March 8th, 2014

Hungary to mark WWI centenary with permanent exhibition, mobile museums

To mark the anniversary of the outbreak of the First World War, Hungary’s Museum of Military History will set up a new permanent exhibition on the subject, while another exhibition will sail along the River Danube, Defence Minister Csaba Hende told a press conference on Friday.

There are plans to set up a third exhibition in railway carriages to tour the war’s fronts. Tours will take place on the western front in 2016 and the eastern one in 2017, Hende added.

The minister said the events of WWI had had a serious impact on life in Hungary, referring to the Trianon Peace Treaty, which concluded the war in 1920 and ceded two-thirds of Hungary’s territory to neighbouring countries, as well as the ideologies of bolshevism and fascism, which he said were rooted in that treaty.

Hende noted that over 660,000 Hungarian soldiers had died, were injured or were taken prisoner of war “leaving no Hungarian family unaffected by that historic disaster”.

Hende said that compilation of the names of victims was under way, and noted that the original lists had been destroyed in the 1950s. So far, he said, over 100,000 Hungarian names have been identified in Austria’s archives, which will be published on the Hungarian defence ministry’s website.

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  • Hungarian

    The best way to remember this is by demanding rights and autonomy from the streets of Kassa to Temesvar.

    Anything less is not much value….

    • seinean

      If any autonomy will ever be requested on the streets of Timișoara it won’t be a “Hungarian” (5-6% of the city’s population) autonomy

      • szebbjovot

        WHy not? You rumanians had no problems annexing the city when you were just a small minority there.

        • Aloof

          Feel sorry for ya man. You’re going to die a young and bitter man if you can’t just get on with reality. How does that help “the cause?” You have any kids yet? If you don’t then do that first.

          • szebbjovot

            I am the one who is bitter??

            You are literally the stereotype of an angry old man rocking backwards and forwards in his chair and spitting, huffing and puffing at everyone/everything.

          • http://politicsinhungary.wordpress.com/ Leto مؤدّب
          • szebbjovot

            So much hate and anger can’t be good for anyone’s health… :D

            Btw, check out Aloofs logic in action

            http://www.politics.hu/20140307/reformed-church-pastor-reprehended-for-horthy-bust-display/#comment-1275847874

          • http://politicsinhungary.wordpress.com/ Leto مؤدّب

            Oh, this Periplaneta americana has even more elemental logic problems. :D

          • szebbjovot

            I am still waiting for that Hungarian economic collapse :D his prophecy is a few years late

          • http://politicsinhungary.wordpress.com/ Leto مؤدّب

            “Orbán’s going to crawl on his knees to Ferihegy Airport where he’s going to lick the boots of the victorious IMF troops next year (2012 or 2013?)”

            http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/rolling.gif

          • Aloof

            You didn’t answer the question Slovakian instead you did the tiresome little Leto two step pussy out ad hominem BS.
            Do you have any kids or not? Simple question.
            I have 5 and 4 grandkids. See… it’s not hard.

          • szebbjovot

            What makes you think I will give details about my family to an asshole that calls me a “Slovakian”?

          • Aloof

            So you don’t have any kids. Thanks for clearing that up.

        • wolfi

          Actualy until Magyarization was in full swing Temeschburg was mainly German – even in 1900 they were around 50% …
          http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timi%C8%99oara

          • szebbjovot

            Those Germans were nothing more than settlers in the Banat sent there by the Habsburgs, Hungarians were not allowed to settle there until much later (because they were seen as politically unreliable or in other words, rebellious)

          • Aloof

            True, but then Hungary screwed it all up with magyarization which wasn’t Deak’s intent. When he got too old to battle right wing nut jobs and “nationalists” he was forced out which I think is what killed him by in 1876. If Deak’s vision for Hungary had been maintained Hungary would have had a good chance at being great.
            http://www.geographicus.com/P/AntiqueMap/Austria-mitchell-1850
            So now YOU’RE still suffering the consequences of those actions. The Treaty of Trianon was an extension of what the Treaty of Versailles did to the Germany, the price Hungary paid for trying to impose THEIR will on others.

            Don’t you find it ironic that just after receiving political autonomy from the Hapsburg Empire under the ‘compromise’, or Ausgleich, the Hungarians quickly turned on their still disenfranchised neighbors in the region. Countless Croats, Rumanians, Serbs, Slovaks, Slovenes and Ukrainians were subjected to Magyarization; forced assimilation. The Hungarians fell became even more cruel than their previous “Teutonic” adversaries who employed a similar practice of Germanization decades before.
            Thanks, ultimately led to WWI which led to WWII which led to Communism which has led Hungary back to… well nowhere yet because Hungary is still in it’s post-commie corruption phase. post-commie left finally dead, corrupt post-commie right which is really screwing up Hungary more even more and waiting in the wings is Jobbik as an alternative?
            Make another batch of palinka pal, you’re going to need it.

