November 27th, 2012

Outrage over Jobbik demand for list of Jewish MPs, officials

Marton-Gyongyosi

A leading member of Jobbik has expressed regret in the wake of a statement he made Monday saying that a list should be complied of Jews in government and parliament.

Márton Gyöngyösi, the deputy group leader of the radical-nationalist party, said before regular business in Parliament on Monday that government officials and parliamentarians of Jewish origin had unduly influenced Hungary’s policy towards the current situation in Israel and the Gaza Strip.

“It is high time to assess many MPs and government members are of Jewish origin and who present a national security risk to Hungary,” Gyöngyösi said, adding that the country’s foreign ministry had “rushed to make an oath of allegiance to Israel.”

The office of the government’s spokesman released a statement this morning saying that the government “takes the strictest possible action against every form of racism and anti-Semitic behaviour and does everything in order to ensure that malicious voices incompatible with European norms are driven back.”

Foreign ministry state secretary Zsolt Németh denied that there was any connection between the government’s policy towards the current situation in Israel and the Gaza Strip is in any way related to the number of Hungarian officials of Jewish origin.

Gyöngyösi on Tuesday said he regretted making the remark, saying it applied only to those who hold dual Hungarian-Israeli citizenship, while criticizing the press for attacking Jobbik instead of Israel.

His comments on Monday followed those made by Jobbik president Gábor Vona last week at a demonstration in front of the embassy of Israel in Budapest, in which he said that government members and MPs should be screened to determine whether any possess dual Hungarian-Israeli citizenship.

They also came a day before a major conference on hate speech organized by the Council of Europe was scheduled to open in Budapest.

In July Gyöngyösi made waves by lashing out at investigators searching for Nazi war criminals in Hungary, and in January was accused by the opposition Socialist party of engaging in Holocaust denial.

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  • MagyarViking

    “Jobbik president Gábor Vona last week”…”said that government members
    and MPs should be screened to determine whether any possess dual
    Hungarian-Israeli citizenship”

    Similar to Slovakia, the Ukraine and Romania, should screen “government members
    and MPs” “to determine whether any possess dual Hungarian” citizenship?

    • John Pitt-Rivers

      Great idea!

  • Lwolf

    A Magyarok Erdekeit Csak Magyarok tudjak kepviselni

    • MagyarViking

      …so that would then in the sourounding countries, mean that no ‘ethnic Hungarian’ can be MP, etc…

      • http://www.facebook.com/stan.lee.58118774 Stan Lee

        There are no “ethnic Hungarians” in the surrounding countries, only ethnic Slovaks, Romanians, etc. They moved to our country, not the other way around. If Jews are entitled to Israel, 2 thousand years after they lost it, Hungarians are also entitled to their thousand year old Kingdom, taken away by an unfair treaty.

        • seinean

          Conquered by sword , lost by sword. Quite a way to wrap-up 1000 years of history. But then – again – this is how conquering empires tend to end.

          • Unnepnap Unnep

            Hello romani-an chauvinist seinean! There are noo material proofs (cemetries cultic places) for the existence of romanians (that time called vlachs) in Transylvania before the 12th century. The history of Vlachs started as refugees in medieval Transylvania.

  • Daniel

    Vona Gabor is clearly the most honest politician in Hungary when it comes to our relationship with the israel, as it is no surprise to honest empathetic people that Israel just happens to be a significant threat to the entire civilized world. Any country based on a nonsensical fantasy book with such a violent history having hundreds of Nuclear weapons is a major fucking problem folks. Hungary should have absolutely nothing to do with it. Sorry if that making you butthurt Viking buddy. Keep your veil on.

    • MagyarViking

      Did I complain?

      I just suggested that it should be the same treatment to discover ‘under-cover Hungarians’ in the neighbouring countries, then we would not like double standards, would we?

      Maybe the Hungarian Academy of Science can develop a smart and easy machine for discovering polonium and in that process discover any Israeli under-cover agents?

      And do we not feel so much safer sleeping when we know that neither United States, Russia, the United Kingdom, France, and China are not “based on a nonsensical fantasy book”?
      That makes the real difference for us, does it not?

      • stanlee98

        “I just suggested that it should be the same treatment to discover
        ‘under-cover Hungarians’ in the neighbouring countries, then we would
        not like double standards, would we?”

