September 17th, 2012

Fidesz bows to pressure on domestic violence initiative

The government plans to submit a proposal on treating domestic violence as a separate offence in Hungary’s new Penal Code already this year, the Human Resources Minister said on Saturday.

Zoltan Balog held a press conference about consultations he had with Palma Halasz, the head of a civil group that had initiated a vote by lawmakers in a demand signed by 105,000 people, as well as with female lawmakers of ruling Fidesz and lawmakers of the small opposition LMP.

He said it was agreed at their meeting that they would initiate setting up a working group to be composed of the justice and interior ministers, representatives of the equal treatment authority and the ombudsman’s office, and officials of the civil groups recommended by Halasz. This working group will be tasked to work out the specifications of the term domestic violence, Balog added.

Palma Halasz welcomed the start of consultations with the government, stressing that it was about an issue concerning a broad part of society.

Timea Szabo, a lawmaker of Politics Can Be Different (LMP), welcomed that the government had realised the importance of the issue, which affects over one million people – men, women, children, old and young and many disabled across the board in the Hungarian society.

The new criminal code will be enforced from July 1 next year.

MTI (Magyar Távirati Iroda) is the Hungarian news agency.
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  • Observation

    It was either this or take away the women’s right to vote.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      or you’re simply a moron.

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Aloof

        Well EVERYBODY knows you are, every edition of you!
        Who would sell their soul for the “state” and whose idol is a corupt little lying immoral scumbag?

        Only a anti-Hungarian with no character would do that.

        • Leto مؤدّب

          So now you imagine you can speak for “everybody”, Yankee moron… :D

          Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

    • RealMagyar

      It would be best to eliminate voting rights for women. I don’t know any woman who knows anything about politics; they vote just for the men with the best haircuts or nicest smiles.
      And all these political activities take away their focus of their obligations: raising children, cooking and cleaning the house.
      It would be really brave from Fidesz to enforce what most Hungarian men want.

  • Aloof

    Everybody knows that you’re just a Fidesz sock puppet with no character. God, THAT is your life? How pathetic of an existence could one even WISH on themselves as that?

    • Leto مؤدّب

      And you speak of others as “having no character”… :D
      The other day you wrote “What do expect in a country where the ruling party and its extreme right wing refer to Hungary as the FATHERLAND.” to illustrate how male chauvinists Hungarians are and when I pointed out that nobody ever in Hungary refers to the country as the “fatherland” then you tried to wriggle out in all possible ways instead of admitting in a manly way what an idiot you were. :D :D

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Aloof

        Outside of Hungary, Hungary is know as the FATHERLAND to the english speaking world. If you haven’t figured out why that is then you’re just stupid. I didn’t wiggle out of anything, you just can’t see beyond Hungary. That’s your limitation not mine schmuck.

        Everyday you sock puppet for a corrupt, lying buffoon of a PM. You have no integrity or character if you do. The man is a LIAR a trait you display often and like him you divert and finger point like the Pavlov dog that you are.

        • Magyar

          Who calls Hungary the fatherland?
          I have NEVER heard anybody call us that.

          • Aloof

            I’m sure the world is stunned.

          • Magyar

            Care to show some proof?

        • Leto مؤدّب

          So you came up with some quote from the English edition of the German left-lib weekly, and then a poem written by a Californian poetaster, that Hungarians call their country as “fatherland” and this was supposed to illustrate how male chauvinists Hungarians are. :D
          You copy-and-pasted even a section of our great new Constitution from some unknown source where “haza” was translated as fatherland.
          In return I pointed to the official English translation where “our country” was the phrase in accordance with the (British) English word usage.

          Who knows, maybe some Suaheli translation of “haza” (or “szülőföld”) is “wife-beater tribemen’s land”. Do you think this could drive your point home?
          :D

          Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Anonymous

        Leto,

        You will be consigned to Hell and spend the rest of eternity with MSZP members.

  • olga

    @ Real Magyar

    :) )

    • Magyar حماس‎

      Olga dear, just to clarify, that post was not me, your beloved “Magyar”. Ok?

