January 24th, 2014

Hungary apologizes at UN for role in Holocaust, says ambassador

Hungary has for the first time in the United Nations taken responsibility for the role it played during the Holocaust, and apologised, Hungary’s UN ambassador Csaba Korosi said on Thursday local time.

“In this form and on behalf of the Hungarian state, nobody had ever expressed in the UN the responsibility of the Hungarian state for [its role in] the Holocaust,” Korosi told MTI.

Korosi said he’d express Hungary’s responsibility in connection with the Holocaust twice on Thursday.

The first apology was expressed at a presser in the morning organised by the UN Office and the Hungarian representative to mark the 70th anniversary of the Jewish and Roma Holocaust. He said he would repeat the apology later in the day at the opening of an exhibition organised by civil organisations, the Carl Lutz Foundation, the Tom Lantos Foundation, the American Hungarian Coalition and the Hungary Initiatives Foundation with the involvement of the Hungarian mission operating next to the world organisation.

“We owe an apology to the victims because the Hungarian state was guilty for the Holocaust. Firstly because it failed to protect its citizens from destruction and secondly because it helped and provided financial resources to the mass murder” Korosi told the press conference in the UN headquarters in New York at the opening event of a series dedicated to the Holocaust.

“Hungarian state institutions at the time [shared responsibility] for the Holocaust. This apology today by the Hungarian state must become part of national memory and identity,” he added in his speech. He also outlined the planned Holocaust memorial events in Hungary during the 2014 memorial year, highlighting rescuers and child victims.

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  • patent kapolcs

    So Hungary has “taken responsibility” and “apologised” for its role in the Holocaust, whatever that means.

    It would have been much more meaningful had Mr. Korosi taken the trouble to list exactly what Hungary’s involvement was during the two and half decades leading up to that national disaster and shame. He could have started with the Horthy-Teleki anti-Semitic laws, starting in 1920 (first in Europe) leading through Teleki’s 2nd and 3rd anti-Semitic laws in the late 1930s, the official Horthy-Teleki-Prohaszka overt anti-Semitism and deplorable propaganda that led to the de-humanisation of Hungarians designated by the “grand-parent” criteria as Jewish (the effect of which lives on today in its corrupting effect in the population at large, some 30% of which declare themselves as “anti-Semitic”), the work restrictions forced on these citizens, the restrictions of personal the theft and deprivation of property, the herding together in ghettos, the forced labour units, the cruel and enthusiastic rounding up by Horthy’s Csendorok, the de-humanizing marches to the railway centres, the herding in cattle cars, often without food and water and the final theft of any remaining property since the prisoners were “going up the chimney”.

    If this government, in Hungary’s name, wished to take responsibility for these events, I suggest it publish a full accounting of the events that lead up to the Hungarian Final Solution detailing the role of various Hungarian governments, of Hungarian officials and the climate they created. If Mr. Korosi needs help in setting out the details I am sure that there are competent Hungarian historians who would set them out for him, as we see indeed in Politics.hu this very day. The text could be used for educational purposes in the schools to cleanse Hungarian society, still bearing the distortions of its self-deceiving past.relations,

    • Hungarian

      What national disaster are you talking about Ferengi boy?
      Your nation’s?

      Get a grip on real life!

    • justasking

      ‘So Hungary has “taken responsibility” and “apologised” for its role in the Holocaust, whatever that means.’
      It means an APOLOGY!!! What you want is revenge, and it ain’t gonna happen.

      • thebetterview

        I’m a bit concerned about this apology. Where at the UN was it made … a bar room, perhaps? I can find no trace of it on the UN General Assembly website, so it was not made at any formal sitting of the Assembly. Nor can I find a reference to it In Magyar Hirlap or Magyar Nemzet. Only the left press is talking of it.

        • justasking

          ‘Where at the UN was it made … a bar room, perhaps? ‘

          Are there bar rooms in the UN?

          —————-
          ‘Nor can I find a reference to it In Magyar Hirlap or Magyar Nemzet. Only the left press is talking of it.’

          Yeah, I’d like to help, unfortunately, I’m not interested…and I’m not interested, in things, that I am not interested in.

