September 13th, 2012

Quotable: Ján Slota on the Ramil Safarov affair

“This dreadful move runs counter to all international and legal commitments.”

Slovak National Party President Ján Slota on the Ramil Safarov affair. The ultranationalist Slota, who is well-known for his anti-Hungarian views, went on to say that “Murder and the criminal’s extradition could cause growing intercultural and interreligious disagreements and support Muslim extremists. In this connection, the Hungarian government’s shameful hypocrisy is apparent.” [news.am]
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  • MagyarViking

    One nut case view on another nut case
    So refreshing

  • Lenni

    There’s a big difference between Slota and Orban. The first is a drunken, Hungary-hating racist, while the second is a
    whoring, Hungary-destroying twunt.

  • Nutcase examiner

    The real nutcase is fasting for 7 days with his lifelong male companions.

    • Pipo

      You are a funny guy, Dr. Leto!

      If Orban had only 10% of the brains of Gyurcsany, he would get in 90% less trouble.

      I guess Orban is glad that guys as Slota and Vona are around. In the end, people will believe that everyone in Central Europe is nuts.

      • Magyar

        It is ridiculous to compare a sewer moron like Slota, and Vona.

        • Curious George

          You’re right for once. They’re both the same, so why waste time comparing.

          • Magyar

            In what way are they the same?

            Vona is civilised and has never insulted anybody.
            While Slota is the Slovak equivalent of Get Real.

          • Curious George

            “In what way are they the same?”
            A disgrace to both their countries.

          • MagyarViking

            Magyar says:
            September 13, 2012 at 7:32 pm

            Vona is civilised and has never insulted anybody

            Except 15 million Roma, but hey, who are counting them?

            Of course Vona is a nice guy
            I would know, then Vona has been home at my place drinking whiskey
            Have Vona been home at your place?

            * The Fidesz-controlled Hungarian State News Agency MTI lies to us using tax payers money*

          • Magyar

            Vona is a disgrace how???

          • Magyar

            Find me the quote where Vona insulted gypsies.

            Slota said Hungarians are a cancer to the Slovak nation.
            Has Vona said such thing about gypsies?

            I remember seeing a picture of Vonas child playing with a gypsy.
            I could find it if you want.

          • MagyarViking

            Magyar says:
            September 13, 2012 at 7:51 pm

            Find me the quote where Vona insulted gypsies

            Vona’s talk of ‘gypsycrime’ is an insult, but I do understand that you do not understand such simple things

            Try claiming that ‘Magyars have a gene that makes them criminal’ and do not feel that as an insult

            * The Fidesz-controlled Hungarian State News Agency MTI lies to us using tax payers money*

          • Magyar

            Where did Vona say gypsies have a crime gene? Pleade find the quote!

  • Magyar

    And so talking about crime in gypsy populated areas is the same as saying Hungarians are like cancer?

    You truly are a moron.

    • MagyarViking

      Magyar says:
      September 13, 2012 at 8:14 pm

      And so talking about crime in gypsy populated areas is the same as saying Hungarians are like cancer?

      No, but talking about ‘gypsycrime’ is racism

      “Jobbik”, Vona and you are not talking about ” crime in gypsy populated areas”, you guys are talking about ‘gypsycrimes’ in non-Roma areas

      You do not give a shit about the most crime-ridden areas in Hungary, which are the most poorest areas, total dominated by Roma population-wise
      There are no Police Stations there
      The Police Stations are in the area between the poor Roma area and the rest of the city, there to control who moves in and out the poor Roma area
      These Roma never report a crime, then the Police would not help them and they have to live with the perpetrators as neighbours

      This is not ‘gypsycrime’ for you
      No, ‘gypsycrime’ for “Jobbik”, Vona and you are all types of crimes that can be claimed to be ‘normal’ for Roma to perform, like “theft, rape and beheading” as you wrote in another post

      • MagyarViking

        Sorry forgot again:

        * The Fidesz-controlled Hungarian State News Agency MTI lies to us using tax payers money*

  • MagyarViking

    Magyar says:
    September 13, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Where did Vona say gypsies have a crime gene? Pleade find the quote!

    Why should I, then that is what Vona *means* with his trick-pony ‘gypsycrime’
    And that is how it is understood when he speaks about his trick-pony ‘gypsycrime’
    You know the duck-tale…

    You should take advice from yesterday’s Dutch elections, how haters like Vona, in this case Wilders is losing in popularity, then voters in the end want stability and secure solutions, not finger-pointing, scapegoat and racism

    2014 will be about jobs and financial security, not about ‘gypsycrime’

    * The Fidesz-controlled Hungarian State News Agency MTI lies to us using tax payers money*

    • Magyar

      The degenerated Dutch nation cannot be compared to Hungary.
      Jobbik will get more voters.