      Btw, I wanted to ask you something.

      You know how you call me racist, and I disagree?
      Well I have a better way to express it.

      I believe, that it is possible to predict to a certain degree, the characteristics, traits and mentality of a person, due to their ethnic and cultural background.

      That is NOT racism, are we clear now? :D
      Thanks :D

      • Pete H.

        Racism is the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races:

        Based on what you write about Roma, you are a rascist. If you don’t think so, then you are in denial.

      • InDenial

        -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWWdk-GVZV8&feature=player_embedded

  • Pete H.

    Nők lázadása – Kováts Virág (Milla)

    -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqfL3NBi0pg

    • Anonymous

      She could use a good fuck from a Gárda member.

      • Anonymous

        Gárda members don’t know that women have orgasms …

        • Aloof

          Good one! Hungarian women also know that Garda hayseeds don’t have any money either.

  • Anonymous

    But, but Garter members only fancy dicks.

  • olga

    @ Magyar :

    re: “Olga dear, just to clarify, that post was not me, your beloved “Magyar”. Ok? ”

    Rest assured, I would never confuse you with anyone else on this website.

    re: “Btw, I wanted to ask you something. etc follow by:
    I believe, that it is possible to predict to a certain degree, the characteristics, traits and mentality of a person, due to their ethnic and cultural background.”

    Absolutely, for example if I were adopted by a religious Muslim couple at birth and lived in a small Muslim village all my life, I truly believe that to a large degree the cultural background, its traits and mentality would have been predictably different than having been born in BP and raised in Canada.

    While I changed a few minor words here and there, I am confident that I captured the spirit of your posting accurately and I am glad we found some common ground and beliefs.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      A law professor warns that accepting this initiative may cause problems in criminal law application: -http://mno.hu/ahirtvhirei/jogalkalmazasi-problemak-johetnek-1105983

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

    • Curious George

      @Olga – It is impossible to debate, or explain logic, to someone who lives in an alternative world created in his mind. This imaginary world, which bear no relations to the world we live in, doesn’t seem to have to see, or deal with the same things & issues we do.
      I have no idea what Maygar sees when he claims there is no Slovakia, no such thing as Slovaks, or that many other people & places do not exist (strange because he can nonetheless insist that Slovaks in his home town speak Hungarian or eat Hungarian food :D ). The map of the world we live in has no relationship to the alternate world he can create in his head. I am (& neither are you) sure what time period or such a person even lives in – Certainly not 2012! 1920? 1945? 1900, 1800? Possibly any of those, or all simultaneously, but no one can really tell, without feedback from a psychiatrist. I don’t even know whether he can see the same physical objects we can, eg when he holds his Slovak passport up in his hand to show us. Is it invisible, transparent, or does he simply see the Gideon bible, or a copy of Playboy? If that Slovak passport doesn’t exist, then what does he see when one similarly holds up a Pakistan or Bangladesh passport? Where you and I see a Pakistan passport or Bangladesh passport, do his eyes alter the words to read “Indian” passport, or maybe even “British empire” passport? Who know – In the time period(s) he is living, Alaska could still be a part of Russia, and Korea & China are still being occupied by Japan. Possibly, also from his past (& present) posts, he might think China & Korea should be ruled by Japan, because of their Turanian racial superiority. I think it is also possible, that he amalgates time periods & events in Hungarian history to have Sisi & St Istvan playing together on the Hungarian national team which beat England at Wembley in 1953. There are too many alternate world portrayals one could pick out from reading all his posts.

      I believe you cannot explain real world logic to someone who doesn’t live in your world. Hence, I fear, your reply to your “beloved maygar” is, unfortunately, meaningless.

      • Curious George
        • Magyar

          Trying to get more attention to this post of yours?

          • Curious George

            Nope, justclosing!

          • Magyar حزب الله

            George, to clarify, Slovakia does exist officially, but it has no legitimacy behind it.

            It would be as stupid as, say an independent Republic of Csongrád. Sure, you could take Csongrád, make it a country, call everyone who lives there Csongrádians, and say they speak Csongrádian. Sure, other countries might recognize it, it wouldnt mean it is a real nation.