    • 1Magyar

      Again just a fast Google search feel free to cross reference. Don’t throw stones in glass houses (note that I didn’t leave out the dirty bits about the Hungarians either):

      In Hungary, Europe’s most rapid and extensive deportation of Jews by train to the concentration camps occurred. Eichmann directed this process with help from the gestapo, but here again, the Hungarian gendarmerie and the Jewish councils assembled the lists of Jews for transportation. 26In 46 days, approximately 250 to 300,000 Hungarian Jews were gassed in the summer of 1944, immediately upon their arrival at Auschwitz in Poland. Dr. Rudolph Kastner, the former associate vice president of the Zionist Association of Hungary, survived the war after he had co-operated with Eichmann in organizing the deportations in Hungary. Kastner was murdered in Jerusalem in 1957. Hilberg also quotes Eichmann as stating in his memoirs that Kastner:

      “…agreed to keep the Jews from resisting deportation — even keep order in the camps — if I would close my eyes and let a few thousand young Jews emigrate illegally to Palestine. It was a good bargain.”

      • Standard

        “250 to 300,000 Hungarian Jews were gassed in the summer of 1944, immediately upon their arrival at Auschwitz”

        Auschwitz didn’t have the capacity to handle such large order.
        In all its existence it may or may not cremated 80 thousand bodies, most of them died of diseases. The “gas chambers” were built in 1948 for the tourists, ask the curator of the museum.
        It’s not “holocaust denial” to get the facts, history is written by the winners, and they accepted the jewish version. Inflating the number of victims turned out to be a very profitable business, we’re talking about many billions of dollars. It should be obvious that it’s in the best interest of the holocaust industry to hang onto their claim and punish everyone who dares to present evidence that doesn’t fit into the myth. For some reason jews were the only victims of WWII, the other tens of millions who died or suffered terribly are rarely even mentioned, and haven’t received a penny in reparations. Think about that.

        • thebetterview

          Well made points, Standard. I add:

          Hungary became a German military operations zone on 19 March 1944, when the German army occupied it. It is commonly claimed that the deportation of Hungarian Jews began in May 1944, but were then forbidden by
          decree of the Regent, Admiral Horthy, on 6 July 1944. This decree remained in force right up to 16 October 1944, when the Germans forced the Regent’s
          abdication, the day after he sued for armistice. That leaves only 2 months (May and June 1944) across which deportations could have happened while the Regent was in power. Could 400,000+ people possibly be collected and removed from a country in that short space of time, even supposing that deportations were
          happening 24/7? That is hardly credible.

          By early September 1944, Soviet forces had crossed the Hungarian border. With Allied bombs (US, British and Soviet) spasmodically battering Hungary since early April 1944 (Budapest was carpet bombed 37 times), it
          is hardly credible that the very limited Hungarian manpower was being expended on the unwieldy task of assembling and entraining Jews for deportation.
          Besides, by then, the Germans forces were in full retreat on the Eastern Front. That Auschwitz would be abandoned imminently was perfectly obvious. So to where were Jews being deported after early September 1944? Surely no-one would seriously suggest that they were being deported to the Eastern Front.

  • Democrat

    The headline is sadly misleading. Hungary has not apologised at the UN. It has uttered some apologetic words on the fringes of the organisation. The General Assembly is the place to do it if you want to make the claim to have apologised at the UN.

    And also, to say “We owe an apology” is somewhat different to saying “we apologise”. But of course admitting wrong and apologising comes hard to most Hungarians, particularly to the leaders, from whichever side they may come.

    • ViktorZoroban

      Hungarians never made a stupid decision; we’re way too smart for that. All the racism and slaughter didn’t happen because we wanted to, but because they made us do it. We were as innocent as a nun working in a condom factory, thinking she’s making sleeping bags for mice.

      • patriot

        How funny is that??? Thanks!

    • justasking

      ‘And also, to say “We owe an apology” is somewhat different to saying “we apologise’

      The apology was offered, if it’s not accepted, it’s not accepted. Nobody has control, over another persons response. The point is, a wrong WAS acknowledged and that’s not trivial.

      • Democrat

        I agree that a wrong was acknowledged. Please listen very carefully to the speech and see if you can actually identify the apology. He says it is owed, he says it is the right time but he DOES NOT APOLOGISE.

