September 18th, 2012

Armenians in Hungary poised to file legal claim over “bribery” in Safarov case; say renewed ties with Yerevan hinge on recognition of Ottoman genocide

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The national council of ethnic Armenians in Hungary plans to file a legal claim against the Hungarian government’s controversial decision to transfer convicted Azeri murderer Ramil Safarov to Azerbaijan, Blikk reported on Tuesday. The tabloid quoted council head Szeván Sarkisian (left) as saying the charges include abuse of power and bribery.

Meanwhile, Armenian portal news.am quoted another ethnic Armenian in Hungary saying that the only way Yerevan would agree to re-establish diplomatic ties with Budapest – which Hungarian foreign minister János Martonyi recently said was a high priority for the government – would be an official recognition by Hungary that the World War I-era mass killing of Armenians constituted genocide.

Germany, Poland and Slovakia are currently the only Central European nations Among the 21 state worldwide that have officially recognized the killings as genocide. Such recognition has been strenuously opposed by Turkey and Azerbaijan.

There are an estimated 3,500 to 30,000 ethnic Armenians living in Hungary, half of whom speak Armenian as their native language, and there are currently 31 Armenian “self-governments” operating in the country.

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  • Pa Jar

    Christopher Atamian is right in his Huffington Post article: Orban should resign. He has lost all credibility and respect.

    Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orban who has most probably parlayed Safarov for loan guarantees or cheaper priced Oil from Baku, should on his end understand the grave consequences of his actions and of his remarkable moral bankruptcy and resign immediately.

    huffingtonpost.com/christopher-atamian/viktor-orban_b_1874545.html

    armenpress.am/eng/news/693422/goulash-diplomacy-why-viktor-orban-should-resign-huffington-post.html

    1in.am/eng/opinions_aropinions_2332.html

    • Walacky

      How frustrating it must be for Mr. Atamian that he can do absolutely nothing, but come up with unfounded suggestions and completely irrelevant demands for Orbán’s resignation.

      • DanTheMan

        Hello Leto :)

  • Zed

    Szijjarto was in Baku end of July, it would be interesting to investigate who he met during this trip.
    There’s no way that Szijjarto and his master Orban are innocent in this dirty story.

  • Leto مؤدّب

    So far I have supported that Hungary should officially recognize the World War I-era mass killing of Armenians as genocide.
    Now I have changed my mind and I’m against it.

    Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

    • Curious George

      Is it your morals & values which are for up for negotiation, or Hungary’s?

      • Leto مؤدّب

        It’s this unbelievable Armenian arrogance which is up for negotiation.

        Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

        • Aloof

          Armenian arrogance? Which arrogant Hungarian POS called Viktor Orban caused this entire mess? Negotiation? OV’s own foreign and MoD ministers were kept out of the loop on this fiasco.

          BTW, when is THIS going to happen?

          Then the Foreign Ministry must suspend relations with Azerbaijan for lying to OV, tarnishing Hungary’s honor, risking elevating a regional conflict plus Hungary will not do business with a country that does not respect the spirit and legality of international laws to include agreements reached by our respective governments on this particular subject. Then globally publicly apologize to Armenia and then you can start dialogue on restoring relations.

          Anything less than that from Hungary means this won’t be going anywhere.

        • Anonymous

          Ha! Ha! Ha! Talk about hypocrisy …

      • spectator

        “Is it your morals & values which are for up for negotiation, or Hungary’s?”

        - None of them anymore: all sold out on the Summer Sale!
        Huge discounts, just here, just now, last chance, etc.etc.

        There is nothing remained of those commodities you mentioned, George! Hungary isn’t in any position to negotiate, has neither moral or financial leverage.

        Only thing to sell out is our history – now all you hear is how great we were sometime in the past, and that’s why we demand respect, blah blah, – so already the prodigy of the soccer-fields of Felcsút started a discount sale in the past too – to the other half-Asians, if they interested…

        Take your bids, ladies and gentlemen, last chance!

        • Curious George

          @Spectator – I’ll pass on the history sale, and wait (hopefully) for the new stock to come in!

        • Leto مؤدّب

          Ah, the usual orbanophobic noise and nothing else… you’ve got nothing to say, have you? :)

          Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

          • spectator

            So, why bother to comment on “nothing”?