            Same with Slovakia, you can take the Northern Hungarian Highlands, rename it to something else, invent a nationality for the people who inhabit it, but it will NEVER be a real country. It has no history, no legitimacy behind it.

            Slovakia simply has no right to exist, and the Hungarian government should un-recognize it ASAP, just like Iran did with Israel.

            You simply can’t create a country out of thin air, like these fake nations, FYROM, Kosovo, Moldova those aren’t real countries, Fyromians are just Bulgarians who were brainwashesd by Yugoslavs, Kosovo are Albanians, Moldavians are just brainwashed Romanians, etc etc.

            I hope I made myself clear.

    • Magyar حماس‎

      Olga see, we are finally onto something.

      I am Hungarian man, therefore it will not be wrong to assume that I like pálinka.
      In the same line of thought, it is not wrong to say that Gypsies like to steal.

      Different traits, but they each belong to their respective cultures.
      So tell me Olga, why is it not racist to say that Hungarian men like to drink Pálinka, but its racist to say that Gypsies like to steal?

      Sure, not all gypsies steal, just like not all Hungarian men like Pálinka, but its safe to say that the majority does.

      • Aloof

        I am Hungarian man, therefore it will not be wrong to assume that I like pálinka.
        Well especially if your family runs a palinka distillery, duh.

        • JA aka justasking

          @Aloof,

          ‘Well especially if your family runs a palinka distillery, duh’

          Actually, I’d say your comment D’oh, since one has nothing to do with the other.

          A husband/wife team we know, own an exclusive fishing lodge, off the Queen Charlotte Islands. People pay thousands of dollars, for a 4 day trip,just to catch fresh Salmon/Halibut/Cod.

          If fish is caught, they are flash frozen right on the Island…ready to leave with the customer.

          His wife hates fish…never touches the stuff.

          • JA aka justasking

            sorry, should read…I’d say your comment IS…

  • olga

    @ George and Magyar

    George – we are just bonding, how can you be so mean?

    About Sisi – I did not know she played football but you must be referring to some game where the score was 6:3 and
    Puskas was involved along with Sisi of course. My Dad talked about it and he was not that an avid sports fan however this game must have been a huge big deal for Hungary

    I should have know about Sisi’s football career because I know she had her own home gym and was addicted to walking for hours in all kinds of weather and all this addiction to exercise was not exactly the norm those days; she sounds like she had some kind of eating disorder like Princess Di – they had a lot of traits in common and probably the latter also had a passionate love for Hungarians as well, it was just not written about :) )

    Magyar – Neither my son nor my husband drink Palinka because they were not brought up with that drink – beer scotch, wine etc are their drinks of choice although my husband could quickly get used to Palinka (JA can drink the stuff, I practically chocked and spit it out when no one was looking, thank God we were outdoors. Holding that stuff in my mouth until I had the opportunity to spit it out was painful)

    Children whether they are gypsy, Hungarian, Canadian etc who poor and exposed to crime are more likely to commit crimesthan those who are not. Not rocket science

    JA and I often talked about how we would have adopted Roma kids without the slightest hesitation if we could not have had kids of our own but we have done our “duty” and replaced ourselves – I can assure you our hypothetical adopted children would have attended school regularly, and their chances of committing crimes would be the same as our own kids’

    How well the biological Mother took care of herself during her pregnancy would have had a huge impact on the kids’ health and ability to learn, moreover IQ can be influenced by drugs and alcohol in utero. If you think that only gypsy kids are born with drug addiction and fetal alcohol syndrome in Hungary then you are in denial.

    • Curious George

      @Olga – Ah, if you remember the Puskas/Sisi game, you must have already succeeded in bonding with Maygar. You are the 2nd Canadian today (or is it the 3rd ;) ) who seems to have discovered the ability to move at will between us and the “Twilight Zone”? Maybe sometime, between your travels, you can help us understand the “other side” (not that I am interested, but I’m sure there are some here who are :D )

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