September 12th, 2012

Orbán: Consequences of Safarov transfer was “not unexpected”

Prime Minister Viktor Orban said on Tuesday that he himself had made the decision to hand over the Azeri axe murderer to his native Azerbaijan, and the ensuing events had not been unexpected.

Orban told a press conference that “nothing happened after our decision we did not expect”.

The prime minister was responding to an article published by news website origo.hu, which said that Orban had ordered the transfer of Ramil Safarov with full knowledge that the convict would be released in his homeland sooner or later.

Orban said the government, including all relevant ministries, had been involved in the decision rather than the ruling Fidesz party. But ultimately he had approved the decision, “naturally, as always”.

He said the foreign ministry had foresaw exactly the type of consequences of such a decision.

Orban said in parliament on Monday that the government decision on Safarov’s repatriation had been fair and in line with international law. He rejected accusations that financial considerations had been in the background of the decision.

The main opposition Socialists have called for a full disclosure of all documents pertaining to Safarov’s transfer. These documents have been made available to members of a constitutional parliamentary committee. The ombudsman also asked for a comprehensive report.

The topic of the repatriation of the Azeri axe murderer to his native Azerbaijan was taken off the agenda of the parliamentary national security committee’s Tuesday session at the initiative of ruling Fidesz deputy Mate Kocsis.

The report on Ramil Safarov’s transfer was removed from the agenda of the session at Kocsis’s initiative on the ground that the affair did not carry any national security risk.

Kocsis said the committee would only deal with the issue if the foreign affairs and human rights committees discussed the transfer and identified any such risk.

After the session, Janos Lazar, head of the Prime Minister’s Office, rejected news website origo.hu’s information that the issue had been discussed at a recent Fidesz board session. He said that Prime Minister Viktor Orban had not given any kind of instruction to transfer Safarov, nor had he been in a position to.

Safarov, sentenced to life imprisonment for killing an Armenian in Budapest in 2004, was transferred from Hungary to Azerbaijan on August 31. On arrival in Baku, he was pardoned by the president and released. Armenia suspended diplomatic relations with Hungary later that day.

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  • Barbour

    Another day, some other lies by this wanna-be dictator.
    ☭IfOrbantoldthetruthforonedayhisworldwouldfallapart☭

  • Aloof

    Prime Minister Viktor Orban said on Tuesday that he himself had made the decision to hand over the Azeri axe murderer to his native Azerbaijan, and the ensuing events had not been unexpected.

    Riiiight… so he deliberately risked Hungary’s honor, tarnished Hungay’s name and standing in the world, compromised Hungary’s christian morality, created the perception that Hungary is not to be trusted, risked elevating an international regional conflict in a powder keg area of the world, expected Armenia to cut off diplomatic relations, knew he would piss off the EU/IMF, USA, Russia, Turkey, Israel and Iran plus this decision had nothing to do with money or promises of it.

    So for the 13th day and the 31st time then WHY did he do it?
    This POS needs to be held accountable for this by Hungarians, if they don’t then they’re going to get what they deserve, isolation and Hungarians are people not to be trusted.

  • El dud-o-wich

    Wannabe?
    If he can deside that single-handedly and have it excecuted without going thru parliament parliament etc etc he’s a full blown dictator…
    Man! God help the hungarians – since apparently they cannot help themselves….

  • MagyarViking

    But, if now everything happened to PimpMaster Whorban’s oh so elaborate plan, WHY The Fuck accuse the Azerbaijan Government of cheating the Hungarians?

    Obviously the Azeris, now, never cheated PimpMaster Whorban, so then PimpMaster Whorban lied, when He said that the Azeris cheated Him…

    From day one PimpMaster Whorban have not have a faintest clue what would happen, these repeated change of tactic is just shows that they have not a clue were to go from here in this issue

  • Paul

    “The ombudsman also asked for a comprehensive report.”…??? Written by who?

    • Leto مؤدّب

      By the government, of course.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Paul

        A board of inquiry maybe? Hearing people involved under oath?

        • MagyarViking

          According to my understanding (‘leto’ can surely confirm/deny) the Hungarian Parliament has got more stronger powers for different committees investigating whatever they want to investigate

          Not likely this will happen under this regime with anything remotely connected to the current majority in the Parliament, but there will soon be another Parliament
          If that Parliament can gather enough votes for such an investigation, then we may know a bit more and there may even be criminal charges for ‘Abuse of office’ or something similar

          All these powers were originally installed to be use against the MSZP, but that has not really worked out, so far, but Fidesz has still 18 months to ban the opposition

          • Paul

            What true democracies do in these situations. But….Hungary….I guess not.

          • Paul

            ‘leto’ can surely confirm/deny…Leto will not I guess.

  • David

    As far as megalomaniacs go he is top of the pile. He says our and us but at the end it is all Me Me Me. Like any coke addled mine it will not take sound advice from its own advisors. We are told that the country will not benefit from the release of the axe murderer. Did he make a deal just for himself? Or is it all just more lies. Hungo = Sucker

  • Barbour

    There are many sick minds in politics nowadays, but Orban definitely has the sickest. We may just be happy that he was not in power 70 years ago, with his total lack of respect for human life he would probably have been worse than Hitler, Mussolini, Mao and Stalin combined.