            After all, you are a happy and satisfied with whatever Orban doing with Hungary, aren’t you?

            Otherwise I expressed my views clear and loud from day one of this shameful affair, and – contrary to you – I don’t like repeating myself, let alone endlessly those stupid mantras as you do.

            Thank God, we are different, Leto!

          • Leto مؤدّب

            @postcommie bastard:

            You know very well why I had to introduce ending all my posts with

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

          • spectator

            “..why I had to..”

            You wan, Leto, hands down – I accept my defeat.

          • spectator

            - But of course – I was phonetic: You won!

          • Leto مؤدّب

            @spectator:

            I appreciate that you didn’t wriggle (in contrast with a certain regular dwelling in your trench).

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

    • Tsayt

      Mush Mu’addab, This shows your utter frivolous nature. Your comments are infantile and quite simplistic.

      Incidentally, to accuse Armenians of being arrogant is a clear case of self-projection. I deduce that you have never,ever supported Hungary, or any other nation, to recognize the Armenian genocide and therefore so-called “changing” your mind on this issue is a lie!

      You need to educate yourself to earn the right to use a “polite” name.

      • Leto مؤدّب

        Among others, the word also means “educated”.
        I did support recognizing the mass killings of Armenians in WWI as genocide beforehand. It was this Armenian impudence what made me change my mind.
        The facts certainly haven’t changed but recognizing a much disputed historical event this way or that way is a political act, of course.

        Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

        • Tsayt

          Armenian impudence you say? now you are showing a wilful bias. If calling for justice, unmasking Hungarian government’s open hostility against Armenia and reading commentaries of an imbecile such as you makes Armenians impudent, then I suggest you eat it up, and get over it.

          One more thing, you cannot recognize a factual event then call that “much disputed”, that alone qualifies you as being an أحمق, with the word’s truest meaning.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Yes, I do say so. Astonishing Armenian impudence and arrogance.
            Before this incident I did feel sympathy towards Armenians. For example I read about Musa Dagh.
            However having read all those insane hate posts, threats and insults you Armenians produced on this site (for example in that 400+ comment thread) and having seen the burning Hungarian flags in Yerevan, the Armenian efforts at an anti-Hungarian campaign in the global media, now this sympathy pretty much belongs to the past.

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

          • Tsayt

            It is interesting that you say you have read about Musa Dagh, that suggests you haven’t actually read the book. How educated you pretend to be, Mr. Mu’addab ????

            Leto, I strongly suggest you go get an education about what is what, that might help to get out of a fickle personality.

            Oh, and write to your parliamentarians in Hungary to get them out of this shameful anti-Armenian mess that they brought upon to the good name of Hungarians.

            PS. you are not the first nor will be the last person to hate Armenians. It is my pleasure therefore to tell you to go to hell and take Orban, and the ilk, with you!

          • Leto مؤدّب

            I support my government’s decision to extradite Safarov to his country. It’s up to Armenia if they want to continue this way because Hungary can certainly do without diplomatic relations, or other kind of relations, to Armenia.

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

          • Tsayt

            Vacuus Virtus Illic Est Haud Veneratio

    • latinist

      You changed your mind about genocide and no genocide. The facts haven’t changed. This is more emotional than logical.

      • Magyar

        The matter of whether the Armenian genocide happened or not is still too uncertain to say for sure

        • Tsayt

          Oh really ? and for sure…you say? what qualifies you to come to that conclusion?

          I must ask, can you read? for sure?

  • Laz

    Seems to me that it was a mistake to let lunatics to come to this country. It is an other lunacy to blame Orban for what the Azerbaijan prime minister / government did in this murder case. I cant wait to see if the Armenians in Hungary will go further than “planing” to do what the Blikk this “respectable” media reports..all they do from left to right is bullshit a lot that is all that matters for them just bullshit and the media reports all of it for our amusement

    • Aloof

      Why? Armenians have been coming to Hungary since the 10th and 11th centuries. Armenia was the 1st christian state/ country in the world in 301 AD. Isn’t that the Hungarian model?

      So the questions are did Viktor Orban sell Hungary’s integrity, morals and values in exchange for future oil deals and/or the promise of money for personal and/or political gain? He said he knew of the consequences so the other question begs WHY did he do it and WHY now?

