March 3rd, 2014

Young Hungarians in Western Ukraine leave for Hungary on false fears, says Nemeth

Reports that thousands of Hungarians are crossing over to Hungary from Transcarpathia in Ukraine are false, the Hungarian foreign ministry’s state secretary told public television on Monday morning.

However, a few hundred young Hungarians have set off from Vynohradiv (Nagyszolos), on false rumours that the army was mobilising in Ukraine, Zsolt Nemeth told public TV M1.

He said in fact the situation was that Ukraine has put its army on stand-by and Hungarians with Ukrainian citizenship need not be concerned about being drafted to the army, said Nemeth.

The operative staff set up by Budapest to coordinate Hungarian measures concerning the Ukrainian conflict has made preparations for every eventuality including the arrival of a large number of refugees, Nemeth said.

Border crossing activity was normal on Sunday along the Ukrainian border section, the police said on Monday.

Nemeth refuted claims by the opposition that the Hungarian government had failed to state a position concerning the Russian intervention in Ukraine, noting that Foreign Minister Janos Martonyi had repeatedly stated that Russia’s move into the Crimea Peninsula was a clear violation of Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty.

Nemeth called it important to work out an international mechanism based on which the crisis in Ukraine could be handled and a dialogue could be started between Ukraine and Russia.

He said that beside the leading powers and the EU, international organisations such as the UN, the OSCE and the Council of Europe must be included in that process.

The Budapest Memorandum, signed by the United States, Britain, Russia and Ukraine in 1994 which guarantees Ukraine’s territorial unity, could also serve as a framework for addressing the issue of the current crisis in Ukraine, Nemeth said.

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  • ViktorZoroban

    Putin will show us the way!

    • wolfi

      To the men’s toilet?

      • MagyarViking

        Yes, Whorban looks a bit like he “needs to go”…but it is that thing with dual toilette seats that is puzzling Whorban a bit – should Vlad and he do it together?

  • MagyarViking

    Hungarians with Ukrainian citizenship need not be concerned about being drafted to the army, said Nemeth
    +++

    I find this staement strange, there cannot be any exceptions for Hungarians, then in Ukraine ONLY the Ukrainian citizenship counts legally
    And why should the Hungarian Minority be excluded from the draft?

    • FUCeausescu

      Because it would be a little bit like the Jews fighting for the Nazis. Same a-hole Ukrainian government that caused the conflict to beggin with by making sticking their fists down the throats of ethnic minorities top priority should not expect one minority to go kill another.

      • Aloof

        That’s a more than curious remark. So you’re equating ethnic Transcarpathian Ruthenian Hungarians (who are magyarized polish/czech slav Ruthenians) with jews and the Ukraine as the Nazis?
        WOW!

        • Reality Check

          Yes, the stupidity reached a new zenith with that comment.

      • MagyarViking

        If you are a citizen in any country you fight for it or you move
        As simple as that
        As you may know I have had a bunch of ethich Hungarians employed (before Fidesz Fast Track Citizenship made them go directly to Austria and Germany for work) and no one of them ever complained that they had any major problems living in Ukraine
        Seems like you are a tool for pro-Putin propaganda, or can you specify any anti-Hungarian actions this year_
        Verifiable acts, not just romours

        • Curious George

          “If you are a citizen in any country you fight for it or you move”.

          Exactly. That’s one of the responsibilities of citizenship. You either defend the country from the invader or work to change it from within.

          • MagyarViking

            A touching story on standing firm to your oath and treason:
            http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/03/ukraine-navy-officers-defect-russian-crimea-berezovsky?CMP=twt_gu

            Amazingly that the journalists could actually do this interview and that in the total open

            The bad news is that it may be that the Russians are deploying Black Ops tasked with killing Russians to create an excuse to perform the 2nd step of the invasion, Eastern Ukraine, the mainland. This could happen inside 24-48 hours

          • Curious George

            Respect to those who defied Beresovsky and stayed. My hats off to them regardless of the final outcome. If Berezsovsky was not ready to be navy chief, he shouldn’t have taken the position. Fucking coward.
            Black ops? Putin will kill his own people to further his agenda. He is the most dangerous person on earth today.

          • MagyarViking

            I found these two articles that may be interesting about the tactical and strategical aim and results for Putin:

            https://russiamil.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/putins-potentially-costly-blunder-in-ukraine/

            http://inmoscowsshadows.wordpress.com/2014/03/02/putins-pyrrhic-crimea-campaign/

          • Curious George

            Thanks. The 2nd article is quite good. I think Putin would have erased any credibility as a dialogue partner for years to come if there is major bloodshed in Ukraine. Any victory for him in Ukraine will be a major loss for Russia and Russians.

          • FUCeausescu

            Even when that country turns against you and their chauvinistic policies are in fact the drivers of current conflict? In this case I think conscientious objection is a very appropriate stance.

          • Curious George

            He was not a conscientious objector. I lived in Ukraine in 2004/2005 in Odessa (not far from Crimea), and have many Russian speaking Ukrainian friends. Language is not an issue for invasion, since that is an issue which Ukrainians are trying to deal with, and there will be policies and mistakes. The important point was no Russians were being killed anywhere in Ukraine. I have a Russian in my family (from Kyrgyztan), and I have also spent almost 3 years in going to all parts of Russia in the mid 90s. I have nothing against Russians, and I like generally them. As someone who served my own country’s military for more than 20 years, I’ll say straight up Berezovsky was a traitor.

          • MagyarViking

            “their chauvinistic policies are in fact the drivers of current conflict?”
            So, you do not like a decision in Romania and then Hungary should immediately attack and occupy Erdely?

            Is that your interpretation of international law – that countries should attack as soon and as much as possible?
            Without any sign of provocation?
            How many Russian speakers in Ukraine was physically hurt by a language-law was repealled?
            How many….