          • Hungarian

            That was your first in depth educative post.
            Thanks man.

          • seinean

            “Those Germans were nothing more than settlers”. :) Hence one can say that all Hungarians in the Carpathian Basin were nothing else but Arpadian colonists, settlers – you know…

          • Hungarian

            And before Mohacs it was 90% Hungarian.
            Isn’t territorial integrity what you guys are blowing the horn about in regard to events in the Ukrain?

          • Aloof

            Jesus dude, Mohac was 500 YEARS ago and there weren’t many “Hungarians” much less Magyars left after the Turks slaughtered their ass.
            It’s 2014, all that shit is water under the bridge bud.

          • Hungarian

            Jesus?
            Oh no, another Jew in the picture?

            If Kosovo is granted independence by the west use the same fucking standard through out the region dude…

          • Aloof

            Well Jesus was the Double H of his time and knew how to tell good stories plus was a great magician.
            I fully supported what Milosevic was doing in Serbia. He understood the dangers of muslim creep. Too bad he didn’t understand that digging long trenches and laying them out in stacked piles was about the most ill conceived and dumb ass way of mitigating it.
            The west’s paranoia of muslims is why Kosovo happened and why they kissed their ass but as we all know muslims have nothing over Central and Eastern Europe for holding a grudge.

          • Hungarian

            Jesus wether a good guy or bad guy was a reason to keep humankind in the dark for 2000 years.

            Burned on stakes our best scientist of the times.

            Hell we might had a cure for cancer already had we had not the Christian church act as a good shepherd.

            Kosovo or Seclerland I don’t see the difference in self determation rights.

            because religion has 0 to do with governance these days…

          • Aloof

            “because religion has 0 to do with governance these days”

            Tell that to the Iranian people.

          • Hungarian

            Yes, but Iran is not a minority in Serbia or Romania…

          • seinean

            Timisoara still is a multiethnic and tolerant city. Ethnic hate and jingoism would just destroy everything . However it is so “un-banatian” that there’s no foreseeable danger of that.

          • szebbjovot

            It WAS, before you chauvinist stinky vlachs got your hairy paws on our city.

          • seinean

            “Your city” :) :) :)
            Go figure !
            Vin de-l ia, daca te tin curelele, ungurule.

          • Hungarian

            Agreed.

        • seinean

          Why not ? Because it just won’t happen.
          Banat was divided on ethnic lines after WWI, after the so called “Banatian Republic” and after Timisoara was occupied by Serbian troops at Trianon. You got “your” part – Segedin and surrounding area

          • szebbjovot

            “Banat was divided on ethnic lines after WWI”
            No it wasn’t.

          • seinean

            …says the Slovakian who knows better.

          • szebbjovot

            I sure know better than an idiotic tiganescu.

          • seinean

            Man, measure your blood pressure right now. Maybe you need to cool-down a little bit.

  • Aloof

    I’d put up a copy of the Treaty of Trianon on one side and a Hungarian wailing wall on the other of a mobile trailer. At least you’d get some emotion out of the effort.
    I’d stay from the railway carriage idea…

    • Hungarian

      Then you waisted your time, as this is not about Trianon anymore.
      It’s about self determination for large ethnic groups of Hungarians on their own land.

      What poster would you put up on your wall for that.
      The map of Kosovo?

      • Aloof

        Subject is “Hungary to mark WWI centenary with permanent exhibition, mobile museums.”
        So what does your “this” have to do with that?

        • Hungarian

          The self determination that has been taken away from large Hungarian population.
          For a Hungarian that’s all what WWI is to remember about.

          So the question stands.

          • seinean

            Self determination was utterly denied to the various people living in the KoH before WWI. And it was in full swing after WWI. For a non-Hungarian from the territories lost by Hungary at Trianon that’s all WWI is to remember about.
            For a Romanian there is something more and that is that the minorities have to be protected and given proper rights as stated at Alba Iulia. Still minorities rights.

          • szebbjovot

            You are lying, Hungary introduced the first ethnic minority rights in the world.

          • seinean

            … together with a powerful Magyarisation and anti-minorities policy, Slovakian.

          • szebbjovot

            “together with a powerful Magyarisation and anti-minorities policy, Slovakian.”
            So called “Magyarization” was heavily exaggerated. During the period of Magyarization many villages with a Hungarian majority were lost to Germans or Rumanians.

            So try again hairy footed tiganescu.

            Hungary’s policies were very much pro minority, especially when compared with other countries in those times.

          • seinean

            Yeah. That’s why no minority stood by you after WWI.
            You should embrace you deep soul, Slovakian.