      His actions speak louder than his words. How can anyone believe anything this liar says anyhow? Take a good look at his record, it’s utter failure everywhere you look except the pockets of his corrupt cronies.

    • Anonymous

      No, the mistake is to believe that the Hungarians have any credibility left at this point.

  • Al

    Leto: Once one writes from right to left can not be trusted!

  • Feher Gyorgy

    Dear friends at Politics Hungaria, I am back. What is even more important: I am here to stay now that the cyber bar in my hometown was able to pay their bills and have again gained access to the World Wide Web.

    Lots of things happened since I last posted here, all good things for our country – except the Safarov case of course… I will never forgive the Azerbaijis for lying in Orban’s face and not giving us the promised money.

    To make a long story short, today everybody is talking about Hungary and how successful we will be any time soon.
    Today Reuters even sent out an article about the Hungarian fairy tale. They tell the story about a soup bar, Leves, which is a raving success.

    “At Leves, a small soup bar set up by two friends last year, long queues form each lunchtime.
    Any business can thrive that’s innovative, finds its place in the market and in which people work with relentless enthusiasm,” said Zoltan Horvath and Adam Gogge in a reply to Reuters questions.

    uk.reuters.com/article/2012/09/18/uk-hungary-orban-idUKBRE88H0SD20120918?feedType=RSS&feedName=GCA-GoogleNewsUK

    Now that it’s clear that we will probably not get the Azerbaijan money, we should just do what Hungarians do best, combine innovation with enthusiasm, follow the example of these 2 young bright men and take the global industry by storm.

    • Aloof

      Soup nazis in Hungary? Say it ain’t so!

  • Walacky

    Do I get this right? As a fallout of a recent action involving Hungary and Azerbaijan, Armenia wants some retrospective declaration for an incident almost a century ago concerning itself and Turkey.

    • JA, aka justasking

      Yup…

    • Curious George

      “Armenia wants some retrospective declaration……..”
      Only if you believe the tabloid to be a reliable source of information.

      • Leto مؤدّب

        Oh, is news.am a tabloid?

        -http://news.am/eng/news/121317.html

        Ceterum ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Curious George

        Blikk is, and maybe you’ve been reading too much of it. You seem to think news.am’s quote of the opinion of a private citizen in Hungary, as being the Armenian government’s official position.

        • Leto مؤدّب

          The info piece in question came from news.am.
          FYI, Blikk is one of the few newspapers in Hungary I have never read.

          Ceterum ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

        • Curious George

          That’s right! It’s a report taken from the internet about someone in Hungary, not an official statement from the Armenian government. You don’t seem to understand the difference.

    • Aloof

      No, Hungarian/Armenians of which they’re are 30,000 in Hungary said that.

      What Viktor Orban should be doing that everyone is still waiting for him to do is:

      Suspend relations with Azerbaijan because they tarnished Hungary’s honor and morality, lied to the prime minister and risked setting off a regional conflict in a very sensitive region of the world. Hungary should apologize publically and globally to the Armenians for blindsiding them with this, a country that was the 1st Christian state/ country in 301 AD and the model that Hungary is based upon.

      Until and unless Hungary does that then there will be no relations.

      There is no down side for Hungary to do exactly that. They make the US, Russia, Turkey, Israel, the EU/IMF and Armenia happy again. That also throws the whole onus where it belongs, into Azerbaijan’s lap.

      So if there was no money involved and Viktor Orban said he knew the risks, then you explain to us why that isn’t happening?

      • Walacky

        “They make the US, Russia, Turkey, Israel, the EU/IMF and Armenia happy again.”

        Then they should contact the Azeri president, as it was his decision that set this killer free, and where therefore the responsibility rests, not Hungary’s. You see, if the neighbor’s dog is barking, I don’t discipline my cat. And it would be nice if the relationship between Hungary and Azerbaijan were just left to these two countries, as it does not concern the rest

        • Aloof

          Does not concern the rest! RLMFAO!
          I was right about you the first time, wake up!

          • Walacky

            Laughing does not substitute for arguments.

    • Leto مؤدّب

      Yes, that’s correct. Apparently Armenians see this a very good way to quell their outrage why Hungary, in accordance with international law and practice, transferred the axe killer to his Azeri homeland in order to serve his life sentence …. where he was received in the very same way, that is as a celebrated hero, as the Armenian terrorist, whose bomb killed 8 people and injured 55 others in Paris, was received in Armenia in 2001.