      • Paul

        Geneva, Switzerland, 5 September 2012 – Switzerland, for the fourth consecutive year, tops the overall rankings in The Global Competitiveness Report 2012-2013, released today by the World Economic Forum. Singapore remains in second position and Finland in third position, overtaking Sweden (4th). These and other Northern and Western European countries dominate the top 10 with the !!!!!!!!!!!Netherlands (5th)

      • Paul

        @ Magyar
        The degenerated Dutch nation????
        By the way, the dutch multi-cultural football team against Hungary…4-1

  • Janos

    @Magyar: Slota isn’t exactly a wizard, but he’s right about the historical ugly, Mongolic Hungarians. Without our Slavic blood injection, Hungarian women would still be “Mongoloid types with crooked legs”. Unfortunately the Hungarian men still look like that :)

    • Leto مؤدّب

      You’re actually Hungarian, aren’t you? ;)

      For others’ information, “János” is the Hungarian name for John. The puny hülye tótocskák use the form “Jan” (like this Slovak chauvinist drunkard called Slota does)

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Jan

        Sorry Leto, but as a Slovak, a fake nation with no history, I have nothing to be proud of, so instead I like to make up shit about Hungarians to make myself feel bigger and stronger.

        • Leto مؤدّب

          All right, no problem at all. This way the post at 9:03pm is fully understandable indeed.

          Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

          • Janos

            Hey Arab boy, you are very funny :)
            Certainly as funny as you are ugly!!

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Sorry, hülye tótocska, but you’re simply not in a position to form an opinion on my ugliness for two reasons: you haven’t seen me and I consider only female opinions in this regard.

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

          • Jan the wanabe János

            Sorry Leto,I cant help myself.

            Having an inferiority complex is part of being a Slovak, you must understand how difficult it is!

          • Leto مؤدّب

            I do understand so please don’t be too harsh on yourself. I know it must be really hard to be born a Slovak.
            Maybe tell the world everything about the Slovak history in a Twitter message. You’ll succeed for sure since you’ll have 160 characters to use.

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

          • Magyar

            For gypsy history you only need 20 characters, max.

  • olga

    @ Magyar

    re : “Slota said Hungarians are a cancer to the Slovak nation.”

    Interpret it as a compliment – he believes that Hungarians will destroy the Slovaks (figuratively speaking) therefore he looks at Magyars as a disease.

    Fear makes people paranoid, you should understand that. :))

  • Magyar

    Who is Slota to talk about anything?

    “Slota had illegally emigrated to Austria in 1971, where he participated in multiple auto thefts, until he fled Austria fearing prosecution.

    He went back to Czechoslovakia, where he committed some store robberies in the Prievidza region before fleeing the country. After returning, his father, Milan, voluntarily entered the Czechoslovak communist secret police, the StB to save his son from prison.”

    “In 1982 Slota worked in the Nováky Power Plant, where during the demolition of a wooden cooling tower he gave the order to burn it down. The flames reached 70 meters and the wind blew the cinders as far away as 500 meters. Slota was convicted of arson and sentenced to one year in prison, and suspended for two years. Documents detailing

    Slota’s criminal past were broadcast by Markíza, the leading private television station in Slovakia, which resulted in a court case Markíza v Slota.

    During the court proceedings Slota admitted to some of the crimes and even said he was proud of assaulting and beating a Hungarian saying “I am proud of giving that Hungarian a black eye””

    • Magyar

      “He is quoted as saying ‘we will get into our tanks and level Budapest’
      After this statement, a map was published on the official SNS webpage showing Hungary as a part of Slovakia.”

      “He also said about Hungarians that ‘Even in 1248 a Frankish bishop was amazed after visiting the Carpathian Basin that God could have given such a beautiful country to such ugly people.

      He was referring to the old Hungarians, who were Mongoloid types with crooked legs and even more disgusting horses. Somehow these people have vanished. Who civilized them? Probably us, the Slovaks’. He is also quoted as saying that Slavic blood had civilised the ugly, Mongolic Hungarians.”

      “While Hungarian Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsány and his Slovak counterpart Robert Fico were meeting in Brussels, he called the Turul, a Hungarian mythological falcon an ‘ugly parrot’, and insulted the first Hungarian king (Stephen I of Hungary) by calling him a ‘clown on a horse’ (he was referring to the statue of king Stephen I which is standing in the Buda Castle).”

      “Slota called the fascist leader Jozef Tiso ‘one of the greatest sons of the Slovak nation’”

      Slovak Get Real indeed.

  • wolfi

    Maygar again quotes from wiki without saying so, but left out some details:
    -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%A1n_Slota
    Slota associated homosexuals with pedophiles (just like leto likes to do – so they are really very similar)

    Sorry: forgot to add: Orbán’s rabid lying kutya aka leto the sociopath …

    • Magyar

      You also forgot to mention:
      ” According to Der Spiegel Slota said the best policy for dealing with the Roma was “a long whip in a small yard.”