          • szebbjovot

            Plenty of minorities stood by us, idiot vlach, the Slovenes, Rusyns, even Slovaks were not so enthusiastic to be recruited into Czech armies to fight Hungarians.

          • seinean

            :) :)
            Yeah, bro. Anybody disagreeing with you is an idiot apparently. You really dislike being called a SLOVAKIAN, don’t you ?

          • szebbjovot

            Why are you posting a picture of a defaced Hungarian coat of arms?

            “Anybody disagreeing with you is an idiot ”
            No, I call you an idiot because you are indeed, a vlach idiot.

          • seinean

            To improve the quality of your life by increasing your blood-pressure :) :)

          • szebbjovot

            My blood preassure is just fine, while you are still just a vlach, which is essentially a disability in its own right.

          • Curious George

            Seinean doesn’t seem to perceive any disability being a vlach. Perhaps that’s the reason for your blood “preassure” being fine. You’re just thrilled that he overcame his “disability”. Come to think of it, you’re “blood” brothers, in more ways than one.

          • seinean

            In this part of the World one can hardly find someone with “pure” blood. We are all of mixed ethnic origins. However some think that “theirs” is better/longer/thicker/wiser/more noble, if you get my drift…

          • szebbjovot

            Who is talking about pure blood, vlach? Your rumanian “culture” is one of the most primitive in Europe.

          • seinean

            Apparently you studied Romanian culture enough to have an educated opinion. I am impressed.
            Now tell me how do you measure the “primitivism” of a culture , oh you the learned one ?

          • szebbjovot

            That goes back to only 1521, while records of Hungarian language go back a lot further :))))

          • Curious George

            ….go back a lot further. :))))))

            Yes, you seem to go back to the neanderthals.

          • seinean

            Gee – a culture with 500 years of written documents is “one of the most primitive” in your views… Does that means that the Hungarian culture is “more primitive” than the German, French , English, Icelandic ( not to mention the Latin and Greek) cultures ?

          • seinean

            Does the adjective “primitive” even has a comparative form when applied to the noun “culture” ?

          • szebbjovot

            You don’t seem to understand, vlachs are a primitive shepardic “nation” with minimal contribution to anything.

          • seinean

            “shephardic” :) :) :)
            Are you sure it is not Ashkenazi ?
            Well, at least we contributed to the end of the “Millenar-ic” KoH, didn’t we ?

          • Curious George

            Exactly. It’s so stupid in this day and age to be arguing about origins. More so, when you consider than Europe is probably going to be one big pot when Schengen is extended to all countries. This is happening even in our part of the world.

          • szebbjovot

            Who cares what Seinean perceives and what you think monkey? Shouldn’t you be somewhere else away from Hungary? Last year you were bragging how soon you will leave to somewhere nicer, what happened?

          • Curious George

            Are you getting senile? Please show me where I said that I was bragging about leaving to someplace nicer.

          • szebbjovot

            “Are you getting senile? Please show me where I said that I was bragging about leaving to someplace nicer.”

            Don’t deny it monkey. I don’t save comments like you do, but I know for a fact that you were talking about leaving Hungary.

          • Curious George

            Sorry, but I don’t save comments. Maybe you should, esp if you’re starting to imagine things I said.
            ps. There’s $100 for you (or to any Slovak or Hungarian charity) if you can show me where I said this Last year you were bragging how soon you will leave to somewhere nicer, what happened

          • seinean

            You see, dude , the very fact that my ethnicity is a “disability” in your views tells plenty about your debating and comprehension capabilities.

          • szebbjovot

            “debating and comprehension capabilities.”
            Bud have you seen your attempts to debate?

          • seinean

            As of now you’re the one throwing insults around. Hardly a good start for anything , not to mention a “debate”. What’s your “thesis” on the topic ?

          • szebbjovot

            Read the comments, its obvious who started with the insults and for sure it wasn’t me.

          • seinean

            No kidding, Slovakian ?

          • http://politicsinhungary.wordpress.com/ Leto مؤدّب

            ” you are still just a vlach, which is essentially a disability in its own right.”

            http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/crying-with-laughter.gif

            Well put.

          • Hungarian

            Excuse szebbjovot’s attitude please.
            He has been playing a second class citizen all his life, powerless and gutless to do anything about it.

            Pease rise above his comments to the level of your true spirits and embrace of our brotherhood.

            All we got in this corner of Europe is us.
            We shall shine again by pulling together…

          • szebbjovot

            Now the japanese troll is tonguing that vlach idiots asshole :D hilarious!