      Ceterum ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Aloof

        @Leto مؤدّب says: September 21, 2012 at 5:45 pm

        You’re a disgusting little wretch you know that? It’s apple and oranges we’ve already been through before just like comparing this to the Lockerbie bomber that I slammed your dishonest mouth shut with.

        Yes, that’s correct.

        No it’s not correct, the Armenians in Hungary said that not Armenia but if I WAS them I’d throw that in too just because OV acted like the arrogant lying asshole that he is.

      • Tsayt

        You are misinformed, or reading selective Azeri1Turkish press only. The Armenian individual in question served 18 years in French jails. He was pardoned by the French authorities and then sent to Armenia. He was not welcomed by any official government rep. neither was officially pardoned by the Armenian government.

        You can either believe the Azeri lies, coming from non-other than Ilham Aliyev, (which is not surprising) or use your intellect (uhhm!) to do the most superficial research to find out about the truth.

        • Leto مؤدّب

          The Armenian liar wrote “He was not welcomed by any official government rep. neither was officially pardoned by the Armenian government.”

          but the truth is

          “ARMENIAN PREMIER MEETS WITH RELEASED ASALA MEMBER

          Meeting in Yerevan on 4 May (2001) with Varoujan Garabedian, a former member of ASALA (the Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia), Prime Minister Andranik Markarian expressed his “joy” at Garabedian’s release from a French jail where he served almost 18 years of a life sentence for his alleged role in the 1983 bombing of the Turkish Airlines Office at Ory airport, Noyan Tapan and RFE/RL’s Yerevan bureau reported. Garabedian, who was born in Syria, was released on the condition that he be expelled to Armenia. The French daily “Liberation” reported at the time of Garabedian’s release last month that Yerevan Mayor Robert Nazarian had pledged to provide him with employment and accommodation. ”

          -http://www.rferl.org/content/article/1142396.html

          Unless, of course, you don’t consider the Armenian prime minister as an “official government rep. ” :D

          Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

        • Leto مؤدّب

          ” reading selective Azeri1Turkish press only. ”
          :D

          Do you mean RFE/RL perhaps which “is funded by the U.S. Congress”? ;)

          http://www.rferl.org/info/FAQ/777.html#section8

          Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

      • Tsayt

        Hey booboo, this is what you wrote “where he was received in the very same way, that is as a celebrated hero”. The fact is that Garabedian was not received in the same manner at all. There were no high ranking Armenian officials waiting for him in the airport, there were no Presidential pardon, there were no promotions… all you had was an expression of “joy” for him coming to Armenia and a pledge to give him an apartment.

        Only bigots (perhaps you as well) would make the two comparison on equal level. The fact remains that in Azerbaijan killing ANY Armenian is a fair game, and this is an official policy declared by no less than the their president, and ass-licking Hungary accommodates the wishes of such racist regimes.

        And booboo, liars are those who twist the truth voluntarily (perhaps you as well ! :-)

        Why do I get the feeling that you are not an ethnic Hungarian? ;-)

        • Leto مؤدّب

          Both Armenian killer Garabedian and Azeri killer Safarov were received and praised by the prime ministers of their country. Both killers were hailed as heroes in their countries and both of them were provided by employment and accommodation by high ranked officials of their countries.

          “there were no Presidential pardon”

          Unless you consider the French president’s pardon as such. :) Hey, do you happen to know how much you Armenians payed for that killer? ;)

          “Why do I get the feeling that you are not an ethnic Hungarian?”

          Maybe because you’re an Armenian liar? :D

          Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

          • Tsayt

            There was no presidential pardon from Armenia, you idiot. That was what you were saying. Or could it be that your mouth and ass are interchangeable.

            You know booboo, using the tool if accusing me being a “liar” is a failure on your part to win the argument.

            One thing is beyond argument: you are an idiot. :-) :-)

          • Leto مؤدّب

            Yes, since it was a French presidential pardon the Armenian president conveniently didn’t need to pardon the Armenian killer. The Armenian prime minister was left only with the task of celebrating Garabedian, who killed eight civilians and injured 55 others, and then the mayor of the capitol of Armenia provided the Armenian killer with a job and accommodation.

