-crisis-scenario-idUSBRE8700S420120801

          • Leto مؤدّب

            “US Authorizes Financial Support For the Free Syrian Army”

            -http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2012/al-monitor/us-authorizes-financial-support.html

            Interestingly there’s a whole Wikipedia article on Russia’s role. :D
            -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia%27s_role_in_the_Syrian_civil_war

          • Pete H.

            Do you even read the articles you post links to?

            “After almost 17 months of revolt against the Assad dictatorship, Syria’s conflict is turning into a regional proxy war between Sunni and Shi’ite Islam that could splinter the country along sectarian lines unless a unified rebel leadership emerges as a credible opposition to the beleaguered government.”

            Neither the US or Russia are mentioned in the Reuter’s article.

            How is this a proxy war between US and Russia? Proxy wars by definition are wars fought in a third nation supported by two opposing nations. Russia and the US may not have a perfect relationship, but they hardly in a state of conflict. Vietnam was a proxy war between US and communist nations. The Syrian civil war is not a proxy war between the US and Russia.

            Once again, the US and Russia are partners in trying to negotiate a peace between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

            You tried to look clever Leto, but just ended up doing the opposite.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            The US supports various armed groups in various ways. For example the so-called Free Syrian Army. (see my link above)
            They’d gladly send lotsa weapons, too. Their only concern is that “such weapons could fall into the hands of al-Qaeda or Hamas”
            See this interview in February with Ms. Clinton: -http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-57385418-503543/hillary-clinton-assad-regime-dishonors-syria/
            However, having seen developments since then, probably this is a stale issue.

          • Pete H.

            The US supporting the free-syrian army does not make this a proxy war between Russia and the US. Again, the US and Russia are not in a state of conflict, so regardless of which side each party supports, this is not a proxy war between them.

            As the Reuter’s article you posted a link to states, this is a proxy war between Sunni and Shi’ite Islam.

            Ca’t you just say you were wrong and that this is not a proxy war between the US and Russia? You can keep posting articles that show the US and Russia support different players in the conflict, but unless you can support the idea that the US and Russia are in a state of conflict you can not call this a proxy war. The US and Russia are not enemies, so you can not.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            No, I can’t. That’s because there’s clearly a proxy war going on in Syria with the US on one side and Russia on the other side. It’s not so direct or intense, of course, like the Korean or the Vietnamese wars were.

          • Viking

            Of course and Saudi-Arabia and Iran are just up US’ and Russia’s pockets…

          • Pete H.

            Since you like Wiki so much. Here is the definition from there.

            “A proxy war or proxy warfare is a war that results when opposing powers use third parties as substitutes for fighting each other directly. While powers have sometimes used governments as proxies, violent non-state actors, mercenaries, or other third parties are more often employed. It is hoped that these groups can strike an opponent without leading to full-scale war.”

            The US and Russia are not using Syria as a substitute to fight each other. The US and Russia are not opposing powers. The US is not trying to strike against Russia and Russia is not trying to strike against the US. The cold war is over. It’s time for you to catch up.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            It fits the definition quite well. The US and Russia are rival powers, they are far from being indifferent or friendly to each other. And Russia is already more or less back to the game… after the Soviet Union was defeated in the cold war.

            The US is trying to get rid of Assad’s regime and Russia is trying to keep Assad in power. Both countries do that by military, financial and other kind of support. They’ve got a strong conflict of interest and this way they fight each other.

          • Viking

            So what has Syria to do with Orban’s fuck-up with both Armenia and Azerbaijan?

  • DoubleH63

    @Anonymous

    “Olga your last paragraph is ridiculous”

    Wrong. Her whole comment is ridiculous.

    Azerbaijan did not brake any term of any kind of International Treaty.
    But she should be forgiven – she relies on her crystal ball as a legal analyst. [Maybe she should have asked her old friend Krisztina Morvai prior to hitting the submit button.]

    The thoughts in the last paragraph are the symptoms of too much coffee flooding her brain. [In extreme cases she usually marches around her house with Gypsy crystal ball in hand and kipa (picked up at Tesco) on her head – mimicking the brainwashed goy crowd in Berlin.]

  • Independent

    What kind of Viking is getting updated from armenian news portals…? Stop covering your real face you little khay ;-)

  • olga

    @ Double

    That’s hilarious – I was just posting about my crystal ball and you are right about \too much coffee\ so I am wondering if you have a crystal ball as well.

    re: \Azerbaijan did not brake any term of any kind of International Treaty.\

    would you mind explaining that one?

    • Anonymous

      @Double
      I took issue only with Olga’s last paragraph. Obviously you are more into nursery rhymes.

  • Anonymous

    YEREVAN — Armenia warned Azerbaijan it was ready for war as tensions soared Monday between the ex-Soviet foes after Baku pardoned and promoted an Azerbaijani officer who axed an Armenian soldier to death.

    Viktor Orbán sold the honor of Hungary and may be the cause of a war.

    VO should resign!

    • Californicus

      Don’t be stupid. This news article can’t be blamed for you moving your fingers to type your comments. The choice was all yours to make.

    • Anonymous

      Orbán just needs to say “Oops” and it will fix itself.

    • Aloof

      Oh yeah… check out yahoo bud and there’s more. Way to go Vik…

      Armenia warned Azerbaijan it was ready for war as tensions soared Monday between the ex-Soviet foes after Baku pardoned and promoted an Azerbaijani officer who axed an Armenian soldier to death.

      Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev last week immediately pardoned Ramil Safarov after he was extradited from Hungary, where he had been serving a life sentence for the 2004 killing.

      Safarov was also promoted to the rank of major, given a house and eight years’ worth of back-pay after returning home to a hero’s welcome, in defiance of assurances from Baku to Budapest that he would serve out his term in Azerbaijan. “We don’t want a war, but if we have to, we will fight and win. We are not afraid of killers, even if they enjoy the protection of the head of state,” Armenian President Serzh Sarkisian fumed in a statement late on Sunday.
      “They (Azerbaijanis) have been warned,” he said, calling Azerbaijan a country where “illicit orders set free and publicly glorify every bastard who kills people only because they are Armenians”.

  • Californicus

    This can only result in one solution: Hungary must break off diplomatic relations with Azerbaijan. Only by cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face can anyone show they are sincere in taking offense.

    • Anonymous

      Hungary must break off diplomatic relations with Azerbaijan. 2-3 billion euros????

  • MagyarViking

    Independent says:
    September 3, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    What kind of Viking is getting updated from armenian news portals…? Stop covering your real face you little khay
    —

    The quote came from the Russian Foreign Ministry – Is it untrue?
    That the Armenians are collecting anything negative to say about this deal is not surprising
    And I do not claim that this quote or the source was “independent” – it was presented as the Russian Foreign Ministry, so what?

    Are you like ‘leto’ – calling Stalin’s old broadcaster for ‘independent’ or is it Fidesz or is it Azerbaijan?

    Pls advice us where to find ‘independent’ information, with that handle you should really know…

  • Farrukh

    Armenia has warned Azerbaijan))))))))))))))) Funny)))) There are no russion troops supporting separatists anymore like it was in 1990-s and Azerbaijan doesn’t fight for it independence with Soviet Union like it was( and faced unexpected war).Now Azerbaijan is prepared and much better that Armenia.
    FYI there are 30 000 armenians live in Baku(capital) oficially,mostly women, but… ask armenians how many azeries live in Yerevan???…

  • zeb

    Orban tried to play a clever game here as this note to the Azeries is nothing but a “straw man” and a distraction to try and admonish the Azeris when in fact they have not done anything wrong. The curious thing is that Orban probably knows this all too well and has pitted different Ministries against each other in order to keep his own hands clean. How so? Well everybody is focusing on the Article 9 of the Convention which was quoted in the letter by the Azeris, however scroll down a little further in the Convention to Article 12 which states:
    Article 12 – Pardon, amnesty, commutation

    Each Party may grant pardon, amnesty or commutation of the sentence in accordance with its Constitution or other laws.

    Orban must have known this, and it basically gave a loophole to the Azeris to do as they wished with their man, as they never promised NOT to pardon their man.

    Furthermore it appears that the Hungarian Ministry of Foreign affairs is picking up the shit from the Hungarian Ministry of Administration and Justice who initiated the negotiations for the Azeri repatraition. It took Foreign Affairs two days to respond to the scandal, possibly because they didn’t know what the fuck was going on.

    In any case it must have been the man at the top who signed off on the deal.

    So where does that leave us:
    Attempted loan from the Chinese: fail
    Attempted loan from the Saudis: fail
    Attempted purchase of bonds from the Azeris: probable fail

    I completely understand why VO doesn’t want to go to the IMF for a loan, but these alternative financing methods do not seem to be working very well.

    P.S. Did anyone see the video of VO in Parliament on August 20 when state awards were being given out? Is a man licking his lips in such a strange manner the sign of a man on some pretty serious medication? Just a question.

    • Anna

      I was thinking the same when I saw Orban licking his lips and rolling his eyes. I guess he’s on amphetamines most of the time.

      • Leto مؤدّب

        Ah, yes, and he’s being treated in an Austrian mental asylum, too.

        F***king moron.

        • Dieter

          Yes, everybody knows that here. Just like everybody knew that Jörg Haider was gay.

      • Paul

        September 4, 2012 at 9:59 am

        I was thinking the same when I saw Orban licking his lips and rolling his eyes. I guess he’s on amphetamines most of the time.
        How cheap can you be?

        • Anonymous

          Stupid writing.

          • Zoltan

            I don’t think Orban would pass a drug test. Have you seen how fat he has become, like he’s on steroids and langos diet. The ugly twin brother of Adrian Annus but without the muscles.

    • spectator

      “Attempted purchase of bonds from the Azeris: probable fail”

      Even if we counting with the possibilities of a smoke-screen
      - as is Azerbaijan will invest against all, using some intermediary measures – this statement pretty much answers to that question:

      http://www.oilfund.az/en_US/news/786/100/Official-Statement-of-the-State-Oil-Fund-of-the-Republic-of-Azerbaijan.asp

      Now we have only two options:

      1 – The Hungarian government consist only a bunch of extremely stupid dilettantes, who has no idea what on Earth they dealing with, clearly unfit to their posts!

      2 – The Hungarian government consist an immoral bunch of criminals, who thinks that doing business with a mob, or anybody on any way is a right thing, as long as it pays – clearly unfit to govern anywhere west of Mount Ural.

      Conclusively:
      - Are the Hungarian government stupid, or criminal?

  • wolfi

    Really ?

    So who is his Doppelgänger – the great leto himself ?

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