December 6th, 2012

Court rules Roma schoolchildren illegally discriminated against in Jobbik-run town

A court in Eger, N Hungary, ruled on Thursday that the authorities illegally segregated Roma children from the mainstream in the high school in Gyongyospata, which is run by the local council.

The case was brought to court by Chance for Children Foundation.

The court also decided that the children in question had been placed in a lower stream of education than their non-Roma peers.

The ruling, which can be appealed, also obliges the school to cease the practice of segregating Roma from non-Roma.

The local council is run by officials from the radical nationalist Jobbik party.

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  • Californicus

    Now watch all the haters come out and blame the Roma for their lack of education.

  • Alex

    I like how it says “the court decided “… yeah they decide reality they don’t find out about it.
    The other thing is ” the authorities”..oh the writer meant to say “the public servants”, right?

    • MagyarViking

      public servants are employed persons, not elected officials
      “Jobbik” politicians in charge of local schools are not public servants, they are elected officials and hence politically responsible
      The real question is if they can be legally responsible for obstructing the law, or not

      • Alex

        All elected “officials” are public servants, they get the consent ( and the money) from me, they are not given the right to push people around (initiate force) from the state or God they get it from me, they just abuse it all the time, I’m talking in general here, and the well trained willing slaves are finding excuses for not recognizing this fact they just like the nanny bureaucrat lording over them. A free society has the people on top not some stinking official on a power trip handing out my money which he extorted from me while pushing people around.

        • MagyarViking

          OK, so you live your libertarian utopia in a bunker in the US MidWest?

          • Alex

            Appeal to ridicule, how lame.

          • MagyarViking

            I have to step down to your level, so…?

          • Alex

            Typical politician, can’t reason so uses every single tactic and rhetoric he can to marginalize others, pathetic. And this is the alternative politics in Hungary? LOL

          • szebbjovot

            Alex, I suggest you ignore this Swedish dog who dares to call himself “MagyarViking”.
            He is nothing more than a Swedish immigrant to Hungary, who hates both Hungary and Hungarians, but why doesnt he leave if he hates it so much?

          • Alex

            I’ll keep that in mind, thanks, I like Swedish people though, but not their socialist system. He should’ve moved to North Korea if he likes power-tripping and talking down to people that much.

          • MagyarViking

            Well, anyone who comes onto a site about a specific case and starts to burst out in generic statements (” I’m talking in general here”) is the Real Politician – just hot-air and no substance

          • Alex

            It’s not the statement that was general it was the recipient of it, again proved yourself to be a real politician trying to twist my words.

          • MagyarViking

            OK, then pls provide an example where this statement of yours is true:
            “A free society has the people on top not some stinking official on a
            power trip handing out my money which he extorted from me while pushing
            people around”

            To what country should I ask my travel-agency to book a trip for me?

          • Alex

            Well that shows a lot of willingness to have a society based on principles and not on the threat of the initiation of force and trampling on individual property rights. So narrow minded. Hit the chair and start reading the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution and their history and the debates behind them, those are a good start though not perfect, since imperfect man cannot have a perfect society without the elimination of decadence and sin. Read some late colonial and early American history. George Washington was offered kingship, but he refused, I bet you’d've started shaking from the opportunity of getting that kind of power. So yeah if you want to change the world why don’t you start with yourself instead of enforcing your decadence on others.

          • MagyarViking

            So, you have nothing to contribute to this thread…and your dream-country is run by the ZOG, so you do have some work cut out for you at home…

            Can you even find Hungary on a map?

          • Alex

            Anyone who reads this conversation can realize that all you have is bad rhetoric, appeal to ridicule and selling yourself as the supreme leader and authority.Freedom failed because of people like you who want to tell others how to live and look down on them as stupid cattle.

          • MagyarViking

            “Freedom failed because of people like you who want to tell others how to live and look down on them as stupid cattle”

            Ehum, I am not the one who, in this thread, claims:
            * “the well trained willing slaves are finding excuses for not recognizing this fact”

            I rest my case

          • Alex

            Yeah another out of the context move. You are so lame. I was talking about people like you who are defending the current hierarchy of powers, willing slaves, not people who want to learn and want to be free or at least open to arguments. What are you doing here anyway, are you trying to convince me? No. Are you lying to yourself? You would not admit it anyway. So you just think everyone reading this is just as stupid as you and doesn’t see you for what you are, tyrant on a high horse power tripping. All you care about is how other perceive you, how sad and pathetic. Go ahead and go to North Korea there you can mandate your little reality.

  • szebbjovot

    Why arent my comments displayed?

    • Californicus

      There still seems to be some problem related to matching comments with website pages.

  • justasking

    Is there any more information as to why these children are placed separately from the rest of their classmates? Is it a matter of not being on the same academic level, for whatever reason?
    This article is a bit vague as to the whys VS assumed ones.

    • MagyarViking

      It seems like the “Chance for Children Foundation” was able to make the case successfully, so I suppose they had some pretty clear cut cases
      Should not be impossible to find that info on the net for an Hungarian?
      Either from the Court itself or the Foundation itself

      • olga

        This report seems to be about kids being segragated in High Schoool – by then it is way to late “not to segragate” – the time to integrate is the Kindergarden level; by high school you cannot just throw these kids in a regular high school class and ask them to keep up when they may have missed years of the basics.

        If high schools are really serious about integration they would have to find a way to have more than one teacher or at least have a teacher’s aid present to deal with the kids who need to catch up. This is not an “original thought” – that’s what the Toronto School Board did for Roma kids when the Board was sincerely committed to integrating these kids who were years behind their proper grade level after missing years of school in whatever European countries they came from.

        While it may be costly up front now but in the long run these kids will hopefully avoid the “real cost to society” by getting a proper education and becoming productive citizens instread of relying on welfare like so many do in Hungary and other European countries. An ounce of prevention etc

        • szebbjovot

          Gypsies have been in Europe for something like 900-700 years, and they still haven’t integrated.
          What makes you think they will integrate now?

    • MagyarViking

      I think this is the link to the foundation as such, which has an English part also, even if I cannot find any translation of this case

      http://www.cfcf.hu/

  • Pole

    Roma people don’t want asimilation. They don’t want to integrate. That’s all fault of them. But propapgandist from mainstream media use that fact for fight against nationalists.

    • MagyarViking

      “Roma people don’t want asimilation”

      Well, according to Fidesz, ethnic Hungarians in neighbouring countries should *not* assimilate, even in places they are a small minority

      So what is good for Hungarians abroad is not good for Roma in Hungary?
      Why should Roma in Hungary assimilate into mainstream Hungarians?

  • szebbjovot

    Oh bullshit.
    It makes more sense to put children with lower learning abilities ( gypsies) and children with normal learning abilities in separate classes, because they then can get the education and care they needed, suited for their ability.

    Also, lets say this “segregation” is true, then it would be interesting to know how much better the learning atmosphere is in the classroom, since the nuisances, the noise makers and the idiots have been segregated away, to give Hungarian children the learning environment they deserve.

    I also want to know the opinions of both Hungarian, and Gypsy children.
    Maybe gypsy children prefer this, because they dont feel intimidated since they cant keep up with the Hungarians?

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