            “embrace of our brotherhood.We shall shine again by pulling together…”

            :D:D:D:D

          • Hungarian

            Poor you.
            You are clueless about the new wold order reality aren’t you?
            Man we are no longer defending our interest with arrows and horses.
            We really need to work together with our neighbours.
            Of course on equal terms….

          • wolfi

            Yes, the Germans also wanted to leave Hungary together with the Romanians as soon as possible!

            Btw our Romanian friends (she of Hungarian, he of German descent) have no problems at all returning regularly to Romania – of course the old people need some help (and money …) but in Hungary we have a similar situation:

            It’s impossible to live a life on the pensions most people get, so if you have to pay rent, don’t have a garden and some animals, then life is really difficult – unless you get some help from your relatives abroad …

          • Hungarian

            I think we were the first union in Europe, under a ruling class whom everybody hated.

            Nevertheless I understand where you are coming from and I don’t dispute.

            All I am saying is if you understand that era, your understanding is still valid today.

            I have nothing against our Romanian brothers.
            Wether we like it or not our history is intertwingled and cannot be replaced.

            I have met many charismatic Romanian ppl in Romania during my business trips there in the 90s.

            I am a firm believer that we can sort out our differences.
            Differences that are not so great, and are actually tie our ones

          • szebbjovot

            “I have nothing against our Romanian brothers.”
            :D

            Yet more proof that you are a treacherous little pig. The Romanians are not, never were and never will be our brothers.

            “Wether we like it or not our history is intertwingled”

            What do you know about history?
            Romania is to Hungary what a tapeworm is inside a human being.

          • Hungarian

            That is the attitude that will just destroy both Romania and their hungarian minorities.

            We shall accept our neighbors so that they can accept us.
            We shall accept the rights of our neighbors so that they can accept ours.

            Your sword swinging rhetoric is late about 160 years… Just like our ancestors were late at Mohacs.

          • szebbjovot

            “We shall accept our neighbors so that they can accept us.
            We shall accept the rights of our neighbors so that they can accept ours.”

            You must be incredibly naive to believe that.

            Enjoy sucking up to the rumanians and your friend tigainenan.

          • Hungarian

            Actually I found many Romanians very friendly, and much more intelligent than you.

            Enjoy sucking up to the slovakians and treasure your Slovakian citizenship bro….

          • szebbjovot

            “Enjoy sucking up to the slovakians and treasure your Slovakian citizenship bro….”

            You are the suckup and traitor never. Never in my life have I sucked up to the slovaks, while you crawl into Rumanian asses while hating on and attacking Hungarians.

          • Hungarian

            Did you fucking attack me out of the blue a couple of days ago on the case of persecuting 90 years olds?

            Anyway, I watch the news everyday, and I don’t hear about a single unrest from Slovakia.

            Every single day without unrest is a day you sucked up to the Benes decretums you hot had low IQ trash.

          • szebbjovot

            “Did you fucking attack me out of the blue ”
            I never attack those who dont have it coming to them.

            So will you protest on the streets of Tokyo?

          • Hungarian

            Fucking Slovakian trash.
            I wount do shit for your seating at home ass anything ever again.

            You have only yourself to look after yourself.
            Better start forgetting Hungarian language from now on.

            You are not worth remembeing my language.

          • szebbjovot

            “ever again.”
            You never did anything for Hungarians bud.

            “my language”

            Japanese? Yiddish?

          • Hungarian

            As politely mentioned above, don’t look at me to change your life or help your situation.

            Nobody helped mine.
            All I have achieved is thanks to my efforts from a very early age of life.

            As to languages, I am perfect Hungarian, Japanese and English .

            Any issues there my Slovakian speaking Slovakian citizen who lives in Slovakia and fucks with genuine Hungarian citizens?

          • szebbjovot

            “don’t look at me to change your life or help your situation.”

            Nobody in their right mind would expect something from a floor cleaner in Fukushima.

          • Hungarian

            Its Tokyo and business owner for you.
            Your low IQ comebacks definitely do not put you in a good light.

            As I said, never ask me again what I’d do for your ass.
            Who are you that I should do anything for you?

            Just a useless troll parading with the icon of the kingdom of Hungary, thinking he ownes the issue?

            You are a laughable parody for a Slovakian nationalist with Hungarian sentiments.

            Get in touch with reality man.

            You are second class where you live and you don’t do shit about it on your own.

            You are

          • szebbjovot

            The correct name is Gyulafehérvár, and it had a Hungarian majority before Trianon.

          • seinean

            :) :)
            Make it Bolgrad and settle down

          • Aloof

            And what about the “self determination” of other folks that was taken away by Hungary via magyarization which helped ultimately lead to Trianon?

          • Hungarian

            That would have been resolved between the Hungarians and respective nationalities, not from somewhere from the distance in wester europe.

            That is exactly why things are still not resolved.

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