        Don’t worry about Hungarians, they don’t have such an evil world-wide network as the chosen ones.

        Double standard is the norm when it comes to giving special treatment to constantly whining j@ws. They want to limit or simply ban free speech in our country, and we may disagree with that. Of course if you dare to disagree with these special people, you get the usual label, and automatically discredited. Some ethnic groups are just afraid of the truth, refuse to argue their case, they want full immunity. Our lowlife government has sold its soul to the devil, along with the majority of the guys and dolls sitting in the Parliament, so full protection will be provided to a hostile minority at the expense of the rest of the country. Political correctness has gone way too far. Try common sense once in a while.

        • MagyarViking

          “Double standard is the norm when it comes to giving special treatment to constantly whining j@ws”

          Yes, we never heard any Hungarian “complained” about historical unjustices…seems you share the same spirit, except the Jews seem a bit more succesful in their quest for retribution, but why hold that against them, if you are not such a loser yourself?
          Or that would be too much “common sense”?

      • Daniel

        I just knew you would reply.. as I see you have been whoring yourself nicely on these boards spamming your nonsense like an infant on practically every issue. Remember, the empty can rattles the most mein Juden.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jura.nanuk Jura Nanuk

    What an idiot.

  • librarian

    Disgusting. Just adds one more piece of press for the rest of the world to judge Hungary in a negative light. Going backwards…

    • ViktorOrban

      Nobody shines a bad light about Hungary or Hungarians. Actually I am praised everywhere I come about the Hungarian spirit. Nobody in Europe is as clever as we are, and nobody works so hard. The only reason why our GDP is so low is because postcommie bankers, the IMF and the CNN are stealing the money before it lands in our accounts.
      Concerning Gyöngyösi – I can only tell 1 thing… never trust someone from Jöbbik with 2 ö’s in his name. Don’t tell you I didn’t warn yöu.

      • wolfi

        Viktor, did you hear that The Onion called you the sexiest man alive ?

        PS:

        Sorry, it was Kim Jong Un – but I don’t see much of a difference between the two of you …

    • olga

      And why exactly should Hungary be judged by JOBBIK? Maybe “the rest of the world” should judge Hungary by the protest that followed when Hungarian united to show their disgust. Personally, I focus on the North American press coverage the anti-Nazi rally received and you focus on the small percent of the lunatics which is exactly the JOBBIK MO so I think that everyone who judges Hungary by JOBBIK standards is disgusting

  • szebbjovot

    So what did Gyöngyösi say that was so bad?

    • wolfi

      He didn’t ask for them to wear a yellow star too – or did he ?

      • szebbjovot

        Yellow stars would certainly help.

        I personally agree with Gyöngyösi’s ideas.

        Jews, oops I mean “Israeli-Hungarians” do pose a threat to Hungary.

        They will continue to support Israel and sacrifice Hungary, while getting rich themselves.

        Jews dont give a shit about Hungary, they just want to infest this land, and live a rich life, while screwing over the ethnic Hungarians.

        A good example of such Jew is a scum who dares to call himself “petofi” and posts on Red Evas blog.

        In my opinion, anti-Hungarian Jews should get extradited to Israel for crimes against the Hungarian Crown.

        There is a reason why the vast majority of Jews in Hungary vote for MSZP, DK, SzDSz.

    • stanlee98

      He didn’t say anything “bad”. Thanks to the media, controlled by you know who, the whole thing was out of context and blown out of proportion. Thing like this show everyone with an ounce of common sense and natural self-preservation instinct that something is profoundly wrong if a small ethnic(?) religious(?) group can have such overwhelming influence.
      Gyöngyösi only suggested a screening of dual citizens, suspecting that their loyalty lies elsewhere. What’s wrong with that? Are these people afraid of something, like the truth to come out? Just a reminder, the main Hungary based j@wish organization supported the sick idea of suing the Hungarian Railways for billions of dollars, because they could not refuse to provide services to the Germans, sometimes in the past century. So these people live in Hungary, but instead of looking out for what’s good for the country, they support foreign lawyers and their frivolous lawsuits to rip us off. Loyalty anyone?

      • Paul

        “Thanks to the media, controlled by you know who”…no I do not know. Please tell me.