  • Paul

    Well either Viktor will be deleted by the EU, Berlusconi style….or by Fidesz itself, my guess is both…and soon. VO is a security risk. We can not have that.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      Well, you’ve been having those wet dreams yet again. :D

      BTW, who is that “we”? ;) FYI, it’s the Hungarian voters who decide about the Hungarian prime minister. For more information, please check out the poll tracker on this site and follow the news about the results of by-elections held in Hungary since 2010.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

    • Magyar

      Wow Paul, you are a shining example of demokracy, sicko.

      • Paul

        sicko…from someone like you….neo-nazi….it is a compliment. Thanks.

        • Magyar

          So to promote demokracy, you want to illegaly overthrow a legally and demokratically goverment? Why? What right does the EU have to do it?

          • Paul

            Democrats should delete wannabe dictators..that is all.

          • Magyar

            I think demokrats like VO should delete anti demokracy consporators like you.

          • Paul

            Consporators….Conspirators you mean….pro democracy though.

          • Magyar

            You are trying to undermime our demokracy.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            @Paul:

            And “you”, not the voters by any chance!, define who democrats are.
            That’s brilliant. :D

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

          • Paul

            “You are trying to undermime our demokracy”….no I support democracy in Hungary….Checks and Balances!

          • Magyar

            I am not a great fan of demokracy either, but I enjoy pointing out your hypocrisy.

            The majority of Hungarians want a strong leader who they can cheer at.

          • Paul

            I am not a great fan of demokracy either…you are not…I am “Checks and Balances!

          • Leto مؤدّب

            @Paul:

            You’re actually only a hypocrite.

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Leto مؤدّب

        This kind of views is absolutely typical of postcommie supporters in Hungary (MSZP/SZDSZ/Gyurcsány’s party, etc.). Apparently it’s not an unknown attitude in the Netherlands either. Their ‘reasoning’ goes like: “we” are EU (or whatever, it could be the US, too) and “we” are going to define who is democratic and who is not and “we are going to delete Hungary’s prime minister”. And the Hungarian voters can stuff it. Yes, indeed. “We” are democratic and “they” are not.

        Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

        • Barbour

          Fidesz got 2,729,327 votes on a total of 7,972,568 voters, meaning that 2/3 of the people living in this country does NOT back this whoring party.

          • Magyar

            Well maybe they should have voted against it if they dont like it ffs

            If they sit on their hands and do nothing, thats their problem.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Unfortunately your post needs a number of corrections, you rotten postcommie bastard:

            Fidesz-KDNP got 2,706,292 votes out of 5,172,222 votes, meaning that more than half of people who cared to vote did back this democratic party in 2010.

            -http://www.valasztas.hu/hu/ovb/content/kozlemeny/ovb_kozlemeny_20100510.pdf

            This is an amazingly high level of popular support for a party indeed.

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

  • spectator

    Time to move on, people!
    Time to get rid of this illiterate lying piece of shit, and put a real Hungarian in charge instead!
    I don’t believe, that such a big party as Fidesz has no any other civilized person, who actually has the ability to act as a statesman, instead of a miserable wannabe soccer-player imitation!

    Time for a motion of no-confidence in the Prime Minister and elect a new, who act responsibly and in the interest of Hungary, not against like this self centered mishap..!

    For an orban-free Hungary!

  • PWT

    The logic of the double negative “not unexpected” means simply that the outcome _was_ expected. The Prime Minister has now indicated that he both anticipated and accepted this result. For every Hungarian citizen, this now means that justice in Orban’s Hungary = murder someone with an ax, spend less than 10 years in prison, no matter what the sentence of a Hungarian court applying due process of law was. Any Hungarian citizen who cares about a functioning criminal justice system, and particularly those who believe that a strong nation is based on the rule of law, should care about this decision and should worry that it sets a precedent for the arbitrary and capricious treatment of criminal law and justice in the future.

    And: “the affair did not carry any national security risk”; above and beyond the fact that an Azerbaijani ax murder on Hungarian soil was a security risk AND aside from that “small” matter of making Hungary a party to possible military conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, a region in which Hungary has no vital interests, while major regional players like Russia, the source of a major part of Hungary’s energy, do have interests. Yep, “no national security risk”…

  • MagyarViking

    Magyar says:
    September 12, 2012 at 7:04 pm

    The majority of Hungarians want a strong leader who they can cheer at

    So why does not the Hungarians get one…?

  • WhOrbanna Inc.

    “Hungary should apologize to the international community and Armenia and should undertake such measures that are equivalent to the slap received from Azerbaijan.\ – Gagik Ghalatchian, Armenian Ambassador

    So hypothetically speaking*… if an Armenian would massacre Orban during his siesta with a saw, and after 8 years the new Hungarian PM let him go to Armenia were he is welcomed as a true hero, I guess Hungary would have made up for the slap.

    That’s what they call in diplomatic circles a small price for a large benefit.

    *Disclaimer: WhOrbanna Inc does not want to promote matters of violence, death, injuries, suffering, etc. If you do not understand satirical commentary, please do not continue reading.

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