        • justasking

          ‘“We owe an apology to the victims because the Hungarian state was guilty for the Holocaust. Firstly because it failed to protect its citizens from destruction and secondly because it helped and provided financial resources to the mass murder” Korosi told the press conference in the UN headquarters in New York at the opening event of a series dedicated to the Holocaust.’

          ————–

          ‘DOES NOT APOLOGISE’

          ‘I owe you an apology’, I would like to apologize’ …is the same thing. He didn’t say ‘F*^$king Ooops did he?

          YOU’RE not satisfied with the apology, I don’t think you ever will be, and that’s fine, that your prerogative.

          Just remember, that most victims of WWII…haven’t even gotten THAT.

  • justasking

    So when are the Allied forces, going to apologize, for not stopping the Holocaust sooner? Railway tracks could have been bombed, preventing rail cars going to their destination…the camps themselves, could have been bombed, to prevent further torture and murders etc….

    The US knew, back in 38′ exactly what was going on from intel. You’d think, with amount of bombings scattered across Europe, a couple three could have been lobbed in that general direction?

    • Standard

      Americans and the British did more than their fair share of war crimes.
      They bombed Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden and many other cities, murdering innocent civilians, for the purpose of “demoralizing” enemy troops. Germans got a Nuremberg trial and hanging for lesser crimes, the other side received medals. Lies, hypocrisy and double standards. Works for the US and Israel, still terrorizing the world. So they could not find any WMD in Iraq, they switched to “liberating the Iraqi people”, bringing “freedom and democracy”. Look at what’s going on in Iraq now.
      When will the US apologize for its bloody and unnecessary wars? When will Israel apologize for the crimes against the Palestinian people? Never? Of course they are always right, and the rest of the world is wrong.

      • justasking

        Show me a country, that doesn’t have blood on their hands.

        It’s nothing new, that Governments pursue policies that are not in their best interest, over looking feasible alternatives.

        • Standard

          “Show me a country, that doesn’t have blood on their hands”

          Show me a country that’s responsible for more deaths and suffering than the US.
          American exceptionalism, interventionism, undying support for large multinational corporations and the Israeli lobby, plus the need to feed the military industrial complex have resulted in many tragic events in the 20th century. It would be too long to list all the atrocities committed by the help of the US, supporting dictators in South America, South Asia, and the Middle East. Europe could have done much better without US intervention in both world wars.
          America hasn’t fought a just war since about 1812.
          Now count how many wars they got involved since than, and add to that their involvement in financial and military aid supplied to other rogue states.

          • justasking

            ‘America hasn’t fought a just war since about 1812’

            They tried to invade and conquer a country, known today as Canada…forgive me, if I have another opinion, of this historical event or than it being ‘just’.

          • Ion

            Russia is more responsible than US and Germany: 100 millions deaths caused by communism+ethnical cleansing in Caucasus during Tzarist times+endless wars fought in foreign territory since 1700

    • MokusMan

      Well, they had intel that jews were being sent to concentration camps, but there was no indication as to how systematic the slaughter was in those places – and besides, the killing didn’t really ramp up into high gear until 1943. By that point the Nazis were starting to shift to a defensive position and Hitler resolved that, if nothing else, he was going to rid Europe of the Jews.

      • Hungarian

        Sure you know what kind of intel they had.
        You were there on those intel meetings, weren’t ya?
        Never, but never acknowledge anything that might shed better light to Hungary.
        Oh, please never!
        Stick to your victimized sufferer role for the next thousand years, until ppl have enough of your bull shit once and for all.

        • MokusMan

          Please do share your intelligence sources. My account is supported by every history book written thus far.

          • Hungarian

            Oh come off man from the tree….
            Do ppl write books about the intel they have?
            The name of the game is that you shouldn’t know what I know about what you are hiding…

          • MokusMan

            …What? I can’t understand your english. I’m not trying to offend you, I really don’t understand what you’re saying.

      • justasking

        but there was no indication as to how systematic the slaughter was in those places’

        A few months ago, I bought a book titled ‘The Zimmermann Telegram’ by Barbara W. Tuchman, along with one or 2 others from her.
        This book in particular, is about an intercepted telegraph that was meant for the President of Mexico, asking him to join Germany and Japan, by invading the US. The reward would be, recovery of lands, that had been lost to the Americans…sound familiar?