      According to him: “70 percent of the Roma are criminals.”” :D
      There are some things even Slota and I see eye to eye to.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      @unwelcome alcoholic foreign idiot:

      Don’t lie, will you?
      I didn’t associate fags with pedophiles. I said homosexuality is a sexual perversion, one of the paraphilias. (Paraphilia means sexual arousal to objects, situations, or individuals that are not part of normative stimulation.)

      -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia

      And I said that homosexuality was taken out of list of paraphilias only for political reasons.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

  • olga

    @ Magyar

    As I understand, Slota is an alcoholic convicted criminal whose liver and his brain cells are sponge. I think he was the one who was coming in with a tank to level Budapest or something along those lines who how can anyone really feel insulted or take this man more seriously than some poor hopeless drunk lying on the sidewalk screaming obscenity at people walking by?

    Who really cares what a deranged person says about anything, oops, sorry I didn’t mean to insult you but you just wrote you see eye to eye “on some things with him”
    Oh well

    • Magyar

      Olga, apology accepted.

      But if a pedophile said “1+1=2″, would I have to disagree with him just because he is a pedophile?

      Same with Slota talking about Gypsy Crime.

      Btw Olga, do you think Vona and Slota are on the same social and political level?

    • Anonymous

      @Olga – Good answer!

    • Curious George

      @Maygar
      a. 1+1=2 is a statement of fact
      b. Vona’s statement on gypsies is an opinion

      If your university didn’t teach you the difference, here’s what you can do.
      i. Rip up your diploma because it is worth shit
      ii. Go back to the school,
      iii. Kick every professor you ever had, in the arse for us.

      You are a disgrace to the Hungarian education system, and your statements reflect a total inability to hold any meaningful discussion beyond parroting Vona, & linking to youtube & propaganda websites. As Viking (&I) deduced, you’re just an immature young punk, never served your country or community, and I’m sure you’ve never even held any responsible position at any level. I doubt you’ve even headed a household.

      • Magyar

        Except that Gypsycrime is a fact, so…..

  • Meh.

    Please close these stupid comment sections down.

  • wolfi

    @CG:

    This “little problem”Q that Maygar has is very well known and described here:

    -http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem-tu-quoque.html

    BTW this site also describes the tactics of leto who generally uses similar arguments – and the funny thing is, that he doesn’t realise it, but everybody else does …

    • Curious George

      @Wolfi – Thanks. Yes, we had many of these discussions previously, and you’re right, Leto sometimes falls into that category.
      Looking at Maygar’s last reply, it is no wonder that the Hungarian education system has gone down the tubes. The poor sod is incapable of basic comprehension.

      • Magyar

        Actually, I am very capable.

        For example, 1+1=2 , that is a fact, gypsycrime exists, that is a fact.

        On the other hand, saying vanilla ice-cream is the nicest tasting is an opinion, or saying that Audi cars are more comfortable than BMW is an opinion.

        But keep throwing your droppings and bananas at me :D

      • Curious George

        @Maygar – Don’t worry, it’s not your fault. It’s the Hungarian education system that failed you.
        Did you know that Hungarian law allows a student to take an exam up to 9 times, and the transcripts don’t show the results of any previous attempts? 9 times
        Yes, of course, you are very capable :D)

  • MagyarViking

    Magyar says:
    September 13, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    But if a pedophile said “1+1=2″, would I have to disagree with him just because he is a pedophile?

    No because sometimes 1+1 !=2, but 1, that is why you should disagree with him

    Now run along and figure out how both
    * 1+1=2, and
    * 1+1=1
    can both be correct (but maybe not at the same time…)
    That should not take you so many weeks, with that Master in Engineering of yours

    * The Fidesz-controlled Hungarian State News Agency MTI lies to us using tax payers money*

  • olga

    @ Magyar

    re: “But if a pedophile said “1+1=2″, would I have to disagree with him just because he is a pedophile?”

    I see your point, I am going downtown today and will find that poor homeless drunk under the bridge where he seems to live and I will give him the math test. If he tells me 1+ 1 = 2, then I will ask his opinion on how to solve the EU financial crisis then let Leto know so he can pass the info to VO.

    You already know what I think of Vona and he does not have to have his liver and brain turn into sponge due to alcohol in order for me to respect his opinions as much as I respect Slota’s

    About “gypsycrime” how would you label those killers on trial for methodically planning the execution of several Roma including a 5 year old child? What about all the non-Roma in Hungary’s jails, what type of crime did they commit?

    BTW, I noticed Double insulting you for being honest and accurately summing up the JOBBIK attitude towards the Roma – before you know it, you will be a “blond”

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