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

          • Leto مؤدّب

            capital

  • Walacky

    This \Armenian community in Hungary\ starts behaving like a spoiled kid with oversized ego.

    http://news.am/eng/news/121809.html

  • Magyar

    Armenians are complaining again, this time about the Atatürk statue in Budapest.

    Hungarian Armenians protest erecting of Ataturk’s monument in Budapest

    -http://news.am/eng/news/121809.html

    • Magyar

      “Armenian National Autonomy of Hungary”
      Armenian autonomy??!

      • Jessey

        Atatürk was a mass-murdering, drunken gay. Several biographies of Atatürk reveal his slightly unsavory habits of drinking and sleeping around with men. Another of his habits was adopting young girls.

        If he deserves a statue somewhere, then it should be in Hungary, land of the stupid and home of the ignorant.

        • Magyar

          MSZP tried to spread rumours that Vona was also gay. But off course it was BS, and they had no evidence at all :D

          If Atatürk was gay, he wasnt very public about it, and he wasnt like your typical asshole faggot.
          He brought back Turkey from the brink, and modernized the country, not to mention kicked back asshole Greeks and other occupiers of Türkish land.

          • Jacques

            Yes, Vona has good penis. Very tasty!!

    • Tsayt

      This is just great. Hungary sends home an axe-killer knowing he was going to be freed, then plans to erect Ataturk’s statue in Budapest. Ataturk, a mass-murderer who’s orders resulted in the killings of 100′s of thousands of Armenians and Greeks in 1922.

      It seems there’s no end to Turkish ass-licking by Magyars.

  • JA, aka justasking

    ‘Atatürk statue in Budapest’

    Can anybody tell me why, his statue even being erected in Hungary?

  • wolfi

    Atatürk was not only gay – he also was a J*wish Freemason – if you really want to believe this site:

    -http://www.atajew.com/

    Oh what funny things you can find on the internet …

    PS: But the loonies on pol.hu are still the funniest!

  • Walacky

    …. perhaps as a reminder that, had Hungary had as capable a politician/military person as he was, the outcome of post-WW1 “peace” settlement with the neighboring little Entente would have been vastly different.

    • Aloof

      Yeah he was friggin’ great…

      As a result of the Ottoman Empire’s WWI defeat, the Turks lost all of their Middle East territories with the exception of the traditional Turkish area around the region of Asia Minor.

      • Walacky

        …. but as Hungary had “only” traditional Hungarian areas immediately adjoining to what remained, that would have been a pretty substantial improvement.

      • Leto مؤدّب

        Yup, he was great. You know nothing and you shoot off your big Yankee idiotic mouth again. :D :D :D

        Here’s the difference between that how Turkey looked like before Atatürk’s entering the scene (Treaty of Sèvres, 1920) and what he achieved (Treaty of Lausanne,1923)

        -http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a0/TreatyOfSevres_%28corrected%29.PNG/800px-TreatyOfSevres_%28corrected%29.PNG

        Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

        • Aloof

          LMFAO! You disgusting little dishonest twirp. Provide the TEXT that goes with your little map faggot. God you are less than pond scum. LMFAO!

          • Leto مؤدّب

            @repelling Yankee idiot:

            You must grow your fat a** really fast because you laugh it off in each post, no matter how stiff that laughter that is…

            Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

    • …justasking,

      @Walacky,

      ‘had Hungary had as capable a politician/military person as he was, the outcome of post-WW1 “peace” settlement with the neighboring little Entente would have been vastly different’

      That’s true…it’s even documented, that some Peace Conference delegates sent to Hungary, to meet Kun, found him to be slimy and repulsive.

      It’s even stated, that the Czechs were so successful with their case for autonomy, simply because of how they presented themselves as being more sophisticated, educated and charismatic…which to some, equalled honesty.

      Can’t fault these people…when your in a rush to settle the world’s issues (it’s just business)…love is in the details.

      • ….Magyar

        Béla Kohn was slimy? What? No way!

        • ….justasking,

          @Magyar,

          I know…who knew!?

  • Aloof

    @Leto مؤدّب says: September 24, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Oh reduced to stealing Double’s lines are we? You must be the fake puppet because the real one always has original lies and propaganda. LMFAO!