        My point was/is, that it was known back in 38’…steps could have been made, to at least slow the whole process down. Even if only a 100000 lives could have been saved, it would have been better than nothing.

        As for upping the ante in 43′, agreed, Germany obviously knew somehow, that the walls were closing in; decided to make that last ditch effort, to take as many people (they had deemed unworthy) along with them. It’s tragic.

        My heart goes out to anybody, who has been put in a position of vulnerability and made to pay the price for another’s vision.

      • justasking

        I want to apologize, if my first response came across as a bit confusing.

        My referencing that book, was simply to point out the capabilities countries had in gathering of top-secret information during WWI.

        I can only imagine, how much more sophisticated it became 30 years later, during WWII…that’s why, when you said

        ‘but there was no indication as to how systematic…’
        I believe the information was out there on that level, for all to see.

    • Aloof

      Ahhh… more of that “all victims” stuff eh?

      The Nazis declared war of the US in 1938. The US didn’t enter the war to “save the jews” but to defeat Hitler. The Japs (the Nazis and Hungary’s ally) attacked Pearl Harbor in 1941. Initially the US didn’t want to get suckered into a war on 2 fronts (the Axis’s plan BTW) so their only role was to materially support Britain and the USSR. The US military didn’t even enter the “European” Theater until late ’42/ early ’43 when they landed in North Africa and Italy. We turned the tide of the war in the Allie’s favor in 1944 when we landed on the beaches of Normandy.

      The Nazis original “final solution” was the Madagascar Plan. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan but that was scrapped after they lost the Battle of Britain.
      No amount of white washing, wringing of hands, rationalizing, pointing fingers, revising or denying is going to change the historical fact that Hungarians knowingly sent around 500,000 of their fellow citizens to their deaths with great vigor and zeal at lightning speed (6 weeks, incredible).
      The Americans never sent a single jew to the Nazi gas chambers and to even think of somehow trying to lay that at their feet is frankly disgusting.
      I don’t even see why the USA should even give a shit about Hungary anyway given the fact that they’ve only been a friend and a refuge for them going all the way back to Kossuth in 1848 and for folks like Wass, the ’56ers and even saving Horthy’s ass. What the hell has Hungary ever done FOR the USA?

      • procastinator

        Well in 12 December 1941 Hungaey Declared war on the US , I guess that is something

      • justasking

        ‘Ahhh… more of that “all victims” stuff eh?’

        Oh, would you please, retract your claws?

        ————-
        ‘The US didn’t enter the war to “save the jews” but to defeat Hitler’.

        I never said they did.

        Hungary’s being lamb basted, for not having saved enough people….my position is, MORE could have been saved, if camps and railway tracks had been put out of commission.

        Would you agree with that?

        Mine, is obviously coming from a moral stand point, as opposed to a strategic one.
        —————-

      • Hungarian

        What the fuck?
        What has Hungary ever done for the USA?
        Man, the US fucking president divided Hungary after WWI and you ask us what the fuck we have done for ya?

        Get fucking off our chest Jewish American lobby.
        In prisoner exterminator of native Indians, enslaver an kidnappers of millions of blacks!

        • procastinator

          Yes unlike Europe , that did not kidnap or enslave a single black person , also I thought that you don’t really think that black people are real people ,

          • Hungarian

            Hungary did not exterminate the ppl it has encountered in the carpathian basin.
            Unlike the Spanish, Portuguese or English did in America.

            I have nothing against black ppl, but I sure don’t want Hungary to become an African culture, or a fucked up mix like the US.

          • justasking

            ‘Hungary did not exterminate the ppl it has encountered in the carpathian basin’

            You might wanna rethink your position here, if for one second, you believe, that back in 895, people didn’t parish, for Hungary to become a reality.

          • Hungarian

            Well, a thousand years later we have Slovakian speaking, Romanian speaking countries around us.
            Tell me about one Indian speaking country in the USA…

          • justasking

            First off, it’s more like 1100 year history.

            Secondly, there is no countries WITHIN in the US…the US IS the country! Now, there are Reservations, where Native Americans DO speak their own language.