      • MagyarViking

        “Gyöngyösi only suggested a screening of dual citizens, suspecting that their loyalty lies elsewhere. What’s wrong with that?”

        Yes, what *is* wrong with “screening of dual citizens”?
        Nice to see you agreeing with those Radical Nationalists in Slovakia, Ukraine, Romania and Serbia, who just want to do that – to identify all 5th column ‘Hungarians’

        • http://www.facebook.com/stan.lee.58118774 Stan Lee

          You might want to drop “Magyar” from your nick, or change it to Anti Magyar”.
          Read my post again, this time all the way to the end for a good example on why some jewish organizations are the enemy within.

  • Firefly

    Look what has happened to the U.S. – perfect textbook case about having a govt where many top/mid officials have either dual-citizenship or other alliegences. Perhaps Marton has diligently done his homework and has a deep concern for his land.

  • John Pitt-Rivers

    An excellent idea for other countries to follow!

  • Paul

    Something completely comparable and telling:

    “Writer and polemicist Zsolt Bayer, an old
    friend of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, has made
    anti-semitic statements in the past.

    Bayer told Magyar Hirlap
    – a paper closely aligned with Orbán’s Fidesz party – on
    January 4 that only Jews and their hirelings could be evil enough to
    criticize Hungary.

    “A stinking excrement called something
    like Cohen writes from somewhere in England that ‘a foul stench
    wafts’ from Hungary. Cohen, and Cohn-Bendit, and Schiff. A pity
    they weren’t all buried up to their necks in the forest of
    Orgovány,” Bayer said.”

    Never did see any condemnation from Fidesz for these statements.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vsherren1 Valentina Sherren

    Is this history repeating itself?

  • Aloof

    Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence… which pretty much sums up Jobbik really well.

  • Norbert Lukacsi

    By the way, the Slovaks are already screening ethnic Hungarians who want to fill MP positions in Slovakia. All the other dual citizens are fine, as long as it’s not Hungarian. So, who says the neighbouring countries aren’t discriminating solely on ethnicity when it comes to filling local council/parliament roles. It is already happening there. I haven’t seen leftist Hungarians making a big deal about their brothers and sisters being discriminated against, only when it comes to Jewish identity.

    Then again, Lendvai said, I don’t feel guilty that we did not extend Hungarian citizenship to Hungarian minorities abroad. :( Lendvai = Traitor.

    • MagyarViking

      “the Slovaks are already screening ethnic Hungarians who want to fill MP positions in Slovakia”

      Interesting, so how do they do this screening in reality?
      Is it the Slovak State, which sends out an official questionnaire to the MP-to-be?

      • Norbert Lukacsi

        For example, the leader of MKP, Jozsef Berenyi ,was told if he dares to acquire Hungarian citizenship, he will loose his place in the Slovak parliament. It was on Duna TV recently. This is why they are monitoring all ethnic Hungarians in Felvidek. They don’t want to allow them to fill any local council positions. Basically, they hope to catch you out by you declaring that you have acquired Hungarian citizenship.

        Again, while people are bitching about rights/racism in Hungary, they haven’t been to the old parts of Greater Hungary. I have been to most parts and spoke to the locals there about the abuse they suffer.
        I still feel Jobbik is the best solution for Hungary. Again, I don’t agree with everything they say, because they tend to over dramaticize the situation with Gypsy’s and Jews, but the rest of the parties are useless.
        This is why my family chose to leave Hungary 25 years ago. I have been only back once in 25 years. I enjoy going to Erdely a lot more. Everyone is true Hungarian who supports each other without worrying whether someone is Jewish, Catholic, Protestant etc… I can tell you how hard it is to keep your identity in countries where the number of your people are almost non existent. Trust me, I have lived in four continents and I know.