    • Leto مؤدّب

      Did I call you a J*w, you disgusting Yankee moron? :o

      Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

  • Leto مؤدّب

    “There are an estimated 3,500 to 30,000 ethnic Armenians living in Hungary”

    What an accurate estimate. :D

    Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

    • Aloof

      Hungary just had a census, so how many are there puppet?
      If THEY don’t know then what does it matter to you?

      • Democrat

        Yes, we had a census and more recently a national consultation. Still the results of neither have been published. Perhaps FIDESZ did not like the answers.

  • DoubleH63

    @JA aka justasking

    ”Can anybody tell me why, his statue even being erected in Hungary?”

    Well, this could be another ugly one. We will see tomorrow if there will be a statue at all. [Actually, it is more about a square than a statue… but the statue will be part of the square.]

    As the story goes, back in May a Zsidesz-KDNP council member from this BP district visited the sister district in Istanbul. He got all exited, and as a gesture to the Turks, he told them that they would name this – at the moment unnamed – square after Atatürk in the district. The Turks got all exited too and decided to donate a statue for the square.
    At a Council meeting in May most of the members thought it to be a good idea and it was voted for by the council; mostly Zsidesz-KDNP members (supported by Jobbik and LMP members and opposed by MSZP members).

    Now after the axe murderer thing, and all the Armenians (inside and outside of Hungary) pissed; the guy whose idea was the whole thing in the first place asked the mayor of the district (MSZP) to re-visit the previous decision (there will be another council meeting tomorrow).
    In the meantime everybody is pissed off now.
    The mayor, because the statue is already here and a big Turkish delegation is coming for the September 29th celebration;
    The Turkish Ambassador, because nobody consulted with them about this and saying that the square is to small to be named after such great man as Atatürk and the Armenians because they look upon Atatürk as a bad man.

    So, it should be another fun day in Hungary!

    • …justasking,

      @Hey Double,

      How’s it goin’? Thank you for that post.

      I have to admit, I’ve read somethings about this Atatürk guy, and if I was a Turk…I too, would be singing his praises. I understand, that he adopted something like 12 girls, and 1 son. Good on anybody who goes the adoption route I say.

      As for him being gay…I could give 2 shits…his heart was for the success of Turkey and the Turkish people.

      Obviously, if I was Armenian…I’d have a different opinion. That being said, from my understanding, Russia sold out the Armenians to him/Turkey.

      I personally, do not agree with Hungary erecting a statue, let alone naming a square to honor him on Hungarian soil. Not because I have anything against the guy; but, because this would be strictly a political move on Hungary’s part to brown nose to Turkey.

      I do not think it worth offending our Armenian community in such a way. If he did something spectacular for Hungary, erect the statue, and defend it by calling the guy a controversial figure…but that’s not the case here.

      Shame on the putz, who said that Hungary (without any consultation/authorization) would honour this man. I say let HIM explain to the Turkish delegates, how he had no authority to suggest such an endeavour and how it ain’t gonna happen…oh, and why.

      • Leto مؤدّب

        “from my understanding, Russia sold out the Armenians to him/Turkey.”

        That’s not quite correct. Soviet Russia had much, much more acute problems in 1920-1923 than tending to their Armenian vassals.

        Ceterum censeo MSZP delendum est.

  • Walacky

    …. and as I’ve just read, now the Armenians living in Slovakia are also rattling the cage for a bit of attention there, too.

    • Aloof

      Where have you been? Slovakia was ahead of the game before Hungary released the Azeri murderer:

      Any Turk denying Armenian Genocide in Slovakia will be jailed 5 April 2012…
      -http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/101796/

  • DoubleH63

    @justasking

    Update on the square and statue deal.

    Hahaha! This district council is not that stupid.
    They have found a solution for their problem.
    “A kecske is jóllakik, meg a káposzta is megmarad”.
    They will not name the square after Atatürk – but after the sister district in Istanbul. So the Turkish delegation can come and take part in the celebrations on Saturday. Later the donated statue will be erected (nicely hidden) in some schoolyard.
    Crafty Hungarians… must be because of that superior Pákó gene in all of us, eh?

    • justasking,

      @Double,

      ‘Crafty Hungarians… must be because of that superior Pákó gene in all of us, eh?’

      Obviously, some of us have more of that gene than others. :D

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