          • Hungarian

            There you go making my point.
            We should have reservations in Hungary where Slovaks speak Slovakian.

            This would be based of course your democratic US model…

          • justasking

            You have NO point, is my point

          • Hungarian

            Yes you are making my point.
            There are no Indian countries within the US where millions of native Indians have lived before the arrival of the Spanish and Brittish white man.

            They live in a reservation within the US.

            If Hungary had follow the same US democratic principles, there would be no Slovakia today, but a reservation of Slovak speaking ppl in Hungary.

            You can stick your head in the sand.
            Be my guest.

          • justasking

            ‘There are no Indian countries within the US’

            As I said before…the US IS a country, that comprises of ‘States’, hence the name …The United States of America!!!!

            Europe, on the other hand, is comprised of COUNTRIES!!!!

          • Hungarian

            It would be like me saying that Hungary is the county and fuck slovakians.

          • justasking

            Well, Hungary IS a country, and go ahead and ‘f*%& whoever you want.

          • Hungarian

            So you get the point.
            The Woodrow guy gets to implement racism in Hungary and divide it along racial lines, but keeps native Americans in so called reservations within the fucking borders of the US.

            Well, anyway what the fuck.
            The US is going to be swallowed into Latin America sooner or later.

            Who gives a shit about them.

          • justasking

            The only thing I ‘got’ now? Is a headache from you, going in circles.

          • Hungarian

            Yep, ppl get headache when they need to use their head!
            Welcome to the club.

          • justasking

            ‘Welcome to the club’
            Oh, I doubt that you have a headache.

        • justasking

          ‘Man, the US fucking president divided Hungary after WWI’

          Not exactly….

          • Hungarian

            It was Woodraws’ idea to partition Hungary along racial lines.
            I guess the US started racism in Hungary.

          • justasking

            Yes, it was based on his 14 points…but, out if those 14, only 1 was used, hence America refusing to sign right away.
            ———
            It was based on ETHNIC lines you dodo bird, not racial lines!!!!

          • Hungarian

            So how are ethnic lines different from lines between races?
            Please enlighten me.

          • Aloof

            Here ya go…
            http://www.differencebetween.net/science/nature/difference-between-ethnicity-and-race/
            If you put a Polak, Slovak, German and a Hungarian in a line-up (white, same features, hair color, height, etc…) I’d love for you to correctly identify their nationality for all 4. You’re a better man than me if you could.

          • justasking

            ‘You’re a better man than me if you could’

            I’d simply ask them. Is that man enough for you?

          • Aloof

            🙂

          • justasking

            Sorry Aloof,, I thought that post was directed to me.

          • Aloof

            No worries….

          • Hungarian

            Nice try to blur the lines between races!
            My hats are off to you!
            But am I a Slovakian if I speak Hungarian?
            Answer me streight!

          • justasking

            ‘But am I a Slovakian if I speak Hungarian?’
            No, that would make you multilingual.

          • Hungarian

            I did not say I can speak Slovakian.
            I have asked am I a Slovakian if I speak Hungarian?

          • justasking

            ‘I have asked am I a Slovakian if I speak Hungarian?’

            I don’t know…what’s your ethnicity?

          • Hungarian

            Well, you know we still have borders and different languages in Europe. So I guess if I speak Hungarian in Europe that makes me Hungarian?

          • justasking

            If you say so…

          • Aloof

            Sure bud. You apparently like exposing yourself as a narrow minded not too bright or educated tiresome anti-Semite posing as some sort of an example of a “true Hungarian.”…. that lives in Japan. You speak Japanese, does that make you Japanese?
            I know black/ Hungarian folks born in Hungary (products of US GIs while in Hungary 1996-2000) who have always lived in Hungary since they’ve been born, speak perfect Hungarian, love their country and can be seen on every edition of “megastar.” You want them exterminated or deported too?

          • Hungarian

            Who the fuck are you to judge people’s brightness or education?
            Can you fucking read a single Japanese sentence?
            Go fuck yourself you minority fucking advocate!

            When in Rome act like the Romans you loud fuck of minority rights!

          • Aloof

            Why would I care about anything Japanese? Because you do? The Japs have always had some sort of superiority complex and suicidal tendencies. No wonder you like it there.