        • MagyarViking

          “, the leader of MKP, Jozsef Berenyi ,was told if he dares to acquire
          Hungarian citizenship, he will loose his place in the Slovak parliament”

          Well, he will lose his Slovak citizenship and that is necessary to be an MP, yes
          This rule applies to all Slovak citizens and not only for those having an Hungarian citizenship also

          On the other hand, how will the Slovaks now?
          Only if the Slovak citizen tells the Slovak Authorities that he has an Hungarian citizenship also. This is what has happened so far

          Fidesz has promised not to tell any other state who has Hungarian citizenship, so then it cannot be proven in Slovakia that you have it, if you do not officially claim you have it

          It will though be interesting when it comes to the new election register, then that will be public, and by checking it, one should be able to see who are Hungarian citizens and live in Slovakia, so that can definitely be a problem for those Slovak citizens who register to vote in the Hungarian election

          • Norbert Lukacsi

            But remember, the whole law was originally aimed at Hungarians, since they make up the majority of the minority. In the beginning, the Slovaks did not loose their citizenship, until international pressure mounted on the Slovaks to extend the law to all who acquire another citizenship.

            Well, I wouldn’t be so sure that Fidesz does not hand over the information. I am sure you heard a few days ago about Fidesz handing out information about Jobbik supporters/MP’s who travelled to Poland. They shared almost all possible info. That is called treason. In other countries you would easily get 20 years.

            I will be honest with you, no offence to you if you live in Hungary, but I think the best solution for Hungary is to elect a party/prime minister who have lived abroad most of their life. They will have understanding of international relations better, better educated on other cultures, economics etc.. I think that is the only way forward for Hungary. Otherwise, Hungary will be a sinking ship. Actually, it is already. :(

  • Alex

    What an imbecile, everyone should be screened BEFORE becoming a dual citizen.

    • DoubleH63

      “What an imbecile, everyone should be screened BEFORE becoming a dual citizen.”

      I don’t know who voted your comment up, but he must be a bigger imbecile than you are.

      Do you even understand what’s going on here? Or you just pinned your yellow star on for the day?
      Suggestion: leave it on for good; it will be easier to collect you when
      the train-ride begins again.

      The Hungarian citizens in question (MPs and other government officials – whom should be screened were born Hungarian citizen, later somewhere in life they became Izraeli citizens. How can the Hungarian government screen them BEFORE that you idiotic ‘gázkamraszökevény’.

      • Alex

        Pathetic demented nincompoop, your ridiculous assumption that I’m a Jew just shows how bigoted and narrow-minded you are and people recognize that that’s why you got the down-voted, which can be given only by registered users by the way.
        The other thing, if I was a native Hungarian than who the hell is the government to screen me when I become a citizen of an other country as well. Oh yeah I bet you jumped around like a crazy person when the Slovak government took away the citizenship of now Hungarian people who became dual citizens and yet you suggest a very similar treatment in this case, what a hypocrite you are Sir. Get a brain.

      • Schmice

        Double H. Hmmm. Let’s see. What could that possible stand for? Should have called yourself FA for Fucking Asshole

        • DoubleH63

          Yeah, let’s see. Do you have a suggestion old AIPAC man?

          • Dezso

            Yes I do!
            I want to make love to you my little huszar!
            Remember me?
            Dezso

  • judas

    The legendary Hungarian IQ is
    efficiently repressed by their lamentable EQ.

    • szebbjovot

      Every country has a right to be worried about Fifth column Jewish opportunists.

      • Schmice

        POS

  • Flyover099

    I wonder what such a list would look like (including its length) of the American govt. officials (past and present). How well would it corroborate with despicable US foreign policy and $ trillions associated with it.

  • DoubleH63

    @Alex

    Lets quote 2 sentences from your 2 bright posts.

    “What an imbecile, everyone should be screened BEFORE becoming a dual citizen.”

    “The other thing, if I was a native Hungarian than who the hell is the government to screen me when I become a citizen of an other country as well.”

    And I am the one who needs to get a brain… right.

    Then you get all exited about Slovakia taking away citizenships and accusing me to want to do the same with people who are dual citizens.
    I did not suggest that – neither did Gyöngyösi.

    So, I ask you again: do you have a fucking clue at all?

    Btw, not everybody is a J3w who is running around with yellow stars on their chest
    nowdays in Hungary, but they should all have a cozy place on those future train-rides.

    • Alex

      “And I am the one who needs to get a brain… right.”
      Yes you tyrant trash

      So, I ask you again: do you have a fucking clue at all?
      I do but sure as hell you don’t have a clue about principles.

      “but they should all have a cozy place on those future train-rides.”
      I rest my case, tyrant nazi scum.

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