        • FUCeausescu

          Yes, the first day the chauvinistic pigs came to power, they repealed the minority language law. That qualifies as an anti-Hungarian action. It seems to me you are the pro-fascist propaganda tool around here, since you think the very ethnic Hungarians hurt by the new government’s policies should go fight against others who are also hurt by them. You are a sick fascist.

          • MagyarViking

            Idiot, that legal act had nothing to do with Hungarians, it was to protect the Ukrainian language which is the language under real threat in Ukraine today

      • Reality Check

        Yes of course like the Jews and Nazis, because the Ukrainian government is rounding up ethnic Hungarians and sending them via cattle cars to detention camps to be slaughtered.

        The old language law is still place, the Ukrainian leader tabled the ill-conceived new language law.

        Fists down the throats – a bit melodramatic. Please give me an example of how the Hungarian minority has had a fist rammed down its throat.

        Ukrainian government caused the Russian invasion? So, you side with Russia. Have you forgotten?

        • FUCeausescu

          No they are not, but they are no friends of ethnic minorities either as shown by their move to hit at them the first day they came to power. For Ethnic Hungarians to go and fight against ethnic Russians who are pushing back against these Chauvinist pigs would be ethically very wrong, therefore they should do all they can not to be used for those purposes. Conscientious objection clause seems very apropriate at this point, given that it is Ukrainian chauvinism that sparked the current conflict to begin with.

          • Reality Check

            “given that it is Ukrainian chauvinism that sparked the current conflict to begin with.”

            You are an idiot pushing Russian propaganda.

          • FUCeausescu

            And you are an “enlightened” supporter of fascist chauvinists.

          • Reality Check

            You are an idiot who equivocates the idea that “Because it would be a little bit like the Jews fighting for the Nazis.”

            That statement has zeroed your credibility on this issue.

            I am a supporter of removing the deeply corrupt and anti-democratic regime that ruled Ukraine and stole the Ukrainians people’s wealth to support tyne vanity of its “leaders”. A government that would order its snippers to shoot demonstrators, the vast vast majority who were either armed with clubs or nothing at all (nurse shot in head by sniper.)

            I hope that the new leadership of Ukraine acts in a more just and enlightened manner that the previous regime. One thing is clear, the previous regime had to go.

            You are simple-minded if you think those us who are appalled by Russia’s moves and the behavior of the previous Ukraine government are supporting chauvinist fascists.

          • MagyarViking

            ” it is Ukrainian chauvinism that sparked the current conflict to begin with”
            and the only thing you have come up with was a language law that which never was repealled, then the President never signed it…

            This is an article on how Ukrainians view the language question:
            http://euromaidanpr.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/russian-minority-language-in-ukraine-faq-2/

            1. Ukraine is not ‘divided’ by language.
            2. Russian language was always protected and encouraged by Ukraine’s 1996 Constitution and all other laws.
            3. Russian schools hold an enviable position in Ukraine.
            4. Ukraine ratified the 2006 European Charter for Regional or Minority Languages… Russia did not.
            5. Yanukovych’s 2012 “Language Law” aimed to eliminate the Ukrainian language.
            6. Ukrainians are the ones with legitimate fears for their language and culture.Ukrainians are the real Minority in their own country.
            7. Rights of Ukrainians in Russia are systematically violated.

  • Aloof

    “Nemeth refuted claims by the opposition that the Hungarian government had failed to state a position concerning the Russian intervention in Ukraine, noting that Foreign Minister Janos Martonyi had repeatedly stated that Russia’s move into the Crimea Peninsula was a clear violation of Ukraine’s territorial integrity and sovereignty.”
    That’s an outright lie and frankly it’s Orban’s job as the leader of the country to make it crystal clear that Hungary flatly rejects and condemns Putin’s actions.
    All Martonyi did was pull the old Commie trick of getting “sick” when the EU and Brussels delegation lead by the Polish and French that went to Kiev to oust Yanukovich.
    Orban is the ONLY leader in the EU and CEE that has failed to do so.
    So he’s a coward and a Putin loving traitor whore, period.

    • Procastinator

      well if history is anything to go by , if the situation escalates you would rather have Orbi on the side of Puti , given Hungarys track record off always betting on the wrong horse , this is just a classic case of history repeating itself .
      And if the situation escalates I am sure there will be people here whining about the unfairness of the following repercussions .
      Just a though

      • MagyarViking

        Clearly “Jobbik” and some/many inside Fidesz (like PutinPutaleto) are positioning themselves for a new First Vienna Award of 1938, but now with Putin for Carpathia
        By Whorban keeping a low profile he is feeding these groups so he will win their votes and if Putin loses, he will be the 1st on the anti-Putin Barricade

      • wolfi

        But: “one of Marx’s most quoted[6]
        statements, that history repeats itself, “the first as tragedy, then as
        farce”, referring respectively to Napoleon I and to his nephew Louis
        Napoleon (Napoleon III):”
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Eighteenth_Brumaire_of_Louis_Napoleon

  • Hungarian

    Autonomy for Hungarians now!

    • Aloof

      Especially in Japan…

      • Reality Check

        Down with sushi, up with pogasca!

        • Hungarian

          Just love how you Ferengi fucks make a fun out of everything.
          I bet you guys are getting an orgasm on the sufferings of ethnic Hungarians.
          You’ll rott in your own hell.

          • Reality Check

            It’s you we are making fun of, not ethnic Hungarians.

            I have ethnic Hungarian relatives living in Slovenia. I fully support the right of ethnic Hungarians to practice their language and live their culture, just as my family did.

            So, no special hell for me. Hopefully a heaven full of palinka, pogasca, and szép lányok.

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