          • Stefan

            Don’t waste your time with Hungarian extremists. They are the worst plague in this world. Claiming that everything was their from every nation around them. Even though their language is the only one which is not a European language and all the other states have solid proves of the history of their land long before Hungarians came in Europe. Hungary was created artificial by Austria and used them as “meat” for their conquests.

          • justasking

            Google it!

          • Hungarian

            Cheap escape..

          • justasking

            Why are you writing under ‘Aloof’s’ handle?

          • Hungarian

            I never write under anyone’s handle.
            I do have principles!

          • justasking

            Oh, sorry…it’s just that 2 seconds ago, that ‘Cheap escape’ post showed up from ‘Aloof’ in blue writing, now shows up as ‘Hungarian’ in grey.

            So, yeah ya are. Could you please just stop it? Get a handle, register it and move on will ya?

          • Hungarian

            I would have registered a long time ago, had that Jewish fuck not taken my handle only in vain.

            As I said I have principles.
            This is my handle, and I will keep using it, even if that Jewish fuck registered it for fucking a contributor here who does not share his fucking opinion.

            Will ya understand it?

          • justasking

            Whatever, just write under your own name and not others…that’s all I’m saying.

          • Hungarian

            I write under my own name, unlike that Jewish fuck

          • justasking

            You really are thick sometimes!!!

          • Hungarian

            Don’t blame me.
            I have started out as a very nice and open minded guy here.
            Up until a very nice day that sicko Jew jumped into one of the threads calling me a nazi.

            That did it for me.
            I want all Jews to fuck off.

          • justasking

            How is it my fault, that you don’t understand the differences between ‘race’ and ‘ethnicity’?

        • Vidra

          You mean the same US fucking president who said that there’s no need for checks and balances if you have good government? Orbán seems to have adopted that one of Woodrow Wilson’s ideas with great enthusiasm, even if the nazionalist wing of Fidesz have problems with self-determination.

        • Aloof

          The United States never ratified Trianon.. At the time President Wilson said: “The proposal to dismember Hungary is absurd” and later Sir Winston Churchill said: “Ancient poets and theologians could not imagine such suffering, which Trianon brought to the innocent.”

          http://www.americanhungarianfederation.org/news_trianon.htm
          Need to get over your obsession with jews man. Appears to be affecting your mental health. They’re just not that important or worth it. The Holocaust is the only thing that keeps them relevant and they’re not going to let that go easily.

          • justasking

            Is someone ‘spoofing’ your handle?

          • szgp

            Churchill blamed the dismemberment of Hungary on the need to placate the French population. After it proved politically impossible to move Germany’s boarders behind the Rhine, because of the resistance in the U.S. from the large German American population. Also Wilson had some ideas about national self determination for the different ethnic groups in the Austro-Hungarian Empire. I don’t doubt that they made those statements, but politicians tend to cover the field. Churchill made some rather derogatory comments about Hungary when it moved to protect the large Hungarian population, that had come under Slovak rule, at the offset of the second world war. At that time that was more politically appropriate. The back tracking by these politicians after Hungary’s dismemberment is an indication of their sense that the populations and power centers in their respective countries saw the dismemberment as unfair and a disadvantage to their interests. A peaceful redressing of Trianon was in the works, and then the second world war broke out.

          • Hungarian

            Now that is what I call quality posting, and enjoy learning.

          • Aloof

            Uhhh… you ever think there was a little “back-tracking” because Germany and Hungary declared WAR on them?

          • szgp

            You just explained how you manage to confuse History.

    • Aloof

      Well in 1944 the jews themselves asked Churchill and Roosevelt to bomb the camps to stop the killing and Churchill wanted the US to do the bombing. Roosevelt didn’t want to because he didn’t want to take resources away from the ground war and figured the Nazis would just rebuild them anyway.
      http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/timeline/ww2time.htm
      The horror for Americans regarding Hungary (we WERE enemies BTW at that time) wasn’t that they were sending Hungarian jews to be exterminated by the Nazis but Americans had/have a hard time coming to grips with the thought of any country would even think of sacrificing their own citizens in such an evil fashion. Not exactly Hungary’s best moment and the saddest thing is there are still those kind of Hungarians that exist today further supported by the fact that many comment right here.

      • justasking

        ‘but Americans had/have a hard time coming to grips with the thought of any country would even think of sacrificing their own citizens in such an evil fashion.’

        Oh really?

        Did you all ‘suddenly’ forget the treatment of your Native American Indian community, your own ‘Holocaust’, that lasted some 200 years with your African American community, by US hands?

        Not exactly, the US’s best moments….

        • Aloof

          The USA (1776) is a young country, less than 250 years old and yes we went through some growing pains that were less than moral or admirable. We have our baggage and burdens but we’re trying to deal with them and I’ll even add not very successfully right now.
          But remember North America which includes today’s USA was primarily settled by European Colonialists who were the ones who brought the slaves over in concert with the Africans that sold them to them. We had a little civil war about that as I recall. We also had a Revolutionary war that bounced the English out as I recall also. It was the Europeans who were the first Imperialists and “Globalists” especially the English, French, Dutch and the Spaniards who did a nice number on Latin America.

          • Hungarian

            Well put.
            The English, spaniards, Portuguese and Dutch and even the fucking French who were the ones on the first place to introduce racism.
            The Germans took it to the next level!

  • patriot

    They should to apologize to Slovaks, Romanians,Croats, Serbs, Ukrainians Austrians Gypsies, for the atrocities committed against them after the Vienna Award! 1940! ,

    • Hungarian

      Fuck you too Jewish excrement!

      • patriot

        Hunny, you must be a big dick entirely 🙂

  • Corrigator

    Soooooooo….. the collective discrimination of the Jews then was wrong….. however, a collective apology now would be in order. Fat chance.

  • Standard

    The jewish lobby is far more powerful than most people know.
    They pushed us into this shameless “apology” 70 years after the war ended.
    Jewish pressure groups can do anything they want, no one is allowed to stand up for them, they made that illegal. Completely unopposed, out of control, they will stop at nothing to extort as much money as possible form an already broke country, and our spineless, corrupt politicians will help them all the way.
    You must be blind not to see where this is going. There’s no “anti-semitism” in Hungary, but apparently there’s a need for it. They call it “anti-semitism” we could call it self defense.

    • Hungarian

      This is exactly what they have been doing 80 or so years ago.
      They got too comfty in their skin.
      Some of them even stated that without Jews there is no Hungarian art or industry.
      I see they are trying to move into that direction again, but there is a slight flaw on the plan.
      Underestimating Hungarian patriotism!

  • Gabriella Gilicze

    American and British diplomas specifically asked XII. Pius XII not to publicly protest against the deportation of Hungarian Jews. However, the Pope did this letter to the Hungarian government. Sir Martin Gilbert, the British Jewish historian, an internationally recognized expert on the Holocaust published in 2002, The Righteous: The Unsung Heroes of the volume was the Holocaust, wrote 25 thousand Jews were hidden by the Catholic faithful and the Catholic institutions in Budapest.When the Jews ask for forgiveness from a people of Hungarian that ruined the country in 70 years, and persecuted the Christians?Hm?

    • Hungarian

      Exactly

  • gabi

    Ah, so Hungarians can apologize at UN for Jews and Gipsies holocaust, but they cannot apologize for all those hundreds and thousands of Romanians – men, women and children – killed by Horthyst troops at Ip and Trasnea and other Romanian villages during Hungarian occupation in Northern Transylvania, they cannot apologize for burned villages, for unborn children killed with bayonets in their mother’s wombs and for Orthodox priests and other men buried alive, or for forced Magyarization of Romanian family names, right? They cannot apologize for being guides for Red Army against Romanian villages after 23 August 1944, saying them that there are German terrorists so Red Army could kill innocent Romanians? It’s that so? And today, when modern Hungarian politicians are erecting statues of war criminals in some Romanian cities and Romanians try to stop them, Hungarians accuse Romanians for being extremists and they ask for protection for Hungarian culture – a culture of hate? Wtf logic is this??? There are documents, pictures, books written to prove all these crimes! Come on, people, wake up and document yourself! Apologize for ALL the crimes and let’s go on together in peace!

  • Bulache

    For Jewish and Roma? What about Romanians, what about Ip and Trasnea, where you massacred elder, children and women all together?

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